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« Reply #1580 on: September 08, 2009, 11:53:57 am »

1. ... It's not out here... Are you in Autralia by any chance? Because it comes out in NA next Wednesday(In 7 days), and in the UK on October 5th, last I checked.

2. There's gonna be another movie next year if this sells enough =)

3. *Points at poor Botar and Matoro*

4. That Click does ^^ Of course, I've only seen the clips currently, but Click's funny in them.

5. Well, technically they could release someone else with Ice powers, or just forgo them, or at least Strakk, since well, Strakk doesn't exactly play by the rules. =P And there's a reason why Strakk's not in the rest of the movie, if anyone's seen the recent comic. But he would be cool to have in the group, as they need someone who doesn't just go against the Skrall and co for no reason.

6. Spoiler filled if I respond for info, so I'm not gonna comment. =P

7. Hmm, interesting, Bionicle Language? When it comes out here, mind PMing me certain locations of the text, after I've watched it? =P

8. I have no clue, but it looks like a common rahicreature that has a Metus mask, doubt it's any importance... Look at others, like Klakk and such. And if so, then it may be a Brickmaster or such promo like Click this year. And if I'm wrong, then let us find out in the movie Wink ... Plus, how would you build it? =/

9. *Coughs* Kiina movie.

10. Ackar says Hi. =P


1. Not out here yet either. But um... There's a site with it up. You can watch for 57 minutes one day 57 the next. Of course you can see it all and download if you pay them. Which is just plain wrong to pay a website to watch a movie they shouldn't have up anyway. Go figure.

3. In above post I think the big guys still alive though and likely the other one as well. Need to kepe evil around and what not for a couple of movies.

4. Yeah interesting dialouge through the whole thing Scarabax are seen as disgusting creatures by the general populaces it seems. They are very very cool though you'll see. }:>)

5. I'd wager it will be Gelu the Glatorian Legend for ICE in the upcoming films.

7. Trust me you won't need my help to spot the language every where in the right scenes. };>)

8. Yeah not sur ehow'd they make it some interlocking pieces perhaps. It's now my Avatar image cause it's cool.

9. Hahah you posted before my edit. }:>)
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« Reply #1581 on: September 08, 2009, 12:00:39 pm »

You see Skrall in the movie... And apparently a model of Malum. And well, um, Roxtus is the place that the Skrall live in.

*Responses to me, number one*

1. -_- Will you at least buy it when it comes out so we may have a chance at the next movie being made?

3. Skopio got piles of rocks on him(if you're wondering why I said that, look at the BBB music video, or the latest sneak peek), which is kinda different from burying down in the sand...

4. Ackar seems to think so at least. =P

5. Possibly... Depends on if they go and find a caravan route and convince him to join, if we're even on Bara Magna next year(We've gotta wait for November's comic for full wrap-up)

7. Okay then, is there any hidden that I may overlook?

8. Is that the image from the movie, or the clip? The clip may be a better choice for right now, just in case.

9. =P
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« Reply #1582 on: September 08, 2009, 12:10:08 pm »

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As for dead characters I'm in serious doubt they are dead. It's bionicles.
Characters get killed all the time in BIONICLE.

Botar, the 2008 makuta, Matoro, Lhikan, Sidorak... the list is getting long.

True, but I can't see the big guy being dead he's just covered in rocks I'm sure he can burrow since he did pop up form the sand anyway.

I gott'a say he' smuch cooler with his rider laying down. I modified my own to movie match way better than a seated position.


Not a spoiler I'd say but here's the list of characters you don't see in the movie.

Gelu
Skrall
Malum
Zesk
Tarduk in Person (but you do see this bionicle form a plenty as general population)
Atakus in Person (but you do see this bionicle form a plenty as the Skrall)
Crotesius and the Cendox
Scodonius, Kirbaz and the Kaxium
Sahmad and Spikit the Baranus
Fero and Skirmax in Person (but you do see this bionicle form a plenty as the Bone Hunters)
Roxtus (We don't know what Roxtus looks like because he hasn't been created yet. Fero and Skirmax bring him captives we are told.)

So look for them in Bionicle The Creator Unknown (Hahaha)

Then why do we see the Roxtus Arena in the film? And Roxtus isn;t a character... it's a village. The Skrall. The Bone Hunters. It's where they come from.
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« Reply #1583 on: September 08, 2009, 01:04:53 pm »

You see Skrall in the movie... And apparently a model of Malum. And well, um, Roxtus is the place that the Skrall live in.

*Responses to me, number one*

1. -_- Will you at least buy it when it comes out so we may have a chance at the next movie being made?

3. Skopio got piles of rocks on him(if you're wondering why I said that, look at the BBB music video, or the latest sneak peek), which is kinda different from burying down in the sand...

