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Title: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: Nwj345™ on April 06, 2009, 11:03:55 am MLNO will be going through several changes over the coming weeks. We will be putting more things to you through a forum vote to decide. Much like a featured Member contest. Whenever you vote please do not just vote whichever your mouse happens to land on. Take the time and go through every option.
IF YOU HAVE VOTED PLEASE POST WHAT YOU VOTED AND YOUR REASONS WHY. Click here for the prank (http://mln.smfforfree4.com/index.php/board,197.0.html) After much negative feedback about the tests/jokes/etc. that Blade has pulled, I have decided to put up this poll to see what you guys really feel like. If Blade is Impeached or his position in any way changed from the one he is in there will be more voting later on to determine a replacement. We will also be voting on different moderators and how many we should have later on. I will not be voting so as to not influence anyone in their votes. I will also close the poll when I feel necessary. Title: Re: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: Nwj345™ on April 06, 2009, 11:06:34 am Also there will be no more tests/jokes pulled for the moment. The staff will let you know next time before a test is done.
Title: Re: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: Legodac on April 06, 2009, 11:26:22 am I voted no, he should stay in admin, and I hope everyone who votes tells why they voted the way they did.
When a person puts as much time into something as Blade has, it's only common sense that mistakes will be made in direct proportion to the efforts of the individual. Nobody is perfect. Learning curves are a life long endeavor, I'm still learning too and I still make mistakes. The only person who doesn't make mistakes is someone who never tries or J.C. During Blades prank, I played along and when I saw him cross the line, he quickly stepped back, when I asked him to. I also had a PM conversation with him during the RPG. I feel due to his responce, he learned something, perhaps a simple public appology and a promise to kick it back a notch or two would be more appropiate. No offence to the boss with the use of the word appropiate, I fear that there may be to many people who may respond in accordance with their feelings and not their logic before the dust has even settled Title: Re: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: Nwj345™ on April 06, 2009, 11:28:58 am Thank you for your feedback legodac.
Title: Re: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: LordVaderRulez on April 06, 2009, 11:30:40 am Before I vote, what prank did he exactly poll? I have been gone for a few days.
Title: Re: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: Nwj345™ on April 06, 2009, 11:32:46 am Here is the link to the board where the AF's joke centered.
http://mln.smfforfree4.com/index.php/board,197.0.html Title: Re: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: LordVaderRulez on April 06, 2009, 11:36:49 am I still don't quite understand. Were some topics deleted already?
Title: Re: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: Nwj345™ on April 06, 2009, 11:41:04 am I don't believe so.
Quote I, Omega Blademan, will be taking the spot of the first command of the administration. There will be some... changes. But all for the better of course. Basically Omega pretended to take over the forum. Changed the themes (which you can see in the themes options), and sortof pretended to be a split personality or himself hacked. One member was banned. Others found themselves with the MVP award which is for the Member of the year award. Not to mention that this type of thing has happened before on several different occasions. Title: Re: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: Legodac on April 06, 2009, 11:52:54 am I voted no, he should stay in admin, and I hope everyone who votes tells why they voted the way they did. When a person puts as much time into something as Blade has, it's only common sense that mistakes will be made in direct proportion to the efforts of the individual. Nobody is perfect. Learning curves are a life long endeavor, I'm still learning too and I still make mistakes. The only person who doesn't make mistakes is someone who never tries or J.C. During Blades prank, I played along and when I saw him cross the line, he quickly stepped back, when I asked him to. I also had a PM conversation with him during the RPG. I feel due to his responce, he learned something, perhaps a simple public appology and a promise to kick it back a notch or two would be more appropiate. No offence to the boss with the use of the word appropiate, I fear that there may be to many people who may respond in accordance with their feelings and not their logic before the dust has even settled No offence to nwj345, but I intend to keep my post in the forefront as long as possible, to many people look at the first page and the last post and sometimes not even that much, Blade didn't loose any brownie points with me and I'll say why even more. When I first got here I helped start the The MLN Maniacs, during which time I said something really stupid, I made a joke about God. It was not well recieved and to make a long story short, I left the team, deleted a couple of my teammates in MLN and didn't here from some for days. We're all friends again and of course I appologized, right after it happened. The dust settled after several days not one. I'll tell you though, for a while I was crushed as well was someone else. For LordVaderRulez and others who may be lost, here is the link again which nwj345 posted earlier http://mln.smfforfree4.com/index.php/topic,3104.0.html Title: Re: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: Nwj345™ on April 06, 2009, 11:55:19 am Please do note that this is not a one time occurence. This has happened multiple times now.
