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« Reply #1420 on: July 12, 2009, 10:56:19 pm »

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It's very obvious that you're very new to the biz of Pokemon. Smiley  Here's a few tidbits of commentary: 

1.)  I'm a little baffled as to why you're doubling up types on your team.  You've got two Electric-types, two Ghost-types, two Grass-types, etc.  It's getting a little redundant, and that's very unnecessary.  You should never have serious type overlapping.  Usually, there should only be one type overlap, maybe two on very rare situations, but not like this.  Having two Grass-types is already more than enough.  Three is overkill.  I wouldn't use Tropius or Tangela, or even Roselia, for that matter.  Torterra is really the only one you should stick with.  What is the moveset of your Torterra? 

2.)  I'm not really sure why you're using a Pachirisu.  Rotom and even Luxray are better than him, although Rotom isn't acting to its full potential unless it's using an appliance, which severely ups its stats.  It just baffles me a little, that's all. 

3.)  On your Roselia, you have two damaging attacks of the same type - Mega Drain and Magical Leaf.  The rule of thumb in Pokemon is that only in extremely rare situations should you ever have two similar attacks like these on the same moveset, and this doesn't come close to one of those situations.  I understand you probably don't have a lot to work with, but it shouldn't be done.  Also, Roselia is usually preferred on teams that didn't pick Turtwig.  Chimchar was picked more often, due to the sheer lack of Fire-types this generation, and Roselia would have gone along better with that. 

4.)  I personally don't feel like Confuse Ray is that devestating, but that's just my opinion.  It's certainly capable of mixing things up in your favor, but I think moves like Toxic, Choice Specs Draco Meteor, etc. are more devestating.  I think it has a lot to do with your outlook of Pokemon depending on the amount of experience you have, but I can understand what you mean. 

5.)  Drifloon, and subsequently, Drifblim, is a very difficult Pokemon to raise with seemingly small gain.  I remember trying to raise a Drifblim when I was starting out in Diamond Version (back when I was still a n00b at Pokemon Tongue ), and it just never really seemed to take off well.  The only thing it had going for it was its substantial HP and its above average Special Attack and Speed, but that was it.  It seemed to crumble very easily. 

If you would care, I can give advice for a team in Platinum.  I'll give you some basic advice. 

1.)  As I said before, never have overlapping types, and that also includes having Pokemon that are weak to similar types.  For example, if I was to use Tropius, Salamence, Garchomp, and Torterra, this is a bad team setup, for two reasons.  One, there are overlapping types, and two, all four of them have a X4 weakness to Ice-type moves, which is a big no-no in Pokemon.  Especially with Ice-type moves, due to their high commonness, but that's for another lesson. 

2.)  Keep good balance.  Some Pokemon should be used as bulkier Pokemon that can take several hits and offer team support, while others will act as "Physical/Special Sweepers", which means that if a Pokemon is defined as a Sweeper, that Pokemon is defined as one that's meant to hit very hard, very quickly.  Here's the team of Pokemon I used on my team in Diamond Version (I also picked Torterra in both Diamond Version and Platinum Version): 

Torterra
Staraptor
Luxray
Floatzel
Rapidash
Garchomp

The team has nice balance, and although three of them are weak to Ice-type moves (two of which get X4), they both offer Ground-type support, which can help get around that.  Now, one has to note that there was a lot less to work with in Diamond Version than there was in Platinum Version.  I would say that Torterra, Staraptor, and Garchomp formed the core of this team, but let's look at my Platinum team: 

Torterra
Staraptor
Luxray
Floatzel
Infernape
Gliscor

While very little seems to have changed, a lot changed with this team.  Having become quite fluent in competitive battle in the two years between Diamond and Platinum, I was able to learn from my mistakes and see what I should and shouldn't do.  Also, Platinum was considerably easier to work with, as there were 59 more Pokemon added to the Sinnoh Pokedex, Gliscor being one of them.  But the point is that you just need to try out different things and see what works well for you.  Different Pokemon work better for different people.  And it's just a classic example that Pokemon is simple trial and error, and that you keep having to learn from your mistakes in order to get better. 

In essence, just try to keep variety going in your team.  You've got Flareon, Ponyta/Rapidash, Magmar/Magmortar, and (a fourth fire-type that's slipping my mind at the moment Tongue ) to work with.  Start by raising one of them. Wink

Ah.  Firstly, let me explain something.  The overlap...it's temporary.  I'm the kind of Trainer who switches out pokemon in my team often (hence, why I'm level-grinding-these Pokemon [well, not Torterra] have been sitting in my PC waiting for a chance to use them.  I've stocked up on Electric- and Grass-types so I can kill Crasher Wake with minimal resistance.  As for Pachirisu...I really want to get a Shiny Stone so I can evolve togetic into tokekiss so I can teach him Aura Sphere.  Plus, it'll pick up other evolutionary stones as time goes on, meaning I can evolve whatever I want whenever I want to.

Another problem is that I don't have wifi, and for some reason I can't access the Underground; thus, it's rather difficult to get Heart Scales to use at the Move Relearner.  There is the guy in Solaceon Town, but he has this annoying habit of asking for Pokemon that I haven't caught yet...

As far as Roselia goes-that's what she had when I caught her, and she has done exceptionally well, smashing through Level 30 enemies--Psychic-type enemies, mind you--with little to no resistance.  Also, I knew absolutely nothing about Pokemon when I first started playing, other than what I could learn from Super Smash bros Brawl; thus, I picked the Pokemon that I thought was cutest-which was Turtlewig.  Still, I'm always open to advice--what would be her ideal moveset?

Confuse Ray-Yeah, I just have really good luck with it.  Over 85% of the time, the enemy hurts itself instead of attacking (at least for me), so it's a really effective way to take enemies down over long battles.  My ideal Pokemon would have Leech Seed, Confuse Ray, Razor Leaf (or some more type-effective attack that has a good critical-hit ratio and hits both opponents in a Double Battle), and Aura Sphere.  Sadly, I don't think such a Pokemon exists...

Drifloon-Ah, OK.  In that case, I'll shelve Drifloon, evolve him at a later date to give Drifblim more complete Pokedex stats, and then shelve him again.

Team tips:
1) OK...I do have a fairly large number of types...I'll check what I have and get back to you.
2) I see...Well, I was planning to bring Kedabra and Gyarados back onto my main team as soon as I'm past Crasher Wake...and I'm planning to evolve Togetic...

My biggest problem is that I'm still heavily reliant on HM moves to get around (once I've gotten all of the HM moves and unlocked all of the goodies, I can rely solely on Fly and Surf and/or Waterfall to get around); and since I never thought to learn about Bibarel being a good HM slave (actually, I never even thought about the concep of HM slaves, period), I'm stuck with a couple of really good Pokemon saddled with HM moves.  Namely, my Torterra is stuck with Cut, and Togekiss is stuck with Rock Smash (don't ask).  Any tips on how to remedy the problem?

As far as Fire-types: What (in Platinum) are they really good for?  I'm not a huge fan of Fire-types, so I don't really know...
Anyhow, I do have that one Ponyta...I'll work on it once I'm done with Wake.

BTW, I realize that I can only get the one Evee in this game...so what should I evolve it into?  Or should I keep it as an Evee forever?  I know I don't want it to become Flareon (like I said, not a fan of Fire-types), but what are the others and their types?  And which one is most effective all-around?

BTW, as soon as I get a chance, can I PM you a list of the Pokemon I have caught so far, along with a list of the TMs/HMs I currently have?  That way you can explain to me what I should be doing.
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