4. Ackar seems to think so at least. =P

5. Possibly... Depends on if they go and find a caravan route and convince him to join, if we're even on Bara Magna next year(We've gotta wait for November's comic for full wrap-up)

7. Okay then, is there any hidden that I may overlook?

8. Is that the image from the movie, or the clip? The clip may be a better choice for right now, just in case.

9. =P

Hmm that's true Skrall are generic more or less like Stronius he's generic to there's two of him in the movie.
1. The day I watched I went looking for it to rent or buy but it wasn't around I thought it came out on the 5th but am mistaken.

3. Yes but he's still on soft earth he burrowed out of. So he could burrow under the rocks and get away. The controller of skopio is protected, his heads inside the head of the skopio unit. So he might still be alive.

4. It's more thna just ackar. One of those running jokes in the begining of the movie. Ew you have a scarbax on you let me knock it off. Lots of people try hahaha.

5. Well Gelu is the Ice Legend, with all the other legends forming the main grew in the movie it wouldn't surprise me. Only odd man out really is Gresh.
It forms up Mata nui, Ackar, Kiina, Gresh. 
Vastus and Tarix settle some tribal dispute. Thus Vastus never makes it into the core unit oddly enough.

7. There are some less obvious ones carved into stone for a frame or two.

8. Took it form the clip. But it is part of the movie.
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« Reply #1584 on: September 08, 2009, 01:11:52 pm »

1. If you live in the UK, it comes out on the 5th... Of October. Wink If here, it comes out on the 15th.

3. That was the Skopio creature though, not Telluris. Wink

4. Nice xD

5. Yeah, but he's not a Glatorian anymore, and they never came across any caravan routes, explaining why Gelu's not in the film. Wink Even though he's awesome. And Vastus didn't make it in simply because Gresh is already in the group. Same with Tarix, because Kiina was in the group.

7. Ah, okay.

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« Reply #1585 on: September 08, 2009, 01:16:07 pm »

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As for dead characters I'm in serious doubt they are dead. It's bionicles.
Characters get killed all the time in BIONICLE.

Botar, the 2008 makuta, Matoro, Lhikan, Sidorak... the list is getting long.

True, but I can't see the big guy being dead he's just covered in rocks I'm sure he can burrow since he did pop up form the sand anyway.

I gott'a say he' smuch cooler with his rider laying down. I modified my own to movie match way better than a seated position.


Not a spoiler I'd say but here's the list of characters you don't see in the movie.

Gelu
Skrall
Malum
Zesk
Tarduk in Person (but you do see this bionicle form a plenty as general population)
Atakus in Person (but you do see this bionicle form a plenty as the Skrall)
Crotesius and the Cendox
Scodonius, Kirbaz and the Kaxium
Sahmad and Spikit the Baranus
Fero and Skirmax in Person (but you do see this bionicle form a plenty as the Bone Hunters)
Roxtus (We don't know what Roxtus looks like because he hasn't been created yet. Fero and Skirmax bring him captives we are told.)

So look for them in Bionicle The Creator Unknown (Hahaha)

Then why do we see the Roxtus Arena in the film? And Roxtus isn;t a character... it's a village. The Skrall. The Bone Hunters. It's where they come from.
Why ask a rhetorical question then give the answer too?

Yeah I kind'a of have been shown that.

It's kind of silly the bone hunters and the skrall are all from the same place.
Cause based on the movie plot bone hunters and skrall being from Roxtus really doesn't Work.
I think at one point they are touted as nomads or crazy. Perhaps bone hunters are outcast skrall?

Maybe in the next film we will hear mor eabout the Spherus Magna war to.
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« Reply #1586 on: September 08, 2009, 01:21:38 pm »

The Bone Hunters only look like Atakus because their original design looks too much like a mini-Skrall. They're really not from Roxtus at all, IIRC. And they are nomads.
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« Reply #1587 on: September 08, 2009, 01:23:47 pm »

1. If you live in the UK, it comes out on the 5th... Of October. Wink If here, it comes out on the 15th.

3. That was the Skopio creature though, not Telluris. Wink

4. Nice xD

5. Yeah, but he's not a Glatorian anymore, and they never came across any caravan routes, explaining why Gelu's not in the film. Wink Even though he's awesome. And Vastus didn't make it in simply because Gresh is already in the group. Same with Tarix, because Kiina was in the group.

7. Ah, okay.

8. 'k.

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3. Go back and watch the clip very closely especially the 7th one and do some pausing.
Right as skopios getting ready to fire upon Mata Nui. They show his back red plates open up and you can clearly see telerius laying down with his head shoved in under the head of skopio feet pointed backwards then it swoops around and you see his arms meeting hands holding on to the side of the skopio unit.

