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Title: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on January 19, 2009, 03:12:02 pm
The last one died, so discuss the popular Nintendo series and it's spinoffs here =)

In-Topic Links:
B~T's Guide to EV training (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.msg99091.html#msg99091)
B~T's guide to IVs (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.msg80975.html#msg80975)
B~T's explanation of EV gain (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.msg133684.html#msg133684)

/EDIT: Adding Release Date for the Japanese version of HeartGold and SoulSilver to the calendar.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on January 19, 2009, 03:53:13 pm
I have Pokemon Diamond, and currently, I am trying to complete the Sinnoh Pokedex by actually catching the Pokemon. So far, 113 caught. Eventually, I will complete the National Pokedex, IF I can access Wi-Fi. When I complete my Pokedex, then I will assemble my Wi-Fi Team.

Here is my prototype team:
Rotom[Elecrtric/Ghost]
Hold Item: Undetermined
Nature: Modest/Timid
-Discharge
-Shadow Ball
-Hidden Power(Fighting)
-Will-O-Wisp
Armaldo[Bug/Rock]
Hold Item: Life Orb
Nature: Adamant
-X-Scissor
-Stone Edge
-Earthquake
-Swords Dance
Skarmory[Steel/Flying]
Hold Item: Shed Shell
Nature: Impish
-Drill Peck
-Steel Wing
-Spikes
-Substitute
Roserade[Grass/Poison]
Hold Item: Focus Sash
Nature: Modest/Timid
-Leaf Storm
-Sludge Bomb
-Shadow Ball
-Hidden Power(Fire)
Milotic[Water]
Hold Item: Leftovers
Nature: Bold
-Surf
-Ice Beam
-Mirror Coat
-Recover
Gallade[Psychic/Fighting]
Hold Item: Salac Berry
Nature: Adamant
-Psycho Cut
-Close Combat
-Night Slash
-Thunder Wave

Any suggestions?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on January 19, 2009, 04:00:25 pm
No suggestions at the moment. I might post my team later if I feel like it.

PMD: EoD is AMAZING, btw. ::)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on January 19, 2009, 04:10:09 pm
You have either Diamond or Pearl? I never knew that. You have Wi-Fi?

It is, right? I have EoT ^_^

Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time FC: 5155-6352-9717

Pokemon Diamond FC: 4510-6966-7070 Name: Blade


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on January 19, 2009, 04:12:43 pm
Pearl. Now you do. =P Nope... >_>

I just made it to the Hidden Land. =D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on January 19, 2009, 04:18:09 pm
1. Gaaaah Dangit, you need Wi-Fi, I wanna battle you =P

2. Cool. Now if only you had Wi-Fi so... ... What CAN you do on PMD2's wi-fi? =/


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on January 19, 2009, 04:26:04 pm
1. Graahh... I know... I want to see how fast I could beat you. =P

2. *Shrugs* Beats me. =\


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on January 19, 2009, 04:49:43 pm
1. 2 seconds I bet =P What's you team's stats? Chances are they're all better than mine xP

2. True. I like the email feature, but haven't had a chance to test it out yet.

Rahkshi: Get Platinum. It's gonna be epic, and the upgrades, plus the return of an awesome area/feature... It'll be epic.

Everyone: Anyone notice that a lot of the features in D/P is reminiscent of GSC, yet Platinum reminds you of like Emerald?(like the new time stuff and the Battle Tower for GSC, and a few features I forget for Emerald)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on January 25, 2009, 12:36:33 pm
So, the Regigigas event was revealed?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on January 25, 2009, 01:38:35 pm
I haz all the fancy pokemon at the end of the 'dex, including Shaymin, Darkrai, and Arceus. Although I haven't seen most of the movies after Latios/Latias. Not to mention I haven't really watched the show in forever...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on January 25, 2009, 09:40:24 pm
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@Blade:  Yes, it was.  Serebii and Bulbapedia weren't covering it at the time that I saw it, but after some sleuthing around on SerebiiForums, I found someone who posted a poster of information they found.  It had a bunch of information about the event, and it's WAY to formal to be fake.  It's one of those traditional event Pokemon posters that you always find at a Toys R Us/GameStop. ;) 

@Dudebot:  *Shuns for getting an unreleased Pokemon*

Yeah.  I could get those guys if I ever wanted to, but that takes the fun out of things.  Not to mention that SerebiiForums won't allow widespread trading of Arceus for another year and a half. -_-  I usually choose not to pursue event Pokemon, not because I can't get a hold of them (I have TONS of cloned Milotic, shiny Pikachu, and Master Balls galore; not to mention access to many Manaphys and Darkrais), it's just that I like the thrill of getting a Pokemon through an event for the first time, and it isn't as much fun to get a Pokemon again if I already have it.  Thus, when I play Platinum, I'm going to try and keep its interaction with my Diamond Version as inexistant as possible, so as to create a fun challenge again. :)

Darkrai is now obtainable by trading one from Pokemon Ranger to Pokemon Diamond/Pearl, or by an event.

Speaking of events...

Wahhhh, my mom won't allow me to access these kinds of events T.T, nor do I have Wi-Fi Access... *sniff* :'(


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on January 25, 2009, 11:15:41 pm
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@Dudebot:  *Shuns for getting an unreleased Pokemon*

*Shrugs*

I don't really even use them often at all. Although Darkrai is pwnage. I have a pre-created team that I use 98% of the time. Other than that, I'm usually leveling guys up and aiming for evolutions.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on January 26, 2009, 05:37:00 am
Alamos Darkrai? ???

But yeah, I don't gotz Wi-fi. >_<

Current 'Dex stats: 345 seen, 243 captured. This includes any and all legendaries. I don't think I'm doing half bad. ::)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on January 26, 2009, 04:06:55 pm
I actually wanted to see that movie... >_>


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: lionytai on January 27, 2009, 01:45:38 am
What video game are you talking about? I have gamboy silver pokemon


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on January 27, 2009, 07:05:39 am
The DS ones... Pokemon versions Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum. And the spin-off games like Ranger, Mystery Dungeon, and the others. But this is for talking about ALL things Pokemon.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on January 27, 2009, 07:29:38 am
What video game are you talking about? I have gamboy silver pokemon
I've also got some of the older ones. Just haven't played them in a while. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on January 28, 2009, 08:02:10 pm
Today, I caught a Dratini with perfect Attack IVs. (that's 31 IVs, which is the max)  It has also decent Speed and Hit Point IVs. It is also an Adamant Dratini, or +Attack, -Sp. Atck.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on January 28, 2009, 09:21:48 pm
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Wow.  You have a really good Dratini, BT.  I'm jealous. :)  Keep it.  If you want, I could help you with raising it properly.  Or, if you don't want it, you could give it to me for something valuable. :)  It's up to you.

I fished 6 Dratini and 1 Dragonair. I had to be paralyzed a lot in the process *coughthunderwavecough*. I think I could raise it by myself. Even if I don't want it, don't forget that I do not have access to Wi-Fi. :(


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on January 29, 2009, 08:21:30 pm
I fought the Battle Tower because I wanted a Power Bracer for Dratini, and I fought the Tower Tycoon.

Battle Overview:
TT sends out Rhyperior.
B~T sends out Empoleon.
Empoleon uses Surf.
Critical Hit!
Rhyperior faints.
TT sends out Dragonite.
Empoleon uses Ice Beam.
Dragonite uses Dragon Rush, but misses.
Empoleon uses Ice Beam and Dragonite faints.
TT sends out Milotic.
B~T switches into Roserade.
Milotic uses Hydro Pump but misses.
Roserade uses Growth.
Milotic uses Dragon Pulse.
Roserade uses Growth.
Milotic uses Hypnosis and Roserade falls asleep.
Roserade eventually faints as Milotic uses Dragon Pulse.
B~T sends out Hippowdon.
Sand Stream activates.
Milotic uses Hydro Pump, and Hippowdon faints.
Milotic is buffeted by Sandstorm.
With just one Pokemon left for each side, who will win?
B~T sends out Empoleon.
Milotic uses Hydro Pump.
Empoleon uses Drill Peck for little damage.
Milotic is buffeted by Sandstorm.
Milotic uses Hydro Pump.
Critical Hit!
Empoleon uses Surf.
Milotic is buffeted by Sandstorm.
Milotic uses Hypnosis, and Empoleon falls asleep.
Milotic uses two Hydro Pumps, but Empoleon evades all Hydro Pumps.
After 2 turns, Empoleon wakes up.
Empoleon uses Surf.
Milotic is buffeted by Sandstorm.
Milotic uses Dragon Pulse.
Empoleon uses Surf.
Milotic is buffeted by Sandstorm.
Milotic faints.

I have beat the Tower Tycoon. This was a close battle, but I won in the end. If it weren't for me sending out Hippowdon to activate Sand Stream, I would've lost. So I earned 20 Battle Points and spent them on a Power Bracer for my Dratini.

A suggested moveset would be helpful =).


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on January 30, 2009, 09:46:46 am
Good job BT =) ... Now beat the second round >=D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on February 05, 2009, 12:00:53 pm
Platinum comes out March 22,if not delayed(laughs,snickers).

I fought the Battle Tower because I wanted a Power Bracer for Dratini, and I fought the Tower Tycoon.

Battle Overview:
TT sends out Rhyperior.
B~T sends out Empoleon.
Empoleon uses Surf.
Critical Hit!
Rhyperior faints.
TT sends out Dragonite.
Empoleon uses Ice Beam.
Dragonite uses Dragon Rush, but misses.
Empoleon uses Ice Beam and Dragonite faints.
TT sends out Milotic.
B~T switches into Roserade.
Milotic uses Hydro Pump but misses.
Roserade uses Growth.
Milotic uses Dragon Pulse.
Roserade uses Growth.
Milotic uses Hypnosis and Roserade falls asleep.
Roserade eventually faints as Milotic uses Dragon Pulse.
B~T sends out Hippowdon.
Sand Stream activates.
Milotic uses Hydro Pump, and Hippowdon faints.
Milotic is buffeted by Sandstorm.
With just one Pokemon left for each side, who will win?
B~T sends out Empoleon.
Milotic uses Hydro Pump.
Empoleon uses Drill Peck for little damage.
Milotic is buffeted by Sandstorm.
Milotic uses Hydro Pump.
Critical Hit!
Empoleon uses Surf.
Milotic is buffeted by Sandstorm.
Milotic uses Hypnosis, and Empoleon falls asleep.
Milotic uses two Hydro Pumps, but Empoleon evades all Hydro Pumps.
After 2 turns, Empoleon wakes up.
Empoleon uses Surf.
Milotic is buffeted by Sandstorm.
Milotic uses Dragon Pulse.
Empoleon uses Surf.
Milotic is buffeted by Sandstorm.
Milotic faints.

I have beat the Tower Tycoon. This was a close battle, but I won in the end. If it weren't for me sending out Hippowdon to activate Sand Stream, I would've lost. So I earned 20 Battle Points and spent them on a Power Bracer for my Dratini.

A suggested moveset would be helpful =).
You,you beat him?!? I got clobbered.I haven't played in a while and I new game alot,but I will probably play a lot lately so I can transfer to Platinum.I have an action replay,so that helps now and then,and i will get Shaymin easy ;D.

I have no wi-fi,our security is the wrong kind,though i get it on the wii.I use guidebooks to find teams with strategic type advantages.

I have Pokemon Diamond, and currently, I am trying to complete the Sinnoh Pokedex by actually catching the Pokemon. So far, 113 caught. Eventually, I will complete the National Pokedex, IF I can access Wi-Fi. When I complete my Pokedex, then I will assemble my Wi-Fi Team.

Here is my prototype team:
Rotom[Elecrtric/Ghost]
Hold Item: Undetermined
Nature: Modest/Timid
-Discharge
-Shadow Ball
-Hidden Power(Fighting)
-Will-O-Wisp
Armaldo[Bug/Rock]
Hold Item: Life Orb
Nature: Adamant
-X-Scissor
-Stone Edge
-Earthquake
-Swords Dance
Skarmory[Steel/Flying]
Hold Item: Shed Shell
Nature: Impish
-Drill Peck
-Steel Wing
-Spikes
-Substitute
Roserade[Grass/Poison]
Hold Item: Focus Sash
Nature: Modest/Timid
-Leaf Storm
-Sludge Bomb
-Shadow Ball
-Hidden Power(Fire)
Milotic[Water]
Hold Item: Leftovers
Nature: Bold
-Surf
-Ice Beam
-Mirror Coat
-Recover
Gallade[Psychic/Fighting]
Hold Item: Salac Berry
Nature: Adamant
-Psycho Cut
-Close Combat
-Night Slash
-Thunder Wave

Any suggestions?
Well,roserade is weak to psychic,so you may want to teach a bug move for countering,if it will learn any.Also,I believe milotic can learn Earthquake,and would outspeed most electric types,giving you only one weakness.

BTW,impressive team.one time I went fishing in the cave and the first thing i got was feebas,but after knowing about it for 5+ years.You are one heck of a trainer with that team.

/EDIT: Please don't double post... -- Blade

Blade, how'd you miss the triple-post?
Anyway, don't do that... Its not cool... -Dudebot5000-


///EDIT: ... Triple post? What triple post? -- Blade


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on February 05, 2009, 03:35:44 pm
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I have Pokemon Diamond, and currently, I am trying to complete the Sinnoh Pokedex by actually catching the Pokemon. So far, 113 caught. Eventually, I will complete the National Pokedex, IF I can access Wi-Fi. When I complete my Pokedex, then I will assemble my Wi-Fi Team.

Here is my prototype team:
Rotom[Elecrtric/Ghost]
Hold Item: Undetermined
Nature: Modest/Timid
-Discharge
-Shadow Ball
-Hidden Power(Fighting)
-Will-O-Wisp
Armaldo[Bug/Rock]
Hold Item: Life Orb
Nature: Adamant
-X-Scissor
-Stone Edge
-Earthquake
-Swords Dance
Skarmory[Steel/Flying]
Hold Item: Shed Shell
Nature: Impish
-Drill Peck
-Steel Wing
-Spikes
-Substitute
Roserade[Grass/Poison]
Hold Item: Focus Sash
Nature: Modest/Timid
-Leaf Storm
-Sludge Bomb
-Shadow Ball
-Hidden Power(Fire)
Milotic[Water]
Hold Item: Leftovers
Nature: Bold
-Surf
-Ice Beam
-Mirror Coat
-Recover
Gallade[Psychic/Fighting]
Hold Item: Salac Berry
Nature: Adamant
-Psycho Cut
-Close Combat
-Night Slash
-Thunder Wave

Any suggestions?
Well,roserade is weak to psychic,so you may want to teach a bug move for countering,if it will learn any.Also,I believe milotic can learn Earthquake,and would outspeed most electric types,giving you only one weakness.

BTW,impressive team.one time I went fishing in the cave and the first thing i got was feebas,but after knowing about it for 5+ years.You are one heck of a trainer with that team.

/EDIT: Please don't double post... -- Blade

Blade, how'd you miss the triple-post?
Anyway, don't do that... Its not cool... -Dudebot5000-



///EDIT: ... Triple post? What triple post? -- Blade

Milotic CAN'T learn Earthquake. Besides, it's as Special Sweeper, and Earthquake is Physical. Combined with the fact that Milotic has a Base Attack of 60, it would fit better on Gyrados. ;)

Roserade's Shadow Ball is a Ghost Type attack, and Ghost is advantageous against Psychic Types, so it would be fine on Roserade. ;)



Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on February 09, 2009, 03:49:58 am
*Has Preordered Plat.*


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on February 09, 2009, 08:30:32 am
I am going to miss thr movie on Cartoon Network cuz I am traveling. :-[


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: lionytai on February 09, 2009, 10:52:35 pm
how do you get mew in pokemon gameboy silver?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: lionytai on February 09, 2009, 11:32:38 pm
then where to catch jiggly puff?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on February 10, 2009, 03:47:47 pm
In D/P, Jigglypuff is found on the Trophy Garden after receiving the Nat. Dex. Talk to Mr. Backlot and wait until he mentions a Jigglypuff.

I do not own the old Pokemon Games, so I have no clue on how to find Jigglypuff.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on February 10, 2009, 03:57:08 pm
*Looks on Serebii* Oh hey, he was right. xP

Jigglypuff: G/S: Routes 4/5, Crystal: Routes 5, 6, 7, 8, 34, 35. Rarity: Few.

Source: Serebii.net


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on February 11, 2009, 06:58:36 am
What do you mean by left?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on February 13, 2009, 07:36:09 am
Man... That's brutal >_> And deleting the rules topics didn't exactly help the rule breaking problems I bet >_>


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on February 13, 2009, 06:04:59 pm
I agree. Rather childish.

*Changes discussion*

Just finished The Rise of Darkrai. Good movie. Main thing I wanted to mention was I just started watching Pokemon Movie 11: Giratina & the Sky’s Bouquet Shaymin. In Japanese. Language is no different for me, but the names struck me as interesting.

Ash = Satoshi
Dawn = Hikari
Brock = Takeshi

Piplup = Pochama

And that's all the ones I noticed in the first 17 minutes. Well, that and Shaymin acts like a spoiled brat. =P

But still, it's interesting.

http://www.animecrazy.net/pokemon-movie-11-giratina-the-skys-bouquet-shaymin/
^Link, BTW.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: 0PureChaos0 on February 13, 2009, 07:02:21 pm
Actually it is Giratina and the Sky Warrior.
Anyway, did you guy's know that if you have Diamond or Pearl, you can get Shaymin from Toys R Us with mystery gift?
Event ends today.

EDIT: I don't know. Pokemon.com Said that it is Giratina And the Sky Warrior...
Yea, But did you know that Zero was actually in another pokemon movie looong before this one? (i think)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on February 13, 2009, 07:05:41 pm
Did you even bother to click the link? =P

Origin Form Giratina is pure WIN. There are references to TRoD, and there's two legendaries that make guest appearances. =O


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on February 14, 2009, 09:19:22 am
Sky Bouquet's Shaymin is the translated Japanese title ;)

*Should watch later* And the Japanese names of the Pokemon are pretty good, and has anyone noticed that Dawn's name is the same as one of the evo stones in the D/P/P series? =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on February 14, 2009, 12:28:45 pm
Dunno 'bout that. But I found it rather ironic that the American pokemon people gave Dawn an appropriate name. =P

Dawn = Hikari
Hikari = Light
Dawn = Light

Ironic, don't you think?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on February 14, 2009, 12:48:32 pm
Yeah, or just got lucky ::)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on February 14, 2009, 12:57:42 pm
That's more likely. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on February 15, 2009, 09:34:21 am
Johto Starters... YES. =D

And if you can't get it for me, I don't really mind that much I guess...

Erureido -- Gallade

=P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on February 15, 2009, 11:30:28 am
Johto Starters... YES. =D

And if you can't get it for me, I don't really mind that much I guess...

Erureido -- Gallade

=P

Naetoru - Turtwig
Mukubird - Staravia
Mukuhawk? - Staraptor

Gallade is one of my favorite Pokemon, even though it isn't OU. If I can get a good Gallade, I'll name it after the Blade in this forum, because Gallade has "blades" and Neo's nickname is Blade. 


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on February 15, 2009, 11:35:39 am
Johto Starters... YES. =D

And if you can't get it for me, I don't really mind that much I guess...

Erureido -- Gallade

=P

Naetoru - Turtwig
Mukubird - Staravia
Mukuhawk? - Staraptor

Gallade is one of my favorite Pokemon, even though it isn't OU. If I can get a good Gallade, I'll name it after the Blade in this forum, because Gallade has "blades" and Neo's nickname is Blade. 
=P Same here, if I can ever actually get a good Gallade, I'm nicknaming it Blademan =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on February 15, 2009, 12:55:15 pm
Would you like me to suggest a moveset for it?

I'll nickname my future Gallade "KazeHikari".

But first, I'm capturing Ralts in Diamond because it has the ability Synchronize, and its outside effect really helps in getting good-natured Pokemon. I use a Parasect with Spore (100% accuracy, makes Pokemon sleep) and False Swipe (Reduces the Pokemon to 1 HP). I highly recommend Ralts because:
~ It is easy to capture with a capture rate of 235
~ It is easy to tell if Ralts has Synchronize, because some Ralts have Trace, which will be revealed at the start of the battle
~ If caught at Route 203, there is a chance you will meet Abra, which have Synchronize as well.

I have an Adamant, Calm, Impish, and Jolly Ralts so far.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on February 15, 2009, 01:31:02 pm
Sure, if you want you could suggest a moveset =)

Where should I put the EVs?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on February 15, 2009, 02:44:26 pm
Are you sure that Gallade knows Cross Chop, because according to Serebii, it can't learn Cross Chop.

I check Smogon for the Pokemon Tiers, but it is really messed up. Where do you check?

My other favorite pokemon are Rotom (the heat form), Armaldo (Yeah, it's UU I believe), Milotic (OU, or BL), Roserade(OU, or BL), and Skarmory(OU).


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on February 15, 2009, 02:54:45 pm
*Gulps at the size of his post* Now I know why you went offline there for a sec =P That actually looks somewhat like one of the movesets I was thinking up, it covers a lot of types.

Gallade's your fav Pokemon too? =P

Ok then. But I guess it's okay if you can't... *Knows that Canada won't get the event because it's never happened to date* =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on February 15, 2009, 03:14:26 pm
*Wants Platinum even more now* I guess Close Combat would work for most though...

Cool. =)

Yeah... *Shrugs* At least I have ways of getting it eventually... =/


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on February 15, 2009, 04:52:55 pm
Gallade happens to be one of my faves too. Strangely mine already has that movelist. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on February 15, 2009, 05:22:31 pm
Yeah... I never really bother to go too far in depth with stats and whatnot. I tend to go with powerful moves with glances at the stats. Which is why I'll probably get beaten down by you guys. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on February 15, 2009, 06:03:33 pm
I'm currently putting together a LV 50 team. Although I may want to change in a different one for Palkia in my LV 100 team.

What's better: Empoleon or Swampert? :-\


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on February 15, 2009, 06:17:02 pm
I'm currently putting together a LV 50 team. Although I may want to change in a different one for Palkia in my LV 100 team.

What's better: Empoleon or Swampert? :-\

Swampert
HP-100
Atk-110
Def-90
SpA-85
SpD-90
Speed-60

Empoleon
HP-84
Atk-86
Def-88
SpA-111
SpD-101
Speed-60

Both Pokemon are pretty slow. If you want a Special Sweeper/Wall, choose Empoleon. If you want a Physical Sweeper/Wall, go with Swampert. Both have pretty good typing.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on February 15, 2009, 07:05:18 pm
Empoleon, you say? I'd agree.

Now I just need one more to fill my LV 50 team... Which looks like:

Blaziken
Empoleon
Sceptile
Sableye
Salamence
*Blank*

Suggestions?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on February 15, 2009, 07:12:02 pm
Gallade =P It'd still be good around that level...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on February 15, 2009, 07:15:29 pm
Gallade's in my 80 team. I have a LV 100, LV 80, and LV 50. =P

Besides, I already have fighting style covered. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on February 15, 2009, 07:59:42 pm
Don't have Electivire... >_>

I does have a Happiny/Chansey, though... I'll see what I can do with that.

LV 100 Team:

Infernape
Palkia*
Aggron
Luxray
Staraptor
Roserade

*Looking for another option


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on February 15, 2009, 08:15:43 pm
Don't have Electivire... >_>

I does have a Happiny/Chansey, though... I'll see what I can do with that.

LV 100 Team:

Infernape
Palkia*
Aggron
Luxray
Staraptor
Roserade

*Looking for another option

To replace Palkia, which is a Water/Dragon, try Kingdra for a change. Empoleon is the only Pokemon that can resist both its STABs.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on February 15, 2009, 08:29:05 pm
Don't have a Dragon Scale, though... >_>

Any other ideas?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on February 15, 2009, 09:18:30 pm
...Then I swap out my Staraptor for another one due to the double-normal, should I add in Blissey...

*Scratches head*

*Tries Wi-Fi*

*Fails Epicly*

I'd have to go to McDonalds or something for Wi-Fi. ::)

I'll work on these things.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: lionytai on February 16, 2009, 03:12:40 am
do you win mast3er balls in lucky number ID in pokemon gaemboy gold/silver?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on February 16, 2009, 12:15:42 pm
do you win mast3er balls in lucky number ID in pokemon gaemboy gold/silver?

That's Diamond/Pearl/Platinum, I think. All 5 digits of your ID have to match, which is pretty rare.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on February 16, 2009, 09:20:19 pm
I've got, like, over 900.

*Hides Action Replay*


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on February 17, 2009, 07:30:09 am
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I've got, like, over 900.

*Hides Action Replay*
Ugh.  I don't like people who like Action Replays. :( 

I stick to cloning, myself.  Although I could have that many if I wanted to (and if I had the time). ;D
It could be good if you didn't have anyone who plays near you, no way to get events or stuff, and just stuck to stuff like events or such... Though, I'm anti-AR in DS cases, mostly because I had a run-in with an ARer on MKDS that hacked up one of the inaccessible Battle stages and sent me through a wall >_>


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on February 17, 2009, 07:06:17 pm
Platinum is Mar.22.saw a TV spot.Hope i can pre-order,that gigranta thing looks coll.

Also,I found on paper a team that is advatageous to every type:Infernape,Gigranta,Gastradon,Luxray,Mr. Mime,Staraptor.i hope to geet it in Plat.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on February 17, 2009, 08:23:10 pm
*Makes note about Mar. 22*

I had preordered it, but I didn't remember the release date. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on February 17, 2009, 08:23:56 pm
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Platinum is Mar.22.saw a TV spot.Hope i can pre-order,that gigranta thing looks coll.

Also,I found on paper a team that is advatageous to every type:Infernape,Gigranta,Gastradon,Luxray,Mr. Mime,Staraptor.i hope to geet it in Plat.
Perhaps it can cover every type, but more than half of those guys aren't meant to be at a truly competitive level.  Thus, it's not exactly threatening. ;) 

Also, the news has been out for awhile. ;) 

Do you have Wi-Fi?  If so, are you up for a three on three battle, in the OU Tier? 
They can totally compete.If you're so tough,come battle me!

I would accept your challenge but:
#1-I plan to not play until game is released.
#2-I am at the start of the gam after new gaming,although i could beat it pretty quick,I have been playing for like 6 years.
#3-I don't have the right computer security.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on February 18, 2009, 07:24:42 am
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Platinum is Mar.22.saw a TV spot.Hope i can pre-order,that gigranta thing looks coll.

Also,I found on paper a team that is advatageous to every type:Infernape,Gigranta,Gastradon,Luxray,Mr. Mime,Staraptor.i hope to geet it in Plat.
Perhaps it can cover every type, but more than half of those guys aren't meant to be at a truly competitive level.  Thus, it's not exactly threatening. ;) 

Also, the news has been out for awhile. ;) 

Do you have Wi-Fi?  If so, are you up for a three on three battle, in the OU Tier? 
They can totally compete.If you're so tough,come battle me!

