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« Reply #20 on: February 09, 2009, 07:23:09 pm »

They have different police forces? </jk>

And the group itself shouldn't have to matter, but the person themselves should matter, like MsRR said Wink
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« Reply #21 on: February 09, 2009, 08:05:46 pm »

Well, neither are good, and I was upset that I didn't have a candidate I could happily vote for. But we voted for McCain because of Obama's terrible Beliefs and miniscule amount of experience.
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« Reply #22 on: February 10, 2009, 10:45:35 am »

@ polar: religion and the gvt are meant to be separated. if u didn't guess i m a democrat

@ crx: true but there are other stereotype and racist groups out there. but i think which political party u support matters, i m a big deomcrat, but am not big on obama, the people matter. it is your prospective, which political party u support.
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« Reply #23 on: February 10, 2009, 10:47:59 am »

MÆLSTRØM, are you a democrat
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My political orientation does not matter.  What does matter is presenting a clear and thought-out argument, which I have not seen from you yet in this topic, except for maybe your first post.

That's not something to take offense at, just something to learn from. Wink
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« Reply #24 on: February 10, 2009, 03:46:31 pm »

If you're gonna say it matters, you should also explain HOW it matters.
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« Reply #25 on: February 10, 2009, 03:54:48 pm »

Not necessarily. You're thinking of the stereotypical Dem/Rep. I'm sure there are exceptions. Wink
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« Reply #26 on: February 10, 2009, 04:01:04 pm »

No, that's the individual people. What if next time, someone happened to turn that around? Hmm?

Oh, and maybe you should re-read that post he made on this issue.
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« Reply #27 on: February 10, 2009, 04:42:17 pm »

true polar. but i m a democrat and am against gay marriage. really i m. i m a democrat and unlike polar, but i do agree with him with gay marrige, unlike "stereotypical democrats" (aka obama :p).
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« Reply #28 on: February 10, 2009, 04:48:45 pm »

i don't quite agree, he is a socialist. although he "claims" not to be.
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« Reply #29 on: February 10, 2009, 04:53:07 pm »

And do you have any facts to back that up? =P
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« Reply #30 on: February 10, 2009, 04:57:33 pm »

i do have some for the socialist thing. (luckily for polar (jk)) the middle class tax reduction. based on ur income you pay a certian amount of tax so everyone has a similar amount of their own money. that is socialism from obama.
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« Reply #31 on: February 10, 2009, 06:33:07 pm »

Because it'll be the middle class that "restarts" the economy by buying things, perhaps? Wink
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« Reply #32 on: February 10, 2009, 06:45:15 pm »

And who says Obama isn't honest, and who says experience should count though? Oh, and remember who was a senator?
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« Reply #33 on: February 10, 2009, 07:03:29 pm »

Well the way you phrased it, and the fact that this is an Obama or McCain topic made me think you were saying Obama wasn't honest.
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« Reply #34 on: February 10, 2009, 08:30:07 pm »

well i'm very conservative and i understand he is young and can do more stuff but i just don't trust him
And yet you supported McCain, whose variance from Obama politically was a couple of iotas....

I didn't support either after Bob Barr entered my radar screen  :-\  They don't actually have differing views IMO.

As for abortion, gay marriage, etc.:

I will not support a government who makes federal decisions for or against abortion. If the federal government overturned Roe v. Wade, sure, fine, etc., but don't decide in favor or in disfavor of it again. Let the states take popular votes on it. Ditto on gay marriage.
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« Reply #35 on: February 10, 2009, 11:20:17 pm »

Well the way you phrased it, and the fact that this is an Obama or McCain topic made me think you were saying Obama wasn't honest.

Obama's not honest, as proven in the birth certificate scandal.
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« Reply #36 on: February 11, 2009, 07:18:23 am »

Well the way you phrased it, and the fact that this is an Obama or McCain topic made me think you were saying Obama wasn't honest.

Obama's not honest, as proven in the birth certificate scandal.
And which was this again?
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« Reply #37 on: February 11, 2009, 08:39:45 am »

Well the way you phrased it, and the fact that this is an Obama or McCain topic made me think you were saying Obama wasn't honest.

Obama's not honest, as proven in the birth certificate scandal.
And which was this again?

I've said this at least three times, but...
When Obama entered the election, he never handed in his credentials or birth certificate. Therefore, the people of America were suspicious and Hilary supporters and McCain supporters were "spreading lies" about the fact that he wasn't born in America. Obama was worried about his campaign, so he had his campaign workers put up a birth certificate on his site. Obama told America that it was a genuine birth certificate. It was later proved a fake.
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« Reply #38 on: February 11, 2009, 09:50:05 am »

do you think mccain is any better?
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« Reply #39 on: February 11, 2009, 04:14:46 pm »

he is an xtreme hypocrite, if u did not kno. he has health issues, and if he was elected... palin would take over and i would be in canada.
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