Title: Re: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: The Truth on April 06, 2009, 11:57:38 am the joke was a little scary, but overall Blade is a great Admin. as long as he doesn't try to scare us again, I say keep him.
Title: Re: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: Nwj345™ on April 06, 2009, 11:59:30 am Any specifics to how he is a great admin? I'm trying not to be one-sided here. I want fair hearings on both sides.
Title: Re: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: Legodac on April 06, 2009, 12:01:24 pm Please do note that this is not a one time occurence. This has happened multiple times now. Sorry but that's pretty vague buddy, multiple defined at it's lowest is 2, and were the circumstances the same or different or are you simply talking about how many people were offendedTitle: Re: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: The Truth on April 06, 2009, 12:01:52 pm Any specifics to how he is a great admin? I'm trying not to be one-sided here. I want fair hearings on both sides. he is very knowledgeable about many of the things that he moderates (for example, the Pokemon topic), and, aside from the most recent scare, has a pretty good sense of humor.Title: Re: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: Trijhak on April 06, 2009, 12:03:10 pm He should stay an admin. He has done a lot of work, and I voted him to stay an admin. (this is what he does not want- a poll that will turn into a popularity contest.)
And agreed to Herochild. Title: Re: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: Nwj345™ on April 06, 2009, 12:05:33 pm This poll will not be the final decision. That will be up to me as the head/owner of this forum. This is simply to get feedback.
Title: Re: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: Rakoua on April 06, 2009, 12:12:28 pm He stays!!!!!!!
I didn't want himm out of the administration when I posted my suggestions! Why? Well, I made that mistake too. Blade made it once too, Ogichi was actually kinda fun... If he is demoted, then I want to be demoted too, as when I did Arkano, I wasn't removed from the staff. Also, he is a great admin. Whitout him, this forum would fall appart. Besides, he is a great friend even though he can act irrationaly sometimes... But still, you won't find anyone better to take his place, believe me. Title: Re: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: Legodac on April 06, 2009, 12:12:36 pm This poll will not be the final decision. That will be up to me as the head/owner of this forum. This is simply to get feedback. Is there a way I can access his past indiscressionsTitle: Re: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: timposter on April 06, 2009, 12:13:19 pm It's only accessible by staff
Title: Re: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: MÆLXTRØM on April 06, 2009, 12:17:54 pm I agree with Tim. Blade has a lot of good stuff in his time as staff, and I'm not against him getting a staff position in the future. Unfortunately this joke and the previous things with those other random japanese names were violations of the rules (no dual-accounts and pretending you're someone you're not) and drove some members to anxiety. In this regard he seems to have become used to having this power, losing touch with the fact that he can't just do crazy pranks just because he's an admin, and I think the best way to fix that would be for him to be a regular member again for a time.
I wasn't present when chase did whatever he did, but from what I've been told, he pretended he was a hacker and gave the forum a good scare. He was given a good thrashing for it. I fail to see how this prank is different, regardless if it was a post-April Fools thing. Title: Re: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: Rakoua on April 06, 2009, 12:21:28 pm I agree with Tim. Blade has a lot of good stuff in his time as staff, and I'm not against him getting a staff position in the future. Unfortunately this joke and the previous things with those other random japanese names were violations of the rules (no dual-accounts and pretending you're someone you're not) and drove some members to anxiety. In this regard he seems to have become used to having this power, losing touch with the fact that he can't just do crazy pranks just because he's an admin, and I think the best way to fix that would be for him to be a regular member again for a time. I can't help but notice that all of the staff (Including me) were in a position to stop Blade if it got to that point. Other then those who were absent during the incident...I wasn't present when chase did whatever he did, but from what I've been told, he pretended he was a hacker and gave the forum a good scare. He was given a good thrashing for it. I fail to see how this prank is different, regardless if it was a post-April Fools thing. Title: Re: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: MÆLXTRØM on April 06, 2009, 12:24:25 pm If we had tried, it would have turned into a staff war, which would probably have upset the forum more. As it was, I had things to do and as such I stated I would be absent and not be held responsible for the imminent failure of the joke.
Title: Re: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: Legodac on April 06, 2009, 12:25:52 pm I agree with Tim. Blade has a lot of good stuff in his time as staff, and I'm not against him getting a staff position in the future. Unfortunately this joke and the previous things with those other random japanese names were violations of the rules (no dual-accounts and pretending you're someone you're not) and drove some members to anxiety. In this regard he seems to have become used to having this power, losing touch with the fact that he can't just do crazy pranks just because he's an admin, and I think the best way to fix that would be for him to be a regular member again for a time. I can't help but notice that all of the staff (Including me) were in a position to stop Blade if it got to that point. Other then those who were absent during the incident...I wasn't present when chase did whatever he did, but from what I've been told, he pretended he was a hacker and gave the forum a good scare. He was given a good thrashing for it. I fail to see how this prank is different, regardless if it was a post-April Fools thing. Title: Re: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: Rakoua on April 06, 2009, 12:26:30 pm I doubt that that would happen... Besides, I am not putting the blame on anyone...