I would accept your challenge but:
#1-I plan to not play until game is released.
#2-I am at the start of the gam after new gaming,although i could beat it pretty quick,I have been playing for like 6 years.
#3-I don't have the right computer security.
They can compete, but there are better choices, as he could tell you. And what EVs would you put in each stat? What moves would you get? Do you factor in STAB? ;) 3 Pokemon theoretically could cover the types those do with different moves ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on February 18, 2009, 10:41:50 am
Never heard of EV or STAB-probably an acronym i guess.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on February 18, 2009, 12:05:26 pm
EV: Effort Value
STAB: Same Type Attack Bonus.

If you don't know even those, well, let's say you'll want to read up on those before you go into the competitive circuit.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on February 18, 2009, 02:33:15 pm
^Primarily the reason why I'll get my butt handed to me. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on February 18, 2009, 03:34:43 pm
EV: Effort Value
STAB: Same Type Attack Bonus.

If you don't know even those, well, let's say you'll want to read up on those before you go into the competitive circuit.
Dude,i have like 10 guidebooks,if it was in there i would know.i just don't do tournements.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on February 18, 2009, 03:42:50 pm
Never heard of EV or STAB-probably an acronym i guess.


Do you know what IVs are? If you don't, you'll never be a successful battler.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on February 18, 2009, 03:44:43 pm
EV: Effort Value
STAB: Same Type Attack Bonus.

If you don't know even those, well, let's say you'll want to read up on those before you go into the competitive circuit.
Dude,i have like 10 guidebooks,if it was in there i would know.i just don't do tournements.
I doubt they'd be in guidebooks ;) Look at online stuff for stuff like this, since it's hidden from the players.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on February 18, 2009, 03:46:16 pm
Never heard of EV or STAB-probably an acronym i guess.


Do you know what IVs are? If you don't, you'll never be a successful battler.
Ummmmmmmmm......Interest value?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on February 18, 2009, 04:57:51 pm
Never heard of EV or STAB-probably an acronym i guess.


Do you know what IVs are? If you don't, you'll never be a successful battler.
Ummmmmmmmm......Interest value?

*buzz* IVs stans for Individual Values. They are values which affect all the Pokemon's stats. The more IVs, the more powerful the stat. IVs range from 0-31. If I want a powerful Alakazam, I want it to have 31 IVs on SpAttack or Speed (best ones are Timid and Modest), a nature that increases Sp.Attack or Speed, and 252 EVs in both stats. On serebii.net (CLICK) (http://www.serebii.net), there is an IV calculator for Pokemon.

And did you know that a Pokemon's nature determines which stat grows better and which stat is worser? If so, give 3 examples of natures and list which stat it benefits and which stats it hinders. Like Blade said, these important skills in battling don't come in Guidebooks. They may hint it out, but not reveal it.

=:EDIT- Did I forget to mention that I caught a Modest Abra? It came with Synchronize as well! But I haven't determined its IVs. ;D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on February 18, 2009, 08:31:28 pm
I learned that in Bulbapedia a bit ago,actually.I looked up evrything on Bulbapedia,and i was pretty impressed by the whole concept.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on February 21, 2009, 01:05:31 pm
Pokemon Catch of the Day:

A Timid Staryu with PERFECT 31 IVs on Speed, along with the Ability Natural Cure.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on February 21, 2009, 01:23:17 pm
Nice.

I took the low road  and used my AR to get a Shaymin,to trade to platinum with my friend's DS.

If i didn't have him,i would have no one to trade with.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on February 21, 2009, 01:51:10 pm
Nice.

I took the low road  and used my AR to get a Shaymin,to trade to platinum with my friend's DS.

If i didn't have him,i would have no one to trade with.
Unfortunately, only certain Shaymin have the ability to activate the special effect of the special item in Platinum... =/ At least; from what I've heard.

Oh yes, what's the status on the Shaymins?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on February 21, 2009, 03:35:10 pm
Ah, ok... It would be nice to have a Shaymin, but I guess it's not needed if it can't be obtained...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on February 21, 2009, 03:36:41 pm
i will play you when i geet Plat.

I can't find wi-fi,so i am gonna try nintendowifi.com.

I swear to you,i will beat you!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on February 21, 2009, 05:41:35 pm
To things.

my dad won't change security type for me to battle you :'(,and i rarely USE the AR,i used to,but not anymore.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on February 23, 2009, 11:41:18 am
I think he means from something like WPA to WEP...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on February 23, 2009, 05:07:10 pm
Exactly. He doesn't want anything below WPA-ASP or something like that.

I saw a thing on the nintendo channel for a new DS,and it could browse the internet. Maybe i can convince him i will stop using our only computer and that instead. It isn't over 'till he sends me to my room.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on February 24, 2009, 09:03:59 am
I don't have the internet channel. But i will try,i am desperate. Even if it stinks,it IS the internet.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on February 24, 2009, 03:58:48 pm
*Coughs*

Anyone mind explaining/referencing the whole EV/IV/whateverelsethereistolookforinapokemon thing for me? The only part that I get is that high stats = good thing. ::)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on February 24, 2009, 04:35:56 pm
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Yeah, but...I wouldn't even call it the internet.  Trust me.  From what I've read, the Nintendo DSi's internet capabilities compare to those of the Nintendo Wii. 

And the Wii's abilities are TERRIBLE. 

There are many times when I've been tempted to throw my Wii.  Again, good luck, but I honestly don't think you'll have a lot of enjoyment with it.  Some, perhaps, but not a whole lot, or at least as much as you could as if you were on a computer. ;)
Again,i am desperate. I don't care if it has quality from the 80's. I NEED my internet pokemon!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on February 24, 2009, 08:01:15 pm
I hate to squash your post,but i looked that up already. Heh,heh.

Although you did give a better explanation.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on February 24, 2009, 08:14:59 pm
yeah,it probably was better.

And it did help me,too.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on February 24, 2009, 08:55:54 pm
IVs are the set genes of a Pokemon. They are based off the binary code system, as I found on Bulbapedia. Unlike EVs, there is no way to alter IVs, as they are already determined. Like EVs, they affect HP, Attack, Defense, Sp. Attack, Sp. Defense, and Speed, and also improve the Pokemon's stats. The maximum amount of IVs a Pokemon can get in one stat is 31. There is a 1/32 chance that a Pokemon can get a perfect 31 IVs in any stat. A Pokemon can also get 0 IVs. 0 IVs on Speed is usually best for Gyro Ball Users, such as Bronzong and Forretress, as Gyro Ball is based off the difference between the Pokemons' speed.
     Here is the difference between a Physical Lucario's Attack IVs:
          ~Adamant Lucario w/ 252 Attack EVs and 0 IVs - 316
          ~Adamant Lucario w/ 252 Attack EVs and 31 IVs - 350
You see, IVs can make a huge difference in a Pokemon's stats. I have a Dragonair w/ 30 or 31 Attack IVs and a PERFECT 31 IVs on Speed, along with decent HP IVs.
To tell if a Pokemon has 31 IVs in a stat, check on the Trainer Memo for something that says
          =Alert to Sounds
          =Proud of its Power
          =etc.
Here is a chart that tells you how to determine if a Pokemon has perfect 31 IVs

CharacteristicHighest IVLast Digit of IV
Often dozes offHP1 or 6
Often scatters thingsHP2 or 7
Scatters things oftenHP3 or 8
Likes to relaxHP4 or 9
Loves to eatHP5 or 0
Likes to thrash aboutAttack1 or 6
A little quick temperedAttack2 or 7
Likes to fightAttack3 or 8
Quick temperedAttack4 or 9
Proud of its powerAttack5 or 0
Capable of taking hitsDefense1 or 6
Highly persistentDefense2 or 7
Good enduranceDefense3 or 8
Good perseveranceDefense4 or 9
Sturdy bodyDefense5 or 0
MischievousSp. Attack1 or 6
Thoroughly cunningSp. Attack2 or 7
Often lost in thoughtSp. Attack3 or 8
Very finickySp. Attack4 or 9
Highly CuriousSp. Attack5 or 0
Somewhat vainSp. Defense1 or 6
Strongly defiantSp. Defense2 or 7
Hates to loseSp. Defense3 or 8
Somewhat stubbornSp. Defense4 or 9
Strong willedSp. Defense5 or 0
Alert to soundsSpeed1 or 6
Impetuous and sillySpeed2 or 7
Somewhat of a clownSpeed3 or 8
Quick to fleeSpeed4 or 9
Likes to runSpeed5 or 0

I hope you learned something or two about IVs. :)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on February 24, 2009, 09:56:07 pm
Thank you, BT. That explains a lot about a bunch of things. :)

Just one thing: how can you tell what IVs a Pokemon has?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on February 25, 2009, 07:46:54 am
I finally got to the end of the post-story of PMD: EoT, and while it lasted longer than I expected, it would've been nice if they had've tied in some of the other legends like in Red/Blue. Ah well, it was a somewhat nice post story ending, even if it's ending was kinda abrupt. Ah well, now I just have to wait for EotS to replay it =P

... Anyone happen to know the wondermail to get another Viridian bow? I kinda lost mine when I died one time, I think it was against Grovyle during the story. That was annoying when that happened >_>


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on February 25, 2009, 10:57:38 am
Anyone played their rival in Hoegn(i didn't spell that right) and couldn't win on the road to Mauville? I lost like 50 times,and my pokemon got in the 30s. I didn't care about types then like i do now.

I haven't played pokemon for a while,and i can't wait for platinum. I am jitttery from pokemon withdrawl. I typed this in like 15 seconds.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on February 25, 2009, 03:37:27 pm
I finally got to the end of the post-story of PMD: EoT, and while it lasted longer than I expected, it would've been nice if they had've tied in some of the other legends like in Red/Blue. Ah well, it was a somewhat nice post story ending, even if it's ending was kinda abrupt. Ah well, now I just have to wait for EotS to replay it =P
I'm still trying to beat Dialga. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on February 25, 2009, 03:40:55 pm
Do you have a master ball? You should just catch him.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on February 25, 2009, 03:53:08 pm
This is Pokemon Mystery Dungeon. There are no Master Balls. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on February 25, 2009, 03:54:13 pm
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.......... ...

Good luck with that. He is pretty tough.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on February 25, 2009, 07:24:27 pm
I like the sequels better than the original. They're way more organised. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on February 25, 2009, 08:04:16 pm
The newer PMDs have pretty good plots.

Have you noticed Pokemon is just the same thing(battleing)over and over again,but it is still so fun? There is catching Pokemon,but still............

I am hoping Plat's Battle Frontier is as good as the original. The only ones i got close to in the first were Tucker(Dome Ace) and Lucy(Pike Queen). I was in a tournament with Tucker and battled Lucy several times,my team was all weak to her Milotic(types weren't my thing then,i took a pokemon if it was big and had high attack).


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on February 25, 2009, 09:16:59 pm
I know! The games are so repetitive, and yet I'm amazed with them every time. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on February 26, 2009, 10:55:19 am
Glad I'm not alone.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on February 26, 2009, 01:14:50 pm
Same here, but then again, it may also because I want to restart my games all the time, so when I get to go through the games again without having to delete my old save, I'm excited. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on February 26, 2009, 01:21:15 pm
Me too. I new gamed in Emerald when i had 450+hours logged,and over 200 pokemon. I slapped myself for days when i learned about pal park. I had a lv. 100 Rayquaza!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on February 26, 2009, 01:32:39 pm
Me too. I new gamed in Emerald when i had 450+hours logged,and over 200 pokemon. I slapped myself for days when i learned about pal park. I had a lv. 100 Rayquaza!
I did that with Sapphire, except it wasn't as bad. I'm not exactly sure what I was thinking, because I'm pretty sure I knew about the Pal Park >_>

Oh yes, anyone happen to have a Latios? Long story >_> Yes I've got Emerald and chose Latios and caught it >_>


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on February 26, 2009, 01:48:50 pm
from ages 4-7,my life revolved around catching Latias,which i have never done,in Ruby. So no,i do not. Thanks for bringing up my most BITTER memory.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on February 26, 2009, 03:44:07 pm
I chose a Latios in Emerald. I try to capture it the hard way.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on February 26, 2009, 04:29:15 pm
Guh... I need a Latios... I accidentally kinda... erased my old one. Long story again, but let's just say it had to do with forgetting instructions and attempting a cloning session when away from a computer... =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on February 26, 2009, 04:37:46 pm
cloning session..............Oh. you mean you tried to hack another one?



Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on February 26, 2009, 05:01:15 pm
Catch of the day: An ADAMANT Cubone w/ 29 IVs on Attack with a STINKY Ability; LightningRod.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on February 26, 2009, 05:12:36 pm
... Cloning =/= hacking. I was trying to use Emerald's cloning glitch, and must've messed up the process, because when I turned it back on after showing a friend, I had no cloned Pokemon, and my original was gone >_<


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on February 26, 2009, 05:59:07 pm
What is the cloning glitch?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on February 26, 2009, 06:08:17 pm
You do something or other with one of the trading things, and you get a clone of one of your Pokemon. Methinks. ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on February 26, 2009, 07:29:58 pm
Battle tower wireless thing... It's been a while, but I think I still have the entry that I saved a few years ago on my comp... I think I saved it when I changed comps.. I hope...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on February 27, 2009, 09:13:10 am
Anyone know about glitch city?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on February 27, 2009, 02:54:06 pm
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You could have just asked me in a PM, Blade. ::)  I can send you a Latios over Wi-Fi, but I'll need you to send it back afterwards.  It's just that I only have one of him, and I don't want to have to bother in getting another one, unless you wanted one for keeps.
That's kinda what I wanted though... Meh, I don't care, I was planning on going through Emerald again aft- ... Hey, did you say you had Milotics?

Anyone know about glitch city?
If you go there, don't save, and make sure you have a fly-knowing Pokemon. Oh, and be careful while in it, because you could freeze your game or get stuck. I do know how to get in, but I forget...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on February 27, 2009, 04:32:23 pm
I need one, and the Feebas don't want to evolve >_> I think that and maybe one other Pokemon is needed to be evolved or something before I can upload it to Diamond.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on February 27, 2009, 06:45:54 pm
I need one, and the Feebas don't want to evolve >_> I think that and maybe one other Pokemon is needed to be evolved or something before I can upload it to Diamond.

To evolve Feebas, feed it the VERY BEST Poffins that increase Beauty. It needs to get to at leas 170/255 Sheen I think. Then, level it up. If the Feebas is full, there is no way to gain more Beauty and you'll need another Feebas. Make ure that the Feebas ISN'T:
-Adamant
-Impish
-Careful
-Jolly
These natures above hinder the Beauty stat, along with your Feebas not liking them.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on February 27, 2009, 07:02:35 pm
Emerald, not Diamond =P I'm VERY bad at poffin making.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on February 27, 2009, 07:07:52 pm
Speaking of which, I just remembered that I wanted to look up some AR stuff for poffins... ::)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on February 27, 2009, 07:42:50 pm
Emerald, not Diamond =P I'm VERY bad at poffin making.

Just replace "Poffins" with Pokeblocks. The higher the level, and the lower he sheen, the better it is. I personally think that Pokeblocks are harder that Poffins. All in all, it's pretty much the same thing.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on February 27, 2009, 08:17:12 pm
You sure know a lot aout pokemon,blackterror.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on February 28, 2009, 10:26:53 am
Emerald, not Diamond =P I'm VERY bad at poffin making.

Just replace "Poffins" with Pokeblocks. The higher the level, and the lower he sheen, the better it is. I personally think that Pokeblocks are harder that Poffins. All in all, it's pretty much the same thing.
Funny, I find them easier =P And yeah, but everything I seem to try doesn't give enough... =/


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on February 28, 2009, 12:31:55 pm
i went fishing once on the slim hope i could catch a Feebas. it had eluded me for 4 years(this is in Diamond). The FIRST Pokemon i get is a Feebas,and the next,and the next. I new gamed,but if i had internet acess and the GTS......people would give a lot for something as strong and rare as Milotic.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on February 28, 2009, 03:20:57 pm
Welcome to B~T's Catch of the Day!

Today, B~T caught a TIMID Porygon with PERFECT 31 IVs on Speed, along with an approximate estimate of 28 Sp. Attack IVs.

Thank you for watching.

@Omega Blademan - Here are some tips on how to make good Pokeblocks.
~ If you can, use Wiki Berries. They are only available if your ID ends with a 6. If you can't use Kelpsy berries instead.
~ Use Blue, or Indigo Pokeblocks to feed Feebas to increase its beauty.
~ Use Pokeblocks with the highest levels.
~ Use Pokeblocks with a smaller sheen. 
~ Check the TV. If you see that Berry Master come to Lilycove, make Pokeblocks there. Don't use Pamtre berries, as it will result in a bad Pokeblock and is the Master's Berry choice if you use "Dry" Berries. The "Pokeblock Master" has 100% accuracy and if you are good enough, you will have Pokeblocks in the high 50s. That means that it only needs around 4 feedings until it can evolve by leveling up.
~ Make sure your Feebas isn't Adamant, Impish, Careful, or Jolly, as these nature detest Blue/Indigo Pokeblocks.

I hope these tips help you evolve your Feebas.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on February 28, 2009, 03:49:50 pm
How about on D/P/P?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on February 28, 2009, 03:54:37 pm
everyone is changing there name!

Please let Plat. Come out early.....I am losing it.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on February 28, 2009, 11:57:22 pm
...Wait. You have "legally" completed the Pokedex? :o


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 01, 2009, 09:29:38 am
All except I think Arceus, correct? Or are you still missing some event Pokemon?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on March 01, 2009, 04:50:32 pm
Today, I caught every Unown, including the ! and ? ones.



Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 01, 2009, 05:01:41 pm
I've had those for a while. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 01, 2009, 05:08:21 pm
xD I've been trying for that, but I'm running out of room, so I've temporarily put that on hold =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 01, 2009, 07:19:45 pm
I got owned in Pokemon:Batlle Revolution on the wi-fi yesterday. Some kid from japan used all these legendary pokemon. I hadn't played in almost a year,so i just used copied pokemon from awhile ago.

Congrats on the MVP.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 01, 2009, 07:46:12 pm
All Legendaries... I could have fun with a team like that... >=D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 01, 2009, 07:50:49 pm
Dialgla,Kyogre,Giratina,Zapdos,etc. I barely did anything.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 02, 2009, 06:07:14 pm
Yet probably I could own Legends. Just because you use legends doesn't mean you can beat EVERYONE ;)

I don't have a Wii, but I hope to maybe be getting one around the time Platinum releases, but that's depending on one very great thing. And that is very low.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on March 03, 2009, 12:42:47 pm
I don't know if you know this already, but my Dragonair has PERFECT Speed and Attack at the same time! ;D  That's a 1/1024 chance!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 03, 2009, 12:46:40 pm
Congrats, how long it take you to get?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on March 04, 2009, 12:42:29 pm
It only took 3 rods to fish a perfect Dratini, all in the same day. I didn't even use Synchronize!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 04, 2009, 01:05:50 pm
*Whistles* That's pretty cool. Very lucky too. Congrats =)

What are the other stats' IVs?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on March 04, 2009, 08:05:54 pm
I have a Modest Yanma with PERFECT 31 IVs on Speed and a decent HP and Sp. Attack IVs. I caught a Lax Yanma with perfect 31 IVs on Sp. Attack. Then, I caught a Modest Ditto with a decent Speed stat. I put an Everstone on Ditto and bred the two. After several eggs, I hatched 10 Yanma. Out of the 10, 6 had the preferable nature, and most had 31 IVs in Sp. Attack, as the father Yanma had 31 IVs in Sp. Attack as well.   


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 06, 2009, 08:57:01 pm
I always thought i was great at pokemon......until i read 'bout you guys.

I swear though,i could have crushed you back in my day. Level 78 Blazeken,level 73 Aggron,level 100 Sceptile and Rayquaza,i was the CHAMP in emerald. I am not as heavy on pokemon now,but i will work hard at Plat. I will train to the point i could beat you(if i got internet on my DS)!

*"we will rock you" plays*


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 06, 2009, 10:27:40 pm
Even now I could beat that team, sorry to say. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on March 07, 2009, 11:06:57 pm
(http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr213/B_T_Energized/Pokemon/0301091637a.jpg)

This is proof of my achievement.

I also have a Jolly Gligar with PERFECT 31 IVs on Attack. It was bred, with a Lvl 19 Male Wurmple. :P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 08, 2009, 08:54:55 am
I now have a copy of Plat reserved and paid for. Traded in Pokemon:Batttle Revolution and Backyard Baseball,and a few old GBA games. Stll have about $10 credit leftover after using credit,like i already got it.......

That figure they gave out of Giratina was cheap. They made it look huge on TV.  At least in D/P you would get a stylus.

Well,2 more weeks to Plat.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on March 09, 2009, 11:28:25 pm
Don't have a Dragon Scale, though... >_>

Any other ideas?

Why not try this:
-Get a Pokemon with Frisk as an Ability
-Get a Pokemon with CompundEyes as an ability
-Get a Pokemon with Covet/Thief as one of their moves

Have all these Pokemon on your party and Fish Horsea. CompoundEyes increases the number of Pokemon that have Hold Items, Frisk tells what the Pokemon was holding, and Covet/Thief takes the Wild Pokemon's hold item.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 10, 2009, 10:04:24 am
12 days left to Plat......


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 10, 2009, 09:53:36 pm
GRAH...

*Can't wait*


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 11, 2009, 09:45:47 am
11 days until i mope about no internet acess.

If i get 14 more math lessons with 85% correct,my dad gives me $75 toward the Dsi. That might help with the internet,regardless of quality.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 13, 2009, 07:01:11 am
*Jaw drops* Whoa, the new Shaymin that'll be unlocked in Platinum with the Oak's Letter will be able to utilize the Gracidea Flower! =O

/EDIT: Also, I'm reading 'bout the Distortion World, and does anyone get a "Glitch City" vibe from the way scenery disappears and reappears? =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 13, 2009, 12:16:04 pm
Yeah,a little bit.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 13, 2009, 03:31:48 pm
Just got my Nintendo Power magazine; it lists 10 reasons to get Platinum:

1. Giratina!
2. Global Terminal
3. Distortion World
4. New Wi-Fi Plaza
5. New Gym Workouts
6. Endless Battles
7. Mysterious Silhouettes
8. Expanded Sinnoh Pokedex
9. New Faces
10. Everything You've Always Loved About Pokemon!

I'll leave you guys to puzzle anything that we didn't already know, but there probably isn't much of that. ::)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 13, 2009, 07:33:30 pm
That puts it in a nutshell.

By endless battles,it was talking about the ability to battle gym leaders again at the Frontier.

I'm glad they added the last chink of the Nat dex to the Sinnoh Dex. I am SO going to use Magmortor,Electiriver,or Rhyperior. You will see why if you battle those who have 'em,and i have a friend who can help me with the trade part.

As we have seen in Pokemon(cheeesily)heart beats skill. And with that i say the unthinkable: I would pwn you if i could! If i had wi-fi you would be a Magikarp!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 13, 2009, 07:55:36 pm
Riiight... =P

Finally beat the main storyline of PMD: EoD. Onto the post storyline. ;D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 13, 2009, 07:57:10 pm
There is still a lot more to do.

But have you EVEr faced a Rhyperior? Or Electivier? They are SICK tough.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 13, 2009, 08:09:43 pm
I have a Rhyperior. ::)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 13, 2009, 08:12:47 pm
Oh. Heh,heh.

They are strong. Very strong.

With the bigger dex,i can get better pokemon before the elite four.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 13, 2009, 08:26:56 pm
Well, I don't know what was added to the Sinnoh dex. All I know is that 50 were added to total 201 Pokemon, and one of them is Tropius. ::)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: lionytai on March 13, 2009, 09:26:53 pm
 does antone collect the old cards? the 1st genertation ones tha cam eou tat like 2000?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 13, 2009, 09:43:45 pm
I've got a bunch of them... Never touch them anymore, but I have them. ::)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 14, 2009, 09:23:51 am
Ditto. I have at least 2K. Those things were my whole world a long time ago,in a blissful galaxy far,far,away.

What!?! Math is my best subject! I can calculate! I use guidebooks to strategically pick out who is in my team.


And yeah,about the dex. I thought it was just the guys from expansion Sinnoh,though.

EDIT:Here is a link to what the Plat Dex will look like:http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_by_Sinnoh_Pok%C3%A9dex_number (http://mln.smfforfree4.com//bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_by_Sinnoh_Pok%C3%A9dex_number)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 14, 2009, 10:41:32 am
If you haven't yet, go to toys r us to get a special regigigas, and than trade it to platinum to unlock the other three regis! sadly, even though its level 100, it is weaker than my level 76 Giratina :-[.
PS: what is your favorite pokemon? mine is between: Misdreavus (may be misspelled), Arceus, Giratina, and Darkrai. as you can see, I like ghost and dark type legendarys.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on March 14, 2009, 05:04:30 pm
I beat the Tower Tycoon for the second time. (The non-legendary one)

B~T sends out Dragonite
TT sends out Rhyperior
B~T withdraws Dragonite
B~T sends out Empoleon
Rhyperior uses Ice Beam
Empoleon uses Surf
Rhyperior faints
TT sends out Dragonite
Empoleon uses Ice Beam
Dragonite uses Dragon Rush
Empoleon uses Ice Beam
Dragonite faints
TT sends out Milotic
Milotic uses Hypnosis
Empoleon is asleep
B~T withdrew Empoleon
B~T sends out Roserade
Milotic uses Hydro Pump
Roserade uses Petal Dance
Milotic uses Hypnosis
Roserade is asleep
B~T withdrew Roserade
B~T sends out Dragonite
Milotic uses Recover
Dragonite used Outrage
Milotic faints
B~T wins

This is the third time I versed him in "21 Win Streak Mode". One time, I lost to him pretty badly.

Oh, and the Dragonite was the same one I EV-trained a while ago. Currently at Level 64, and just learned Outrage. 


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 14, 2009, 05:50:56 pm
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@ddude:  Yes, but you said that "heart beat skill", and that you could beat me with that alone.  Thus, I made a retort against that. 

And a real competitive player doesn't need a guidebook.  I do everything from my head, as all others do.  You just need to memorize a bunch of things that you can actually find in-game.  Guidebooks aren't necessary. ;) 

So you're saying that you factor EVs, IVs, Natures, Base Stats, CHs, factored moves, counter-strategies and reverse tricks, and the overall tier that you're fighting in?  Then I await a battle with you.  I've been needing a good one for quite awhile. :) 

@herochild:  The point I've been trying to make throughout this topic is the same one that can apply here.  Level doesn't determine how strong a Pokemon is.  Base Stats, Effort Values, Interest Values, Abilities, and Natures determine how strong a Pokemon is.  For example, Giratina's stats are strong enough to put him in the Uber Tier.  On the other hand, Regigigas has much weaker stats, and has a HORRID ability, so he barely even makes Borderline Tier, much less OU or Uber.  Regigigas isn't that great of a Pokemon, in general opinion. 

Of course, the only real way that competitive people battle is in OU. ::) 

I love meh Gallade and Electivire, by the way.  Those two are really good in OU, and I put a fairly good amount of work into factoring out their stats. :)
I know that, but it still should be obvious that a LV 100 should beat a LV 76.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 14, 2009, 05:52:49 pm
What was the OU again?

