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« Reply #180 on: March 10, 2009, 10:20:43 am »

Looked good with proclicker. He had no friends and no change from what the figs first look like.

I think i found some now:
http://mln.lego.com/en-us/Publicview/Frodobaggins29.aspx
http://mln.lego.com/en-us/Publicview/frodolewa.aspx
http://mln.lego.com/en-us/Publicview/frodolewa1.aspx
http://mln.lego.com/en-us/Publicview/frodolewa4.aspx
http://mln.lego.com/en-us/Publicview/frodolewa5.aspx

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A-frodbaggins is the only one on each of the potential dupes FL
B-frodbaggins has a bonehunter trophy mod with 2K+ Thornax,and the potential dupes only have Thornax-growing modules on their pages.
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« Reply #181 on: March 10, 2009, 01:50:46 pm »

Found a Potential Dupe but unsure of the Duper:
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Not really sure about this one...
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« Reply #182 on: March 10, 2009, 03:09:04 pm »

i agree with mn. the thormax thing imo is a great way to reveal dupes...
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« Reply #183 on: March 10, 2009, 03:13:46 pm »

i agree with mn. the thormax thing imo is a great way to reveal dupes...

Yeah I would say Frodobaggins29 has been busted.  I just wonder what happened to frodolewa2 and 3...  I also wonder if in this case the duper is just using the dupes for Thornax or Clicks too.  Not that it matters.
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« Reply #184 on: March 11, 2009, 03:05:42 pm »

This is the second time Thornax has been the downfall of a duper. Someone else identified a duper in much the same way.
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« Reply #185 on: March 11, 2009, 03:47:20 pm »

Third. I did it before i knew duping was wrong,i still have some of those Thornax. Although i did try to get the dupe the badge too.
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« Reply #186 on: March 14, 2009, 10:26:06 pm »

You should delete the dupe.
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« Reply #187 on: March 14, 2009, 10:30:00 pm »

I did a LONG time ago. At least a month.
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« Reply #188 on: March 17, 2009, 11:08:46 am »

I got suspicious a few days ago when I got showered with NEBs from Da_LegoBuilder.  I am cutting back on reporting dupes but when they rocket up a Top 10 list it bothers me (Currently #3 on the Sticker top 10).  Otherwise I don't really care.

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There were no obvious dupes in his friends list so I did a couple of quick guesses and found these.

http://mln.lego.com/en-us/publicview/Da_LegoBuilder1.aspx
http://mln.lego.com/en-us/publicview/Da_LegoBuilder2.aspx
http://mln.lego.com/en-us/publicview/Da_LegoBuilder3.aspx
http://mln.lego.com/en-us/publicview/Da_LegoBuilder4.aspx
http://mln.lego.com/en-us/publicview/Da_LegoBuilder5.aspx

These also appear to be Thornax Farms.  All are Rank 2 except #5 which is Rank 1.  #1, #4, and #5 have no friends at all.  #2 and #3 are friends of each other and a couple others who are not linkable as dupes.

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« Reply #189 on: March 17, 2009, 03:20:42 pm »

I got suspicious a few days ago when I got showered with NEBs from Da_LegoBuilder.  I am cutting back on reporting dupes but when they rocket up a Top 10 list it bothers me (Currently #3 on the Sticker top 10).  Otherwise I don't really care.

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There were no obvious dupes in his friends list so I did a couple of quick guesses and found these.

http://mln.lego.com/en-us/publicview/Da_LegoBuilder1.aspx
http://mln.lego.com/en-us/publicview/Da_LegoBuilder2.aspx
http://mln.lego.com/en-us/publicview/Da_LegoBuilder3.aspx
http://mln.lego.com/en-us/publicview/Da_LegoBuilder4.aspx
http://mln.lego.com/en-us/publicview/Da_LegoBuilder5.aspx

These also appear to be Thornax Farms.  All are Rank 2 except #5 which is Rank 1.  #1, #4, and #5 have no friends at all.  #2 and #3 are friends of each other and a couple others who are not linkable as dupes.

I hope this is proper presentation of evidence.


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« Reply #190 on: March 17, 2009, 04:26:28 pm »

Good job =D

Another thing that could be done to help, as suggested on MLNT, is to click the modules of others that aren't dupers.
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Another thing that could be done to help, as suggested on MLNT, is to click the modules of others that aren't dupers.

The problem with this is that folks are probably only likely to do this in a click/click trade which limits your max clicks per day to a max of 100 at Rank 10.  My experience is folks don't generally just give clicks away.  This gives dupers an advantage that is hard to overcome.  Folks that actively run successful stores have a shot but that is about it.

One idea I had would be to have someone open up 2 dummy accounts.  One would be called "I-am-a-dupe" the other "I-am-a-duper".  Someone would then send friends requests to the appropriate accounts just to kind of say "We're watching you".  I would doubt any of the requests would be accepted but if they were all the better.  The other problem is finding someone willing to manage the dummy accounts and send out the messages.  I don't really want that job.

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Another thing that could be done to help, as suggested on MLNT, is to click the modules of others that aren't dupers.

The problem with this is that folks are probably only likely to do this in a click/click trade which limits your max clicks per day to a max of 100 at Rank 10.  My experience is folks don't generally just give clicks away.  This gives dupers an advantage that is hard to overcome.  Folks that actively run successful stores have a shot but that is about it.

One idea I had would be to have someone open up 2 dummy accounts.  One would be called "I-am-a-dupe" the other "I-am-a-duper".  Someone would then send friends requests to the appropriate accounts just to kind of say "We're watching you".  I would doubt any of the requests would be accepted but if they were all the better.  The other problem is finding someone willing to manage the dummy accounts and send out the messages.  I don't really want that job.



I don't recommend it... it is duping to discourage duping...questionable.
I DO recommend contacting LEGO with the information you have posted here. If they get enough of it...
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« Reply #193 on: March 18, 2009, 04:36:59 pm »

There's just one thing, would this work out in the open where even the dupers can see it?
I guess they answered the question, I'll ask another, why do you care who dupes and who doesn't?
   Never mattered to me, one way or the other, who duplicated their accounts and who didn't. This place and the MLN has always been to me about showing off my Lego, and if that meant drawing attention by ranking forward by getting more red bricks, then so be it.

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    since then, on MLN, I concentrated on submitting cool models. It seems to have worked. Although, as I said in another forum and topic..."LEGO's MLN is a computer program game, designed for several purposes, to promote creativity so you have fun and buy more Lego." They monitor what we say, what we submit as models, and they don't have the resources to provide you with a conscience. That's up to you.
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« Reply #194 on: March 18, 2009, 04:58:08 pm »

It's because of people like pando, who dupe to the top of the top ten, making it not fair for those who actually play it right, because they can't get to the top without duping themselves, which starts the whole process all over again.

And for a little note, this is kinda like what happened in DRC, people got the Uberglitch and glitched to the top by abusing it, then people complained because they couldn't get there fairly, and Lego took the game down. But, since the ratio of dupes to fair people is low, and there's more, I doubt it'll turn out like DRC, or at least not any time soon.
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« Reply #195 on: March 18, 2009, 05:41:35 pm »

uberglitching is not wrong imo. but now i may stop here, because they may take mln down
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« Reply #196 on: March 18, 2009, 06:02:24 pm »

Whoa, whoa, whoa. You call getting millions of points in seconds/minutes not wrong? When the most you could get from one race is around 5000? >_>
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