Title: Re: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: timposter on April 06, 2009, 12:28:49 pm I agree with Tim. Blade has a lot of good stuff in his time as staff, and I'm not against him getting a staff position in the future. Unfortunately this joke and the previous things with those other random japanese names were violations of the rules (no dual-accounts and pretending you're someone you're not) and drove some members to anxiety. In this regard he seems to have become used to having this power, losing touch with the fact that he can't just do crazy pranks just because he's an admin, and I think the best way to fix that would be for him to be a regular member again for a time. I wasn't present when chase did whatever he did, but from what I've been told, he pretended he was a hacker and gave the forum a good scare. He was given a good thrashing for it. I fail to see how this prank is different, regardless if it was a post-April Fools thing. That's very true about Chase. Just because Blade is an Admin that shouldn't change his punishment. Title: Re: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: Legodac on April 06, 2009, 12:31:37 pm If we had tried, it would have turned into a staff war, which would probably have upset the forum more. As it was, I had things to do and as such I stated I would be absent and not be held responsible for the imminent failure of the joke. I concede you may have been busy elsewhere, however I can't agree with your statement about further disruption when peoples feelings where about to be hurt. If admins don't argue now and then that usually means you're not going anywhere.Title: Re: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: The Truth on April 06, 2009, 12:33:23 pm He stays!!!!!!! agreed, Rakoua. you are absolutely correct.I didn't want him out of the administration when I posted my suggestions! Why? Well, I made that mistake too. Blade made it once too, Ogichi was actually kinda fun... If he is demoted, then I want to be demoted too, as when I did Arkano, I wasn't removed from the staff. Also, he is a great admin. Without him, this forum would fall apart. Besides, he is a great friend even though he can act irrationally sometimes... But still, you won't find anyone better to take his place, believe me. Title: Re: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: MÆLXTRØM on April 06, 2009, 12:40:03 pm I concede you may have been busy elsewhere, however I can't agree with your statement about further disruption when peoples feelings where about to be hurt. If admins don't argue now and then that usually means you're not going anywhere. I would question the perceived effectiveness of an unstable government warring against itself. We don't need members to think the leaders are fighting for control of the forum. It seemed better to me at the time to let Blade do his thing and tell anyone that PMed me (when I was on at least) that things were alright.Title: Re: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: Legodac on April 06, 2009, 12:42:14 pm It's only accessible by staff I thought this would be a good time to drag this over, remember, I still want Blade in as I have stated several times already.Re: Featured Member of the Year for 2008 and Featured Member for January 2009 « Reply #74 on: April 05, 2009, 07:44:05 pm » Quote Modify Remove -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Oh well, I think it's time I opened my big mouth. But I promise, I won't drag on to much. Let's start with this...Hidden until next year. And the archives shouldn't be visible to normal members..., Wow, I can't remember the last time I walked into a library and was told that I couldn't view history because I was only normal. So I guess that means it makes no sense for me to be able to view the first few posts in this place I almost started to call home. Democracy is wonderfull word, it's the best political system so far, I'm beginning to wonder what you guys are basing your policies on. If these things are hidden for convenience then maybe you need to address the possibility that you need more mods. Yes some things should be hidden, like forums that were hidden to begin with. If it's too much info, than ZIPLOCK it, to be unzipped if a viewing is desired by a so called NORMAL MEMBER, like myself. That last sentence has nothing to with the honour you bestowed on MsRR. When you say that someone has just recieved one of the highest awards in the MLNO, you don't turn and say a while later, that you're going to make it hidden. That's simply ridiculous and disrespectful, and dishonours the award and the person you spoke so highly of a short time ago. I don't think the people who run the Cocky Hall of Fame, oops, I mean Hockey, have Bobby Orr or Jacque Plante archived in the basement. These words are for all and are not directed at any one. However, I would like the Hierchy to read these words more then once. I recommend a book from the library, it's called "The Peter Principle". It's a short but powerfull read. It's about Hierchys. It simply states that in ones climb up the perverbial ladder, some will eventually reach their level of incompetence. Oh yeah, read the orange words below too « Last Edit: April 05, 2009, 07:45:38 pm by legodac » Report Spam Report to moderator Logged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PLAY WELL EH...THE LEGODAC BRICKERAGE FIRM Title: Re: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: Darth Rexus on April 06, 2009, 12:43:06 pm We need him as a Admin, its only a BIG, BIG, BIG joke, he should stay as he is. Anyways MT told all of the Maniacs about it and I think it is a Epic internet tale!