@B~T: Nice. 8)

@herochild: Not really. While it may seem that way, a level 25 Pikachu could beat a level 100 Magicarp easily. Especially if it's his. XD

@Anyone: It's weird to have Dialga follow you around in PMD. He barely fits in the walls. XD


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 14, 2009, 05:54:41 pm
What was the OU again?

@B~T: Nice. 8)

@herochild: Not really. While it may seem that way, a level 25 Pikachu could beat a level 100 Magicarp easily. Especially if it's his. XD

@Anyone: It's weird to have Dialga follow you around in PMD. He barely fits in the walls. XD
well, ANYTHING but a tentacool or tentacruel (since splash is a one-hit KO against them) could beat a LV 100 Magicarp. to quote a fisherman in emerald: "humph! Magicarp! whats so magic about them anyway?"


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 14, 2009, 06:00:49 pm
...But I thought splash did nothing... ::)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 14, 2009, 06:31:18 pm
...But I thought splash did nothing... ::)
it doesn't do anything unless used against a tentacool or tentacruel.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 14, 2009, 06:43:31 pm
Prove it, or I'll fire up Diamond to prove it doesn't do anything =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 14, 2009, 07:17:16 pm
Prove it, or I'll fire up Diamond to prove it doesn't do anything =P
I am only repeating what I have heard from various tip sites. PS: you own diamond? PM me your friend code and ill send you my spare Manaphy (i have three)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 14, 2009, 07:22:58 pm
1. Well, Splash is a joke move ;)

2. Yeah, but unfortunately I already have a Manaphy... =/ But if you wanted a battle this week, sure. *Is waiting for Platinum* I may rent it while I'm waiting after it comes out, unless one of the stores here actually have a good that-day promo =P

3. *Wonders if Pokemon.com will do one of those premiere day videos they did last release*


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 14, 2009, 07:28:35 pm
1. Well, Splash is a joke move ;)

2. Yeah, but unfortunately I already have a Manaphy... =/ But if you wanted a battle this week, sure. *Is waiting for Platinum* I may rent it while I'm waiting after it comes out, unless one of the stores here actually have a good that-day promo =P

3. *Wonders if Pokemon.com will do one of those premiere day videos they did last release*
1: Magikarp is a joke pokemon!
2: I'll battle you, if you don't mind facing a regigigas, a darkrai, a palkia, a giratina, an empolion, and a (forgets name)... thing that evolves from the thing that evolves from starly (so its starlys third stage). PM me your friend code.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 14, 2009, 07:30:58 pm
1. True, but Gyarados isn't =P

2. Sure, if you don't mind level 100 battles with legends... I haven't gotten around to breeding or anything =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 14, 2009, 07:33:06 pm
1. True, but Gyarados isn't =P

2. Sure, if you don't mind level 100 battles with legends... I haven't gotten around to breeding or anything =P
Unless you have a lv 100 arceus, I don't mind. PM me your code already!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 14, 2009, 07:34:10 pm
I would LOVE to battle you,but no wi-fi. My dad is firm,but i will win somehow. Otherwise i will battle you when i move out in 14 years.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 14, 2009, 07:35:25 pm
herochild: Can you wait 'til tomorrow for that? I'll be getting off shortly... =/

Mata Nui: Or you could wait 'til April the 4th or so, and get the DS-i... =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 14, 2009, 07:36:27 pm
I would LOVE to battle you,but no wi-fi. My dad is firm,but i will win somehow. Otherwise i will battle you when i move out in 14 years.
no wifi?!? I'm really sorry to hear that! you know, nintendo should come with some sort of ethernet cable for the ds for people with no wifi.
Omega Blademan: take your time, there's no rush.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 14, 2009, 07:40:20 pm
Maybe the dsi can get it through the security we have.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 14, 2009, 07:41:18 pm
Maybe the dsi can get it through the security we have.
get what?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 14, 2009, 07:47:03 pm
wi-fi.

Anyway,i think i will try to get Electivire in Plat.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 14, 2009, 07:52:43 pm
wi-fi.

Anyway,i think i will try to get Electivire in Plat.
if you have a wii and a copy of pokemon battle revolution, you can send an electivire to dpp without wifi.
to get the electivire enter BA16-X4SH-E2AT in self-introduction.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on March 14, 2009, 10:52:09 pm
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Wait, is that the same I one I said had impressive IVs?  So how did you train it?  What EVs did you invest into it, and what moves does it have?  I'd be interested in knowing. :) 

Beating the Tower Tycoon, at least the first time, is easy.  The problem is getting around the haxing that happens at the Battle Tower.  It's so obnoxious how easily the opponent can override everything you do with no chance for you to win. >__<  Although, I've talked with some guys with Platinum on SerebiiForums, and the Battle Frontier looks to have a bit less haxing than the Battle Tower in Diamond and Pearl.

Many trainers in the Battle Tower use Double Team, which is one of the reasons why it is a challenge to achieve the 100-win streak. X.X Once, I versed a Blissey who set up 5 Double Teams. I used my Roserade to poison it badly and eventually won. It had Softboiled too... >.>  Now, my DS is out of Battery  :(, since my Recharger barely charges anymore.
ya
And yes, it's the same Dragonite with the Awxsome IVs. Its the Phys. Sweeper Spread: 6-HP, 252-Attack, 252-Speed
And it has
 = Outrage
 = Fire Punch
 = Aqua Tail
 = Dragon Dance

Twice, I KOed a team using only one Outrage. I wish I could replace Aqua Tail with Earthquake, but I'm saving it for more useful Pokemon, such as Physical Salamence.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 15, 2009, 02:00:29 pm
I think it was that Darkrai that you sent me...

Any luck on the Shaymin or Regi?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 15, 2009, 02:33:20 pm
if anyone needs a Manaphy, I have two extra. (and if anyone has a Shaymin that they don't need, I'll take it ;).)
PS: random tip: in pokemon leaf green or fire red, trade in a pokemon that knows cut so the SS Anne  never leaves. when you get surf go back and surf on the right of the SS Anne.  you will arrive on a T shaped island. if you use the Itemfinder, you will find a Lava Cookie. (but don't trust the rumors that say that Mew is there, I have tested all of them and found them false. Mew is not on the SS Anne.)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on March 15, 2009, 03:01:53 pm
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@BT:  Excellent.  That looks just about how I would raise a Dragonite. :)  Although, it never hurts to put Earthquake on a Pokemon. ;D  Earthquake is, in my opinion, essential to have at least once in every team.  If you put it somewhere else, that's always good, too.  And of course, Salamance is always a bit more adept to Attack and Speed than Dragonite, so I suppose putting Earthquake on him would also have justification. :)

EQ is 80 Battle Points on the Battle Tower, and that's expensive, especially since I... Hey. I could beat the Tower Tycoon like 3 times to  get enough BP to buy one ;D. Using a Pokemon that knows Pickup is pretty daunting too, as finding TM26 AKA Earthquake is only 1%.

And Dragonite is more on the Defensive side, so a Yache berry would be suitable for it. Basically a Defensive Salamence. And I just could clone on my Emerald for the TM26s, though it is very risky.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 15, 2009, 03:09:51 pm
PM me your friend code for a free Manaphy. 0:)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 15, 2009, 04:05:41 pm
*Cough* I'm a perfect example of messing up an Emerald Cloning run when I wasn't at a comp and I tried it and lost my Latios =P

Ah, ok =)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 15, 2009, 06:31:23 pm
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@Blade:  Oh yeah.  Actually, I was just thinking about that.  When I was sending you that PM about our battle, I thought "I should send him that extra Darkrai, but where is it?"  I guess I remember now. ;D  

Not yet, but I suppose that's because I haven't had the time to work on it lately. :)  I have a Regigigas that I got from someone at SerebiiForums back in June '08 that was from the Japan Movie 11 Event.  If you preordered your movie ticket at the time, you got to download the special Regigigas onto your game.  It officially came out before Shaymin, which is why I originally assumed that Regigigas would come out at the same time, if not sooner, than Shaymin in the US. ;)  

@herochild:  The whole Mew rumor started way back when even I was young and inexperienced, when the series was just getting started.  Of course, there were A LOT of glitches back then (Missingno, Glitch City, etc.), so people naturally bought into it. :)  

@BT:  Oh, I've got tons of cloned EQs on my Diamond Version.  You and I could trade, and I could get some to you, free of charge. :)  In all honesty, they're all going to waste anyway, so I don't have a use for them.  Of course, just about everything in the game is available for me to give away, excluding a select group of things. :)  

Um, don't make a defensive Salamance.  Dragonite is understandable, or at least more understandable than Salamance, but a defensive Salamance won't work out.  It contradicts his strengths and purpose.  Trust me, you're better off staying offensive. ;)  

Cloning on Emerald?  Risky?  Nonsense, BT. :)  Cloning on Emerald, in my opinion, is the safest and most stable form of cloning in the entire series.  If you follow all of the steps correctly, there should never be any risk or problem, period.  Trust me, I've done it hundreds of times in my day. :)
yeah, who started that Mew rumor anyway? I think Nintendo just put that island in the game as a joke.
PS: using an Action Replay, I used a Walk Through Walls code to explore the other side of the island.  there is nothing there. there is also nothing in the celadon city hotel, the stairs don't even work.
If there any rumors about Pokèmon that you want me to investigate, PM me.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 15, 2009, 06:33:03 pm
... What Celadon City hotel?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 15, 2009, 08:38:50 pm
i've singled out some Pokemon i will try to get in Plat:
Togekiss[spoiler]New part-Cynthia gives you egg where she gives you Cut,or possibly after you beat Team Galactic in*can't remember name* Eterna City[/spoiler]
Electivire-pretty even stats,lowish HP and late in game but decent
Infernape-I only picked it because Torterra won't let me have another Grass,Roserade,and Empoleon isn't great against gym leaders,and considering the difficulty to have a strong Fire-type by Gardenia.....
Roserade-I just like Budew,and pretty decent overall
Giratina-Well,why not?

My only problem is the water type. No realy good water-types,at least not without one major stat. Maybe i should trasfer a finneon.....

Tell me if you think it needs improvement.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 15, 2009, 10:39:28 pm
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@Blade:  He refers to the hotel in the southeast corner of Celadon City.  You know, the one that won't allow Pokemon? 

@ddude:  Okay, here's my advice for a good team. 

First off, I would honestly stick with Torterra.  I suppose Roserade has its perks, but I honestly think Torterra is a better trade off, if you can work around its low Speed and 4x weakness to Ice. 

For the Fire-type, stick to either Infernape or Magmortar, although I would personally suggest Infernape.  Do NOT pick Rapidash, period.  The other two are far superior. 

However, between the two I suggested, Infernape would be better.  His Attack and Speed are incredible, and he has quite a variety in his movepool.  His defenses are admittedly crippled, but if you make him into the perfect physical sweeper, you should be just fine. ;) 

As for a Water-type, stick with Empoleon, Floatzel, or Gastrodon.  All three are good, and have their ups and downs.  Floatzel is great for physical sweeping, but his movepool is a bit lackluster, and a few well-aimed hits can take him down easily.  Empoleon has fairly decent typing, and can have a pretty good movepool, but he can still be easily tripped up by a quick physical sweeper.  Gastrodon is a pretty good choice, as well, and offers somewhere in between the two.  He has a pretty average movepool, and can be pretty quick if executed correctly, but one or two well aimed Grass-type attacks will send it down in flames, and with the rising need for Grass-type attacks for Pokemon with Gastrodon's typing of the Water/Ground split, you'll always want to be wary of that.  Other than that, there aren't any really respectable Water-types, so you should stick with one of those three. 

Togekiss can be pretty good in battle, but you have to use him just right.  The ParaFlinch strategy always works well with him. 

You mean Giratina for a team?  I suppose that's up to you, but I don't really see the fun in going through the game using an Uber to win battles. :-\ 

I suppose that's a general overview for a good team, not just for you, but for everyone.  If there's any further advice needed, I'm always here to provide it. 

And as a reminder for some of the newer members, if anyone needs help getting particularly persistent Pokemon, chances are that I can help you out.  I've finished the Pokedex legitimately, along with everything else (aside from the ************' hax tower >__<), so I can help with just about anything needed.  Just ring a bell, and I'll be around to help. :)
yeah, sorry. I guess I just figured that everyone has tried to get in that hotel at least once ;).
remember, if there are any pokemon rumors that you want me to check, PM me! (actually, I can only check non-cheating DPP rumors, I don't want to corrupt my file.)
Current test: in fire red and leaf green, if I use walk through Walls to leave the starting area without getting a pokemon and then get in a battle, will I be using MissingNo as my Pokemon? I'l post the results as soon as I can.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 16, 2009, 05:52:14 am
^That's crazy. =P

@team_advice: As you're saying the three DPP starters are a nice "core" for a team?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 16, 2009, 08:31:28 am
Well,they kind are. When you think about it.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 16, 2009, 09:46:23 am
Dang, you beat me =P

There used to be a nice site about Pokemon glitches and such, but I dunno if it's still up or not =/ ... And I forget what it's called too =/


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 16, 2009, 10:19:41 am
Dang, you beat me =P

There used to be a nice site about Pokemon glitches and such, but I dunno if it's still up or not =/ ... And I forget what it's called too =/
are you referring to trsrockin.com? it has a lot of glitch info.

Quote
Actually, you'll be battling with no Pokemon. ;) 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6AX zaTPr7Q&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6AXzaTPr7Q&feature=related)

That should answer your question. ;)
that movie reminded me of something: if you use walk through walls to go to that poster behind the poke mart clerk, the poster is readable! maybe there used to be a way to go behind the counter in the early stages of the game?
oh, and I tried it out. that movie is correct. but that pokemon (The ? one) is MissingNo (at least one of them.)
PS: mods, please merge this with my prior post.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 16, 2009, 02:13:36 pm
Yeah, that's it =) I remember back when it was R/S/E that was just coming out and D/P that were still a while away. Good times...

And isn't that Invisible Bulbasaur, or is that a different one? =/


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 16, 2009, 03:54:01 pm
 ;)
Yeah, that's it =) I remember back when it was R/S/E that was just coming out and D/P that were still a while away. Good times...

And isn't that Invisible Bulbasaur, or is that a different one? =/
no, thats MissingNo.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 16, 2009, 03:58:33 pm
Where's IB then? 0_o

Oh yeah, it is, I remember now xD


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on March 16, 2009, 04:03:15 pm
;)
Yeah, that's it =) I remember back when it was R/S/E that was just coming out and D/P that were still a while away. Good times...

And isn't that Invisible Bulbasaur, or is that a different one? =/
no, thats MissingNo.

MissingNo. was a common glitch in the early Pokemon Red/Blue.

I'm pretty sure that Invisible Bulbasaur applies for both RSE and DP...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 16, 2009, 04:10:04 pm
My friend experienced MissingNo in Bue. Looked at the hall of fame and game crashed. Lost all 150 pokemon.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 16, 2009, 04:24:11 pm
That's 'M =P Missingno himself shouldn't cause many glitches outside of hall of fame mess ups(No crashes), and adding the max amount of a slot of items to a certain slot of items.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: 0PureChaos0 on March 16, 2009, 05:07:38 pm
I think it was that Darkrai that you sent me...

Any luck on the Shaymin or Regi?

Regigigas? You can get it at a Toys R Us by  the 21 from mystery gift, just like Shaymin in February.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 16, 2009, 05:21:29 pm
I live in Canada though, so no Regi for me if I try TRU >_> It's US and Puerto Rico(I think, I think that's the other place it's available in...) only... =/ Which is why I asked 'bout the Shaymin and Regi...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 16, 2009, 05:57:46 pm
That's 'M =P Missingno himself shouldn't cause many glitches outside of hall of fame mess ups(No crashes), and adding the max amount of a slot of items to a certain slot of items.
yeah, MissingNo is much safer than {}M{{}


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Canama on March 16, 2009, 06:16:57 pm
Wow... Platinum comes out Sunday!

The event Regigigas is pathetic. Even at level 100, it's worthless for battles. At least it has some use for the Regis.

-Canama


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 16, 2009, 06:29:24 pm
Yeah, that's the only reason we really want it =P

I can't wait, though I'll be renting it the first week unless one of the stores here has a first day special offer.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Canama on March 16, 2009, 06:55:07 pm
I'll be buying it on release day.

-Canama


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 16, 2009, 07:06:20 pm
I'll be buying it on release day.

-Canama
I hope I can! I really want it!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 16, 2009, 08:12:15 pm
Sunday? As in this Sunday? =O

*Is excited due to preorder*


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Canama on March 16, 2009, 08:16:03 pm
As in this Sunday.

They really need to remake the Pokemon topic on BZP... I've noticed that this is mostly the same crew.

-Canama


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 16, 2009, 08:36:38 pm
I pre-ordered it. I traded in about $48 of games(two wii,three gameboy),and used $30 to pre-pay for it. I hope my mom doesn't lose the recipt,lol.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 16, 2009, 08:37:40 pm
I just had to put $5 down on it. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 16, 2009, 08:39:54 pm
What do you mean?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 16, 2009, 08:44:21 pm
Preorder. ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 16, 2009, 08:48:03 pm
I know,but the $5? You only paid $5,or what?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 16, 2009, 08:56:14 pm
That's the down payment. Because I did that, I'm guarenteed a copy. When it comes in, I pay the other $30. ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 16, 2009, 09:09:37 pm
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

I wish the game came out on Saturday,because:
A-I am at church all day on Sunday, but on Saturday i can play ALL day.

B-my friend will come over on Sat,so i would have gotten all three starters with both DSs.

EDIT:Only 4 more days! Those New Yorkers get it a day early >:(.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Canama on March 18, 2009, 08:26:44 am
I don't go to church, so the reason I'm mad is that Sunday is the last day of Spring Break for me. If they had just released it last Sunday, I'd have all week! Or better yet, last Saturday.

-Canama


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 18, 2009, 09:59:08 am
I don't go to church, so the reason I'm mad is that Sunday is the last day of Spring Break for me. If they had just released it last Sunday, I'd have all week! Or better yet, last Saturday.

-Canama
Same here, March Break is over for me on Sunday =P

But, I don't care THAT much, since I more than likely won't be actually getting it until like next month or so...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 18, 2009, 10:02:52 am
I hope I can get on launch day.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 18, 2009, 10:54:57 am
I WILL get it on launch day. I have to. Already paid for.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 18, 2009, 11:06:37 am
*Remembers what happened to me last time* No, not necessarily. What if they don't get it on Release day? =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 18, 2009, 03:13:04 pm
Wait......What happened on release day?

I reserved Diamond,and it was fine....


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 18, 2009, 03:22:44 pm
Wait......What happened on release day?

I reserved Diamond,and it was fine....
well, I had to wait a week before any store in my area got Shadows Of Almia.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 18, 2009, 03:52:42 pm
I had to wait until the Wednesday or Thursday of that week to get Diamond, since they didn't get it on Release Day xD So, I just rented Pearl while I was waiting =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 19, 2009, 12:07:56 pm
Where did  you get it? Please don't say Gamestop.......


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 19, 2009, 12:25:54 pm
Best Buy. It was quite funny actually =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 19, 2009, 03:10:26 pm
Where did  you get it? Please don't say Gamestop.......
I get almost all my games there! though there is a little shop near me that sells old games- and i mean as in before the NES! they sell new games there too, though.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on March 19, 2009, 05:33:28 pm
Where did  you get it? Please don't say Gamestop.......
I get almost all my games there! though there is a little shop near me that sells old games- and i mean as in before the NES! they sell new games there too, though.

I mainly get my games at Target. It's more neater there.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 20, 2009, 01:13:36 pm
Where did  you get it? Please don't say Gamestop.......
I get almost all my games there! though there is a little shop near me that sells old games- and i mean as in before the NES! they sell new games there too, though.

I mainly get my games at Target. It's more neater there.
yeah, but they don't have a very large selection of games.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 20, 2009, 01:14:37 pm
I go to Walmart or EB Games. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 20, 2009, 01:25:27 pm
I go to Walmart or EB Games. =P
all the EB games stores near me got bought by Gamestop.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on March 21, 2009, 01:02:26 pm
Counter returns DOUBLE the damage done to the user, so the Counter must be pretty powerful, especially since Blissey has high HP and putrid defenses.
Dewgong must be holding Kings Rock, causing a 30% chance of flinching.

I think Knock Off helps in Battle Towers.  :-\

(Edit): At least Deoxys is banned in Competitive Battling...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 21, 2009, 01:29:04 pm
...*Feels bad for him*...

Look at the bright side. Plat comes out tomorrow. =D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 21, 2009, 01:57:21 pm
...I think I'll try to create a decent team B~T-style with Plat.

It'll probably never happen as well as if you guys were doing it, but I'll give it a shot. =P

Do you guys memorize this stuff, or do you have guides for this?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 21, 2009, 03:17:09 pm
Well, at least I know elemental +/-, stat basics, and move variety. =P

IVs and whatnot are beyond me, though. ::)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 21, 2009, 04:34:56 pm
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@DB:  Yeah, but the downside is that I haven't prepared for anything on my team. :-\  I still need to get a replacement Manaphy and Darkrai that I lost because of my brother, both of which were meant to be for my Platinum version.  It's an even longer, worse story about what happened to my Ranger 2 file, but that's for another day, I suppose. -__-  I still need to

make a Chimchar Egg to trade
figure out appropriate final movesets
figure out when I'm actually getting everyone
hopefully finish the last Trainer Card star
make last minute necessary trades on SerebiiForums

I've got a lot to do with very little time. -__- 

@BT:  Oh, I knew all of that, but there's also factoring of what pathetic Attack and Defense Blissey has, and what that factors out to.  It just doesn't make logical sense, but that's what happens when you get haxed. >__< (by the way, I make the face to the right whenever haxing is discussed, in case anyone didn't know) 

Well, Blissey's Defense is crud, but it has PHENOMENAL Special Defense.  It's arguably the best Special Wall out there. 

I agree that Knock Off helps, but it spends a turn that could be useful in taking a direct swing at the opponent.  Most people, including myself, usually tend to avoid using Knock Off. 

Well, again, it depends on what Tier you're talking about. :)  I don't traditionally play in Uber Tier, but it still hurts to get a Pokemon with a crummy Nature and an unpredictable set of IVs.
remember, I have 2 extra manaphys...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 21, 2009, 05:31:02 pm
I never go to those events......

Not much more waiting for Plat!!

My friend was over,and i got a Plat guidebook on Amazon,so we plotted out our teams. Here is what mine will look like as the final product....

Infernape
Vaporeon
Togekiss
Gallade/Gardevoir(undecided)
Electivire
Giratina(will change when playing on wi-fi)

The best part is that the Dsi will connect to our computer security,so i should be able to play via wi-fi. Assuming the game itself can handle the security too....


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 21, 2009, 05:38:08 pm
The game doesn't have anything to do with security, it's all dependant on the console ;)

*Waits for B~T before commenting on the team, since he'll know it better*

I may be getting the Guidebook... Maybe. All depends on future events.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 21, 2009, 05:42:59 pm
I have a D/P guide. I'll be fine, with a few modifications. =P

As for a team, it'll at least have the three starters. Find some good natures and I'll be set.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 21, 2009, 07:24:59 pm
My team look good?

PLEASE NOTE-My time here will have a SIGNIFICANT drop,due to the game's release.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on March 21, 2009, 11:06:17 pm
Its 12:04 AM, Platinum is here. W00T!!

Oh wait. The shop is closed.



Anyways, I hope that I can get my hands on Platinum once its released.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 21, 2009, 11:55:21 pm
I know I'm getting it today. I recieved a comfirmation call on Saturday saying they had it. ^_^


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 22, 2009, 08:16:01 am
Bye everyone. See you in 4 months when my spell has been lifted.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Canama on March 22, 2009, 08:20:03 am
I am getting it in a few hours.

See you when I beat the game!

-Canama


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 22, 2009, 08:33:20 am
Bye everyone. See you in 4 months when my spell has been lifted.

Everything will have changed by then probably, look how much MLNO changed in four months already. SO, looks like you're missing out on that 100,000th post after all. xD

Congrats to everyone who gets the game =)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 22, 2009, 09:01:36 am
Must... Get... To... EBGames... Later today...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on March 22, 2009, 10:49:12 am
Me getting Pokemon Platinum is a 1/9999999 chance for me, unfortunately :-\.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 22, 2009, 10:49:21 am
asdfgh. Definitely no guide now unless I pay extra. >_> I'm annoyed about that now, because I wanted something I didn't just have to go online to look up stuff, so when I forgot stuff I could just look it up. Looks like that's not happening now. And the jury's still out on Plat being available. >_>

BT: Why? The fact that because it's one of the greatest Pokemon games(Wait, scratch that, THE greatest Pokemon game) to date, it'll be sold out of basically everywhere? Join the club, while I'm really wanting it today, I'm unfortunately thinking that won't be happening.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 22, 2009, 12:51:37 pm
I have the game, in my hands, right now. The guide and figure of Giratina are nearby.

Once you get the guide, you will not need another like it. It is 1 1/4 inches thick, contains a complete guide to the game, two Pokedexs (Sinnoh and Nat.), the second of which reaches from Bulbasaur to Shaymin [Sky Forme]. They also include a contest guide, a Frontier guide, and an underground guide.

*Goes to open the game*

And my game store seemed to have plenty of Platinums... =/


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: 0PureChaos0 on March 22, 2009, 01:30:46 pm
I'll be playing my game for a while, just got it. Hopefully see you on Wi-Fi!
0PureChaos0 out.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 22, 2009, 02:19:27 pm
=/ Still no Plat... And I won't be getting the guide more than likely... =/

Dudebot: Probably stocking up in case tons of people went to get it...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 22, 2009, 02:27:35 pm
Even with 7 dollars off, the whole thing cost me ~$50. ::)

The guide itself was $20! At least I got $2 off on it. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 22, 2009, 02:30:44 pm
Exactly the reason why I probably won't be getting it... =/ Wait, the guide was $20? That's weird, it was 20 here too... How much was Platinum there?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 22, 2009, 02:43:01 pm
About $35. I got $5 off, though, 'cause I preordered it. ::)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 22, 2009, 03:17:43 pm
So, around 39.99? Hmm, interesting... That's the price of Platinum here 0_o


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 22, 2009, 06:42:28 pm
No, I got Platinum for $30. It was $35. ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 22, 2009, 07:15:56 pm
now that I have Platinum, I will not have much time to spend here anymore. PM me your friend code!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 22, 2009, 08:17:21 pm
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Um, Blade?  Platinum is one of the best.  It's the best modern game, among modern standards (3rd and 4th generation).  However, I still have to say that G/S/C are better, at least from what I see.  Nothing can really compare to them, although I will admit that D/P/P gave them a really good run for their money, in my opinion. :) 

It seems in my rush and lack of time, I've made one grave miscalculation.  Everything that I've planned out is going according to plan with my team, but there's one hitch.  The Torterra, Infernape, Floatzel, Gliscor, and Staraptor are all going as planned, but I failed to plan out how, exactly, I would obtain a functioning Electivire.  I now realize that, in order to obtain even an Elekid Egg or an Electabuzz, I must wait until Route 222, which is right before the 8th Badge.  I've become saddened by this, and I've managed to transfer over an Elekid Egg, but it has all of the best moves for it (Thunder Punch, Ice Punch, Cross Chop, Earthquake).  It hasn't hatched yet, but I know it has them.  Thus, I've been debating over whether or not to use it, because that would compromise plans and make the game way too easy.  On the other hand, I have a Shinx ready to go, but I wanted to avoid using him this time around.  At this point, I suppose I'm going to go ahead with the Shinx.  That will make sure that I don't cheat myself of the enjoyment.  I'll properly hatch and raise an Electivire later, when the proper time arises.  Oh well, at least things are looking pretty good, although I haven't made much progress on it yet, due to complications in life, as well as the LRC. 

