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« Reply #420 on: April 04, 2009, 07:19:48 pm »

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No wonder you've been having such difficulty.  Your movesets are far beyond messed up.  You've got two Fire-type attacks on Rapidash, two Water-type attacks on Empoleon, and three Grass-type attacks on Leafeon, with the last being Last Resort, which I highly disagree upon in use.  Your team has great potential, but you're going about it in a very bad manor.  I believe you do all of this based on STAB, but believe me, this is a really bad way to go about raising a team.  Let me give you some advice for these three:  

First off, never use more than one move of a kind of type, at least for attacking purposes.  For example, don't put Brine and Surf on Empoleon.  It's unnecessary.  

Starting with Empoleon, I'd like to point out that you're attempting to use Empoleon for direct attacking purposes.  Unfortunately, Empoleon is really meant more for defending than attacking.  However, if you really want to be serious about battling purposes, then I'll suggest a moveset here.  Here's a good Special Sweeper Empoleon:  

Surf
Ice Beam
Grass Knot
Agility

Agility helps to make up for its lackluster Speed, making it a viable choice for a Special Sweeper.  Surf acts as the main form of STAB, and Ice Beam can take care of pesky Dragon-types (such as Garchomp), as well as Grass-types that might otherwise absorb Surf and Grass Knot for little damage.  Grass Knot is somewhat of a filler, but it helps to deal with heavier opponents, as well as opponents that might otherwise turn Surf and Ice Beam away, namely opposing Water-types.  In my opinion, if you transform your Empoleon into a Special Sweeper, it'll become the main contender against Cynthia's Garchomp.  
'kay, but I don't have the money to get ice beam, nor do I have another grass knot tm... and no steel stab?

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Next up is Rapidash.  The problem with Rapidash is that not only does it lack a wide array of good moves in its movepool, but it also has below average stats.  It has decent Attack and Speed, but that's all it has going for it.  Infernape is a far better choice.  Infernape has better stats overall, and has a far wider movepool than Rapidash.  Nonetheless, I'll make of this what I can:

Flare Blitz
Megahorn
Iron Tail
Return/Double Kick

Flare Blitz is obviously there for a good STAB, but it should be used in extreme moderation, due to Rapidash's horrid HP (HP is its weakest stat).  Megahorn offers a good physical move that can strike down many opponents.  The lack of recoil is good, but it does come at the cost of Accuracy, which is unpreferable.  However, with Megahorn, the benefits outweigh the negatives, and unfortunately, it's the next best thing to work with on Rapidash.  And if we're having to come down to conversation like that, then it's evident that it has a bad movepool.  Iron Tail is there to help take oncoming Rock-types on, but again, that depends on if you can land the attack.  The last move deals with filler.  Return is a decent physical attack, and can help take on Water-types and Flying-types that Rapidash would have difficulty fighting.  Double Kick could further deal with Steel-types and Rock-types, but they've already been dealt with, so I would suggest Return instead.  

In all honesty, as I've been saying time and again, Infernape is a far better choice, but I suppose it's your opinion. :-\  
I'm starting to agree with you about Infernape... I like Rapidash's stomp because of it's flinch inflicting ability, although Fireblast does not work well with it, I agree. Bounce is there as a filler really, so I may try switching that for Megahorn and Fireblast for Iron tail or something...

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Now on to Leafeon:  

Swords Dance
Leaf Blade
Return
X-Scissor/Synthesis

Now, Leafeon has decent Attack and Speed, and has a phenomenal Defense Stat.  However, its other stats are quite lackluster.  Thus, you need to either make Leafeon a Baton Passer (all Eeveelutions act as Baton Passers) or a Swords Dance Sweeper (a Physical Sweeper with Swords Dance to reinforce its Attack).  Because this is an in-game team, I would suggest a Swords Dance Sweeper.  Swords Dance obviously boosts his Attack up to be quite competitive.  Leaf Blade acts as a great STAB move, and has a high CH bonus, as well.  You shouldn't always depend on/hope for the CH to kick in, but when it does, it'll pay off nicely for your Leafeon.  Return, again, acts as a great physical attack that can reach a base power of 108.  The last move acts as filler.  Synthesis can act as decent healing move, while X-Scissor helps to deal with Psychic-types, but more notably against opposing Grass-types.  It's really up to you.  
Leafeon doesn't learn Leaf Blade until lv 71... I really do want that move for it, and I hate Last resort, I only have it as filler and to deal with pkmn that grass is not good against. I need to get rid of Giga drain, and I wish I could put leech seed on it, because that it really a good move. I'll see if I can get swords dance for Leafeon, and maybe use return for another move.

In the end, I think I'll try these movesets unless you think something is really wrong:

Empoleon: Surf, Ice Beam, Flash Cannon, Agility
Rapidash: Megahorn, Flare Blitz, Stomp, Iron Tail
Leafeon: Leafblade, Swords Dance, Return, Giga Impact

It really depends on how much money I can get to afford Ice Beam and Giga Impact...

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I'm just surprised that you would make a mistake like that.  You shouldn't be having a Pokemon with many of their attacks being the same type. :-\  
I guess since I don't do competitive battleing I don't know the movesets for pkmn that well. And I also like to have STAB on my team, but that gets into a discussion from a while ago...

What would you suggest as a moveset for a Weavile?


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