Title: Re: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: Nwj345™ on April 06, 2009, 12:45:36 pm I agree with Tim. Blade has a lot of good stuff in his time as staff, and I'm not against him getting a staff position in the future. Unfortunately this joke and the previous things with those other random japanese names were violations of the rules (no dual-accounts and pretending you're someone you're not) and drove some members to anxiety. In this regard he seems to have become used to having this power, losing touch with the fact that he can't just do crazy pranks just because he's an admin, and I think the best way to fix that would be for him to be a regular member again for a time. I wasn't present when chase did whatever he did, but from what I've been told, he pretended he was a hacker and gave the forum a good scare. He was given a good thrashing for it. I fail to see how this prank is different, regardless if it was a post-April Fools thing. That's very true about Chase. Just because Blade is an Admin that shouldn't change his punishment. Excellent point there. I don't think we have rules that say admin punishments differ from members. @legodac. I quite agree with you concerning the archives and we may open those up to "NORMAL MEMBERS", as you call them, soon. Title: Re: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: Legodac on April 06, 2009, 12:49:07 pm I concede you may have been busy elsewhere, however I can't agree with your statement about further disruption when peoples feelings where about to be hurt. If admins don't argue now and then that usually means you're not going anywhere. I would question the perceived effectiveness of an unstable government warring against itself. We don't need members to think the leaders are fighting for control of the forum. It seemed better to me at the time to let Blade do his thing and tell anyone that PMed me (when I was on at least) that things were alright.Title: Re: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: Nwj345™ on April 06, 2009, 12:52:03 pm Ok. Very good. Only open for veiwing correct? You can't add topics...
I do want to keep the tone of this "debate" down guys...Getting very tense right now. Let's all keep calm. ^-^ Title: Re: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: Legodac on April 06, 2009, 01:12:14 pm Ok. Very good. Only open for veiwing correct? You can't add topics... I don't think anybody's tense, I would never look down my nose at any staff member here, especially CRX, I simply didnt agree with his analogy of politics. To pick up the tone again again, I'll say again in other words, There is the possibility in all gain of power that eventually it will be abused in some way and yes, even with the best of intentions. In a previous post here I told everyone about my mistake in The MLN Maniacs, All I'm saying is, I can't imagine how much work you guys have to do and the more you do, the more you'll succeed and yes, fail as well. I speak of proportions.I do want to keep the tone of this "debate" down guys...Getting very tense right now. Let's all keep calm. ^-^ Thankyou for giving us access and "Normal members" wasn't my line. BTW, you might want to set a guideline as to access to the archives, No copying and Pasting elsewhere, Archives for reading only to avoid confusion and posts taken out of context. Title: Re: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: Nwj345™ on April 06, 2009, 01:18:59 pm Quote If it's too much info, than ZIPLOCK it, to be unzipped if a viewing is desired by a so called NORMAL MEMBER, like myself. I believe it was your line. ^.^ Title: Re: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: MsRowdyRedhead on April 06, 2009, 01:47:41 pm I agree that Blade has done a great job as admin, and been a good friend to many of us as well. He has done a tremendous amount of work on behalf of this forum, to the benefit of us all. Additionally, Blade was not alone in this, as I understand it was all laid out in the Staff forum, and everyone but NWJ who was absent saw it.
So in essence ALL the staff was involved. Dudebot played a large role as well and others had supporting roles. Their actions were ill advised, but I am not certain severe staff reforms are in order. I I do not think either Blade or Dudebot meant to harm the forum, any more than Rakoua did last time. Chase intended to wreak havoc, and had little or no consequences that we could see. He still had his full freedom as a member. Please bear this in mind. Additionally, I believe that Blade has put in more "on duty" time than most of the staff. He has at times, let his "power" go to much to his head, that is true, but I sense no benevolent intention. I dislike these pranks, as most of you know, and last time when I thought Rakoua was unfairly treated I was truly ready to leave this forum. As a parent & grandparent I have faced many times when I have had to administer consequences in order to redirect someone's behavior. There are always multiple alternatives. There must be some task or tasks that have been left undone, that he can be made responsible for for few days to a week?? ( Perhaps the spam in off- topic, as many of the mods never seen to go there unless a post is flagged or reported?) I will not vote at this moment, but I am opposed to having all of Blades hard work thrown away for what he invisioned as a harmless prank. Again, remember, Chase suffered NO visible loss of freedom, despite the fact that his intent was admittedly nefarious. Title: Re: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: The Host on April 06, 2009, 02:12:58 pm MsRR always has good points, and I always end up agreeing with them. Blade is probably the most active admin, so throwing him out would not be a good idea. However, pulling stunts like these is not great for the forum and many members do not realise that what Blade and co do is only a prank. Many of the things he has done in the past have posed no real threat to the forum, and as far as I can remember the only rules he has broken have been stated by CRX on the first page(i think): creating duplicate accounts and pretending to be hacked.