I was hoping to be done with getting to Rank 10 in MLN before today, but I evidently see that didn't happen.  Oh well, I suppose I'll be taking the long road, then. 

It's looking pretty fun so far. :)  Of course, after hanging around at Serebii and SerebiiForums so much, you tend to learn a lot about stuff, so I all ready knew ahead of time about everything that's come my way.  Anyway.  We'll have to start swapping Friend Codes here soon, but I'd like to make a bit more progress on Platinum before doing that. :) 

Would you believe it if I said that there were many people at SerebiiForums that have all ready beaten the game?
i agree. Plat is nice, but it can't beat Crystal. they should make a DS version of it, with modern graphics and items, and touch screen pokegear.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 22, 2009, 08:51:25 pm
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Well, they would need to do it properly, and do the games some justice.  If they would turn out to be crummy games, then I would rather it be left alone.
if they do remake it, they could also use the WFC in the communications center, and add new areas, like the rest of the soul house, the sevii islands, the kanto radio tower, the Wifi plaza, a new battle frontier, more pokegear apps, etc. there is so much potential. if they do remake it, it should have a name similar to the originals, like with leaf green and fire red. maybe crystal clear?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 22, 2009, 09:04:18 pm
I like the sound of Crystal Clear. =P

I think I've managed to assemble a nice core for Plat. When I say "core," I mean the three starters. It took a lot of cross-refrencing and 12 Piplups (XD), but I think I've got something.

Chimchar:
Naughty
Likes to fight

Piplup:
Quiet
Likes to fight

Turtwig:
Brave
Somewhat vain

Correct me if I should try something else, though. I'll figure out the rest of the team later.

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Would you believe it if I said that there were many people at SerebiiForums that have all ready beaten the game?
Wouldn't surprise me in the least. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 22, 2009, 09:24:38 pm
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herochild:  No, that's the opposite of what most of the community wants.  There needs to be more focus on Johto, not less.  The one major flaw that existed in G/S/C was that there was much more focus put on Kanto then there was Johto.  I wouldn't be bothered if Kanto appeared, but I want Game Freak to not only do justice for G/S/C, but Johto in particular. 

DB:  I think you should be okay, but I don't have all Natures memorized, so I wouldn't exactly quote that. 

I've been meaning to get around to making the GSDS debate for months.  I'll try to work on it here.  There's a specific way that it needs to be presented, so I'll try to make it work.
I know, but kanto just seemed half-made in the originals. but they could also add some more jhoto areas, like letting you go to the roof of the burned tower (which, like Celebi, is currently japan only), or adding more areas to MT. Silver (and changing Red and Blues names to Ash and Gary). plus, Imagine being able to catch Arceus in Jhoto! and they could bring back Mewtoo, and the three birds, maybe even making it so you needed to catch them before you could catch Lugia. there is so much that they could do!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 22, 2009, 10:48:36 pm
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But all of it would be conflicting.  Recall that not only does G/S/C take place three years after R/B/Y, but this is the video games, not the anime.  In the games, those characters would retain those names.  The anime revolves around the games, not the other way around.  Also, I don't see what the point would be to going to the top of the Burned Tower, or adding onto Mt. Silver.  Mt. Silver's sole purpose was to present a slightly challenging method of battling what has been the strongest in-game trainer in history (until Platinum).  There wouldn't really be any reason to add on, and I don't see what the point would be to exploring the roof of a burned building that wouldn't serve any purpose otherwise.  Finally, the legendary references is the least likely of all.  Arceus' domain resides above Sinnoh, where he apparently "began everything".  There wouldn't really be any logic as to why he would be in Kanto/Johto of all places.  And because Mewtwo and the three birds were confronted by Red in R/B/Y, they can't exist in a GSDS. 

I understand that you're trying to be creative with this, and I applaud that.  It's just that there are too many continuity errors for almost any of that to happen. 

Meanwhile, did anyone else hear about this? o__0  Some people seriously need to get a life. 

http://db.pokesav.org/main/?q=03-21-09-Event-Hoax#comment-1373 (http://db.pokesav.org/main/?q=03-21-09-Event-Hoax#comment-1373)

Also, in the article, one of the comments gave a link to a Youtube video about it.  I must warn you though, there is HEAVY evidence of racism in this Gengar.  Its name is a racial slur, and its moves revolve around ridiculing that race, so I only suggest watching that video if you're mature enough to deal with something like that.
well, continuity wise, it is never stated in G/S/C that the three birds or Mewtoo were captured. also, the roof is a little hard to explain, but in the Japan version, Eusine is there, and he gives a special item and a clue about Celebi. there is even a hole in the roof in the US version that is in the same spot as the enterane to the roof is in the Japan version. Also, legend wise, I just used Arceus as an example. it could be any legendary. plus, even though all the Sinnoh legendarys were captured in DP, they are still in Plat, which happens about four years later. is THAT a continuity  error?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 23, 2009, 05:28:09 am
Even more so, you can catch the three birds in Sinnoh. =P

Anyone else know that Regigigas can be caught in Platinum at the lovely level of 1?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 23, 2009, 08:08:54 am
Yeah,i knew. Sometime soon i will post my friend code here....

I currently have:2 Gym Badges,leve; 18 Togepi,level 28 Monferno. I just pwned everyone with Monferno until i got the egg.

EDIT-Also,my Togepi has AWFUL Attack and Speed,Speed will be fixed with evolution,but to make it worse,it has Hustle! Other than that,prety good.And as a bailout on the Attack,it has a pretty strong "return" atack.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 23, 2009, 06:01:01 pm
I got Platinum! *Is annoyed that the Mystery Gift events aren't seemingly out yet* Anyone got any clue when it may be out?

Also, anyone happen to have a spare Event Regi and/or spare Event Shaymin?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on March 23, 2009, 06:13:53 pm
Platinum Shmatinum...

no I'm joking, I want it, but I'll wait ofr my b-day, which is in... a while... I'm saving for August, and Bionicle, unless its pretty cheap. How much was it?

BTW, I've seen two Platinum comercials, both of which were pretty cool. The second one was kinda wierd, just a plain Giratina that loomed out at me...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 23, 2009, 06:15:57 pm
Here was around 39.99 in the ad... Not that much. But... Your call.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 23, 2009, 07:23:23 pm
I got Platinum! *Is annoyed that the Mystery Gift events aren't seemingly out yet* Anyone got any clue when it may be out?

Also, anyone happen to have a spare Event Regi and/or spare Event Shaymin?
well, you can tell the guy in the TV building floor 3 EVERYONE HAPPY WIFI CONNECTION to turn on mystery gift, but the secret key isn't out yet.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 23, 2009, 09:02:29 pm
I plan to AR it eventually, but not now. Having too much fun not cheating to look it up at the moment. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 24, 2009, 05:57:29 am
You and I aren't too far off. I'm currently heading through the Eterna Forest myself. My Starter Trio have evolved once each, and all are near Lv 20. I'v currently also got a Shinx and a Geodude, but I'll figure out that half of the team later.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 24, 2009, 07:34:53 am
Herochild: I know how to get it, I got the insert, I'm just annoyed it's not out yet =P

Sure, but Borrowing may take a while, what with me only being at the Valley Windworks =P

Canadian, if I were to get the American version, it'd take a week or two more. =P

Now, I did get the insert about the mystery gifts...

'k, I guess even if it's just to borrow to get the item, since apparently Platinum caught Shaymin are able to use it...(And this I'd be able to get easier because I'm right near the location =P) But, if you could find an Event shaymin, a spare one, that'd be awesome too =)

Team Discussion: I've got... Level 17 Turtwig, Level 10 Ponyta, Level 10 Bidoof, Level 10 Psyduck, Level 11 Shinx, and a Level 11 Starly. Trying to level them evenly, but... =P It's hard to level them up when you use Turtwig a lot =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 24, 2009, 10:20:52 am
why did they rename the gorgeous ribbon as the luxury ribbon?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 24, 2009, 11:10:25 am
Is that one of the ones you buy? If so, it's probably because it'd fit more... I dunno, ask Nintendo =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 24, 2009, 11:30:48 am
Here's what my team looks like-I have been pretty efficient:
Level 32 Monferno
Level 31 Togetic
Level 25 Vaporeon
Level 24 Kirlia

I am using the EXP Share to level up Vaporeon and Kirlia. I am undecided on how to evolve Kirlia-Wait to get Stone and effect comes in later,Level 30 and effect comes in now. I want Gallade,but i will still wait to decide.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 24, 2009, 04:17:07 pm
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@DB:  I wouldn't go with Geodude, personally, but then again, I'm not a huge fan of Rock-type Pokemon, so I can't really fairly say one way or another. :)  Its stats could just be seen as inferior. 

So you can use it on the one from the Flower Elysium, as well. :) (sorry, I forget the English name, if it ever changed)
Geodude is a temporary; I have no intentions of keeping him in my party. =P

And the name was "Flower Paradise." I remember this offhand, for some reason. =P

I'm thinking for (eventually) switching my Shinx for either Pikachu or Jolteon. I love Luxray, don't get me wrong, but I feel like changing things up a bit.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 24, 2009, 04:32:10 pm
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Geodude is a temporary; I have no intentions of keeping him in my party. =P
Ah.  An HM slave, I presume?  I find Bidoof to be a good one. :) 
I HATE BIDOOF WITH A PASSION. >_<
Glad that's out of my system. Moving on.

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I'm thinking for (eventually) switching my Shinx for either Pikachu or Jolteon. I love Luxray, don't get me wrong, but I feel like changing things up a bit.
Oh, you have good reason.  Luxray isn't that great in the long run compared to other choices.  I would honestly suggest using Electivire, Raichu, or Magnezone as your Electirc-type in the end.

Don't have access to an Electrizizer (sp?), and Empoleon will cover my Steel type. So I'll probably work towards Raichu.

Volt Tackle a good move to have?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on March 24, 2009, 05:10:42 pm
I'm thinking of maybe getting Platinum sooner, and not on my b-day, since I want a guitar amp and things to go along with it... If I get Platinum I'll start with Piplup, cause I felt in Pearl that he's the weakest one, kinda(Torterra and Infernape can easily beat my Empoleon...) I really hope you can get a Larvitar, because Tyranitar is my favourite pkmn.
So far, I only know of a few changes in Platinum, such as the new gym formations, battle frontier, the ending, and the wi-fi stuff, as well as different forms for pkmn... are there any other noticable ones that don't reveal too much plot change?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 24, 2009, 05:16:26 pm
Well, there's Looker, who's probably the craziest guy you will meet in-game evar. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 24, 2009, 06:16:22 pm
I have Electivire planned to keep. And if that is what you think of Gallade,i will go with Gardevoir. I was hoping you would advise on that,and you did,and my Kirlia just passed level 30(stopped it from evolving). And i wouldn't be caught DEAD without an Electric type.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 24, 2009, 10:38:26 pm
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@DB:  By all means, Volt Tackle is a great move to have on a Raichu.  Just make sure to keep its HP in check at all times.  Volt Tackle can do a doozy on Raichu, even after just one or two uses.
*Goes to find a Light Ball*

I'll look into it, at least. If I find better stuffs, then I'll go with those.

Getting close to Hearthome City...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 24, 2009, 10:51:16 pm
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@DB:  By all means, Volt Tackle is a great move to have on a Raichu.  Just make sure to keep its HP in check at all times.  Volt Tackle can do a doozy on Raichu, even after just one or two uses.
*Goes to find a Light Ball*

I'll look into it, at least. If I find better stuffs, then I'll go with those.

Getting close to Hearthome City...
Hearthome? I am at the first lake, and I just beat Saturn! (If you need any help, or a Manaphy, PM me).


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 25, 2009, 07:37:30 am
Because this is too much to remember, I'm using two tabs for this convo =P

Actually, if I remember right the Darkrai thing ended back in December and they're through the second thing of the Rotom Key... But yeah, I don't expect it any time soon either =P

Possible... I'd think it was just packed in every NA box though =P

Ah... Ok then. If only I find one then. =P

True... =)

Ah, right, forgot 'bout that... Yeah, brain freeze there, he would have to ask GF =P

HM Slave thing: I use Bibarel myself =P

Electric Pokemon: I use Luxio, but only because that and Rotom are my only best choices right now, since I currently don't have any means of transferring my Pokemon from Diamond.

Bidoof thing: xD

Looker: That he is. =P

Game Progress: I just beat Team RocketGalactic out of Eterna and got the Bike... Pretty interesting how they work the statue in this one.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 25, 2009, 08:17:02 am
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Oh, no.  If you have to choose between the two, definitely go with Gallade.  I was just saying that it's fun to use for awhile, but it has a REALLY shattered Defense, and he can get really old somewhat quickly.

GAH!!!!!!!! I evolved it into Gardevoir!!!!

Well,i should be a man boy about this. Also,i am at Gym number 5. I want to train more before i enter,but no where good to train.

Active team:
Vaporeon-level 32
Togetic-level 32
Gardevoir-level 32
Monferno-level 34

The battle with Wake will all depend on Gardevoir. It has awesome Special stats,and knows Shock Wave and Magical Leaf.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 25, 2009, 12:06:12 pm
I should have leveled my team up more- I now have to take on the Snowpoint Gym Leader (if I can get past those pesky snowballs) with my only Pokemon over LV 15 a LV 55 Torterra! And Ice beats Grass!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 25, 2009, 12:52:23 pm
Good luck with that-you gotta keep an even team.

My team:
Infernape-level 36
Togetic-level 35
Gardevoir-level 35
Vaporeon-level 35

And I'm not messing around with them,either-Infernape knows Close Combat,Vaporeon knows Blizzard and Surf,Togetic knows Ancientpower,Fly and has a one-hit KO Return move,and my Gardevoir knows Psychic(although they all do) and Magical Leaf. Come out me with the wrong type,i will CRUSH you.

5 gym Badges,heading to Canalve,then i will go to Iron Island and get the Shiny stone to evolve Togetic and get #6.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 25, 2009, 12:54:19 pm
Good luck with that-you gotta keep an even team.

My team:
Infernape-level 36
Togetic-level 35
Gardevoir-level 35
Vaporeon-level 35

And I'm not messing around with them,either-Infernape knows Close Combat,Vaporeon knows Blizzard and Surf,Togetic knows Ancientpower,Fly and has a one-hit KO Return move,and my Gardevoir knows Psychic(although they all do) and Magical Leaf. Come out me with the wrong type,i will CRUSH you.

5 gym Badges,heading to Canalve,then i will go to Iron Island and get the Shiny stone to evolve Togetic and get #6.
anyone know where to get the EXP share? I need to level up my Luxio.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 25, 2009, 12:55:47 pm
It is south of Eterna,go to the biking area and Prof. Rowan's assistant will give it.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 25, 2009, 12:58:06 pm
It is south of Eterna,go to the biking area and Prof. Rowan's assistant will give it.
great, thanks. speaking of Eterna, what is that statue of? it doesn't look like Dialga, Plakia, OR Giratina. and I doubt that it's Arceus.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 25, 2009, 03:54:25 pm
Electivire and Giratina wil be my last two.

Team Updater-
level 41 Infernape
level 39 Vaporeon
level 38 Togekiss
level 38 Gardevoir

Traing in Iron Island. Great place to train.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 25, 2009, 05:02:06 pm
Just got my third badge: Hearthome. It's annoying, though, how long they make you wait for Pikachu. Although, I suppose I could bring it over from Pearl... Thank goodness I have two DSs in my house. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on March 25, 2009, 09:58:22 pm
Too bad I don't have two DSs in my house... :-\

If I can get Platinum, my 2nd  prototype team would be:
~ Torterra
~ Milotic, if I can trade/get one
~ Medicham (Fire Punch)
~ Altaria
~ Froslass
~ Drapion

Any suggestions?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on March 26, 2009, 03:18:34 pm
My team will be:
Tyranitar
Dragonite
Metagross
Empoleon
Leafeon
and a lightning type, either Raichu or Manectric


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 26, 2009, 03:29:29 pm
Um.....You have to beat the game before getting most of those.

My team is complete. All done with the Distorion World.

Team Updater Thingamabob:
Infernape-level 46
Electabuzz-level 41
Togekiss-level 45
Gardevoir-level 45
Giratina-level 47
Vaporeon-level 46

Preparing for the final Gym Leader.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on March 26, 2009, 03:36:53 pm
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@BT:  I suppose your team looks pretty fair.  

@RP:  Aw, where's the fun in that? :-\  Also, your team has a gaping weakness.  If I were to simply pull out a Physical Sweeper on your team, like, say, my Electivire, who happens to have an Ice-type move as well as a Ground-type move, he could floor your team.  

And at any rate, as ddude said, the vast majority of that would have to wait until later.  

Your team looks pretty fair, ddude.  I personally wouldn't use Giratina (I feel like it takes away the challenge a bit), but I guess that's your choice.
Metagross has that Magnet move...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on March 26, 2009, 04:45:27 pm
Okay, there may be a few holes.
Tyranitar and Dragonite will tsay for sure, and I may sub out Metagross for someone else. But most of my pkmn would have earthquake, which takes out electivire


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 26, 2009, 04:51:44 pm
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@herochild:  Even before factoring EVs, IVs, etc. into a Pokemon, the first, most important part of a team is to keep their leveling even.  If you don't, your team will surely fall apart. 

Nonetheless, I'm sure everyone has gone down the same path as you in their beginning.  I, too, am guilty of that. :)  Believe it or not, I've only been a competitive battler in full understanding within the last year.  I knew all of the factors, but I didn't begin incorporating them until about early June.  I remember my Crystal version and Sapphire versions.  I did the same thing as you, with Feraligatr and Swampert, respectively. :)  Just trust me, keep an even team, and you'll do fine. ;)
for some reason, I never let my Marshtomp evolve.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 26, 2009, 05:44:52 pm
I'm goimg to wait a bit before I let my "core" evolve, so I can get them some good moves.

Raichu is confirmed for my team, although I'm only working on getting him at the moment. That leaves me two blank spots for others... Suggestions?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 26, 2009, 05:50:16 pm
I'm goimg to wait a bit before I let my "core" evolve, so I can get them some good moves.

Raichu is confirmed for my team, although I'm only working on getting him at the moment. That leaves me two blank spots for others... Suggestions?
Darkrai? Dialga? Chansey? Chansey has such high defense that a LV 100 Hacked Craydilly that I made, one with every stat (HP, Def, Speed, SP Def, Atk, Sp Atk) at 999, lost to a LV 96 Chansey.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 26, 2009, 05:53:57 pm
Chansey Blissey is a possibility, due to its effectiveness as a "tank" as I believe it had been described. That, and I believe a Blissey tuned just right could have 814 HP, or so I hear.

And I'm trying to stay out of the Ub3r teer on my main team. I will create an Ub3r team, don't get me wrong, but that's for another time. ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Chicken Lord on March 26, 2009, 06:01:07 pm
This Pokemon stuff is so confusing...... ::)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on March 26, 2009, 06:09:23 pm
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Okay, there may be a few holes.
Tyranitar and Dragonite will tsay for sure, and I may sub out Metagross for someone else. But most of my pkmn would have earthquake, which takes out electivire
Yeah, and there goes your buffeter for Earthquake. :\  And Electivire was merely an example.  There are many other Physical Sweeper Pokemon out there that can learn moves like Ice Punch and Earthquake.  Take Medicham for example.
Dragonite is a flying type that can easily take out Medicham. And pkmn like that don't get STAB, which reduces the effectiveness of them.
And you said where's the fun in that a few posts ago... this team will be at the end of the game. I don't know what my team will be for the main storyline e.g. 8 gyms + elite four, but it may look like this:

Empoleon
Staraptor
Luxray
Leafeon(can you get this pre elite four?)
Rapidash
HM slave

I've got:water, steel, normal, flying, lightning, grass, and fire. plus and HM slave to put in to use a quick revive/potion of some sort. I normally don't need too many pkmn while I go through the journey. In fact, I played my bro's fire red version using only Blastoise and an HM slave. By the time I got to the elite four Blastoise was in the high 70s.

Edit: I HATE the whole Chansey trio. They are only usefull as blockers and with a well trained fighting/steel type(my fav Lucario) they are easily beat with a physical attack move such as close combat.

@CL: pkmn is confusing if you let it be. You can get through the entire game without knowing anything about stats, as the pkmn you come across early on all have decent stats. If you are really into the game then it gets confuzzeling with all the natures and such. Speaking of which, do you breed for a certain nature etc.?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 26, 2009, 07:42:03 pm
I basically Just have to wait until getting together with my friend to complete my team,and that may take a while. I need him for evolving Electabuzz.

By the time the Dsi comes out,i wil be done with the regular quest and ready to pwn him ;D.

Speaking of which:I only use Giratina as a fallback for the Elite Four,and a solution to Cynthia's Garchomp. I will fill the hole with another Pokemon.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 26, 2009, 08:40:13 pm
I'm goimg to wait a bit before I let my "core" evolve, so I can get them some good moves.

Raichu is confirmed for my team, although I'm only working on getting him at the moment. That leaves me two blank spots for others... Suggestions?
Darkrai? Dialga? Chansey? Chansey has such high defense that a LV 100 Hacked Craydilly that I made, one with every stat (HP, Def, Speed, SP Def, Atk, Sp Atk) at 999, lost to a LV 96 Chansey.
my friend once made me a LV100 shiny Misdreavus with all stats at 999 and the following moves: Psycho Boost, Shadow Ball, Meteor Mash, and Sacred Fire! but since all of those moves have low PP, she actually loses most of her battles. She is still my prize Pokemon in emerald, though.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on March 26, 2009, 10:07:26 pm
My team will be:
Tyranitar
Dragonite
Metagross
Empoleon
Leafeon
and a lightning type, either Raichu or Manectric

I can have an Ursaring w/ Avalanche and Earthquake. You don't have a Fighting Pokemon on your team, and since Ursaring has a base of 130 Attack, your team is in big trouble.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 26, 2009, 10:48:29 pm
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@DB:  I might have some suggestions for you, but I would need to see what else you're using, first.  

Heh, you name it, I'll find it. =P

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@DB:  Well, I wouldn't really call Blissey a Tank.  I would definitely call it the best Special Wall of any Pokemon, period, but not necessarily a Tank.  Its Special Attack isn't strong enough to warrant a Tank.  A BoltBeam combo or Seismic Toss can really throw a lot of Pokemon of guard, but it wouldn't warrant a Tank.

Tank was the first thing that came to mind; I really have no idea what to call it. =P

Trying to find a good Pichu to send over, ATM. Although I may have to deal with a neutral nature at this rate... >_<


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 26, 2009, 10:48:39 pm
that Hacking thing happened two years ago. now I just use my old Action Replay for experiments, such as that MissingNo starter thing that you posted. but since you wanted the battle, here is my best memory of how it ended: (Cradilly is hacked, while Chansey is normal) Cradilly used Sludge Bomb. Chansey is Poisoned. Chansey uses an attack that I can't remember. repeat until Cradilly is almost out of PP due to a large amount of misses and blocks. Chansey is still at almost full health, while Craydilly is almost down. Chansey attacks, Craydilly, attacks, Craydilly misses, Chansey hits, Craydilly faints. Sorry if it is a little vague, it did happen quite a while ago, in the Emerald Battle Frontier. I think it was in the Pyramid.

But now, as I said earlier, it seems wrong to use the AR for anything other than learning about game code. also, I never used on Pearl or Plat, nor will I.

as for the Uber teams, I am most comfortable with them, and they don't exactly beat the opponent instantly, as you imply. in fact, I still lose to powerful foes such as the Elite Four and the Frontier Brains very often!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 27, 2009, 09:42:06 am
Actually,i was hoping to face you in Plat. Figured you would get done by the Dsi's release.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on March 27, 2009, 02:36:53 pm
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@RP:  Perhaps, but I don't need STAB.  If that were so, what would I need two other attacks for?  It's all in type coverage.  STAB isn't always required.  You need to pay more attention to covering EVs, IVs, Natures, Base Stats, and actually applying the most beneficial moves to a Pokemon to suit its environment.  In all honesty, unless I come to a neutral Pokemon, I never worry about STAB or not.  Yes, it's important, but when you weigh in all of the other factors, all else is more important.  
IMO STAB is important, and since many of the pkmn on my team have fairly good defence the attacks you use will not have as much effect as you hope. Furthermore, if you use attacks that do not reflect your pkmn's type, I can as well, and I can fight back against your attacks.
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Ah, I see.  

Yes, you can get Leafeon pre-Elite Four. :)  Not in Diamond or Pearl (in-game only, anyway), but in Platinum, you can.  

If I might make a slight suggestion, you would much rather prefer to have an Infernape over a Rapidash.  Trust me, you'll be better off for it.  And Floatzel and Gastrodon also work as really good substitutes for Empoleon.  Just my two cents.  
I start with Empoleon, and as you said, importing from another game wold take away much of the fun, therefor I can't have Empoleon and Infernape. Also, Infernape is weak against flying, and psychic, which rapidash is not weak against. I like Floatzel, but I find it not quite as good as Empoleon, plus Empoleon gives me a steel type which can't be poisoned. Gastrodon is slow and I don't like it.

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Special Walls, not blockers. ;)  Blocker isn't a competitive term, but I guess I'm getting too technical here.  Anyway, the whole point of Blissey is to act as a buffeter for the team.  Its normal purpose is to hold off Pokemon that focus on Special Attack.  It also focuses on reinforcing and strengthening the team, which is why it has moves to use such as Aromatherapy.  And if a Physical Sweeper such as Lucario showed up, all you would have to do is switch out before it can do anything. (although you would have to be cautious of Pursuit)
Whatever the name may be, it does the same thing... And switching out can be done on any pkmn...

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Well, it depends.  If I'm preparing a competitive Pokemon, then yes, I breed for a specific Nature.  While some people think that its smart to always go with a Neutral Nature, that's actually a very big mistake.  Say, for example, I use a Special Sweeper.  Why, then, do I not use a Nature that can lower my Attack in return for raising my Special Attack?  The Attack stat won't be used anyway, and you can always afford to have a 10% bonus in a stat that is crucial to a Pokemon, so all competitive Pokemon should have a focused stat.  For example, I have a Gallade and an Electivire that I use for competitive purposes, both of whom are Physical Sweepers.  My Gallade, on one hand, has a Jolly Nature, which lowers his Special Attack in return for raising his Speed.  I'm not going to be using his Special Attack, and I can really use an uped Speed stat on Gallade, so I should pick an appropriate Nature for him to suit that.  Also, I have my Electivire with an Adamant Nature.  Adamant Nature increases Attack at the cost of Special Attack.  I think that one should explain itself.  

