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Title: A bill that will make over 1/3 of Americans felons - OPPOSE THIS Post by: mtmerrick on October 31, 2011, 10:57:05 pm Quote A new bill in Congress makes posting a video containing any copyrighted work a felony - with up to 5 years of prison. this is where i found out about it... http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20128166-281/copyright-bill-controversy-grows-as-rhetoric-sharpens/ our government is out of control. the people in charge either know absoultly NOTHING about how technology, and the internet work, (fairly likely) they're gullible idiots with the brains of toddlers (very likely), or they're just evil, corrupt, and want us to suffer (sadly, the most likely) chances are, you've posted a video with some sort of copyrighted material somewhere. song lyrics, a picture, a logo, anything. are you prepared to go to jail? OPPOSE THIS BILL. tell everyone you know. if this bill gets passed, we're one huge step closer to destroying ourselves. Title: Re: A bill that will make over 1/3 of Americans felons - OPPOSE THIS Post by: MsRowdyRedhead on October 31, 2011, 11:11:30 pm I dunno, MTM..
Justin Bieber is against the bill... soooo.... Seriously, I think the bill needs to differentiate between use for profit, and non commercial use. Unauthorized use for profit should carry a penalty, as should pirating music. Non commercial use takes nothing away from the originator of the material, and should carry no penalty. Posting on a forum or facebook is free advertising!! Title: Re: A bill that will make over 1/3 of Americans felons - OPPOSE THIS Post by: mtmerrick on November 01, 2011, 02:56:15 am Yeah I know. But his example is valid - and there are plenty of bands that have been discovered through YouTube.
Also, the law DOES NOT differentiate between YOUR copyrighted materials and someone else's. No copyrighted materials at all. This includes brand names, logos, images, screenshots, audio, lyrics, images, and more. EG, the Lego logo is copyrighted. If you have a poster with the Lego logo on your room, you take a picture of you next to it, and you put it in a slideshow on a YouTube video, you go to jail. 5 years. A felony on your permanent record. Title: Re: A bill that will make over 1/3 of Americans felons - OPPOSE THIS Post by: MsRowdyRedhead on November 01, 2011, 03:01:08 am One more very poorly written law rushed to the floor without sufficient research or consideration of the ramifications.
If the real goal is to stop pirating, this is one of the worst ways to go about it. Title: Re: A bill that will make over 1/3 of Americans felons - OPPOSE THIS Post by: mtmerrick on November 01, 2011, 03:14:40 am Every copyright/antipiracy method EVER put in place has only made it harder to obtain legal content, thus increasing copyright violations and piracy
However, a law like this will damage America like nothing else. Under this law, as an example, there is a copyright violation in some way in practically every YouTube video. Almost eery American who has posted a video on YouTube will be a felon under this law, including me. This law has the potential to give a criminal record to an entire generation in one fell swoop. Title: Re: A bill that will make over 1/3 of Americans felons - OPPOSE THIS Post by: MsRowdyRedhead on November 01, 2011, 09:12:00 am More thorough info here
http://idealab.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/10/bipartisan-stop-online-piracy-act-spooks-the-web.php and here http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/189999-house-members-unveil-stop-online-piracy-act Title: Re: A bill that will make over 1/3 of Americans felons - OPPOSE THIS Post by: Mahri828 on November 02, 2011, 09:44:33 am I agree with Mtm. That bill needs to be stopped. While copyright violaters do need to be cracked down on, that violation isn't worthy of a felony; you have a felony, and you're pretty much screwed for life.
Title: Re: A bill that will make over 1/3 of Americans felons - OPPOSE THIS Post by: Flipz on November 02, 2011, 12:59:35 pm I agree with Mtm. That bill needs to be stopped. While copyright violaters do need to be cracked down on, that violation isn't worthy of a felony; you have a felony, and you're pretty much screwed for life. I agree. Note also that this bill, if passed, would kill the "Let's Play" community, which is a MAJOR part of the YouTube and videogame community, and would also kill recorded tournaments and other gameplay videos. Also note that, unlike current law, this bill lets the government go after violators"\ themselves--under the current law, the copyright holder has to initiate the action, so if the company itself enjoys the free publicity and encourages players to share their experiences online (i.e. Mojang with Minecraft and Valve with...well, everything it touches :P ), you're safe, because they won't sue you for something they want you to do. With the government in charge of this, on the other hand... Title: Re: A bill that will make over 1/3 of Americans felons - OPPOSE THIS Post by: mtmerrick on November 02, 2011, 04:24:17 pm with this in place, well, i see youtube being shut down very quickly. ANY video posting service will quickly follow. hell, even hulu is succeptivble to this law, there's no "with permission" clause
Title: Re: A bill that will make over 1/3 of Americans felons - OPPOSE THIS Post by: MsRowdyRedhead on November 02, 2011, 04:27:41 pm OK.. So what we ALL need to do is WRITE to our representatives in Washington and express our concerns. IF you are under 18, use your last name only.. "Mr Smith, Miss Smith" as they will then not be able to tell if you can vote!!