I voted that Blade should stay an admin, however, pranks such as this should not be done at all, or at least not without prior warning to specific members, and especially not done forum wide. Saying that you are gonna take complete control of the forum is not good for attracting new members... Title: Re: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: Jade on April 06, 2009, 02:15:59 pm I'm not really sure what went on this weekend, since I was busy with our churches new "drama" team, but I think Blade should still stay an Admin.
He's the one I always go to for help, and he never complains about helping me. Sure, his jokes can get a little out of hand, but this forum wouldn't be the same without Blade. Title: Re: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: MÆLXTRØM on April 06, 2009, 03:10:42 pm In light of the support y'all are showing him, despite having been the subjects of his jokes, I would like to change my stance. He has my blessing to remain staff, but I would like him to take a serious look at this, be thankful he has such a loyal constituency, and make sure he doesn't abuse it again.
Title: Re: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: Legodac on April 06, 2009, 03:24:13 pm Quote If it's too much info, than ZIPLOCK it, to be unzipped if a viewing is desired by a so called NORMAL MEMBER, like myself. I believe it was your line. ^.^ My next statement is not to prove Nwj345 wrong, simply to show where I found it, it was after all, what inspired me to post my words on making archives accessible to all, which seemed to bring on another change as well Re: Featured Member of the Year for 2008 and Featured Member for January 2009 « Reply #55 on: April 05, 2009, 08:58:34 am » Quote -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hidden until next year. And the archives shouldn't be visible to normal members... Title: Re: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: Dudebot5000 on April 06, 2009, 03:31:19 pm I agree with MsRR's statement. I have just as much blame behind this most recent incident as Blade does, seeing how I was "Blade" and "I" banned myself (Although that was at another's suggestion, but Blade said to do it... Moving on... ::))
He's an active guy, moreso than myself (And I'm on pretty often, IMO), and he does what he can to help out. That, and he's the only one I know of here who actually understands the site's coding. =P Anyway, I think he should be left as an Admin. If he is demoted because of this incident, then demote me too. It's just as much my fault. Title: Re: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: Legodac on April 06, 2009, 04:21:33 pm I voted no, he should stay in admin, and I hope everyone who votes tells why they voted the way they did. When a person puts as much time into something as Blade has, it's only common sense that mistakes will be made in direct proportion to the efforts of the individual. Nobody is perfect. Learning curves are a life long endeavor, I'm still learning too and I still make mistakes. The only person who doesn't make mistakes is someone who never tries or J.C. During Blades prank, I played along and when I saw him cross the line, he quickly stepped back, when I asked him to. I also had a PM conversation with him during the RPG. I feel due to his responce, he learned something, perhaps a simple public appology and a promise to kick it back a notch or two would be more appropiate. No offence to the boss with the use of the word appropiate, I fear that there may be to many people who may respond in accordance with their feelings and not their logic before the dust has even settled No offence to nwj345, but I intend to keep my post in the forefront as long as possible, to many people look at the first page and the last post and sometimes not even that much, Blade didn't loose any brownie points with me and I'll say why even more. When I first got here I helped start the The MLN Maniacs, during which time I said something really stupid, I made a joke about God. It was not well recieved and to make a long story short, I left the team, deleted a couple of my teammates in MLN and didn't here from some for days. We're all friends again and of course I appologized, right after it happened. The dust settled after several days not one. I'll tell you though, for a while I was crushed as well was someone else. For LordVaderRulez and others who may be lost, here is the link again which nwj345 posted earlier http://mln.smfforfree4.com/index.php/topic,3104.0.html Well here we are now, a few hours later and as I suspected, more dust has settled, Time really does heal all wounds. Keeping with what Nwj345 has said, keep on track (not a quote) I will. I have some hopes here and I have a fear as well, so instead of talking about him, I'll talk to him. Dear OmegaBlademan... As you can see and as you've read you may be thinking your Brick is on the line here. My hope is that you'll step up and say sorry, my hope is that you'll say to everyone that you were out of line in a couple of instances, especially with the MVP award. I quoted my posts because they are the words from my heart. From what I can see and what I've read here, the poll is now extremley inaccurate. I want you to stay, and most agree. That being said, about my hopes of you stepping up, I'll now tell you my fear, thay you'll step down and resign as a mod, or worse... We all love ya buddy, so at the very least, please stay... Your pal...legodac Title: Re: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: Dudebot5000 on April 06, 2009, 04:32:17 pm Who voted "Who is Omega Blademan?" 0_o
Title: Re: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: Kaulus7 on April 06, 2009, 04:40:28 pm I missed the prank. What was it?