As for my normal, in-game team, I try not to worry about it, unless it absolutely hinders the Pokemon's purpose.  For example, I have two Pokemon on my team (Luxio and Monferno) who have Neutral Natures.  Surprisingly, on the first time, without actually thinking about it, it turns out that my Grotle got a good Nature, Adamant (+ATK,-SATK) to be exact.  However, I finally caught a Gligar last night, but I realized that it had a Bold Nature (+DEF,-ATK).  Defense is Gligar's/Gliscor's best stat, and I need focus to be put on Attack.  Thus, I can't accept Bold for a Nature.  Overall, though, while I do worry about Nature, when it comes to in-game Pokemon, I tend to not worry about it.
Cool. I'm not in to the game that way. I train my pkmn wherever and however and they turn out to be pretty good.  

My team will be:
Tyranitar
Dragonite
Metagross
Empoleon
Leafeon
and a lightning type, either Raichu or Manectric

I can have an Ursaring w/ Avalanche and Earthquake. You don't have a Fighting Pokemon on your team, and since Ursaring has a base of 130 Attack, your team is in big trouble.
Ursaring is not an ice type or ground type... saying that I don't have a fighting pkmn on my team means nothing and you pointed that out yourself by putting two moves that are not the same type as your pkmn in the post. I think that answers back to you pretty well.

Anywho, how about this team:
Dragonite (Drgn/Flng)
Tyranitar (Rck/Drk)
Togekiss (Nrml/Flng)
Leafeon (Grs)
Ampharos (Lghtng)
Toxicroak (Fghtng/Psn)

Yes, there is no fire or water, but I can give fire and water moves to others...



Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 27, 2009, 02:56:39 pm
Better,but Dragonite,Tyranitar and Amphoros can't be caught before beating the game.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on March 27, 2009, 03:19:00 pm
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Okay, there may be a few holes.
Tyranitar and Dragonite will tsay for sure, and I may sub out Metagross for someone else. But most of my pkmn would have earthquake, which takes out electivire
Yeah, and there goes your buffeter for Earthquake. :\  And Electivire was merely an example.  There are many other Physical Sweeper Pokemon out there that can learn moves like Ice Punch and Earthquake.  Take Medicham for example.
Dragonite is a flying type that can easily take out Medicham. And pkmn like that don't get STAB, which reduces the effectiveness of them.
And you said where's the fun in that a few posts ago... this team will be at the end of the game. I don't know what my team will be for the main storyline e.g. 8 gyms + elite four, but it may look like this:

Empoleon
Staraptor
Luxray
Leafeon(can you get this pre elite four?)
Rapidash
HM slave

I've got:water, steel, normal, flying, lightning, grass, and fire. plus and HM slave to put in to use a quick revive/potion of some sort. I normally don't need too many pkmn while I go through the journey. In fact, I played my bro's fire red version using only Blastoise and an HM slave. By the time I got to the elite four Blastoise was in the high 70s.

As I've already said before, that team is post elite four/main storyline. In the quote above is my plan for a team pre elite four(as in form the beginning).


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 27, 2009, 03:23:45 pm
Ahhhh......I see.

Looking forward to Electivire-Giga Impact at the right level.

I don't hack often in games. I haven't used my AR in months,and i don't know any other glitches.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on March 27, 2009, 04:32:51 pm
 
My team will be:
Tyranitar
Dragonite
Metagross
Empoleon
Leafeon
and a lightning type, either Raichu or Manectric

I can have an Ursaring w/ Avalanche and Earthquake. You don't have a Fighting Pokemon on your team, and since Ursaring has a base of 130 Attack, your team is in big trouble.
Ursaring is not an ice type or ground type... saying that I don't have a fighting pkmn on my team means nothing and you pointed that out yourself by putting two moves that are not the same type as your pkmn in the post. I think that answers back to you pretty well.

Anywho, how about this team:
Dragonite (Drgn/Flng)
Tyranitar (Rck/Drk)
Togekiss (Nrml/Flng)
Leafeon (Grs)
Ampharos (Lghtng)
Toxicroak (Fghtng/Psn)

Yes, there is no fire or water, but I can give fire and water moves to others...


  Your new team still has a Ice and Ground issue. Ursaring was merely just an example, there are other Pokemon that can learn an Ice and Ground moves at the same time. I'm not saying that I recommend you use a Fighting type, I'm saying that you didn't plan on putting a Fighting move on a Pokemon since you only aimed for STAB moves, in which that isn't enough. You also need moves that will take advantage of the Pokemon's weakness.
   For example, Salamence has a weakness to Rock and Ice. By teaching it Earthquake and Stone Edge, it will take advantage of its two weaknesses.
   Also, I tend to go with mixed types in a team. If you don't get what I mean, if I have a Staraptor, I would choose another Pokemon that isn't Normal or Flying, basically no repeats of a type. Just advice, not forcing you to follow what I say.
   Ah, you have a Toxicroak as your Fighting type, but if I'm assuming you use that to fight my Ursaring so you can use a Fighting move on it, I can always switch Ursaring out and get a Ground Pokemon like a Hippowdon to use Earthquake and land an OHKO. Even though it isn't fast, its high Defense and Hit Points can take a hit from Focus Punch, one of the most powerful Fighting move.

=EDIT - About the cloning glitch in Pokemon Emerald, to be safe, how often should you perform it?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 28, 2009, 08:03:44 am
The onlly reason I'm bothering wuth Giga Impact is to get rid of some of my Electric type moves.

Also,when i said I don't hack often,I meant more like rarely. And i wouldn't even think about hacking to scam you.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 28, 2009, 11:19:51 am
I don't understand the concept of an HM slave. You should distribute your HM moves to all your Pokemon.

Also,i would.those moves are good,but i  can't get them for a while. Plus,i just kinda wanna get Electivire,I'm willing to take the hit to my speed.

I am still training my Pokemon to battle Volkener. In the end i will probably just use Giratina,but i want to prepare for Victory Road.

I am basically going to spend the next week training for the Elite Four,getting most of my Pokemon to level 60ish.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on March 28, 2009, 11:38:05 am
@Mata Nui - Most HM moves are very weak when it comes to battling, so another weak Pokemon like Bibarel can carry many HM moves. Usually, HM Slaves are Pokemon that can learn many HM moves. Bibarel can learn 6, in fact, out of 8.

 I've heard somewhere that cloning more than two times a day can cause you deleted Pokemon. I'm pretty sure that every Emerald game is different, just like how we are different from another.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 28, 2009, 11:43:12 am
No, that's a lie, I had cloned around... 5 or so Rayquazas in the same day, along with possibly some of the other legends in Emerald. I just messed up the cloning directions for Latios(I'm never going from memory again >_>), and that's how it got deleted.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 28, 2009, 12:07:51 pm
cloning sounds too risky for me. though it would be nice to have a "to keep" legend and a "to trade" legend...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 28, 2009, 12:13:05 pm
What is the cloning glitch?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 28, 2009, 12:22:06 pm
If I could find the instructions I'd tell you...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 28, 2009, 12:23:55 pm
If I could find the instructions I'd tell you...
gamewinners.com has everything, if you don't mind ads.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 28, 2009, 01:16:55 pm
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The only danger there is in doing it on Emerald is if you do it incorrectly.
I'm a witness to that =P Poor Latios... He didn't even see it coming... =P

Anyone happen to have the steps again? =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on March 28, 2009, 01:51:40 pm
If I'm trying to clone objects, I use a Poochyena, 2 Ditto, a Hoothoot, a Marill, and an Oddish so that I won't risk valuable Pokemon.
I also checked YouTube for instructions.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 28, 2009, 02:02:12 pm
BT: You only need to clone something not valuable the first few times, once you get it down it's mostly easy... Except if you forget the exact instructions, then stuff will go wrong =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 28, 2009, 02:28:59 pm
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Okay, this is how it goes.  Just know that this only works on Emerald.  Even though the Battle Tower existed on Ruby and Sapphire, it won't work. 

1.)  Go to the Battle Frontier, enter the Battle Tower, and walk up to the PC on the right. 
2.)  Make sure that you have the Pokemon in your party prior to you beginning this process. 
3.)  After walking up to the PC, deposit the Pokemon you want cloned.  It doesn't matter where you put them, what order you put them in, etc.  All that matters is that you deposit them. 
4.)  Once the Pokemon are deposited, save your game. 
5.)  After the game has saved, remove all of the Pokemon that you have cloned. 
6.)  After removing them, DON'T save your game.  I don't know what happens if you do, but I assume that this will merely cancel the glitch.  If you want the glitch to procede, don't save after removing them. 
7.)  Walk up to the lady at the register for link battling (the farthest right attendent), and talk to her. 
8.)  She asks you to select two Pokemon to battle with.  Accept this.  Just pick any two Pokemon.  Again, it doesn't matter. 
9.)  She will ask if she can save your game, and if it's okay.  Say yes. 
10.)  At this point, there will be a momentary pause in your game.  Don't freak out when this happens.  This pause is the glitch occuring.  The music will continue to play, but there will be two to three seconds where you can't do anything.  Don't worry, this is normal. 
11.)  The traditional save screen will pop up.  Do NOT save at this point.  Simply turn off your game.  Don't worry, you don't need to save.  Remember, you saved when the Pokemon were in the PC, and then the pause when talking to the lady?  This is basically a split of data, making the cloned Pokemon be in two places at once.  Turning off the game finalizes it. 
12.)  Turn your game on.  You will be in front of the attendent.  Walk over to the PC.  You will find the cloned Pokemon sitting in your PC.  Then, observe your party.  The cloned Pokemon will also be there. 

That's basically how it works.  You can also do this with up to five Pokemon at a time.  Just deposit the five at the same time, save, remove all five (they can be in any order, it won't matter), and follow the normal procedures.  If you want to clone items, simply attach them to the cloned Pokemon.  I hope this helps anyone who needed to learn it.
great, thanks! I needed to find a way to clone my Rayquaza anyway!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on March 28, 2009, 02:29:13 pm
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@RP:  BT and I are trying to make a general point.  It doesn't matter what Pokemon they are, what their type is, etc.  What matters in this particular situation is the fact that there are Pokemon out there that can easily outspeed and overpower your Pokemon with attacks that can be used against you.  You're focusing too much on simple STAB, and not worrying about what REALLY matters.  Before STAB, you need to focus on EVs, Natures, IVs, Base Stats (of moves and Pokemon), counter-strategies, supercedent planning, etc.  You worry too much about a simple factor in battle that can't play that much of a role in battle.  It makes a move 150% percent of its worth, but that only works for one move, maybe two, and that's it.  And at any rate, some Pokemon have stats that work in ways that might not even allow them, with all factors considered, to reasonably use a move that gains STAB in the first place!  STAB is exactly what it stands for:  Same Type Attack Bonus.  It's a bonus in combat, and nothing more.  When you look at the grand scale of things in their importance, STAB is relatively minimal when everything is put together.  

Okay, but I can switch moves on my own team. You keep throwing out examples where you put a different type of attack on a pkmn, and I'm saying that I'm not limited to STAB moves. I can play the same game that you play and attack your team's weak point/points as well.

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@RP:  STAB can have sway and influence, but again, while it's a factor, it simply gets overshadowed by all of the other factors.  You appear to go on and on about it as if it's the most important of all of the factors in power.  On the contrary; in my opinion, while it can have an effect, you should worry much more about the above things that I've listed.  And besides, while your Pokemon have somewhat respectable Defenses, the simple fact is that the focus for them in Attack.  You could perhaps pass Metagross off as a Tank, but that's about it.  At any rate, my Pokemon are just as competitive, if not moreso, in those areas, so I don't see the point you're trying to make.  
STAB is important, and I've seen it in gameplay. Attacks are much more affective if they have STAB than if they don't. What I'm basically saying is that you can overpower my team without STAB, but you overlook the fact that I can have non STAB moves as well that can counter your pkmn.

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See, there you go again, worrying about types.  Just, for a second, think about and compare their stats.  Rapidash is horrid compared to Infernape stat-wise, and it's stats that truly make the single biggest factor in a battle, not types.  A Pokemon's type is certainly important, but if your Pokemon doesn't have well-rounded, perfected stats to build off of, your STAB-focused attacks are rendered useless.  You focus too much on simple typing and STAB, and not enough on the true competitive aspects.  
Infernape DOES NOT have well rounded stats. I'm starting with Piplup(in fact, I got the game yesterday and already have started with Piplup), so this is not important anymore. And I don't believe that Infernape could withstand much, seeing as how it has horrid defence and it does not have much HP. Empoleon is more well rounded than Infernape, so you can't say that choosing Rapidash over Infernape is a huge mistake, because Empoleon is way more equalized in stats than Infernape could ever be.

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Well, Blocker in general could mean taking any kind of attack easily.  It isn't clear.  And I'm aware that any Pokemon can switch out, I'm just making the point that I can easily evade your Fighting-type in doing so.  
I can easily evade attacks as well, then, was my point.

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Then why would you ask if it doesn't apply to you? :-\  And competitive battling calls for more than simply "being good".  The competitive battlefield calls for nothing less than perfection, and this lack of care for Natures, etc. gives me insight into your keen interest in STAB.  It almost appears to me as if it's your only true insight into the competitive playing field, which shouldn't be so.  In the grand scale of it all, STAB just isn't everything, plain as that.  
I was just interested. If you don't care for STAB your pkmn won't be able to land good hits... You'll never be able to tell which of us is better because I don't have wi-fi and I believe you don't either, so we can't test out which of us has a better team. You would most likely have better stats than my pkmn, but since we'd be using different pkmn I'm not sure what would happen.


As for me in Platinum, I beat Wake(yeah, I'm probably playing too much) and am on my way to Celestial town. I'm gonna have to boot Staravia out of the team because as it is my team's already lagging behind in level compared to what I have to battle. My team stands like this currently:

Prinplup (lv31)
Leafeon (lv34)
Luxray (lv31)
Ponyta (lv32)

Staravia (lv29) -gonna leave it behind
HM Slave(Tropius lv28)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 28, 2009, 02:31:00 pm
where are you in Plat? I just kicked Saturn out of the Galactic HQ and am heading to MT Coronet.
(I still can't believe that a Torterra could beat the Snowpoint Gym Leader)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 28, 2009, 02:34:30 pm
... Wait, you don't start saving then turn it off? ... That's probably where I went wrong, unless I did that and did it wrong or something xD

I'm just about to get to Canalave, I just wanted to get my levels back up, since I was starting to go fast.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 28, 2009, 02:38:13 pm
... Wait, you don't start saving then turn it off? ... That's probably where I went wrong, unless I did that and did it wrong or something xD

I'm just about to get to Canalave, I just wanted to get my levels back up, since I was starting to go fast.
careful, that's where your rival ambushes you! be sure to heal before crossing the bridge!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 28, 2009, 02:45:32 pm
Oh. Well, it's a good thing I- Wait, the bridge in Canalave? Oh, I've got a lot of stuff to do before that anyway =P And what are his levels again, my Torterra's around level 45 and the rest are approaching/are level 40(I tried to keep it mostly equal... Found it was somewhat better to have Torterra 5 levels above for some reason though.)

... I think my Pokemon are higher leveled from the point I'm at than they were in D/P at the same point... 0_o


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 28, 2009, 02:47:18 pm

I am beginning to regret choosing Torterra-he loses way more than my Empolion in Pearl ever did.
oh well, at least the EXP Share I gave my Vaporion is working.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 28, 2009, 03:00:26 pm
The only reason he's lost is I went more than I should have, when I didn't have any revives and such. Plus, he'll be better to use against the electric gym =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 28, 2009, 03:10:50 pm
The only reason he's lost is I went more than I should have, when I didn't have any revives and such. Plus, he'll be better to use against the electric gym =P
my torterra loses all the time.  :(


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on March 28, 2009, 05:58:25 pm
I'm in the Canalave gym ATM. My pokemon are lower levels than yours Blade, so you should have no prob with your rival.

Empoleon lv 39: Surf, Brine, Aqua Jet, Metal Claw
Leafeon lv 37: Grass Knot, Synthesis, Magical Leaf, Quick Attack
Ponyta lv 35: Flame Wheel, Ember, Take Down, Stomp
Luxray lv 35: Thunder Fang, Spark, Bite, Tackle

Those are the only ones I'm using now.

BTW, which evolution did you guys use for Eevee?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 28, 2009, 06:13:05 pm
 I used Vaporeon. Working nicely. Got inspired by An Eevee-loving friend.

At the moment,as i type,i am surfing towards Voictory Road. My Pokemon are all level 48,although Giratina and Electabuzz are getting close to 49. What will happen is i will spend the next week beefing up to around level 60,then pwn the Elite Four. Teir Pokemon are tougher atack-wise,so i will need to be careful. For example,Lucian now has a level 59 Gallade(have a guidebook).

So...do you guys think i shuld wait to beat the Elite Four until I evolve Electabuzz,or just go along with him? I mean,i want to hang on to the higher speed as long as i can.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 28, 2009, 06:30:35 pm
I used Vaporeon. Working nicely. Got inspired by An Eevee-loving friend.

At the moment,as i type,i am surfing towards Voictory Road. My Pokemon are all level 48,although Giratina and Electabuzz are getting close to 49. What will happen is i will spend the next week beefing up to around level 60,then pwn the Elite Four. Teir Pokemon are tougher atack-wise,so i will need to be careful. For example,Lucian now has a level 59 Gallade(have a guidebook).

So...do you guys think i shuld wait to beat the Elite Four until I evolve Electabuzz,or just go along with him? I mean,i want to hang on to the higher speed as long as i can.
Electabuzz needs a trade to evolve. Give it a electrizer, trade it, and trade it back. that is the only way to get an Electivire. sorry.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 28, 2009, 06:33:04 pm
Oh,i know that,i just need to wait to either get together with my friend or wait for the Dsi,both of which are at least a week away. In fact,my Electabuzz is holding an Electrizer rigt now,i stopped playing because i got a red light and i am to lazy to go get the charger.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 28, 2009, 06:37:56 pm
Oh,i know that,i just need to wait to either get together with my friend or wait for the Dsi,both of which are at least a week away. In fact,my Electabuzz is holding an Electrizer rigt now,i stopped playing because i got a red light and i am to lazy to go get the charger.
actually, if you enter the code BA16-X4SH-E2AT in self-introduction, you can send an Electivire to Plat from your Wii!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 28, 2009, 06:39:22 pm
Do i need pokemon battle revolution? I traded it in at gamestop.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 28, 2009, 06:41:48 pm
Do i need pokemon battle revolution? I traded it in at gamestop.
yup. sorry. wait a minute... I have a spare Electivire in Pearl! PM me your friend code and I'll send it to you!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 28, 2009, 06:43:15 pm
Remember? I don't have the right computer security for wi-fi.....I will when i get the Dsi,though.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 28, 2009, 06:43:58 pm
Remember? I don't have the right computer security for wi-fi.....I will when i get the Dsi,though.
oh yeah... sorry!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 28, 2009, 07:07:15 pm
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@herochild:  Torterra is a very good Pokemon.  You just have to know how to use him correctly.  Be sure to definitely beef up his Attack.  Torterra is the perfect example of a Tank.  His offensive and defensive capabilities are really good, but he's slow as crud.  I find a moveset spread of Wood Hammer, Synthesis/Leech Seed, Stone Edge, and Earthquake to do well with Torterra.
where do I learn Wood Hammer?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 28, 2009, 07:14:46 pm
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You know the Move Relearner in Pastoria City?  Go to him with a Heart Scale, and ask him to reteach a move to Torterra.  At the very top, you'll see Wood Hammer.  This is the only way for Torterra to learn Wood Hammer, and Turtwig and Grotle are incapable of learning Wood Hammer.  This is a special deal just for Torterra. ;)
well, I am battling Cyrus in the Distortion World now, so I guess that will have to wait-especially as I haven't dug up a single heart scale yet. next to fossils and plates, heart scales are the rarest items in the Underground!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 28, 2009, 07:33:52 pm
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You know the Move Relearner in Pastoria City?  Go to him with a Heart Scale, and ask him to reteach a move to Torterra.  At the very top, you'll see Wood Hammer.  This is the only way for Torterra to learn Wood Hammer, and Turtwig and Grotle are incapable of learning Wood Hammer.  This is a special deal just for Torterra. ;)
well, I am battling Cyrus in the Distortion World now, so I guess that will have to wait-especially as I haven't dug up a single heart scale yet. next to fossils and plates, heart scales are the rarest items in the Underground!
Hmm...I don't really think so.  I think that at least Pale Spheres are harder to come by.  I've found dozens and dozens of Heart Scales in the Underground on my Diamond version. :-\
pale spheres? never heard  of them! (just kidding, I have four in Pearl).


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 28, 2009, 09:06:06 pm
Prism spheres are hard to come by in my Pearl version... But Heart Scales, I have.

Except in Platinum. ::) Speaking of which, did you say you had possible suggestions for my last two team slots?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 28, 2009, 10:27:35 pm
Plat is addicting! I am at the Sunnyshore Gym, about to face the Leader, and don't want to stop playing!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 29, 2009, 09:06:58 am
I know! I keep tellling myself i will stop,but i never do! I have gotten 3 red lights in the past four days.

Also,you can get heart scales from the guy in Solacean town who runs the newspaper. Bring him a Pokemon he wants every day and he will give you a heart scale and three of a type of Poke ball. I would help him a lot,my friend once got 3 MASTER BALLS from him.

Just FYI,if you can't find him,he is right next to the Pokemon Center.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 29, 2009, 10:00:04 am
Your friend is lying. I have the guidebook, and it says that he'll give out any kind of ball except Master Balls and Premiere Balls. ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 29, 2009, 10:32:59 am
Your friend is lying. I have the guidebook, and it says that he'll give out any kind of ball except Master Balls and Premiere Balls. ;)
if your friend DID get three master balls, it was from the lottery or a cloning glitch, not that man.
EDIT: if you want to unlock extra backgrounds for your PC boxes, go to: http://www.filb.de/games/nds/pt/box


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on March 29, 2009, 02:51:50 pm
okay, I'll be waiting :P

And about the Eeveelutions, I chose Leafeon 'cause I has a fire pkmn already.

Update:
Empoleon lv40
Leafeon lv39
Rapidash lv41
Luxray lv41

Rapidash is gonna get way stronger because of Snowpoint gym that I'm heading for right now, and then I'll use Empoleon and Luxray to wipe the floor on Team G. Leafeon will be focused on at gym numero 8, and then I'll go train at Iron Island/Fuego Ironworks/Victory Road or randomly if I need to before the E4. I'll add Giratina to my team just so that I have a 5th pkmn for the E4.

BTW, how is Giratina pronounced, namely the G? Is the G like in Game or like in Generation?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 29, 2009, 04:40:07 pm
@RP: Giratinas name is pronounced Gear-Uh-Teena, according to the movie Giratina and the Sky Warrior.
@anyone: I am about to take on the Elite Four in Plat, any tips?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 29, 2009, 05:16:40 pm
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@herochild:  I've known about those for awhile, considering I put them on my Diamond version.  However, the site closed down for awhile the last time I saw it, which was last June, so it's nice to know that it's back up. :)  Thanks for providing that for others.
plus, they added a new background today! so far there is a Origin Giratina one and a Contest one (added this morning).


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 29, 2009, 05:36:42 pm
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Yep.  If it follows normal standards alongside Diamond and Pearl, there should be eight. :) 

Are you going to consider my advice, or are you just going to go on?  I'm just curious.  You can make of my advice what you want, I don't care. :)
I am really bad at manipulating EVs.  :'(
I can't take your advice because I don't know how to.  :'(


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 29, 2009, 05:44:11 pm
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Well, if you needed me to, I could teach you how to understand and control EVs. :)  It actually isn't as complicated as it seems.  Of all of the factors to make the perfect Pokemon, not only is it the biggest and most important, but it's also the least time consuming, if youIn fact, I've only been as understanding about the metagame as I am since last June.  Before that point, I understood just as much about it as you do. :)  It just takes a little bit of practice, and you'll have it down in no time. :)
could you PM me the basics?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on March 29, 2009, 07:40:22 pm
I have a Milotic with 31 IVs in Sp. Attack. Can anyone give me tips for a moveset like this:

~Surf
~Ice Beam
~Mirror Coat
~Recover
4 HP/252 Def/252 Sp. Attack

Also, can anyone answer these questions:
 - Is Milotic a good Pokemon for competitive battling?
 - What are its pros and cons?
 - If my EVs are inefficient, what is a good EV spread for my Milotic?
 - If my prototype moveset is insufficient, what is a good moveset for my Milotic?
 - What tier is Milotic in?



Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 29, 2009, 10:09:49 pm
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@DB:  Yes, I do.  I just need to know what else you want to use, first. :)
Well, I'm working on the last evolutions of the three starters ATM. I'm also working on getting a Pichu up to speed with them, along with gtting it evolved into Pikachu. Although I'm going to hold off on turning it into Raichu until I get it leveled up.

In other words, I have the following types covered:

Grass
Ground
Fire
Fighting
Water
Steel
Electric

Other than that, I'm dragging two HM slaves, both of which I would gladly trade for team members. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on March 29, 2009, 10:24:57 pm
Unfortunately, I migrated my Feebas from Emerald with high quality Pokeblocks that I can only get from the Pokeblock Master, so I'll have to go with another move that does not involve breeding.  :-\         
Any other moves?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 29, 2009, 10:54:25 pm
Garchomp is Ub3r? No wonder he annoys me when I face him. =P

I'll dig through the Sinnoh Dex for a powerhouse or two, then. I'll yet you know what I might find.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on March 30, 2009, 03:17:17 pm
Okay, Leafeon kinda fell behind during the Snowpoint gym and the Galactic fight, so its now only lv 43, while Empoleon and Rapidash are lv 47, and Luxray is lv 48. I have Giratina, but it is currently in Other Forme, which I dislike. That means I have room for two other pkmn to sub in. I'm not sure what to use, although I think Rhydon/Rhyperior would work well, seeing as how it would add tw more types to my arsenal.

Thanks for replying to the Giratina thing BTW... I don't like that pronuciation tho.

And where do I find the item to evolve Electabuzz? I got the Magmarised, Reaper Cloth, and both Porygon upgrades but I'm missing the electric thingy.

The 8th gym is currently really annoying, but that probably has something to do with my team's lacking in ability to fight off electric moves...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 30, 2009, 03:20:27 pm
Okay, Leafeon kinda fell behind during the Snowpoint gym and the Galactic fight, so its now only lv 43, while Empoleon and Rapidash are lv 47, and Luxray is lv 48. I have Giratina, but it is currently in Other Forme, which I dislike. That means I have room for two other pkmn to sub in. I'm not sure what to use, although I think Rhydon/Rhyperior would work well, seeing as how it would add tw more types to my arsenal.

Thanks for replying to the Giratina thing BTW... I don't like that pronuciation tho.

And where do I find the item to evolve Electabuzz? I got the Magmarised, Reaper Cloth, and both Porygon upgrades but I'm missing the electric thingy.