That's Tellerius laying down with his head inside skopio that's why his arms look like ears but they are not.

I can capture the pic if you can't see it but I have faith in you.

The skopios not really a beast it's a vehicle. IMHO
The text of the toy even describes it thus.

"the Skopio wanders the wasteland with its creator and pilot, Telluris"

So without Telluris it doesn't move is what this pretty much says.

Why Kiina refers to it like a living creature is probably just poor movie skripting.


5. Well all depends on what you see as the main group I guess. I see the legends being the main group not just the simple glatorians. But I guess they opted to mix em together. They're all glatorians just some have been doing it logner basically. In normal lego world they tend to go form normal to toa ie glatorian to legend. but it's not quite working out that way for this line.

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« Reply #1588 on: September 08, 2009, 01:26:17 pm »

The Bone Hunters only look like Atakus because their original design looks too much like a mini-Skrall. They're really not from Roxtus at all, IIRC. And they are nomads.

That's what I thought.

It must Fero who in some way lives with the Skrall as well. Or perhaps Roxtus is a much larger place than I have in mind and they all come from that patch of land. Only bone hunters don't care about tribal squablling.
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« Reply #1589 on: September 08, 2009, 01:32:02 pm »

3. This page suggests otherwise. Wink I think it's just the fact that it's based off the sets so much, they couldn't take him out fully...

5. But they're both Glatorian. Unlike the Toa comparison. Wink Legends is just the sub-name to differentiate it from the winter sets, probably as a movie Tie in.

*Other post* Bone Hunters are separate from the Skrall, and only teamed up because of the Traitor, whoever he is.

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Okay, I just saw what you mean, but I think that's supposed to be the Skopio's neck...

*At edit* *Points to first link* They ran into the actual creature that Telluris based the Skopio off of. They used parts of Telluris for Creature Skopio because it was easier than making a new design when that could've been what it was.
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« Reply #1590 on: September 08, 2009, 01:43:46 pm »

3. This page suggests otherwise. Wink I think it's just the fact that it's based off the sets so much, they couldn't take him out fully...

5. But they're both Glatorian. Unlike the Toa comparison. Wink Legends is just the sub-name to differentiate it from the winter sets, probably as a movie Tie in.

*Other post* Bone Hunters are separate from the Skrall, and only teamed up because of the Traitor, whoever he is.

Also, please don't double post. Wink

Can't read that page. But why would I trust a wiki from a site that doesn't appear to be owned by Lego to decide if it's an animal or a vehicle?

As I posted above the description from the set itself pretty much dictates it's a vehicle.

"the Skopio wanders the wasteland with its creator and pilot, Telluris"

Now sure lets say he could create a new living entity but then they are stating it needs a pilot. Not a rider, but a pilot.

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*New Edit* It's possible the movie makers did that (stupid if they did) but it is possible. But you'll note that's not just bits and pieces that's all of Telluris in there feet to head to hands.
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« Reply #1591 on: September 08, 2009, 01:46:58 pm »

1. Because that Wiki's the most accurate Bionicle wiki out there? Besides, I'm sure if you don't believe that, there's a quote from Greg about it being a creature somewhere on BZP.

2. But, the set is the vehicle... This isn't.

3. But he based the vehicle off the creature... Not the other way around. Wink
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1. Because that Wiki's the most accurate Bionicle wiki out there? Besides, I'm sure if you don't believe that, there's a quote from Greg about it being a creature somewhere on BZP.

2. But, the set is the vehicle... This isn't.

3. But he based the vehicle off the creature... Not the other way around. Wink

1. It's still a wiki. Let me go edit a wiki to tell you otherwise. };>)

2. Maybe, maybe not. You've got two possibilities here and loads of mistakes either way.

3. I can buy that Telluris created a vehicle from a Skopio. NP
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« Reply #1593 on: September 08, 2009, 02:00:25 pm »

1. And seeing as they only allow factual information confirmed either by Greg or official stuff released... Trust me, they quickly revert stuff that's not when people are on.

2. Yet Greg keeps referring to 'the creature in the movie'. Plus, I just found this quote...

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1) Is Ackar good teacher material?
2) So, Skopio does not appear in the movie, but the creature that inspired it does?
3) So now, do the EL's tell the Glatorian to fight, or does someone else?


1) Depends on what you want to learn about
2) Yes
3) When are you referring to? Now or pre-Shattering?

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« Reply #1594 on: September 08, 2009, 02:11:51 pm »

1. And seeing as they only allow factual information confirmed either by Greg or official stuff released... Trust me, they quickly revert stuff that's not when people are on.