Title: Re: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: Legodac on April 06, 2009, 04:44:02 pm I missed the prank. What was it? The link is 2 posts prior to yours and thanks for proving one of my points ::) ::) Title: Re: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: edwins94 on April 06, 2009, 05:41:51 pm I voted I want him banned. I mean, you just don't pull April Fools pranks when it's not April Fools day.
Title: Re: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: Legodac on April 06, 2009, 05:59:51 pm I voted I want him banned. I mean, you just don't pull April Fools pranks when it's not April Fools day. Wow, there's a new one, Banned for bad timing. ::) ::) Title: Re: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: MsRowdyRedhead on April 06, 2009, 06:19:54 pm I voted I want him banned. I mean, you just don't pull April Fools pranks when it's not April Fools day. Edwins, were you even ON that day? Title: Re: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: timposter on April 06, 2009, 06:21:16 pm Indeed, you don't just get banned for bad timing...
Title: Re: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: Legodac on April 06, 2009, 08:00:20 pm Test :( ::) :) :D >:( Has anyone talked to Blade tonight or today, if so, one question, how's he doing?Alright they should work now. Now back to the original topic. Title: Re: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: timposter on April 06, 2009, 08:03:15 pm He hasn't been online since yesterday...
Title: Re: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: The Truth on April 06, 2009, 08:08:31 pm He hasn't been online since yesterday... I wonder if he's OK.... anyone who knows him in real life, please talk to him.Title: Re: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: timposter on April 06, 2009, 08:10:07 pm Of course he's ok. He seemed fine yesterday when I talked to him.
Title: Re: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: MsRowdyRedhead on April 06, 2009, 08:15:21 pm Can we PLEASE avoid another page of OFF TOPIC posts??
Title: Re: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: timposter on April 06, 2009, 08:16:10 pm This is about Blade. it is OT.
Title: Re: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: edwins94 on April 06, 2009, 09:13:53 pm I voted I want him banned. I mean, you just don't pull April Fools pranks when it's not April Fools day. Edwins, were you even ON that day? Timing is everything, people. But I suppose I may have been a bit hasty in my vote. I think it's fine if he just becomes a regular member. Title: Re: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: ab§olute_Z3R0 on April 06, 2009, 09:41:26 pm I am putting my vote in as to have him demoted to Global Mod.
[NOTE: THE FOLLOWING OPINION EXPRESSED DOES NOT REPRESENT THAT OF ANY OTHER MLNO MEMBER(S). THIS OPINION IS STRICTLY THAT OF MLNO MEMBER Ab§olute_Z3R0.] While he has great ideas and has been a great Admin, he seems to have a creative mind which he sometimes does not use in a good way (IMO). He does, however, run a few TB-RPGs, and that's definitely a way for him to express his creativity. Anyways, back to the important stuff. I chose the choice I did because he is good at recognizing forum etiquette errors such as double posts (who isn't ::)), code tag errors, and is also quite knowledgeable and can/will gladly help any member in need to the best of his ability. I feel being an Administrator can sometimes distract the member, and they may get carried away. Not being and Administrator, Blade can still run his RPGs, keep his colored name if he wishes, and still do things regular members can, but without the distraction of being an Admin. Please let me know what you think of my opinion, if you agree, if you disagree, I want to know. :) ~Ab-Z Title: Re: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: Dudebot5000 on April 06, 2009, 09:46:23 pm Being demoted likely looses him a bunch of those fancy Rep Points, though, possibly making him lose things like the brick and the name color. ;)
Title: Re: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: Legodac on April 06, 2009, 09:50:24 pm Quote I think it has every bit to do with relevance. And besides, put this into perspective. The reason I'm undecided at the moment is because I'm factoring in everything that he's done for this forum. Yes, this was badly thought out, and yes, there was admitable inconvenient timing, but timing alone isn't enough to base this on. In fact, let's just throw the whole AF thing aside. Let's not use that as reasoning on either side anymore, because it clearly works against Blade in this manner. Let's just call it a joke in general. Timing is what should be considered irrelevant here. I don't consider that to be enough grounds to even demote him, let alone ban him. Look at the big picture, not a particular part of this squabble. Very well said, except maybe for the last part. I wouldn't call it a squabble, I prefer to think of it as an assesment to an event. Once all have spoken, and the ones who care about this forum, will read what's been said and not only decide where their loyalties lie but will learn a few things as well, not only about each other, but themselves aswell.Title: Re: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: Flipz on April 06, 2009, 10:33:39 pm I voted that Blade remain an Admin. His technical expertise has undoubtedly improved this forum, and when he's not playing these pranks he's generally pretty responsible. In addition, he is an all-around great guy. So, as long as he doesn't do this again, I think he should stay. I think MLNO would lose a lot more than it would gain if Blade were demoted or banned.