The 8th gym is currently really annoying, but that probably has something to do with my team's lacking in ability to fight off electric moves...
just get a single rock type move-it'll KO them. or, just use rock smash, though it isn't that great.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 30, 2009, 03:54:03 pm
...You're thinking of Ground-type moves, Herochild. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 30, 2009, 04:20:46 pm
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@herochild and @DB:  Not to mention that Rock Smash is a completely different type all together, being that of the Fighting-type.
yeah, but I beat the entire gym using only Rock Smash.
oh, and Dudebot? both Rock and Ground type moves beat Electric.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 30, 2009, 04:41:49 pm
It... Should be impossible to beat a gym of that level using only Rock Smash... Right? 0_o


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 30, 2009, 04:56:04 pm
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The base power of Rock Smash is a mesely 40.  I don't see how you could win everything with just Rock Smash.
that gyms pokemon are weak against grass and don't effect ground, so they didn't do a thing to my Torterra, giving me lots of time for free hits. though I did get Paralyzed a lot....


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 30, 2009, 05:10:01 pm
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I'm assuming that you mean that Electric doesn't do much to Grass, right? 

I don't see why you would resort to having Torterra use Rock Smash there.  You should have just had him use Earthquake and rip the opposition apart. :-\
I accidentally deleted earthquake and don't have any heart scales to relearn it.  :'( :'( :'(


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on March 30, 2009, 05:22:00 pm
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@RP:  I still insist that Rapidash is inferior to Infernape.  It takes a reasonably good trainer to know how to use him properly, so one can't really say that he's weak without being fully involved in the metagame. 

And Rhyperior is really up in the air.  I'll definitely agree that it has outstanding HP, Attack, and Defense, but if I get a Special Sweeper out onto the field that has a super-effective attack, your Rhyperior is left wide open.  Now, I'll give that it does have Solid Rock, but it has such crippled Special Defense and Speed that it can be moved right around.  Just keep an eye on those two stats, and you should be fine. 

And again, I personally think you worry too much about simple typing and STAB.  Just focus on the movesets, stats, and strategies, and then worry about the little things like that.  The other things I've thrown out there are more important. 

And as for your tough time with the eighth Gym, use a Ground-type Pokemon, particularly one with Earthquake.  That can help take care of many of your problems.
Well, I pulled out Giratina from my PC and beat the 8th gym. On my way to victory road I got Leafeon back up to speed, since he's now lv 46.
And, where do you find the electrizer or whatever evolves electabuz?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 30, 2009, 05:32:01 pm
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Well, if I could access Wi-Fi at the moment, I would consider trading some over to you, but I don't have access at the moment, so I can't. :-\  Sorry.
its fine. I'll just focus on leveling up for the Elite 4 (or really, 5). the last time your rival battles you (right before the E4) is probably the easiest! (yes, I know about the battle frontier battles, but I am just talking about the story mode)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 30, 2009, 08:20:31 pm
And, where do you find the electrizer or whatever evolves electabuz?
Apparently you can get one at Valley Windworks after Pastoria. 0_o

Might want to make sure you pick a good nature, etc. since you'd have to get one off a wild Elekid or Electabuzz otherwise. ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 30, 2009, 09:15:33 pm
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For an Electivire, I would go with a standard Physical Sweeper.  Go with an Adamant Nature, and give it 252 ATK/252 SPD/4 HP.  That's usually the way to go with a good Electivire. ;) 

@herochild:  Beefing up a Pokemon's level isn't necessarily a bad thing.  I'm just saying that maneuvering of EVs could be beneficial, but by no means do you have to do it that way.  I just see it as an easier way to get done faster. ;)
trust me, I need to level up. I lost to the first elite four guy, the bug one.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 30, 2009, 10:01:10 pm
Speaking of which,could you explain the basics of EV manupliation, if you get some time? I understand whet you guys are talking about, but I don't know how to do this myself. ::)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on March 30, 2009, 10:55:58 pm
To aid EV training, there are several EV training hotspots for your Pokemon.

Type of EV you want to gain to your PokemonPlaces of EV Training EV Value per Pokemon
HP-Trainer w/ Bidoof at Route 209, right by the muddy slope for bike.1 HP EV per Bidoof.
Attack- Fish at any of the three Legendary lakes with Super Rod.2 Atck. EVs per Gyarados/Seaking.
Defense- Ruin Maniac Cave.1 EV per Geodude/Hippopotas
Sp. Attack-Old Chateau/ Three Legendary lakes by Surfing.1 Sp. A EV per Gastly/Psyduck, 2 Sp. A EVs per Golduck/Haunter, 3 Sp. A EVs per Gengar
Sp. Defense-Tentacool at almost anywhere you Surf.1  SP. Def EV per Tentacool.
Speed-Route 225/226, preferably Route 226 for Diamond players as to avoid Memento Skuntanks.1 EV per Spearow/Rattata, 2 EVs per Fearow/Raticate

Somewhere sandwiched in the topic is another general description of EVs, in case you forgot what EVs were. I supply to you the EV training chart, which can really help.

Also, it is REALLY important that you keep track of your EVs. Once tiny change could mean a BIG stat difference.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 31, 2009, 08:01:19 am
Thanks,that is helpful.

Began training for Elite Four. Here is my goal against my current stats:

Current                            Goal
Infernape-lv 51                  Infernape-lv 60
Gardevoir-lv 49                  Gardevoir-lv 59
Electabuzz-lv 50                 Electabuzz-lv 59
Vaporeon-lv 50                   Vaporeon-lv 59
Togekiss-lv 50                   Togekiss-lv 59
Giratina-lv 49                     Giratina-lv 57

 


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on March 31, 2009, 02:11:26 pm
And, where do you find the electrizer or whatever evolves electabuz?
Apparently you can get one at Valley Windworks after Pastoria. 0_o

Might want to make sure you pick a good nature, etc. since you'd have to get one off a wild Elekid or Electabuzz otherwise. ;)
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For an Electivire, I would go with a standard Physical Sweeper.  Go with an Adamant Nature, and give it 252 ATK/252 SPD/4 HP.  That's usually the way to go with a good Electivire. ;) 

EDIT: got it, as well as Thunderbolt the tm. I'm currently standing infront of Flint in the E4 prepared to lose. Empoleon is my only hope against Flint, and Fire actually affects hhim due to his Stell type  :-\  Leafeon will be no good, and I've got no ground types to fight with.

Current team update:
Empoleon lv 54
Leafeon lv 52
Luxray lv 54
Rapidash lv 53
Giratina lv 47...

When I lose against Flint I'll try to train a Rhydon, Magmar and Electabuzz to be high level 40s and retry the E4 with Rhydon in my team...

And how would this team work out(eventually, as in post E4):

Electivire (lghtng)
Honchcrow (drk/flyng)
Leafeon (grs)
Magmortar(fire)
*Milotic/Floatzel (wtr)
**Dragonite/Salamance (drgn/flyng) or Rhyperior (rck/grnd)

*Not sure about which ones to use here. Milotic if I can get it, although I'll probably end up w/ Floatzel or another water type that I've overlooked.
** Okay, the choice is between Dragon or Rock type to complete my team. And with Dragon its between a powerhouse on attack but lacking in Speed(Dragonite) or one with more speed but less power, and doesn't learn Outrage(Salamance).
I was thinking about putting Tyranitar in, but I've got a dark type already. If you have anything to say about my team say it, and you can sub out some pkmn, but try to keep the types the same, or give suggestions on what to put in instead...


Thanks guys. And I may look for an adamant nature, but I probably won't do EV training just yet(although you never know...)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 31, 2009, 06:51:28 pm
Let's see...


B~T's Guide to EV training (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.msg99091.html#msg99091)
B~T's guide to IVs (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.msg80975.html#msg80975)

Anything else I should add/worry about?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on March 31, 2009, 08:22:22 pm
@RP - For your Pre-E4 team, your Pokemon team still has a Ground issue. Try getting a Flying type like Staraptor/Altaria/etc. as to avoid Ground attacks. You could try Garchomp for a spin, as it is legitimate Pre-E4, however is banned in competitive play*. I wouldn't suggest Rhyperior will only add to your Ground weakness, but if you really want it, get a Protector and another DS and friend so it'll evolve into a Rhyperior, which has tremendous Attack/Defense/HP, but try to avoid Special Sweepers. But a Rhydo would be Okay too. Instead, try Hippowdon out.
   These are my suggestions, so if you don't want to follow them, you don't have to.  

* In early D/P play, Garchomp was preferred by many players since it was a powerhouse in almost every stat. However, since it was so powerful it swept through many teams, it was moved to the Uber tier. Flygon, who sat in the shadows of Garchomp,regained popularity and is now OU since it is the only Ground/Dragon type left. Other than Attack and Speed, its other stats are not so hot, but has a versatile movepool.

@DB - Natures are important as well.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 31, 2009, 08:42:57 pm
Of course... Natures. While I think I know the basics of how they work, could you go over how they work out in the grand scheme of things briefly?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 31, 2009, 10:09:58 pm
That expands my knowledge quite nicely. It also means that I might want to re-create my team after I finish the game, if you get what I mean. =P

How would one go about getting good stats for Legendaries? The "save->fight->catch->turnsoutbadsoyouturnoffthegam etotryagain" method?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 31, 2009, 11:03:13 pm
That expands my knowledge quite nicely. It also means that I might want to re-create my team after I finish the game, if you get what I mean. =P

How would one go about getting good stats for Legendaries? The "save->fight->catch->turnsoutbadsoyouturnoffthegam etotryagain" method?
that's how I do it.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on April 01, 2009, 05:35:01 am
That's what I meant; Nature wise. ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on April 01, 2009, 03:00:18 pm
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I just realized that RP is ZLS. XD  I'll start calling you ZLS from now on, okay?  I usually refer to people by the name I've come to know them by. :)
lol, I'll respond to either...

Okay, what nature(s) should I try for for the following pkmn:
Electivire
Magmortar
Rhyperior

And I've recently seen the one absolutely horrible thing about my Rapidash: it's defence is the worst of my entire team and it can't take a big hit...
And to train for the E4 I decided on a reckless and costly method. I keep only Rapidash and Leafeon in my party and go from there. It did have some effect. Rapidash is now level 61 and can easily take out Aaron, Flint and the psychic guy, with Leafeon being used as a wall of some sort so I can revive/heal Rapidash as necessary. Sadly this method won't work very well with Empoleon and Luxray as they can't use super effective and STAB moves against the first two E4 people and Luxray can't do much else...

Anywho, I have the stuff to evolve Magmar, Electabuzz, Rhydon, Porygon(x2). Where can I find a Murkrow? or do I need a diamond version to trade it from?
@RP - For your Pre-E4 team, your Pokemon team still has a Ground issue. Try getting a Flying type like Staraptor/Altaria/etc. as to avoid Ground attacks. You could try Garchomp for a spin, as it is legitimate Pre-E4, however is banned in competitive play*. I wouldn't suggest Rhyperior will only add to your Ground weakness, but if you really want it, get a Protector and another DS and friend so it'll evolve into a Rhyperior, which has tremendous Attack/Defense/HP, but try to avoid Special Sweepers. But a Rhydo would be Okay too. Instead, try Hippowdon out.
   These are my suggestions, so if you don't want to follow them, you don't have to.  

* In early D/P play, Garchomp was preferred by many players since it was a powerhouse in almost every stat. However, since it was so powerful it swept through many teams, it was moved to the Uber tier. Flygon, who sat in the shadows of Garchomp,regained popularity and is now OU since it is the only Ground/Dragon type left. Other than Attack and Speed, its other stats are not so hot, but has a versatile movepool.
Thanks. I'll think about this and if I can find a hippodon I may use it.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on April 01, 2009, 03:40:33 pm
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I just realized that RP is ZLS. XD  I'll start calling you ZLS from now on, okay?  I usually refer to people by the name I've come to know them by. :)
lol, I'll respond to either...

Okay, what nature(s) should I try for for the following pkmn:
Electivire
Magmortar
Rhyperior

And I've recently seen the one absolutely horrible thing about my Rapidash: it's defence is the worst of my entire team and it can't take a big hit...
And to train for the E4 I decided on a reckless and costly method. I keep only Rapidash and Leafeon in my party and go from there. It did have some effect. Rapidash is now level 61 and can easily take out Aaron, Flint and the psychic guy, with Leafeon being used as a wall of some sort so I can revive/heal Rapidash as necessary. Sadly this method won't work very well with Empoleon and Luxray as they can't use super effective and STAB moves against the first two E4 people and Luxray can't do much else...

Anywho, I have the stuff to evolve Magmar, Electabuzz, Rhydon, Porygon(x2). Where can I find a Murkrow? or do I need a diamond version to trade it from?
@RP - For your Pre-E4 team, your Pokemon team still has a Ground issue. Try getting a Flying type like Staraptor/Altaria/etc. as to avoid Ground attacks. You could try Garchomp for a spin, as it is legitimate Pre-E4, however is banned in competitive play*. I wouldn't suggest Rhyperior will only add to your Ground weakness, but if you really want it, get a Protector and another DS and friend so it'll evolve into a Rhyperior, which has tremendous Attack/Defense/HP, but try to avoid Special Sweepers. But a Rhydo would be Okay too. Instead, try Hippowdon out.
   These are my suggestions, so if you don't want to follow them, you don't have to.  

* In early D/P play, Garchomp was preferred by many players since it was a powerhouse in almost every stat. However, since it was so powerful it swept through many teams, it was moved to the Uber tier. Flygon, who sat in the shadows of Garchomp,regained popularity and is now OU since it is the only Ground/Dragon type left. Other than Attack and Speed, its other stats are not so hot, but has a versatile movepool.
Thanks. I'll think about this and if I can find a hippodon I may use it.

Murkrow, Misdreavus, Stunky, and Glameow aren't available in Platinum. You need to trade it from FRLG/DP in order to get them. I'd rather you save the evolving objects for a better Pokemon.

If you want a Hippowdon, you have to go to the Ruin Maniac's cave for Hippopotas. They only appear 5% of the time if you don't catch Unown. Just catch 10 Unown so that your encounter rate with Hippopotas will increase to 10%, along with a bigger cave. IF you caught all the Unown, Hippopotas will appear 20% of the time.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on April 01, 2009, 05:40:15 pm
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I just realized that RP is ZLS. XD  I'll start calling you ZLS from now on, okay?  I usually refer to people by the name I've come to know them by. :)
lol, I'll respond to either...

Okay, what nature(s) should I try for for the following pkmn:
Electivire
Magmortar
Rhyperior

And I've recently seen the one absolutely horrible thing about my Rapidash: it's defence is the worst of my entire team and it can't take a big hit...
And to train for the E4 I decided on a reckless and costly method. I keep only Rapidash and Leafeon in my party and go from there. It did have some effect. Rapidash is now level 61 and can easily take out Aaron, Flint and the psychic guy, with Leafeon being used as a wall of some sort so I can revive/heal Rapidash as necessary. Sadly this method won't work very well with Empoleon and Luxray as they can't use super effective and STAB moves against the first two E4 people and Luxray can't do much else...

Anywho, I have the stuff to evolve Magmar, Electabuzz, Rhydon, Porygon(x2). Where can I find a Murkrow? or do I need a diamond version to trade it from?
@RP - For your Pre-E4 team, your Pokemon team still has a Ground issue. Try getting a Flying type like Staraptor/Altaria/etc. as to avoid Ground attacks. You could try Garchomp for a spin, as it is legitimate Pre-E4, however is banned in competitive play*. I wouldn't suggest Rhyperior will only add to your Ground weakness, but if you really want it, get a Protector and another DS and friend so it'll evolve into a Rhyperior, which has tremendous Attack/Defense/HP, but try to avoid Special Sweepers. But a Rhydo would be Okay too. Instead, try Hippowdon out.
   These are my suggestions, so if you don't want to follow them, you don't have to.  

* In early D/P play, Garchomp was preferred by many players since it was a powerhouse in almost every stat. However, since it was so powerful it swept through many teams, it was moved to the Uber tier. Flygon, who sat in the shadows of Garchomp,regained popularity and is now OU since it is the only Ground/Dragon type left. Other than Attack and Speed, its other stats are not so hot, but has a versatile movepool.
Thanks. I'll think about this and if I can find a hippodon I may use it.

Murkrow, Misdreavus, Stunky, and Glameow aren't available in Platinum. You need to trade it from FRLG/DP in order to get them. I'd rather you save the evolving objects for a better Pokemon.

If you want a Hippowdon, you have to go to the Ruin Maniac's cave for Hippopotas. They only appear 5% of the time if you don't catch Unown. Just catch 10 Unown so that your encounter rate with Hippopotas will increase to 10%, along with a bigger cave. IF you caught all the Unown, Hippopotas will appear 20% of the time.
Thanks, or I could trade one in from my pearl. On the Murkrow matter, that is bad, cause my brother recently "misplaced" his diamond version... which means I'm gonna have to go in search of it. He also said I could have it, though I'm pretty sure he was joking... I can get the other three from Pearl version tho...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on April 02, 2009, 11:25:00 am
Electivire has a base speed of 95,whereas Electabuzz has a base speed of 105.

Done training Infernape,on to Vaporeon....


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on April 02, 2009, 11:35:38 am
Using only Leafeon, Empoleon and Rapidash I beat two of Cynthia's pkmn. Garchomp is gonna be really hard to beat since I don't have an ice type, and since Empoleon and Rapidash can barely hit Garchomp(rapidash has no good moves to use against Garchomp and Empoleon is too slow...)
I need to train Leafeon a lot more so it can take out Garchomp... or train Giratina...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on April 02, 2009, 12:26:22 pm
Using only Leafeon, Empoleon and Rapidash I beat two of Cynthia's pkmn. Garchomp is gonna be really hard to beat since I don't have an ice type, and since Empoleon and Rapidash can barely hit Garchomp(rapidash has no good moves to use against Garchomp and Empoleon is too slow...)
I need to train Leafeon a lot more so it can take out Garchomp... or train Giratina...
I'm still on the bug guy.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on April 02, 2009, 12:31:30 pm
I haven't attempted yet,but i am sure i would cream the Bug guy. I am currently filling anything i missed in the "seen" category of my Pokedex,so when i record all the Pokemon the Elite Four have,my Pokedex will be full and i can upgrade immediatly. I have everyone but Azelf,who i am attempting to catch as i type. I got lucky with Uxie,not so  much here....


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on April 02, 2009, 12:33:13 pm
I haven't attempted yet,but i am sure i would cream the Bug guy. I am currently filling anything i missed in the "seen" category of my Pokedex,so when i record all the Pokemon the Elite Four have,my Pokedex will be full and i can upgrade immediatly. I have everyone but Azelf,who i am attempting to catch as i type. I got lucky with Uxie,not so  much here....
that's what I'm doing now, too. Azelf will not let me catch him. I got him so far into the red that he was almost down, used an ultra ball, and he still got away! :'(


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on April 02, 2009, 12:37:28 pm
I have like 25 Ultra balls,his HP is below 10,and i can't do anything!!!!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on April 02, 2009, 02:00:26 pm
I still need to see 7 pkmn. Togekiss, Rotom(i think) Uxie, Feebas(where do I see one?) Monferno(again, where do I see one?) Umbreon(same as previous two) and Swinub(again, where is it?)

The Bug Guy(Aaron) is really easy if you have a fire pkmn. The groud woman is easy too, especially since my Leafeon knows Grass Knot, since most of her pkmn are heavy. Flint is somewhat difficult because Empoleon is slow and can't attack the fire pkmn first, and since fire actually hurts Empoleon... The psychic guy is pretty easy, other than Gallade, which takes some time to work at. Alazkazam has no defence, so Rapidash can beat him OHKO using Flare Blitz. Cynthia is hard simply because of Garchomp. Everything else should b easy.

Leafeon lv 57
Rapidash lv 63
Empoleon lv 57


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on April 02, 2009, 02:30:25 pm
I haven't attempted yet,but i am sure i would cream the Bug guy. I am currently filling anything i missed in the "seen" category of my Pokedex,so when i record all the Pokemon the Elite Four have,my Pokedex will be full and i can upgrade immediatly. I have everyone but Azelf,who i am attempting to catch as i type. I got lucky with Uxie,not so  much here....
that's what I'm doing now, too. Azelf will not let me catch him. I got him so far into the red that he was almost down, used an ultra ball, and he still got away! :'(

Azelf has a capture rate of 3, so catching it is still a pain even though it has a sliver of HP left.
Dialga/Palkia is very easy of a capture rate of 30, which is the capture rate of a Chatot and Chansey. This number is ridiculously high for a legendary.
However, in Platinum, Giratina has a capture rate of 3, so it'll be a challenge to catch.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on April 02, 2009, 02:31:36 pm
I haven't attempted yet,but i am sure i would cream the Bug guy. I am currently filling anything i missed in the "seen" category of my Pokedex,so when i record all the Pokemon the Elite Four have,my Pokedex will be full and i can upgrade immediatly. I have everyone but Azelf,who i am attempting to catch as i type. I got lucky with Uxie,not so  much here....
that's what I'm doing now, too. Azelf will not let me catch him. I got him so far into the red that he was almost down, used an ultra ball, and he still got away! :'(

Azelf has a capture rate of 3, so catching it is still a pain even though it has a sliver of HP left.
Dialga/Palkia is very easy of a capture rate of 30, which is the capture rate of a Chatot and Chansey. This number is ridiculously high for a legendary.
However, in Platinum, Giratina has a capture rate of 3, so it'll be a challenge to catch.
yeah, I had to use a master ball on giratina.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on April 02, 2009, 02:35:13 pm
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@BT:  Oh, I see.  I'll have to think about that one for a second.  

And as to what I was saying earlier, I'd like to make some slight changes.  My knowledge about Milotic is a little rusty, so I went to check up on it for this discussion.  Milotic's Special Attack is definitely above average, and its HP isn't horrible, either.  It's Defense can actually be quite solid, should it be executed in the right way.  Its base stat is kind of shakey, but with the right Nature (I would hope you have Bold, but I don't know), and the right EV application, as well as good IVs, it can actually turn out to be okay.  And with Marvel Scale, Milotic walking in on something like Toxic, Thunder Wave, or Will-O-Wisp isn't without benefit, although you have to tread carefully with Toxic.  In all reality, it's really the Speed that is its downfall.  You're all ready putting effort into its Defense, which is good.  Its Special Attack and Special Defense are good and are taken care of.  I would definitely suggest, having read over it some more, putting the other 252 EVs into either Speed or HP.  Everything else will be taken care of.  Sadly, Milotic's Speed is possibly low enough in base to the point where it may not be worth attempting to recover, so I would definitely suggest attempting to make it one big Tank.  However, Speed is still a viable option.  I would put it in one of those two for sure.  I would reccommend HP to make it completely sound, but it's up to you.  

Hmm...The last move is a toughie.  Hypnosis is usually a big one with Milotic, but I guess that's out of the question. :-\  Well, I suppose Toxic is always a viable option.  It can certainly wear down on opponents that Milotic would have difficulty dealing with, particularly opposing Water-types.  And you know, if you wanted to toy with your opponents, you could just shift things up completely and go with a ReSTalk Milotic.  The Sleep factor would raise its Defense, and it could constantly keep its HP up.  ReSTalk Milotic is, in my opinion, the best method for a Tank, if that's what you're going for.  If you don't want to change things from the method you've listed, and if you're looking to make it a team-support Pokemon, you can also incorporate Light Screen into your movepool.  It'll give your Pokemon some defense from the kinds of Special Attacks that might get thrown their way in a switch out, particularly Thunderbolt and Grass Knot.  It really just depends on what you're going for.  If not Hypnosis, then I would suggest Toxic, so as to incapacitate the opponent in a few turns.  Hypnosis is usually preferable, but Toxic can also work well.  

I hope the advice I've given has helped. :)  

Oh, and my Milotic is Bold. Thanks to my Emerald Bold Gardevoir with Synchronize.

@Herochild - It really isn't worth using a Master Ball on Giratina, it is preferrable to save it for Mesprit, Cresselia, and the three legendary Birds.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on April 02, 2009, 02:54:03 pm
I still need to see 7 pkmn. Togekiss, Rotom(i think) Uxie, Feebas(where do I see one?) Monferno(again, where do I see one?) Umbreon(same as previous two) and Swinub(again, where is it?)
I can reveal locations to find/see almost all pokemon. Just give me the name and the Sinnoh Dex number and I'll look it up for you. :)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on April 02, 2009, 05:08:35 pm
I still need to see 7 pkmn. Togekiss, Rotom(i think) Uxie, Feebas(where do I see one?) Monferno(again, where do I see one?) Umbreon(same as previous two) and Swinub(again, where is it?)

Togekiss - Champion Cynthia
Rotom - Old Chateau at Nighttime (Talk to the TV in a room)
Uxie - Lake Acuity
Feebas* - 5 Stars Restaurant in Valor Lakefront, Collector Eugene
Monferno - Pokemon Ranger at Route 212 South
Umbreon - Collector at Route 212 South (Rainy Area)
Swinub - Route 216/217 in the Wild

*Feebas can also be fished in Mt. Coronet in the foggy area which leads to Route 216. However, it is very rare, as it only can be found in 4-6 tiles per day. [You occupy one tile] As a day passes, the area where Feebas occur change. In R/S/E, things were much easier, since Feebas's location was determined by the "Trendy Phrase" in Dewford Town.
   Once you find Feebas, catch as many Feebas as you can.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on April 02, 2009, 05:40:24 pm
I haven't attempted yet,but i am sure i would cream the Bug guy. I am currently filling anything i missed in the "seen" category of my Pokedex,so when i record all the Pokemon the Elite Four have,my Pokedex will be full and i can upgrade immediatly. I have everyone but Azelf,who i am attempting to catch as i type. I got lucky with Uxie,not so  much here....
that's what I'm doing now, too. Azelf will not let me catch him. I got him so far into the red that he was almost down, used an ultra ball, and he still got away! :'(

Azelf has a capture rate of 3, so catching it is still a pain even though it has a sliver of HP left.
Dialga/Palkia is very easy of a capture rate of 30, which is the capture rate of a Chatot and Chansey. This number is ridiculously high for a legendary.
However, in Platinum, Giratina has a capture rate of 3, so it'll be a challenge to catch.
Heh. I captured Azelf. I still have to catch Uxie, and I've seen Mesprit. I'll most likely import Master Balls from my Emerald version to catch Mesprit and Cresselia.
I caught Giratina w/ a Timer Ball. And Azelf in a dusk ball(at night and in a cave...) I'll go for Uxie and Rotom tonight.
I still need to see 7 pkmn. Togekiss, Rotom(i think) Uxie, Feebas(where do I see one?) Monferno(again, where do I see one?) Umbreon(same as previous two) and Swinub(again, where is it?)

Togekiss - Champion Cynthia
Rotom - Old Chateau at Nighttime (Talk to the TV in a room)
Uxie - Lake Acuity
Feebas* - 5 Stars Restaurant in Valor Lakefront, Collector Eugene
Monferno - Pokemon Ranger at Route 212 South
Umbreon - Collector at Route 212 South (Rainy Area)
Swinub - Route 216/217 in the Wild

*Feebas can also be fished in Mt. Coronet in the foggy area which leads to Route 216. However, it is very rare, as it only can be found in 4-6 tiles per day. [You occupy one tile] As a day passes, the area where Feebas occur change. In R/S/E, things were much easier, since Feebas's location was determined by the "Trendy Phrase" in Dewford Town.
   Once you find Feebas, catch as many Feebas as you can.
Thanks. I'm not looking to catch a Feebas, although if I ever am I'll share records with a few friends and we'll all search at once.I'll have to go look for a swinub, and I'll battle the three trainers to see the other three and Cynthia to complete my dex.

