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« on: April 05, 2009, 02:30:08 pm »

Admins of MLNO,

It has come to my attention that several incidents since the creation of our Community have shaken it to its foundations. They were the jokes and tests that inflicted forum-wide damage. Each time, feelings were hurt and only damage was made. I am sure that I have the support of most of our Community when I say that enough damage has been made. The current joke, MLNA, is on a collision course with failure. Many people consider leaving each time, yet somehow they don't. But MLNO is at a downfall because it is becoming larger and larger, and its staff hierarchy is outdated, to say the least. So I offer you a set of requirements to improve MLNO:

1: Making a Member Council. The Council should be elected by the Community and should represent the Community. They would have the power to make an instant referendum on any part of our Community, except for removing the three core admins: NWJ, R8 and Omega.

2: Make every drill be on a special Blue alert scale, which shows how we should act but prevents panic.

3: Any joke that would have effect on the whole forum has to be approved by the Member Council, who have the right to make a referendum about it.

4: Any joke or drill can be stopped if three reasons are presented or if the Member Council stops it because of dissatisfaction


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It's II because the last one was sent to the Staff Board. Nothing has changed tho.

I got R8 premission to post it in News and Comments, BTW.
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« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2009, 02:42:05 pm »

There are problems with that though, like the possibility that member elected stuff could be just based on Popularity contests instead of based on their qualities, plus, stuff like April Fools jokes aren't supposed to be known until after it's over, which this method would render impossible, since the community would know it all.
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« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2009, 02:50:15 pm »

There are problems with that though, like the possibility that member elected stuff could be just based on Popularity contests instead of based on their qualities, plus, stuff like April Fools jokes aren't supposed to be known until after it's over, which this method would render impossible, since the community would know it all.
1: That can be fixed somehow...
2: Why do you need to make a joke like this one? Why not make something less obvious and more funny? Besides, it was the fourth of aprill...
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« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2009, 02:54:03 pm »

1. Name a way.
2. VahkiPower anyone? And the admins were all on board. And I wasn't on on April 01.
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« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2009, 02:56:58 pm »

1. And that somehow is...?

2. Was he here to pull it on the first? No. Could it have been fun/funny? If you acknowledged the fact that it was a joke and accepted it, yes. Besides, it was the only "complete" idea posted in the Staff Board. If you had a better idea, you didn't tell us.
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« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2009, 02:58:43 pm »

the joke was a little freaky at first (I thought that the forum had been hacked), but now that we know that it's a joke, it's pretty fun.
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« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2009, 03:29:27 pm »

I personally don't have problems with the Jokes. I just... Wish it didn't seem so real.

I think a Member Council is a good Idea though.
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« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2009, 04:03:15 pm »

And how would you prevent it from becoming chaos from elected people just becoming a popularity contest without any actual experience? I haven't yet heard an actual explanation to that part Wink
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« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2009, 04:15:11 pm »

If you ARE going to have an election, I think you should give the prank team a chance to possibly redeem themselves before it is held.

That said, if there were an election, I think we would have to have a board for candidate statements and debate in order for it to have a hope of being anything but a popularity contest. One of the things I would like to see change is long staff chats in publically visable but locked topics. This insults the general membership, and has the potential to hurt the feelings of the original topic writer. It is a totally innappropriate use of moderator power.. ( look I can post here but the rest of you can't) which may be fun for the mods, but is not for anyone else.
Much like the's prank. I am gussing the staff and volunteers had a gas, but I am not really sure anyone ELSE but them had fun at all.

Have you ever POLLED the membership to see if we enjoy these pranks??  You might be surprised... or we might.
I just think that not everybody has the same sense of humor, and not everyone enjoys battles, weapons and threats.

As for the actual date... if you want to have an April fools joke, you'd better make it a point to be around on April 1. I daresay you were seen at other sites... so that excuse does not hold water.

 
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« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2009, 04:16:05 pm »

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1: How do I name it?
Presidential election? Nope, it's still a popularity contest... but it would have a few modifications in the voting process (Everyone would give a reason why they vote for that person)
2: I wasn't on BZP then to experience it, but anyway, BZP has fourty thoushand members, I'm sure some of them were not happy...

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« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2009, 04:35:48 pm »

I daresay you were seen at other sites... so that excuse does not hold water.
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And you suggested the last one, which, might I add, all admins that were on, that didn't mind their inboxes being spammed up with 3-4 way PM conversations, agreed to, and Chase's was never even run by the admins. And Ogihci was barely complained about, and only because of the websites that weren't even real. If you remember like the geo incident, none of this happened ever.
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« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2009, 04:39:19 pm »

Mea Culpa... I was told that you were on BZP.
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« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2009, 04:40:25 pm »

I daresay you were seen at other sites... so that excuse does not hold water.
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Yes, I ran Arkano, But I thougt that since the disaster of Arkano we learned that these things weren't right.
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« Reply #14 on: April 05, 2009, 04:40:55 pm »

0_o I couldn't have been; I wasn't even on the computer at all the past week! The only day I was on the comp was Friday and yesterday...

The disaster... Oh yes, Ab-Z going and spoiling everything for everyone. I remember. And revealing an admin secret. How could I forget that.

How was Ogihci pushing it? All that was happening was riddles.

Um, I thought the complaints were that this happened too much?
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« Reply #15 on: April 05, 2009, 04:42:49 pm »

0_o I couldn't have been; I wasn't even on the computer at all the past week! The only day I was on the comp was Friday and yesterday...
Still, it's not like all the blame is on you...
I can't help but notice that the April Fools topic in the Staff Board was made incredibly late...
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Well, yeah. I didn't post it until the night of the 31, cause I thought someone would think of it before that. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #17 on: April 05, 2009, 04:48:31 pm »

Why not make a POLL to see if people like pranks, and a seperate one for riddles.
That way we can see if it is a good idea to have them, and if so, how often...
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« Reply #18 on: April 05, 2009, 04:48:56 pm »

You mean like this?

http://mln.smfforfree4.com/index.php/topic,3122.0.html
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« Reply #19 on: April 05, 2009, 05:06:03 pm »

the poll seems to be tied...
I think it needs an option somewhere between ok and great. I don't feel either, I feel in the middle. I eventually decided on ok.
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