-Flipz Title: Re: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: Darth Rexus on April 07, 2009, 01:42:28 am I am putting my vote in as to have him demoted to Global Mod. Well said. I still think he should stay as Admin but I thinik that you are right.[NOTE: THE FOLLOWING OPINION EXPRESSED DOES NOT REPRESENT THAT OF ANY OTHER MLNO MEMBER(S). THIS OPINION IS STRICTLY THAT OF MLNO MEMBER Ab§olute_Z3R0.] While he has great ideas and has been a great Admin, he seems to have a creative mind which he sometimes does not use in a good way (IMO). He does, however, run a few TB-RPGs, and that's definitely a way for him to express his creativity. Anyways, back to the important stuff. I chose the choice I did because he is good at recognizing forum etiquette errors such as double posts (who isn't ::)), code tag errors, and is also quite knowledgeable and can/will gladly help any member in need to the best of his ability. I feel being an Administrator can sometimes distract the member, and they may get carried away. Not being and Administrator, Blade can still run his RPGs, keep his colored name if he wishes, and still do things regular members can, but without the distraction of being an Admin. Please let me know what you think of my opinion, if you agree, if you disagree, I want to know. :) ~Ab-Z Title: Re: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: Jas765 on April 07, 2009, 01:49:18 am I voted that he should stay an admin.
From what I know, Blade is the Coding admin (as well as being a normal admin), so he has a job to do that frankly I don't think any of us can do as well as him. If it wasn't for him, we wouldn't have many skins, plus other things like that. Apart from the occasional 'joke', Blade is a great admin. Title: Re: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: lynndr on April 07, 2009, 01:54:37 am I am unwilling to cast a vote on this topic because it singles out Blade. I understand that Blade was a prime mover of this latest "joke" but all of the admins (except nwj) were aware of the plans and many participated in some way. This has also been the pattern in the past.
That said, I think that all of the Admins should take a hard look at themselves and ask what these "jokes" are supposed to accomplish. As Admins, you wield great power - be mindful of how you use it. Title: Re: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: lionytai on April 07, 2009, 03:45:26 am i voted no. We should give him another chance. maybe next time he.....
Title: Re: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: Bot_the_builder on April 07, 2009, 07:09:39 am I voted I don't really care. As I wasn't affected by the prank Blade was playing considering I'm new and wasn't quite sure what he was going on about. I think he should be given another chance with stipulations if his games continue to upset users he will be removed without notice. Consider it more of a 1 more chance scenario.
