Pokémon General Discussion

[The Host]

DB: 'k. Just so you know(in case you come across a second one). As he posted in the Tourney Rules topic, Item Clause is only used in Nintendo events for some reason or another. I usually run 2-3 Choice Scarfs on my team, so that my lead is faster than others, and so that Lucario can actually get a move in...

@Blade: You're using Garchomp and getting beaten by Sneasel?? Something is wrong with that... Which print are you going for? Try using a Breloom to win

@BT: Technically yes, but I have no wi-fi, so no, sorry :-\

[Ddude The Insane]

...Well, my friend and I had a battle. IT was my Scizor vs. his Lucario. Each one was level 30. I got pwned...my darned Scizor lost like 1/4 of his speed when he leveled up. =/ I think my Scyther was actually stronger than my Scizor...

Alright, I found a compromise for my little lead Pokemon problem. I wasn't really that into Azelf...so I figured out a good replacement-a Tank Drapion with Toxic Spikes.

[B~T]

Scizor's Speed is lower than Scyther's when it evolves. However, it can hold its own in battle more efficiently than Scyther as well as a massive Attack stat. Not to mention better typing.

[The Host]

Bullet Punch + Swords Dance + Life Orb + Technician + STAB = The most powerful priority move in OU. Scizor is amazing. And if your Scizor also knows Superpower you should be able to beat Lucario unless it has HP Fire. Make your Scizor like this:

Scizor @Life Orb
Adamant Technician
4HP 252Atk 252 Speed
-Bullet Punch
-Superpower/Roost
-X-Scissor
-Swords Dance
Life Orb allows you to last max 10 turns without Roost, so Roost is a good choice, however Superpower gives you more coverage. X-Scissor is there for STAB, and BP gives okay coverage, but is Priority and with LO, SD, TEchnician it becomes a 180 Base Power move plus STAB ( i think I did that right, anywho, its strong). You should survive most physical attacks because of good Defence and great resistances, but fire kills you.

[Ddude The Insane]

Well, I was GOING to go with that, but for some reason my Life ORb is gone...so I'm doing that w/ Roost-Life Orb. My problem is, he's making the Lucario a Sp. Attacker, and I have weak-ish Sp. Def.

[Magical Girl Mimi]

@Blade: You're using Garchomp and getting beaten by Sneasel?? Something is wrong with that... Which print are you going for? Try using a Breloom to win

Hey, Ice is 4x effective on Garchomp... >_> But I said I beat him...

Only to getting trashed by like the evo of Spheal a few battles later, right before I was about to finally complete Ice. T_T Something tells me I need to train a new Garchomp...

[Ddude The Insane]

=P

^_^ According to Serebii, headtbutt trees ARE coming back!

Alright, Tank/Lead Drapion it is for me. Here's the setup:

Drapion

Leftovers-Battle Armor-Impish

Taunt
Toxic Spikes
Crunch
Knock Off

EVs
252 HP
6 Atk
252 Def

Improvements ar welcomed.

[Magical Girl Mimi]

Yeah it seems like it, and it seems it's all trees. And really, it makes sense, because from what I see of in-game pics, half the trees in it are Headbutt Trees, so why not make all of them in the remakes the same?

[Ddude The Insane]

It said now ALL of the trees appear to be headbutt-able.

[Magical Girl Mimi]

That's... What I just said. =P

[Ddude The Insane]

Oh. I misread it. =P

Someone give me a good OU Water type with a setup the doesn't require Leftovers. I only have one and it is really hard to get more.

[The Host]

Gyarados, Starmie, Kingdra, Swampert, Tentacruel and Vaporeon would be OU water types that come to mind. But which one you use depends on what you want it for. Gya, Kingdra, Swampert would be good sweepers or leads, while Starmie is more for Rapid Spinning, although it can also sweep a bit. Tentacruel would be a T-Spike absorber and could set up T-Spikes for your own team, and with great SpDef it can wall a few things. Vaporeon is normally Wish Support, with excellent HP and SpAtk.

[Ddude The Insane]

Well, any Toxic Spiker is pretty much out of the picture, as my new lead/tank-Drapion (I figured out a loophole in my little Azelf situation) covers that. I'm leaning towards a Choice Band Swampert, as the best Sweeper option.

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DT i know you want drapion as a lead, but forreterres is a better option imho.

also bt can you review dugtrio?

[Ddude The Insane]

Nah, I'd prefer to stick with Drapion. I don't want to have two Pokemon with the same types. As you may have noticed, I'm making sure to use 1-weeakness Pokemon.

[Skullkeepa14]

Can u guys recommend me a pokemon team that consists of the basic 6 pokemon elements: Fire, Water, Grass, Electricity, and the other ones Plz? No suggestions r out of the question 0:)

[The Host]

I'm guessing you're going with OU right?
Fire: Heatran
Water: Gyarados
Grass: Celebi
Elec: Electivire
and two others. Those were just the first that come to mind. Gyarados can be used to lure in Elec moves, and when you think one is coming just switch in Electivire for a Speed Boost. Heatran is pretty powerful, and can be used as a lead. Celebi has aweful types, but is pretty bulkys and can assume multiple roles with 100 Base Stats across the boards.

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@ dt: i know it overlaps, but it is an elite spiker/rocker/spinner. Also drapion can be taunted out of toxic spikes, and tokic spikes is very easy to deal with; you can send out a poison pokémon.

[Ddude The Insane]

I'm passing. Plus I already used my only available Stealth Rock on Azelf...

[Admiral-Ike]

What do you think of this team?
Charzard
Metagross
Tyranitar
Blissey
Gengar
Lucario
Pretty much OU pokemon... All level 100. Should I change any pokemon?