2. Yet Greg keeps referring to 'the creature in the movie'. Plus, I just found this quote...

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2) So, Skopio does not appear in the movie, but the creature that inspired it does?
3) So now, do the EL's tell the Glatorian to fight, or does someone else?


1) Depends on what you want to learn about
2) Yes
3) When are you referring to? Now or pre-Shattering?

Bottom is Greg's answers.

Hahah that's a horribly asked question... I can take it at face value that he means the creature not Telluris.
Yet still that's a baaaaaad question. It should have been  much more specific and direct.

Now I don' thave the comic with me but isn't Telluris drawn on the skopi in the comic as well?

I mean if that's the case Mr Gregs letting them completely ruin the plot continuity.


But now wait wait wait wait.

There's still comething wrong here.

If the Skopio is a beast in the movie.

Shouldn't it's tail be much more akin to say the vorox?
As well being a beast the skopio wouldn't have mehcanical sights in it's brain to target lock a target on to Mata Nui.
The skopio is a native scorpion. I also do not think the native scorpion is equipped with a thornax launcher. It'd have a scorpion like tail instead.

Perhaps the movie is supposed ot be the Beast but they messed that all up in a big bad way....

Oh well suspension of disbelief.

If it is the beast then Skopio XV-1 will show up with Telluris by his side.
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« Reply #1595 on: September 08, 2009, 02:18:09 pm »

1. I found other questions, including one mention where someone asked about it and he said it was the creature.

2. I don't remember, but the comic's meant to advertise the sets, so it probably would have it like that, but IIRC, it was Movie Skopio.

3. What does that mean?

4. The Great Beings altered the Skopio species to be BioMechanical, which that page I linked states. Wink

5. Telluris and Sahmad currently aren't slated to be in the story however, since they're apparently not key to the plot, but that doesn't rule out the Story Serials or so... =/

Also, a topic explaining the difference between Skopio and the Vehicle.

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2. So are giant scorpions this size?
3. Did Telluris ever encounter a living one?
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1) No, it's based off a creature called a Skopio, which appears in the movie
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« Reply #1596 on: September 08, 2009, 02:25:38 pm »

1. I found other questions, including one mention where someone asked about it and he said it was the creature.

2. I don't remember, but the comic's meant to advertise the sets, so it probably would have it like that, but IIRC, it was Movie Skopio.

3. What does that mean?

4. The Great Beings altered the Skopio species to be BioMechanical, which that page I linked states. Wink

5. Telluris and Sahmad currently aren't slated to be in the story however, since they're apparently not key to the plot, but that doesn't rule out the Story Serials or so... =/

Also, a topic explaining the difference between Skopio and the Vehicle.

/EDIT: Found second quote I was talking about.


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1. Was the Skopio XV-1 based off a giant scorpion?
2. So are giant scorpions this size?
3. Did Telluris ever encounter a living one?
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1) No, it's based off a creature called a Skopio, which appears in the movie

Oh well what can you do laziness abounds and continuity is what it is.

Oh wait I know hahaha sand scorpions are carrying around the bodies of dead sand tribe member son their backs form some strange reason.. yeah that's it. hahaha

Skopio and Telluris do look much better with telluris laying down inside him. MAkes way more sense than riding outside  unprotected.
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« Reply #1597 on: September 08, 2009, 02:31:00 pm »

I think it's just artistic license actually. Wink Like the land on Aqua Magna.

Telluris is of the Plagued Tribe though, so Skopios would have to pick them up, but that may be a good theory. I'm betting on artistic license though.

'k, and I see how it would, plus you could easily see that scanner thing Wink
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« Reply #1598 on: September 08, 2009, 03:03:11 pm »

I think it's just artistic license actually. Wink Like the land on Aqua Magna.

Telluris is of the Plagued Tribe though, so Skopios would have to pick them up, but that may be a good theory. I'm betting on artistic license though.

'k, and I see how it would, plus you could easily see that scanner thing Wink

Yeah likely just artistic license to sell toys.

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Basically just lay Telluris out flat.
Remove the blue half posts chalf cross pieces to put in his fists and stick them into that remaining hole by the mandibles on either side of Skopios head. (Not I may have added the blue cross posts for feet attachment don't recall but use two of those if I did)

You can leave the red cross bars in the original hand holding area or remove them as I did and stick under neath instead of on top, then I pushed his shoulder armor onto those red cross posts so his arms stay put and so does his body. Adjust shoudler and forarm joints as needed.

(You could add two full posts in skopios back to lock down Telluris legs as well.)

Remove the rubber hoses and the parts they go into and stick them in the back aromorplate holes near the rotating points.

And that's Skopio Ala Movie.

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« Reply #1599 on: September 08, 2009, 03:07:26 pm »

It does look better. Also, as this doesn't resize posted pics, mind linking them directly? =)
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