I hate how hard they made it to catch Feebas...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on April 02, 2009, 06:10:14 pm
So do i. It kills me.

Caught Azelf,now to fully focus on training.....


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on April 02, 2009, 09:07:28 pm
Any thoughts on Drifblim? I'm currently working with it for Veilstone Gym, but I'm looking for long-term thoughts.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on April 02, 2009, 09:39:25 pm
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@BT:  You know, it's funny.  In Diamond, I chucked two Quick Balls at Dialga, because I knew of its high catch rate, and on the second try, I caught it. :)  I've always told people to not use their Master Ball on Dialga or Palkia, but people tend to not listen to me. >__>  

You really got it Bold?  That's good. :)  That's the best Nature to get for a Milotic, at least competitively.  Just work on what I mentioned, and you'll have a pro Milotic in no time. :)  

What's more funny - I caught Dialga with a Standard PokeBall. Of course, I weakened it first.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on April 02, 2009, 10:42:59 pm
Oh and I forgot to mention that only one Pokeball was used to capture him.  ;D

I also am considering to EV train my Staryu with PERFECT 31 IVs on Speed. It is also a Timid Natured Staryu. I also havea "Perfect":
~ NidoranF - Adamant with 31 IVs on Attack
~ Porygon - Timid with 31 IVs on Speed
~ Omanyte - Modest with 31 IVs on Defense, along with decent enough IVs on Special Attack. It's even Female too!
~ Yanma - Modest with 31 IVs on Speed and Sp. Attack
~ Gligar - Jolly with 31 IVs on Attack
~ Swinub - Adamant with 31 IVs on Attack
~ Larvitar - Adamant with 31 IVs on Attack

I also have a Dragonite and Milotic, just what I said before. I still have to make up a team. I currenly have 252 EVs on Staryu's Speed, but since I want it to be a Rapid-Spinner, I have to redo my Training until Staryu has 216 EVs in Speed.

These are all the Pokemon that I have that have very good IVs and Nature. I'm working for a good Aerodactyl, a good Pineco along with a good nature Bagon with 31 IVs on Attack.

@Dudebot - Drifblim is actually a GREAT Pokemon. I used him for Pre-E4. He has High HP, but has crummy defenses to compensate for this. In fact, he is just a wee bit close to making it to the OU tier. The only thing that can stop it is Roar or Whirlwind, especially if Drifblim has the Baton Pass moveset  . If used correctly, he could pose a threat to even the OU tier. So why not let someone give a lecture description/opinion of Drifblim?Plus, Drifloon are SO cute!!! Sorry, couldn't resist. ;D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on April 02, 2009, 11:34:36 pm
I do have plans for Drifblim, but I know it probably won't make my "final" team. When I mean "final," I mean post-E4 competitive team.

ATM, it's at least going to get me through this gym. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on April 02, 2009, 11:41:22 pm
Now I just need to get ~4000 more coins from the Slots so I can get my hands on Psychic. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 03, 2009, 03:06:39 pm
Did I mention I caught Gira with one or so Ultra Balls? =P

I'm on my way to catch both Dialga and Palkia now... Wish me luck, I'll need it =P

I caught Feebas in Emerald... I'll probably just Migrate it before I start over, since it'll be a pain if not, seeing as I only have one DS, don't know anyone else with one, and still have to figure out how the heck I'm getting everything from Diamond to Platinum, so if I want I can reset Diamond. >_>


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on April 03, 2009, 03:26:17 pm
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I just realized that RP is ZLS. XD  I'll start calling you ZLS from now on, okay?  I usually refer to people by the name I've come to know them by. :)
lol, I'll respond to either...
I've seen you around a lot here and there, but I never realized it was you. :)  
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Okay, what nature(s) should I try for for the following pkmn:
Electivire
Magmortar
Rhyperior
Is this for a competitive team?  If so, I would personally ditch the Magmortar.  The other two perform fine competitively, but Magmortar is lackluster.  He barely fits into Borderline.  His stats aren't really as good as some other choices are.  I really would suggest having Infernape over him, but I guess it's your choice. :-\  

Adamant
Modest
Adamant
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And I've recently seen the one absolutely horrible thing about my Rapidash: it's defence is the worst of my entire team and it can't take a big hit...
Part of the reason why I suggested Infernape over Rapidash.  Both have horrid defenses, but unlike Rapidash, Infernape has incredible Attack, Special Attack, and Speed.  If you're a good trainer who knows how to use him correctly, I honestly consider him to be just as threatening, if not moreso, as Electivire or Rhyperior.  Rapidash can't compare to Infernape in long-term capabilities, simple as that. :-\  
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And to train for the E4 I decided on a reckless and costly method. I keep only Rapidash and Leafeon in my party and go from there. It did have some effect. Rapidash is now level 61 and can easily take out Aaron, Flint and the psychic guy, with Leafeon being used as a wall of some sort so I can revive/heal Rapidash as necessary. Sadly this method won't work very well with Empoleon and Luxray as they can't use super effective and STAB moves against the first two E4 people and Luxray can't do much else...
Yeah...You should never have to resort to doing such a method.  Bring your team together on your runs.  
My three pkmn team is now above lv 60.

Leafeon lv 62: Grass Knot, Giga Drain, Magical Leaf, Last Resort(want to switch for Giga Impact soon...)
Empoleon lv 61: Brine, Drill Peck, Surf, Flash Cannon
Rapidash lv 66: Fire Blast, Flare Blitz, Stomp, Bounce

I guess part of the problem is that I have only three good(i use that loosely) pkmn. I also have a few others that I could train:

Uxie lv 50
Azelf lv 50
Giratina lv 50

But they would only be as short term pkmn(only for the E4).
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Part of the problem that I've seen with your team is that there really isn't a lot of good synergy between them.  Could you post the Pokemon you're using, as well as their Natures and movesets?  I'll try to see what's going wrong.  
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Anywho, I have the stuff to evolve Magmar, Electabuzz, Rhydon, Porygon(x2). Where can I find a Murkrow? or do I need a diamond version to trade it from?
Yeah, you need Diamond.  
@RP - For your Pre-E4 team, your Pokemon team still has a Ground issue. Try getting a Flying type like Staraptor/Altaria/etc. as to avoid Ground attacks. You could try Garchomp for a spin, as it is legitimate Pre-E4, however is banned in competitive play*. I wouldn't suggest Rhyperior will only add to your Ground weakness, but if you really want it, get a Protector and another DS and friend so it'll evolve into a Rhyperior, which has tremendous Attack/Defense/HP, but try to avoid Special Sweepers. But a Rhydo would be Okay too. Instead, try Hippowdon out.
   These are my suggestions, so if you don't want to follow them, you don't have to.  

* In early D/P play, Garchomp was preferred by many players since it was a powerhouse in almost every stat. However, since it was so powerful it swept through many teams, it was moved to the Uber tier. Flygon, who sat in the shadows of Garchomp,regained popularity and is now OU since it is the only Ground/Dragon type left. Other than Attack and Speed, its other stats are not so hot, but has a versatile movepool.
Thanks. I'll think about this and if I can find a hippodon I may use it.
I would personally suggest Staraptor for a Flying-type.  The key difference for it that sets it apart from other Flying-types of his mold is Close Combat.  Close Combat helps Staraptor deal with the obnoxious Steel-types and Rock-types that it would otherwise have great difficulty dealing with.  It also has Return and Brave Bird, which both offer great forms of STAB.  [/quote]
I could try raising a Staraptor. I used him in Pearl and he worked out well.


Oh, and now I only need to see Togekiss to complete my dex, but Cynthia always pulls out Garchomp before Togekiss ><
Did I mention I caught Gira with one or so Ultra Balls? =P

I'm on my way to catch both Dialga and Palkia now... Wish me luck, I'll need it =P

I caught Feebas in Emerald... I'll probably just Migrate it before I start over, since it'll be a pain if not, seeing as I only have one DS, don't know anyone else with one, and still have to figure out how the heck I'm getting everything from Diamond to Platinum, so if I want I can reset Diamond. >_>
You beat the E4 already? what does your team look like?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 03, 2009, 03:36:31 pm
I beat the after story already =P My team was seriously underleveled for the Champ though, I barely beat the Champ when I fought the Champ... Now it's...

Level 62 Torterra
Level 60 Staraptor
Level 59 Bibarel
Level 60 Giratina
Level 61 Garchomp
Level 60 Rapidash

Even that's underleveled for the E4 IMO.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on April 03, 2009, 03:42:53 pm
... I need 3 other pkmn and one of them must be able to beat(or at least seriously weaken) Garchomp. Actually, I probably only need that one pkmn...
Maybe Sneasel/Weavile. I can get Weavile pre E4 completion right?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 03, 2009, 03:47:57 pm
I think so... I barely beat Garchomp, and Milotic was a nightmare >_<(Luckily I got to get a pattern with Bibarel's cut against Milotic when it used Mirror Coat =P)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on April 03, 2009, 05:08:18 pm
TWO Ub3rs and a Bibarel, Blade? You're no fun. =P

But seriously, you can do better than Bibarel. I hate its guts, after all. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 03, 2009, 05:12:40 pm
And I still almost lost 0_o I don't think Garchomp all that they say he is...

... Then again, I don't pay attention to EVs and such... Plus, I just liked Giratina, and Bibarel's only for an HM slave =P

And if you mean now, I barely win, though Garchomp's been winning a bit more... If you could suggest something else though...(Technically I was only raising it because of the Pokedex and the fact I hadn't evolved it in the last game =P)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on April 03, 2009, 05:45:36 pm
Lets see what you got without the three I mentioned.

Level 62 Torterra
Level 60 Staraptor
Level 60 Rapidash

Not too bad a start. 5 types covered so far.
I shall piggyback off and suggest Electivire. As he and B~T have said, Electivire sounds like a great Physical Sweeper. If you can't get him, then aim for a Volt Tackle Raichu like me. =P

Attempt to get the other two starters. Infernape is a better choice than Rapidash, IMO, with a more varied moveset and whatnot. Empoleon is useful due to the Steel sub-type and it's advantages.

As for the last one, well, I can't think of good suggestions ATM. ::)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on April 03, 2009, 05:49:04 pm
(http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr213/B_T_Energized/Pokemon/SinnohRegionMap.png)

I've made this today, with the "Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum" custom background. The only thing I left out was the extended Route 224.
 



Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on April 03, 2009, 06:05:20 pm
That's Paint, right?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 03, 2009, 06:43:06 pm
... I guess this'd be a bad time to mention the "Flame Wheel, Fire Blast, Strength, Flare Blitz" moveset I've got going on for Rapidash? =P

Ok then, movesets.

Rapidash: *See above*
Torterra: Equake, Crunch, Leaf Storm, Giga Drain
Staraptor: Fly(I didn't have anything else to slap it on...), Aerial Ace, Close Combat, Quick Attack
Bibarel: Cut, Rock Smash, Surf, Waterfall
Giratina(Origin Forme ^_^): Ominous Win, AncientPower, Dragon Claw, Earth Power
Garchomp: Sand Tomb, Dragon Claw, Crunch, Rock Climb

Don't ask about EVs, I have no clue =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on April 03, 2009, 07:54:05 pm
This was my Diamond Pre-E4 team
Empoleon - Calm
~ Surf
~ Ice Beam
~ Waterfall
~ Drill Peck
Roserade - Timid
~ Giga Drain
~ Petal Dance
~ Growth
~ Toxic
Rapidash - Hasty
~ Flamethrower
~ Fire Blast
~ Megahorn
~ Bounce
Drifblim - Lonely
~ Shadow Ball
~ Thunderbolt
~ Fly
~ Explosion
Hippowdon - Quirky
~ Earthquake
~ Thunder Fang
~ Fire Fang
~ Crunch
Lucario - Mild
~ Aura Sphere
~ Dragon Pulse
~ Dark Pulse
~ ExtremeSpeed

Yeah, my movesets weren't that great, especially Empoleon's. >.> Part of the reason was that I was reluctant to use one-use TMs (Flash Cannon, Grass Knot, Overheat, etc.) and that I didn't want to waste time with Egg Moves. Rapidash's Fire Attacks weren't that great since it was Level 53 when I versed the Elite 4. No Flare Blitz until Level 58.
   And I'm currently hatching Bagon eggs in my Emerald,c and my left Index finger is sore >.>. And Roserade's Speed has 31 IVs in it.  


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on April 03, 2009, 10:29:40 pm
I would list my current team and moveset, but I'm in the middle of a large arcade bonus. =P

*Working for 10,000 coins*


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on April 03, 2009, 11:46:10 pm
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Heh, sure. :) 

I've never been that heavily involved with the Game Corners.  Money has never been an object to me, so if there's a prize I absolutely have to have, I usually just buy all of the coins I need. ::)
[/quote]

And I have horrible luck with the slots...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on April 03, 2009, 11:51:34 pm
I've got a good streak running now. I've gone from 500 coins to 5877 coins, mostly through Bonus Rounds. Aiming for Psychic for Drifblim. =D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on April 04, 2009, 12:22:58 am
He has a better idea and doesn't want to tell me, methinks. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on April 04, 2009, 07:59:54 am
Beat the game. I cut a few corners on training,i trained Gardevoir only a few levels,and barely bothered with Giratina. I figured i won't need it in the long run.

So now,i need advice on which Pokemon i pick to fill my team. These are the Pokemon I'm picking from,but suggestions are welcomed:
Tangrowth(awful speed)
Dusknoir
Porygon-Z
Scizor
Froslass
Garchomp
Roserade
Drapion
And anything else you think will be good

Can you advise on each of these?



Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 04, 2009, 08:24:44 am
Rapidash: 'k, Rapidash was kinda filler because I couldn't access any actual good offer Chimchars from the GTS... But ok =)

Torterra: Alright. I think I may go Leech Seed.

Staraptor: *Wonders for a brief second how I'm gonna get two Returns, but goes on to the rest of the advice* Brave Bird huh... Good thing I've got Heart Scales =P The only reason I didn't have it was because of the recoil effect. Wait though, what would replace Fly, which is worse than wing attack from what I've heard?

Bibarel: =P

Giratina: Okay then. I dropped AncientPower for Defog though because I had to get through a cave...

BT: Nice, you've got a Lucario... I never did bother to hatch my Riolu... Or evolve it(Hard to do when it's not even hatched eh? =P)

Dudebot: You mean the thing in Veilstone? Yeah, I racked up around 5,000 coins and got the Explosion TM =)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on April 04, 2009, 10:00:45 am
Rapidash: 'k, Rapidash was kinda filler because I couldn't access any actual good offer Chimchars from the GTS... But ok =)

Torterra: Alright. I think I may go Leech Seed.

Staraptor: *Wonders for a brief second how I'm gonna get two Returns, but goes on to the rest of the advice* Brave Bird huh... Good thing I've got Heart Scales =P The only reason I didn't have it was because of the recoil effect. Wait though, what would replace Fly, which is worse than wing attack from what I've heard?

Bibarel: =P

Giratina: Okay then. I dropped AncientPower for Defog though because I had to get through a cave...

BT: Nice, you've got a Lucario... I never did bother to hatch my Riolu... Or evolve it(Hard to do when it's not even hatched eh? =P)

Dudebot: You mean the thing in Veilstone? Yeah, I racked up around 5,000 coins and got the Explosion TM =)
I just got a Riolu egg.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on April 04, 2009, 10:34:47 am
Staraptor: *Wonders for a brief second how I'm gonna get two Returns, but goes on to the rest of the advice* Brave Bird huh... Good thing I've got Heart Scales =P The only reason I didn't have it was because of the recoil effect. Wait though, what would replace Fly, which is worse than wing attack from what I've heard?

You get 2 Returns, one from Professor Rowan and another from somewhere else.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on April 04, 2009, 10:36:33 am
Giratina: Okay then. I dropped AncientPower for Defog though because I had to get through a cave...

Dudebot: You mean the thing in Veilstone? Yeah, I racked up around 5,000 coins and got the Explosion TM =)
1. *Shakes head in shame*

2. I just keep hitting bonus rounds. =P
8406/10000 obtained...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on April 04, 2009, 05:03:28 pm
So, what is a good moveset for Salamence?

I would like a Dragon Dance Salamence:
Adamant - 6 HP/252Atk/252 Spd
~ Dragon Dance
~ Dragon Claw
~ Earthquake
~ Stone Edge
Adamant - 6 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
Or a Salamence like:
~ Dragon Claw
~ Earthquake
~ Stone Edge
~ Flamethrower/Fire Blast

Which is better?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on April 04, 2009, 07:19:48 pm
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@ZLS: o__0  -__-  -__0`  

>__<  

No wonder you've been having such difficulty.  Your movesets are far beyond messed up.  You've got two Fire-type attacks on Rapidash, two Water-type attacks on Empoleon, and three Grass-type attacks on Leafeon, with the last being Last Resort, which I highly disagree upon in use.  Your team has great potential, but you're going about it in a very bad manor.  I believe you do all of this based on STAB, but believe me, this is a really bad way to go about raising a team.  Let me give you some advice for these three:  

First off, never use more than one move of a kind of type, at least for attacking purposes.  For example, don't put Brine and Surf on Empoleon.  It's unnecessary.  

Starting with Empoleon, I'd like to point out that you're attempting to use Empoleon for direct attacking purposes.  Unfortunately, Empoleon is really meant more for defending than attacking.  However, if you really want to be serious about battling purposes, then I'll suggest a moveset here.  Here's a good Special Sweeper Empoleon:  

Surf
Ice Beam
Grass Knot
Agility

Agility helps to make up for its lackluster Speed, making it a viable choice for a Special Sweeper.  Surf acts as the main form of STAB, and Ice Beam can take care of pesky Dragon-types (such as Garchomp), as well as Grass-types that might otherwise absorb Surf and Grass Knot for little damage.  Grass Knot is somewhat of a filler, but it helps to deal with heavier opponents, as well as opponents that might otherwise turn Surf and Ice Beam away, namely opposing Water-types.  In my opinion, if you transform your Empoleon into a Special Sweeper, it'll become the main contender against Cynthia's Garchomp.  
'kay, but I don't have the money to get ice beam, nor do I have another grass knot tm... and no steel stab?

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Next up is Rapidash.  The problem with Rapidash is that not only does it lack a wide array of good moves in its movepool, but it also has below average stats.  It has decent Attack and Speed, but that's all it has going for it.  Infernape is a far better choice.  Infernape has better stats overall, and has a far wider movepool than Rapidash.  Nonetheless, I'll make of this what I can:

Flare Blitz
Megahorn
Iron Tail
Return/Double Kick

Flare Blitz is obviously there for a good STAB, but it should be used in extreme moderation, due to Rapidash's horrid HP (HP is its weakest stat).  Megahorn offers a good physical move that can strike down many opponents.  The lack of recoil is good, but it does come at the cost of Accuracy, which is unpreferable.  However, with Megahorn, the benefits outweigh the negatives, and unfortunately, it's the next best thing to work with on Rapidash.  And if we're having to come down to conversation like that, then it's evident that it has a bad movepool.  Iron Tail is there to help take oncoming Rock-types on, but again, that depends on if you can land the attack.  The last move deals with filler.  Return is a decent physical attack, and can help take on Water-types and Flying-types that Rapidash would have difficulty fighting.  Double Kick could further deal with Steel-types and Rock-types, but they've already been dealt with, so I would suggest Return instead.  

In all honesty, as I've been saying time and again, Infernape is a far better choice, but I suppose it's your opinion. :-\  
I'm starting to agree with you about Infernape... I like Rapidash's stomp because of it's flinch inflicting ability, although Fireblast does not work well with it, I agree. Bounce is there as a filler really, so I may try switching that for Megahorn and Fireblast for Iron tail or something...

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Now on to Leafeon:  

Swords Dance
Leaf Blade
Return
X-Scissor/Synthesis

Now, Leafeon has decent Attack and Speed, and has a phenomenal Defense Stat.  However, its other stats are quite lackluster.  Thus, you need to either make Leafeon a Baton Passer (all Eeveelutions act as Baton Passers) or a Swords Dance Sweeper (a Physical Sweeper with Swords Dance to reinforce its Attack).  Because this is an in-game team, I would suggest a Swords Dance Sweeper.  Swords Dance obviously boosts his Attack up to be quite competitive.  Leaf Blade acts as a great STAB move, and has a high CH bonus, as well.  You shouldn't always depend on/hope for the CH to kick in, but when it does, it'll pay off nicely for your Leafeon.  Return, again, acts as a great physical attack that can reach a base power of 108.  The last move acts as filler.  Synthesis can act as decent healing move, while X-Scissor helps to deal with Psychic-types, but more notably against opposing Grass-types.  It's really up to you.  
Leafeon doesn't learn Leaf Blade until lv 71... I really do want that move for it, and I hate Last resort, I only have it as filler and to deal with pkmn that grass is not good against. I need to get rid of Giga drain, and I wish I could put leech seed on it, because that it really a good move. I'll see if I can get swords dance for Leafeon, and maybe use return for another move.

In the end, I think I'll try these movesets unless you think something is really wrong:

Empoleon: Surf, Ice Beam, Flash Cannon, Agility
Rapidash: Megahorn, Flare Blitz, Stomp, Iron Tail
Leafeon: Leafblade, Swords Dance, Return, Giga Impact

It really depends on how much money I can get to afford Ice Beam and Giga Impact...

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I'm just surprised that you would make a mistake like that.  You shouldn't be having a Pokemon with many of their attacks being the same type. :-\  
I guess since I don't do competitive battleing I don't know the movesets for pkmn that well. And I also like to have STAB on my team, but that gets into a discussion from a while ago...

What would you suggest as a moveset for a Weavile?




Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on April 04, 2009, 07:24:14 pm
What would you suggest as a moveset for a Weavile?

A good moveset for Weavile would be:
Jolly/Adamant
EV Spread: 6 HP/252 Atck/252 Speed
 - Night Slash
 - Ice Punch
 - Brick Break
 - Swords Dance


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on April 04, 2009, 07:26:19 pm
Thanks. I currently have a Sneasel with a Jolly nature lv 45. It knows none of those attacks :P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on April 04, 2009, 08:10:19 pm
Current team post 4th badge:

Prinplup lv35 - Metal Claw, Hydro Pump, Peck, Brine
Drifblim lv32 - Fly, Ominous Wind, Payback, Psychic
Monferno lv35 - Flame Wheel, Mach Punch, Rock Climb, Flamethrower
Torterra lv34 - Tackle (0_o), bite, Mega Drain, Razor Leaf
Pichu lv20 - Charm, Thunder Wave, Double Team, Volt Tackle

Torterra was evolved at 34 instead of 32, which is why Earthquake is absent. Rock Climb, Flamethrower, and Hydro Pump were all egg moves. And yes, I'm aware of the Pichu problem. >_>

This list is subject to change drastically at any comment. So please do comment, because change can be good. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on April 05, 2009, 11:24:38 am
Thanks. I currently have a Sneasel with a Jolly nature lv 45. It knows none of those attacks :P

Why not check its IVs?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on April 05, 2009, 08:32:03 pm
Hello there! I am making my first post from my Nintendo Dsi.

Currently attempting to beat Battle Hall. Got Electivire,and he has been good.

Moves:
Thunderpunch
Thunderbolt
Fire Punch
Strength

When i get the BPs,I will teach it Earthquake. Trying to diversify moves.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on April 05, 2009, 09:04:13 pm
I would switch Thunderbolt for Earthquake, Mata. It's the only non-physical move you have on there, wich is Electivire's strong point. ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on April 05, 2009, 10:59:32 pm
And I'd get rid of Strength and replace it with Ice Punch.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on April 06, 2009, 08:40:38 am
Alright,i gave in and took an HM slave. Bibarel.

@DB-actually,my Electivire has AMAZING Sp. Attack.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on April 06, 2009, 02:24:58 pm
Thanks. I currently have a Sneasel with a Jolly nature lv 45. It knows none of those attacks :P

Why not check its IVs?
I don't know what/how to check IVs...

And...
I beat the E4, caught Dialga and Palkia, and began to create my core team.
My current 4 pkmn team is as such:

Empoleon lv 71: Surf, Brine, Drill Peck, Flash Cannon
Leafeon lv 72: Return, Leafblade, Grass Knot, Magical leaf
Rapidash lv 71: Flare Blitz, Megahorn, Bounce, Stomp
Weavile lv 63: Night Slash, Faint Attack, Slash, Icy Wind

BT, I haven't forgotten your input, just haven't had the time to work on it. Forget about the drill peck comment, as I realised after I posted that Drill peck is physical and not special, so that's gone. I'm trying to get Swords dance for Leafeon, and I'm deciding on a last move for it otherwise. I'm pretty happy with Rapidash, although I want to try something other than Bounce on it.
I'm still leveling up Weavile, but I don't know where to get it Ice Punch...
I'm also gonna start to level up my Electivire that I got yesterday, along with my Rhyperior and Magmortar. I have Giratina in Origin forme now, but I'm not gonna use it, or Palkia, or Dialga or anyone else Uber.
Who would you suggest to complete my team? Try to keep Weavile and Leafeon in it, and I do have access to a lv 60 Infernape from my pearl version.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on April 06, 2009, 02:46:00 pm
Alright,i gave in and took an HM slave. Bibarel.

@DB-actually,my Electivire has AMAZING Sp. Attack.

Are you using an Electivire for Pre-E4?
If so, SAVE FIRST and then use the stat-removing berries to check its real IVs.
I'm suspecting that you just inputted his values without considering the EVs he has, and almost no one knows how many EVs are in your Electivire.
By using the berries, you can ensure that Electivire has no EVs, making it easier to calculate.  
Then soft-reset the game and everything is back to normal.

Thanks. I currently have a Sneasel with a Jolly nature lv 45. It knows none of those attacks :P

Why not check its IVs?
I don't know what/how to check IVs...

And...
I beat the E4, caught Dialga and Palkia, and began to create my core team.
My current 4 pkmn team is as such:

Empoleon lv 71: Surf, Brine, Drill Peck, Flash Cannon
Leafeon lv 72: Return, Leafblade, Grass Knot, Magical leaf
Rapidash lv 71: Flare Blitz, Megahorn, Bounce, Stomp
Weavile lv 63: Night Slash, Faint Attack, Slash, Icy Wind

BT, I haven't forgotten your input, just haven't had the time to work on it. Forget about the drill peck comment, as I realised after I posted that Drill peck is physical and not special, so that's gone. I'm trying to get Swords dance for Leafeon, and I'm deciding on a last move for it otherwise. I'm pretty happy with Rapidash, although I want to try something other than Bounce on it.
I'm still leveling up Weavile, but I don't know where to get it Ice Punch...
I'm also gonna start to level up my Electivire that I got yesterday, along with my Rhyperior and Magmortar. I have Giratina in Origin forme now, but I'm not gonna use it, or Palkia, or Dialga or anyone else Uber.
Who would you suggest to complete my team? Try to keep Weavile and Leafeon in it, and I do have access to a lv 60 Infernape from my pearl version.

