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« on: December 29, 2012, 04:13:17 pm »

So, here's a spot for those of us who play to discuss the game!

Tip:  If you got the Humble Bundle 7 (or paid for all of the DLC), you'll have access to a bunch of extra Heroes.  Certain Heroes are gender-swapped versions of the basic Heroes, with slightly different abilities; some of the additional Heroes outclass the originals, while some of the originals outclass the add-ons.  Here's a list of which Hero you should pick from each pair, based on how well they do their jobs:

Squire/Countess-->Squire (has much better damage output, and the Countess' Joust ability can send her off walls to her death)
Apprentice/Adept-->Adept (neither is much good at DPS (it's better to focus on towers as these classes) and their stats are very similar, but the Adept moves faster and can instantly upgrade/repair Defenses, making her more useful in combat)
Huntress/Ranger-->Ranger (better DPS overall, Invisibility Field spreads to multiple Heroes and Defenses, instead of just the user)
Monk/Initiate-->Monk (does FAR more Damage Per Second than the Initiate thanks to Hero Boost, and his towers more than make up for the Ititiate's Enemy Drain)

Tip: Summoners use Minion Units, which are separate from the Defense Units shared by all other Heroes.  Thus, even if you have the maximum number of towers on the battlefield, the Summoner can still summon minions to help; this is a HUGE advantage; most teams should have one (and only one) Summoner on them.
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« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2012, 05:09:02 pm »

Squire/Countess-->Squire (has much better damage output, and the Countess' Joust ability can send her off walls to her death)
Incorrect. The Squire does not have better damage output, the Countess does, having speed and strength 20% better, but worse health and casting ability. They are fairly evened out depending on what you want to do with them.

Apprentice/Adept-->Adept (neither is much good at DPS (it's better to focus on towers as these classes) and their stats are very similar, but the Adept moves faster and can instantly upgrade/repair Defenses, making her more useful in combat.
Moving fast isn't everything, and instant upgrade/repair is utterly useless as it's basically a watered down version of the Apprentice's Overcharge, which rapidly speeds all casting, not just upgrading and repairing. So it appears you completely overlooked overcharge. Not to mention that Mana Bomb has far more use than Purity Bomb. In fact, the only thing the Adept has got going for it is that it walks faster than the Apprentice.

And to be fair, with the exception of the Adept the genderswapped classes don't really outclass the originals as much as they are better suited to different builds.

You will also want a Barbarian on any map that requires a a lot of DPS done. (e.g. Monsterfest maps)
A Series EV is also pretty much necessary on any nightmare map due to the Tower Buff Beams.
A Jester can be your worst enemy or your greatest ally, for they have one of the most powerful hero abilities in the game: the wheel of fortune, which can buff enemies, slow enemies, kill off a percentage of enemies, debuff enemies, damage all enemies, downgrade towers, upgrade towers, heal allies, and a few more. They can also wield any weapon, and the presents that are their towers can spawn any tower, sometimes for less defense units than they would be ordinarily, to an ogre.

The most successful strategy is to use all towers possible. In the nightmare difficulty, it is very difficult to get by without using a combination of the Monk's Auras, the Huntress' traps, either the Squire's or the Apprentice's towers (preferably the Squire's because enemies can be immune to elements), the EV's beams and the Summoner's Minions.
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« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2012, 05:43:35 pm »

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« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2012, 06:28:41 pm »

Ah, I see.  Well, I still feel that Adept would be more useful to me than Apprentice, since I never really use Mana Bomb and I rely on towers anyway.

Summoner HAS to be my absolute favorite class, though.  The ability to max out both DU AND MU will be VERY helpful once I start taking on harder challenges--plus the multi-pet thing will be hugely helpful as well.

Also, we need to band together and buy the Humble Bundle for Blade, so he doesn't have to miss out.
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« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2012, 08:59:18 pm »

Everyone probably knows I won't be able to play it anyway, since my computer can't handle DirectX 9.0c. That'll be remedied hopefully in the NEAR future, but how near near will be, is a totally different question. So yeah. I mean, theoretically I have access to another computer, but I'm not entirely certain to what extent. And loading up a bunch of stuff probably pushes the limits a bit. =/
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« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2012, 10:50:10 pm »

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« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2012, 02:55:58 am »

Everyone probably knows I won't be able to play it anyway, since my computer can't handle DirectX 9.0c. That'll be remedied hopefully in the NEAR future, but how near near will be, is a totally different question. So yeah. I mean, theoretically I have access to another computer, but I'm not entirely certain to what extent. And loading up a bunch of stuff probably pushes the limits a bit. =/

*cough* $7 now vs. $100+ whenever you get a better computer *cough* Wink

At a MINIMUM, you'll want all of the extra class packs, so that's $20 for the game and another ~$15 for the extra classes...already you're spending 5 times the price you'd be paying now.

Just saying, buy now, play when you can.  Steam is forever. Wink
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« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2012, 12:28:10 pm »

Yeah, I've got several games on my account for when I get a new computer.
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« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2012, 10:08:56 am »

Hmm. What do you know. It MAY just be sooner, rather than later after all.
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« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2012, 02:07:08 pm »

You have two days and three hours to buy.  Go go go! Wink
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« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2013, 04:18:47 pm »

Yeah, that problem won't be fixed in time. =P Even if I decided to try to go with a Paypal route, the money wouldn't be there in time. =/
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« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2013, 04:48:06 pm »

I could gift it to you and you could return the favor when you get set up...
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« Reply #12 on: January 01, 2013, 05:02:49 pm »

It's possible, yes, but I'm not entirely sure when that'll be... =/ I want things to be able to be set up faster, but I don't know when that will be possible. =/
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« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2013, 09:05:06 am »

I could gift it to you and you could return the favor when you get set up...

It's possible, yes, but I'm not entirely sure when that'll be... =/ I want things to be able to be set up faster, but I don't know when that will be possible. =/

MSRR, do it, there's barely 8 hours left to the bundle, and Blade will forever regret missing out on almost US$150 worth of games he can get for $7. Wink

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« Reply #14 on: January 02, 2013, 12:36:33 pm »

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« Reply #15 on: January 08, 2013, 04:36:13 pm »

Say, Red, did you end up buying Blade the Bundle?  Just wondering. Wink  Also, I sent you a friend request on Steam, but I think it may have expired; I'll try again before I start playing today. Wink

Anyhow, after a long stint of waiting for tech support to get my Pyro pet back (long story, had to do, in part, with holiday vacations for staff and the inability to log back into Ranked until the problem was fixed), I'm back in the game!  My Summoner is now my highest-leveled character, and a nice Level 70-odd player gifted me a sweet dragon pet, which means I can actually do some damage while I wait for my minions to kill things.  I'm hoping to grab a Genie soon, which will help me TREMENDOUSLY with mana for building things.

BTW, I stand by my earlier statements that, if you buy ANY extra DLC for Dungeon Defenders (i.e. if you don't have the Bundle), you should buy the Summoner.  Grin
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« Reply #16 on: March 05, 2013, 10:10:42 pm »

Hey there!

Humble Bundle with Android 5 has landed, bringing six mind-blowing games for Android, Windows, Mac, and Linux!

Pay what you want for Beat Hazard Ultra, Dynamite Jack, Solar 2, and NightSky HD. And if you pay more than the average, you'll also get Super Hexagon and Dungeon Defenders!
 
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« Reply #17 on: March 06, 2013, 08:56:15 am »

Hmm. If I could get the bundle somehow, I so would. I still regret missing out on the last one, but there wasn't much I can do. Still not much I can do, but I can at least try; when does it end?
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