Write, and keep writing!! Title: Re: A bill that will make over 1/3 of Americans felons - OPPOSE THIS Post by: Canama on November 03, 2011, 05:38:04 pm First off, this is basically unenforceable.
If I wanted to, I could go download some games illegally right now (I would rather support the developers, of course, so I won't actually be doing this.) Actually, ~edit for potty mouth~ I downloaded Earth Bound Zero, EarthBound, and Mother 3 a while back. Illegally. No retribution. At all. If they can't enforce laws that are already in effect, they can't enforce this. -Canama LANGUAGE! ~MsRR Title: Re: A bill that will make over 1/3 of Americans felons - OPPOSE THIS Post by: MsRowdyRedhead on November 03, 2011, 06:22:37 pm Allowing the government to pass a bill into law that infringes so deeply on privacy rights and more is lunacy. Just because not all laws are enforced today does not justify apathy about this law. We are only a few clicks away from the day when a supercomputer can monitor every movement made on the internet, if we allow it. And when that day comes, the laws will be enforced. Why?? INCOME.
So do not go so quietly into that dark place where you give up MY freedoms because you are too lazy or apathetic to defend your own. Title: Re: A bill that will make over 1/3 of Americans felons - OPPOSE THIS Post by: Canama on November 03, 2011, 06:31:31 pm I disagree with the law. I don't think it should be passed.
But they can't enforce it if they do pass it, so frankly I'm not that worried. -Canama Title: Re: A bill that will make over 1/3 of Americans felons - OPPOSE THIS Post by: MsRowdyRedhead on November 03, 2011, 06:35:42 pm How sad.
Title: Re: A bill that will make over 1/3 of Americans felons - OPPOSE THIS Post by: Canama on November 03, 2011, 06:43:14 pm Sad that I'm not jumping on the panic train?
-Canama Title: Re: A bill that will make over 1/3 of Americans felons - OPPOSE THIS Post by: MsRowdyRedhead on November 03, 2011, 06:49:13 pm The bill will likely pass if most people your age respond as you have and do nothing.
Jefferson was dead on right. Title: Re: A bill that will make over 1/3 of Americans felons - OPPOSE THIS Post by: Canama on November 03, 2011, 07:30:31 pm If this was something they could enforce, then yes, I would be more active in my opposition. But this won't actually change a thing.
-Canama Title: Re: A bill that will make over 1/3 of Americans felons - OPPOSE THIS Post by: MsRowdyRedhead on November 03, 2011, 09:39:06 pm Allowing the government to pass a bill into law that infringes so deeply on privacy rights and more is lunacy. Just because not all laws are enforced today does not justify apathy about this law. We are only a few clicks away from the day when a supercomputer can monitor every movement made on the internet, if we allow it. And when that day comes, the laws will be enforced. Why?? INCOME. So do not go so quietly into that dark place where you give up MY freedoms because you are too lazy or apathetic to defend your own. Title: Re: A bill that will make over 1/3 of Americans felons - OPPOSE THIS Post by: mtmerrick on November 03, 2011, 10:49:25 pm if this passes, i for one, will be looking into moving to europe. >_>
Title: Re: A bill that will make over 1/3 of Americans felons - OPPOSE THIS Post by: MsRowdyRedhead on November 03, 2011, 10:55:33 pm What will you do to stop it from passing?? Besides posting here, which was a good start.
Title: Re: A bill that will make over 1/3 of Americans felons - OPPOSE THIS Post by: Darth Rexus on November 04, 2011, 07:14:48 am Passed, and the Land of the Free will lose just another little freedom.
Stopped, and Piracy will stay for another day. Of course I oppose this, if it is passed the whole World Wide Web will be crippled. But I do get the idea behind it, piracy is a problem (just ask 17th Century Sailors :P), it needs to be stopped. But there are so many ways to stop it, without this over-the-top law being passed. There is a way to stop the free, but there is no way to stop freedom (if you get that then I am profound :D) Title: Re: A bill that will make over 1/3 of Americans felons - OPPOSE THIS Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 04, 2011, 07:34:11 am Actually, this won't even stop a majority of piracy, just to chime in.
Piracy of music, games, and stuff like that? People who do that won't be affected by this bill. Just movies, and there are many more innocent people who would be affected than the people who try to do pirate-y stuff on other sites. But really. This won't even affect the majority of people there either! The main thing this is likely to do, is try and get Microsoft or Apple more money by forcing people to buy things like music videos or such, instead of just saying "oh, hey, I wanna watch a music video... To YouTube I go!". I don't agree with this, because it seems like mostly a money grab opportunity potentially spurred on by Apple and Microsoft, and it won't do a thing about piracy when it matters most, really. However, on the flip side, I can't do anything about it, since I don't live in the States. |