Title: Re: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: Legodac on April 07, 2009, 08:34:39 am I voted no, he should stay in admin, and I hope everyone who votes tells why they voted the way they did. When a person puts as much time into something as Blade has, it's only common sense that mistakes will be made in direct proportion to the efforts of the individual. Nobody is perfect. Learning curves are a life long endeavor, I'm still learning too and I still make mistakes. The only person who doesn't make mistakes is someone who never tries or J.C. During Blades prank, I played along and when I saw him cross the line, he quickly stepped back, when I asked him to. I also had a PM conversation with him during the RPG. I feel due to his responce, he learned something, perhaps a simple public appology and a promise to kick it back a notch or two would be more appropiate. No offence to the boss with the use of the word appropiate, I fear that there may be to many people who may respond in accordance with their feelings and not their logic before the dust has even settled No offence to nwj345, but I intend to keep my post in the forefront as long as possible, to many people look at the first page and the last post and sometimes not even that much, Blade didn't loose any brownie points with me and I'll say why even more. When I first got here I helped start the The MLN Maniacs, during which time I said something really stupid, I made a joke about God. It was not well recieved and to make a long story short, I left the team, deleted a couple of my teammates in MLN and didn't here from some for days. We're all friends again and of course I appologized, right after it happened. The dust settled after several days not one. I'll tell you though, for a while I was crushed as well was someone else. For LordVaderRulez and others who may be lost, here is the link again which nwj345 posted earlier http://mln.smfforfree4.com/index.php/topic,3104.0.html Well here we are now, a few hours later and as I suspected, more dust has settled, Time really does heal all wounds. Keeping with what Nwj345 has said, keep on track (not a quote) I will. I have some hopes here and I have a fear as well, so instead of talking about him, I'll talk to him. Dear OmegaBlademan... As you can see and as you've read you may be thinking your Brick is on the line here. My hope is that you'll step up and say sorry, my hope is that you'll say to everyone that you were out of line in a couple of instances, especially with the MVP award. I quoted my posts because they are the words from my heart. From what I can see and what I've read here, the poll is now extremley inaccurate. I want you to stay, and most agree. That being said, about my hopes of you stepping up, I'll now tell you my fear, thay you'll step down and resign as a mod, or worse... We all love ya buddy, so at the very least, please stay... Your pal...legodac Well, here I am again, as promised and wondering how long it will take the dust to settle. Problem with that is, the longer this lingers, the dust will only settle on one side, the side pointing the finger. So putting myself in Blades shoes for a moment, I'll ask myself, what would I do if my peers continue to point the finger at me and allow this to go on and on. My answer might be to walk away, and with my knowledge, I can easily start out on my own and bring many with me, *steps out of Blades shoes, and back into his own* In my opinion the longer you leave this here, without resolution will only serve to increase your chances of truly tearing this forum apart. The facts are basic, so should be the assessment. Blade ran an RPG, and made some mistakes. He failed to take into consideration the feelings of those who would percieve his actions as menevolent. I'm sorry people were hurt. However, considering the overwhelmingly helpfull nature of the individual, there is no way he meant to hurt anyone. I hope the other mods are in pm contact with Blade, I've tryed to write aswell. In the grand scheme of things, this website is a tiny little thing. It's not a country, it's not even a backwater town. I agree with having rules and regulations, it keeps things from getting out of control. However, there is always, the other side of the coin. To many rules and over governing will only lead to one thing, revolt and revolution. Try to remember something people, the reason we are all here in the first place and what brought us here. Our love for Lego and a chance to expand on that by sharing with each other a little fun. It is, what brought me. As in real life, there are many different personalities and trying to form the ultimate goverment thru a website designed for fun, just ain't gonna happen. So why not put that idea to bed. Sometimes it's best to take a step backwards before we resemble lemmings, jumping off a cliff. It's time to put a smile back on, and stop taking ourselves so seriously. READ THE ORANGE WORDS BELOW and HAVE A NICE DAY Modify...P.S....I forgot something important, if you want to make a counsil, fine by me. However, I'm not one who believes that we should be telling the mods and the admins and the creator of this place, what to do. Make suggestions, perfect, they do a fine job and work very hard to make this a cool place to be. Title: Re: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: Darth Rexus on April 07, 2009, 09:42:14 am *I cry* That was great! *I clap* YAY! I argee with Legodac (now) end this and lets get back to the fun.
P.S Lemmings don't jump off cliffs, Walt Disney made that up. Title: Re: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: timposter on April 07, 2009, 09:46:34 am Quote I believe I've come to a decision on the matter. I'm going to hold my vote, because the vote I hold doesn't truly fit with any of the choices given. I believe that if any actions are taken against Blade, then an investigation needs to be taken against every single staff member, as well. I do believe that this entire issue, as well as all older issues, need to be re-examined. Not just against Blade, but on all staff, so as to make a fair case. Yeah, I agree with that. Title: Re: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: The Truth on April 07, 2009, 10:17:23 am @legodac: I completely agree.
Title: Re: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: Nwj345™ on April 07, 2009, 12:12:57 pm After reading through all of your posts and recieving feedback I have decided to keep Blade as an admin. We will however still be making changes to our staff setup so be watching for more polls as we will be looking for your feedback.
This topic will now be locked. Title: Re: Very Important Changes-Everyone vote here. Post by: ab§olute_Z3R0 on April 07, 2009, 03:42:35 pm Being demoted likely looses him a bunch of those fancy Rep Points, though, possibly making him lose things like the brick and the name color. ;) Hey, look at me. 0 Rep and I have teh fanciez. EDIT: Oops sorry for posting after it was locked. ::) *cough*-Yeah don't do that plz...~Nwj345 |