Ice Punch is learned on Weavile by a Move Tutor in Route 212. Remember in D/P where you trade 10 shards of the same color for a TM in a house? Now, when you return to that same house, the person there will teach your Pokemon moves for shards. You can dig shards up underground, or on the floor. You need 6 Blue Shards and 2 Red Shards to pay to the person to teach Ice Punch to Weavile.  


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on April 06, 2009, 02:47:58 pm
@RP-You are fast......

try a........Steel/Dragon type. Your team needs an overall staller,along with some good,consistent,power. Try Steelix or Gabite,maybe even immigrate Salemence.

@BT-I don't really use EVs or IVs. And i can't get on the Internet with Pokemon,so i don't train for competition.

Beat my first Frontie Brain. Battle Hall. Electivire.

Here is a recap-
FB(Frontier Brain,forgot her name) sends out Registeel.
I send out Electivire.
Electivire uses Fire Punch. Takes out about 1/5 of Rsteel's HP.
Registeel uses Flash Cannon.
I use low kick.
Rsteel uses berry. HP @ 1/5.
Rsteel uses Iron head.
I use Fire Punch. I win.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on April 06, 2009, 03:44:02 pm
Quote
try a........Steel/Dragon type. Your team needs an overall staller,along with some good,consistent,power. Try Steelix or Gabite,maybe even immigrate Salemence.

Steelix is a Ground/Steel type. No dragon. ;)

Do not use Garchomp, for it is an Ub3r and everyone'll hate you for using it.

Salemance, on the other hand, is a nice idea. :)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on April 06, 2009, 07:07:06 pm
lol. I do need a staller, and the only dragon/steel type I know of is Dialga... I think I'll try something like this, and maybe switch a few things around later:

Leafeon
Weavile
Infernape/Magmortar
Electivire
Gallade
Salamance/Dragonite/some water pkmn.

How many times do you have to do the battle hall until you fight the brain? and will it always be Registeel that I have to face? Or do you choose the type? Cause I won 20 in a row with my Leafeon...

Team Update:
Leafeon lv 75, Empoleon lv 73, Weavile lv 68, Electivire lv 48, Gallade lv 40.
I'm not using my Rapidash because I'm trying to train Electivire and Gallade. I have a lv 60 Infernape in my Pearl that I may add to my team eventually. I'm currently trying to furnish my villa while at the same time trying to buy Swords Dance for Leafeon. Elite 4 is the way to go, since I get lots of money, and training for Electi and Gallade.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on April 06, 2009, 07:28:04 pm
Take note that if you HoF about 10 times or so, the E4 get stronger. ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on April 06, 2009, 07:35:28 pm
The Elite 4 already became 16 levels higher per pkmn. It happens after you tag team fight people before entering the Battle Frontier. I'm not sure if that's what you meant, but that happens. I'm using Exp. Share to train Electivire and Gallade.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on April 07, 2009, 08:51:27 am
@RP and DB-i meant a steel OR Drsgon type.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: 0PureChaos0 on April 07, 2009, 05:14:03 pm
I've got the silver Battle Castle Symbol! I almost got the silver Battle Arcade symbol. The music's awsome.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on April 07, 2009, 05:15:32 pm
I don't have wi-fi, so I can't get a tm from the internet. However, I have acces to my Pearl version's Grass Knot(as well as a lv 60 Infernape in that version) and my bro's Diamond version w/ Grass Knot.
So: Empoleon- Surf, Grass Knot, Agility, Ice Beam
Leafeon: Leafblade, Swords Dance, Return, Synthesis
Rapidash: Flare Blitz, Megahorn, Iron Tail, Poison Jab... although I'll probably switch for and Infernape...
Weavile: Night Slash, Ice punch(since I already have it), Swords Dance, Brick Break

Electivire?
Gallade? (psycho cut, leafblade, night slash, swords dance?)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on April 07, 2009, 05:29:16 pm
Working on Stark Mountain. I will soon have Heatran.

Also,i am training a Shellgon. Decided it would be better than Togekiss.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on April 07, 2009, 05:38:07 pm
Quote
For Electivire, go with Thunder Punch, Ice Punch, Cross Chop, and Earthquake.  Give an Expert Belt as a hold item, because it hits 13 of the 17 types super-effectively, so capitalize on that.  As for Gallade, ditch Leaf Blade for Close Combat.  Even if Leaf Blade is super-effective, it'll still have the same power of an even neutral Close Combat.  Close Combat is far better.  It has STAB, it hits a far wider variety of Pokemon hard, and has a great base power to begin with.  The other moves are good, but switch Leaf Blade out for Close Combat.
Thanks. I still need to train both of those pkmn, so I don't have the ability to get them all of those moves just yet.
Working on Stark Mountain. I will soon have Heatran.

Also,i am training a Shellgon. Decided it would be better than Togekiss.
Ah, Togekiss. I think I want that pkmn in my team. Kinda.
Team Update:
Electivire lv 51
Gallade lv 47
Empoleon lv 73
Leafeon lv 75
Weavile lv 70

Infernape lv 60
Togepi lv 10 -> Togekiss
Magmar lv 28 ->Magmortar
Salamance lv 100

The last four are just possibilities of what may take the 6th spot on my team, and I ma switch out Empoleon for another one of them... the arros show what they are to become.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on April 07, 2009, 05:40:24 pm
DO NOT get Togekiss. Don't get me wrong,it's great,but its attack is AWFUL.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on April 07, 2009, 05:45:52 pm
Well then, turn it into a Special Attack user. That is its best stat, after all. ::)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on April 07, 2009, 05:50:33 pm
Salemence is just stronger overall,and it doesn't learn many Special moves.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on April 07, 2009, 06:09:20 pm
You put an Ice type move on half your team and their Salamance goes down the drain. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on April 07, 2009, 08:53:36 pm
what advice? I can't find it.

And Togekiss knows strong moves. Return delivers a one-hit KO,when it hits(darned Hustle),and Aura Sphere is pretty effective. And the team i have has work GREAT in the Battle Frontier. The point is,i do my own thing.

Stuck trying to catch Heatran.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on April 07, 2009, 10:45:44 pm
Anyone got suggestions on a good moveset for Torterra/Infernape?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on April 07, 2009, 10:48:33 pm
well, for torterra, he always suggests wood hammer, and earthquake is really powerful.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on April 08, 2009, 11:48:52 am
good advice,but my Electivire knows Brick Break,which is fairly similar to Cross Chop. Ice Punch is just to hard to get,i can't get enough shards. Appreciate the help,but I'm going to stay as is.

Also,for the Salamence vs. Ice type problem,one word-Flamethrower.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on April 08, 2009, 02:32:39 pm
I can teach a Luxray the move Ice Fang. Flamethrower doesn't help you there.
My point is, Ice type moves are not limited to Ice Type Pokemon. ;)

Thanks. :)
Although I don't usually use stat-boosting moves, I suppose they could be helpful in the long run. Usually I just go "Attack, Attack, ATTACK!" =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on April 08, 2009, 02:42:03 pm
@DB: yeah, I normally follow the same plan as DB, but I'm sure having tha stat boosting moves will be helpful in the long run, which is why I'm gonna start using them.
My Togetic is lv 37 I think, and my Electivire is lv 52, my Gallade lv 53(it now knows Close Combat).
I haven't gone for Heatran yet, although I'll probably have him by the end of the week. I need to trade the three Regis into Platinum before I can get Gigas. Then I'll begin the quest for the 5 runners.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on April 08, 2009, 02:42:19 pm
@DB:Ditto,lol.

Heatran is ridiculous. I just gave up and left. I saved in front of him,kept trying,kept trying......NOTHING! I will try again later.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on April 08, 2009, 02:46:54 pm
Also,for the Salamence vs. Ice type problem,one word-Flamethrower.

Only use Flamethrower if your Salamence is Special-based. If it is Physical-based, use Stone Edge.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on April 08, 2009, 03:12:35 pm
I don't actually have it yet. Just a level 44 Shelgon.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on April 08, 2009, 03:20:14 pm
@DB:Ditto,lol.

Heatran is ridiculous. I just gave up and left. I saved in front of him,kept trying,kept trying......NOTHING! I will try again later.
I would suggest trying at night with a fast electric pkmn that knows Thunder Wave. Using Thunderwave, then weakening him, and using Dusk Balls should make him easy to catch. I caught Palkia, Dialga, Uxie and Rotom using only 4 duskballs total at night and using Yawn to put pkmn to sleep. Dialga and Palkia don't really count since they have easy catch rates, and so does Rotom, I believe, but Uxie was really easy to catch.

BTW, I just noticed that Rotom backwards is Motor... I guess that would explain how he can make those appliances work, if all that they are missing is a motor...

BTW#2: what is a good moveset for Togekiss and Magmortar. Both are Special based right?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on April 08, 2009, 03:27:54 pm
About Dusk Balls: It doesn't matter if it's night or not if you're in a cave. They will have a x4 capture rate regardless. ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on April 08, 2009, 03:42:04 pm
BTW#2: what is a good moveset for Togekiss and Magmortar. Both are Special based right?
Togekiss
~ Nasty Plot/Flamethrower/Fire Blast/Thunder Wave
~ Aura Sphere
~ Air Slash
~ Roost

Note that Nasty Plot is an Egg Move. If you don't want to waste time with egg moves or your Togepi/Togetic/Togekiss is male, go for the other options.

Magmortar
~ Flamethrower/Fire Blast/Overheat
~ Thunderbolt
~ Focus Blast
~ Hidden Power Ice

Magmortar is pretty slow, but can dish out some hefty damage from its pretty high Sp. Attack.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on April 08, 2009, 04:02:40 pm
I've nearly beaten the Plat Elite 4! and it's all thanks to his suggestion about Wood Hammer!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on April 08, 2009, 07:19:15 pm
I've nearly beaten the Plat Elite 4! and it's all thanks to his suggestion about Wood Hammer!
Do you mean the first time through or second? I've beaten both, and now use the E4 as training/Exp Share training...

@BT: thanks. I'll have to check out my Togekiss and see what gender it is. I want it to learn Nasty Plot, and I think I need to switch its effect thing from Hustle(dumb hustle) to serene grace as he said.
And what do you mean by Hidden Power Ice?



Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on April 08, 2009, 07:56:47 pm
first time.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on April 08, 2009, 10:31:16 pm
Just one use doubles the Attack? That changes things. >=D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on April 09, 2009, 10:24:45 am
Well,still no luck with Heatran,i think i will try Dusk Balls,i have an INCREDIBLY easy setup if you ask me though.

Togekiss uses Aura Sphere once.
Heatran has almost no HP.
Heatran uses power-boosters and beefed up attacks.
I attempt to stop them with Togekiss and Vaporeon.
I run out of Ultra Balls.

I am getting desperate-i will try Dusk Balls.

I usaully don't pick favorites,an when i do,they are my starter,but Electivire is definitly my fave.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 09, 2009, 01:05:18 pm
Oh my, it's a miracle. Nintendo finally found Canada on the map xP ... Note that I don't know where in Canada the Rotom Event will be, but it's going to be given out over Wi-Fi anyway from the 20th to May 12th.

... Anyone happen to know where the Canadian TRU event for it will be? Though I'll probably be able to get it over Wi_Fi if it's too out of range.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on April 09, 2009, 01:17:27 pm
*urk*

At least you HAVE wi-fi *sobs*....

Shellgon has almost evolved. level 47.

I enjoy battling the Gym leaders at Survival Area. I narrowly beat Riley(you can also battle trainers you once teamed up with) and,coincidentally,he has a Salamence.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on April 09, 2009, 02:31:06 pm
Well,still no luck with Heatran,i think i will try Dusk Balls,i have an INCREDIBLY easy setup if you ask me though.

Togekiss uses Aura Sphere once.
Heatran has almost no HP.
Heatran uses power-boosters and beefed up attacks.
I attempt to stop them with Togekiss and Vaporeon.
I run out of Ultra Balls.

I am getting desperate-i will try Dusk Balls.

I usaully don't pick favorites,an when i do,they are my starter,but Electivire is definitly my fave.
What you need is to induce sleep like he said... or another status, but he said sleep was better. BTW: with a dusk ball, giving Heatran low life, and inflicting a status problem you should be able to catch it easily.
*urk*

At least you HAVE wi-fi *sobs*....

Shellgon has almost evolved. level 47.

I enjoy battling the Gym leaders at Survival Area. I narrowly beat Riley(you can also battle trainers you once teamed up with) and,coincidentally,he has a Salamence.
I don't have wi-fi either. Maybe the event will be near me... or I can go to a hot-spot or something...
And yeah, the leaders are fun to battle, but so far I've only fought two of the other trainers and all 8 leaders. The hardest one(and really not that hard in fact) was the fighting leader.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 09, 2009, 04:25:57 pm
MN: I thought you were getting Wi-Fi if you had the DSi 0_o


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on April 09, 2009, 08:22:06 pm
I can't...the Dsi gets it but the GAME,released before the Dsi,is NOT copatible.

Caught Heatran. With a Dusk Ball. Got Salamence.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on April 09, 2009, 08:31:41 pm
@MN: 1. too bad... If it makes you feel better, I don't have wi-fi either...
2. Yayz! I'm gonna maybe try for Heatran tonight. My Electivire is lv 62. Training against the gym leaders is fun, and it gets me money fast. To bad you can only fight three gym leaders and one other person per day though... I'm gonna fight my rival on the weakened and see how high his pkmn levels are... and maybe go for a Frontier Badge soon.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 10, 2009, 10:26:36 am
MN: *Eye twitch* Well, if I get it, I guess I'll still need WEP =P But that's jsut wrong to do that >_> It shouldn't be the Game itself that requires a certain type, it should be the console...

Yep. =)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on April 10, 2009, 11:02:06 am
@Blade-I KNOW!

Caught Dialga and Palkia using three Ultra Balls total.

Dialga appears.
Infernape uses close Combat.
Dialga uses Earth power,Infernape faints.
Send out Salamence.
Use Ultra Ball.
Caught.

Palkia appears(after healing my PKMN)
Salemence uses Dragon Claw(TM,not level)
Palkia uses Heal Block
Salamence uses Crunch,critical hit
Palkia uses Heal Block
Ultra ball. Nadda.
Heal Block.
Ultra Ball. Caught.

Gonna train a Crobat(my staple through most games) with Mean Look to catch roamers.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on April 10, 2009, 01:15:47 pm
traded a ditto from my Pearl to Platinum and hatched two Togepi eggs. The second one had Serene Grace as it's ability, so I'm training that one now in the E4. And I have 5 pkmn roaming around my Marking map, so maybe I'll try for them soon... after I import 4 master balls from Emerald. Haven't gone for Heatran yet, and I've been leveling up my magmar(now a magmortar) and he's level 47. since my pearl version has lots of cash i think I'll trade in an ice beam tm for Empoleon.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 10, 2009, 01:18:10 pm
I still need to import my Ditto from either Emerald or Firered... Haven't decided which, since I'll be restarting both when I've imported everything from them to Plat...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on April 10, 2009, 01:22:02 pm
I still need to import my Ditto from either Emerald or Firered... Haven't decided which, since I'll be restarting both when I've imported everything from them to Plat...
... you could clone your emerald one then import it... or catch another one in emerald and import it if you don't like cloning...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 10, 2009, 01:27:27 pm
No, that's the thing, since I've perfected cloning(again), that's no prob(I've got 18 PP Maxes waiting to be imported =P), but I don't know what to fill my Firered Import Pokemon Slot with if I don't import it from Firered...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on April 10, 2009, 01:30:33 pm
if you're gonna restart the game then put a random lv 2 pidgey in and release it immediately... or something like that...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 10, 2009, 01:34:03 pm
It'll take a few days before, and I've been trying to gather new Pokemon to import that DiamondPlatinum(Gotta get used to not saying Diamond when referring to my latest 4th gen Pokemon game =P) wouldn't get, but... I think it may have a lot in Platinum that I can get somehow... Like from swarms or so.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on April 10, 2009, 05:19:20 pm
I believe if you give it a King's Rock, flinch rate increases, right?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on April 10, 2009, 06:05:24 pm
I was definately going to listen to your advice, since what you've advised for me so far has been very good(such as Return on Leafeon and other movesets). Also, since Air Slash is Special, it would make sence for Togekiss and it has flinching abilities. I wouldn't have thought of Thunder Wave, but It is good a good choice.
Hustle is a dumb effect for Toge-anything, as they have aweful attack... lowering accuracy is just dumb.
I'll probably put Leftovers on Togekiss(BTW, where do I find this?)

Current Team:
Empoleon lv 76
Leafeon lv 79 (it learned swords dance naturally :o ,  ;D )
Weavile lv 73 (Packs a punch but can't take a hard hit)
Electivire lv 64
Magmortar lv 49
Togetic lv 38 (since I had to start over from the one with hustle...)

When should I evolve Togetic?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on April 10, 2009, 06:27:22 pm
I was definately going to listen to your advice, since what you've advised for me so far has been very good(such as Return on Leafeon and other movesets). Also, since Air Slash is Special, it would make sence for Togekiss and it has flinching abilities. I wouldn't have thought of Thunder Wave, but It is good a good choice.
Hustle is a dumb effect for Toge-anything, as they have aweful attack... lowering accuracy is just dumb.
I'll probably put Leftovers on Togekiss(BTW, where do I find this?)

Current Team:
Empoleon lv 76
Leafeon lv 79 (it learned swords dance naturally :o ,  ;D )
Weavile lv 73 (Packs a punch but can't take a hard hit)
Electivire lv 64
Magmortar lv 49
Togetic lv 38 (since I had to start over from the one with hustle...)

When should I evolve Togetic?

You can find Leftovers on wild Munchlax, or as a random hold object if your Pokemon has the Ability "Pickup" and is somewhere between Levels 81-100. Or you could transfer one from Emerald.

If you're going with Paraflinch Togekiss, it really doesn't matter when to evolve it.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on April 10, 2009, 06:34:16 pm
I was definately going to listen to your advice, since what you've advised for me so far has been very good(such as Return on Leafeon and other movesets). Also, since Air Slash is Special, it would make sence for Togekiss and it has flinching abilities. I wouldn't have thought of Thunder Wave, but It is good a good choice.
Hustle is a dumb effect for Toge-anything, as they have aweful attack... lowering accuracy is just dumb.
I'll probably put Leftovers on Togekiss(BTW, where do I find this?)

Current Team:
Empoleon lv 76
Leafeon lv 79 (it learned swords dance naturally :o ,  ;D )
Weavile lv 73 (Packs a punch but can't take a hard hit)
Electivire lv 64
Magmortar lv 49
Togetic lv 38 (since I had to start over from the one with hustle...)

When should I evolve Togetic?

You can find Leftovers on wild Munchlax, or as a random hold object if your Pokemon has the Ability "Pickup" and is somewhere between Levels 81-100. Or you could transfer one from Emerald.

If you're going with Paraflinch Togekiss, it really doesn't matter when to evolve it.
thanks. I think I'll go with importing from emerald. seems to be the easiest...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on April 10, 2009, 07:47:56 pm
Does anyone have a good suggestion for a new Water-type? Revamping my team,only ones staying are Infernape and Electivire. Currently training a Gallade to replae the one i didn't get before.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on April 11, 2009, 08:23:27 am
Yeah.....I can't get Feraligatr because i will never omplete the Emerald Dex within this year.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: 0PureChaos0 on April 11, 2009, 09:46:17 am
 ;D Rotom Key is available next Sunday! ;D

I caught Dialga with a Luxury Ball the first try! ^-^

My team consists of:
Lv. 80 Torterra, Gentle Nature, Earthquake, Razor Leaf, Crunch, and Leaf Storm.
Lv. 66 Lucario, Sassy Nature, Aura Sphere, Dragon Pulse, ExtremeSpeed, and Stone Edge.
Lv. 64 Luxray, Relaxed Nature, Magnet Rise, Crunch, Fire Fang, and Ice Fang.
Lv. 64 Staraptor, Hardy Nature, Fly, Aerial Ace, Brave Bird, and Pluck. (maybe switching for Togekiss)
Lv. 39 Swampert, Lax Nature, Muddy Water, Mud Bomb, Bide, and Mud Shot.
Lv. ??? Gible, ??? Nature, ???, ??? , ???, ???. (it will be a Garchomp soon)

Mata nui: yes, that Emerald Pokedex is a pain. I still got about 150 more Pokemon to see!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on April 11, 2009, 10:03:54 am
my friend used something to give me a complete national dex in emerald, and I got cyndaquil. It's now a Typhlosion(my fav starter from GSC and one of my all time favs). Too bad they can't re-release GSC so that Ho-oh, Lugia, and the three starters would be easily available for the ds games...

I see your point on the Lum Berry/Leftovers point. Sadly(prepare yourself)... I have not gathered a single berry throughout my journey. The only one I have is from some lady... I should get on that soon...
In the battle castle you can rent a lum berry...

@0PC0: your Torterra is way ahead of everyone else on your team...  how far into the game are you again?

my team is currently in the rebuilding stage as well, but mostly for movesets, and I'm also looking for a water pkmn to replace Empoleon. I've already determined 5 of 6 pkmn on my team, I just need to finalise their movesets:
Togekiss: Serene Grace w/ ParaFlinch moveset. Item: Quick Claw, Lum Berry or Leftovers.
Electivire: Motor Drive; Thunder Punch, Earthquake and two other physical moves. Item: ?
Magmortar: Flame Body; Flamthrower, Thunderbolt, Focus Blast and something. Item: ?
Leafeon: Leaf Guard; Leafblade, Synthesis, Swords Dance, Return. Item: ?
Weavile: Snow Cloak; Ice Punch, Night Slash, Brick Break and I'm gonna teach it Swords Dance. Item: ?

Yeah. their levels are 61, 67, 50, 80 and 74 respectively. If you're training a Leafeon it learns Swords Dance at level 78...

I can't get Feraligatr(easily... I'm not gonna try for it...), so I need a water pkmn, as well as two moves for Electivire, one for Magmortar, and an item for Leafeon, Electivire, Magmortar and Weavile...




Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on April 11, 2009, 11:17:37 am
Hm.....I COULD play my Pokemon Colluseum heavily....It would be tough but worth it....


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on April 11, 2009, 12:30:27 pm
uggg... I keep losing to the Colosseum final boss...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 11, 2009, 01:21:24 pm
... Arceus. Available. For. Download. As. Movie. 12. Movie. Pokemon.

Also, level 100, and knows both it's signature move, and all three of the Dragon Trio's signature moves.

And since CoroCoro will be out soon, and with the stuff I've been reading... We just may get a treat if all the factual evidence goes the way I think it may be going...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on April 11, 2009, 01:43:14 pm
Arceus with all the goodies?!? =O

I'm currently fighting my way to the Spear Pillar. I have the final evolutions of the three starters, along with a Drifblim, average level 48ish. I have a Volt Tackle Pikachu, level 39, and a Gligar for an HM slave, level 16.

Distortions, here I come. >=D

/Edit: Just remembered I found someone in the Canalave Gym (Steel) says the word "noob" before you fight him. XD


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on April 11, 2009, 02:53:03 pm
Arceus with all the goodies?!? =O

I'm currently fighting my way to the Spear Pillar. I have the final evolutions of the three starters, along with a Drifblim, average level 48ish. I have a Volt Tackle Pikachu, level 39, and a Gligar for an HM slave, level 16.

Distortions, here I come. >=D

/Edit: Just remembered I found someone in the Canalave Gym (Steel) says the word "noob" before you fight him. XD
How long did it take you to find a Pikachi w/ a light ball? And where'd you find it?
And they should have made the DW longer than it is... maybe in future games...
lol. I must've missed that.

I finally got around to picking up the Riolu egg from Iron island... trained it to lv 35 and it evolved after fighting Cynthia. Not sure whether or not to include it in my team instead of someone else or not. And speaking of my team:
Electivire and Togekiss are both level 68. Togekiss only knows 3 moves :P Electivire knows Thunder Punch, Earthquake, Fire Punch and Giga Impact.

21/32 BP required for Thunderwave for Togekiss. I have Roost, just haven't taught it to Togekiss yet.
Edit: 21/32 aquired for T-Wave.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on April 11, 2009, 02:58:45 pm
Arceus with all the goodies?!? =O

I'm currently fighting my way to the Spear Pillar. I have the final evolutions of the three starters, along with a Drifblim, average level 48ish. I have a Volt Tackle Pikachu, level 39, and a Gligar for an HM slave, level 16.

Distortions, here I come. >=D

/Edit: Just remembered I found someone in the Canalave Gym (Steel) says the word "noob" before you fight him. XD
How long did it take you to find a Pikachi w/ a light ball? And where'd you find it?
Seeing how annoying it is to find a Light Ball, I simply ARed it on Pearl.

But if you want one legit, you can rarely fine one on a wild Pikachu. ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on April 11, 2009, 03:40:41 pm
Using a technique that involves Pokemon abilities, I obtained two Light Balls legitimately.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Legodac on April 11, 2009, 04:06:23 pm
You know, I've never once played Pokemon, perhaps I should try it, it may be popular, considering the topic has


 600 posts


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 11, 2009, 04:35:20 pm
You should, it's a very good game ^_^ And pretty easy to pick up and play, since you don't need to know more than how to select stuff and read and know where to go. Plus, it seems there's something for everyone in Platinum...

One thing though, you'll need a DS for the latest versions.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on April 11, 2009, 07:49:06 pm
Finished the Distortion World and caught Giratina (With an Ultra Ball, to boot ^_^), I caught Uxie with 7 Ultras, caught Azelf with 13 of the same. Mesprit's running, mostly due to my mad skilz, but that's beside the point. =P

My three starters are about Lv 50, and Drifblim is just short of that at 47. Pikachu is at 45, and could heead into Raichu at any time.

That said, can I get a suggested movelist for Pikachu?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on April 11, 2009, 09:09:06 pm
@DB - A good moveset for a Raichu would be:

Adamant -- Item: Leftovers
- Volt Tackle
- Substitute
- Focus Punch
- Grass Knot/Encore

Use Substitute and then use Focus Punch. The opposing Pokemon will hit your Substitute if it lives and lets you use Focus Punch successively. Grass Knot is there as to hit Water/Ground types that'll wall you. If you used your Grass Knot already, or you don't want to waste a one-copy only TM like me, go with Encore instead to make things a bit easier. Volt Tackle insists that you want a Physical Raichu, so there you go. Leftovers recovers you from the HP wasted from those Substitutes and Volt Tackle recoils.

A Special based Raichu:

Modest/Timid -- Item: Choice Specs
- Nasty Plot
- Thunderbolt
- Focus Blast
- Grass Knot/Hidden Power Ice

Nasty Plot to boost your Special Attack power, and sweep. Grass Knot for the same above purpose, or Hidden Power Ice for defensive Grass or Ground types and to do some decent damage to a walling Altaria.     


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on April 12, 2009, 09:47:22 am
Ok,definitely gonna get a Crocanaw from my Pokemon Colluseum.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on April 12, 2009, 12:13:52 pm
Thank you, B~T. :)

I now has the following:
Lv 52 Torterra
Lv 52 Infernape
Lv 50 Empoleon
Lv 47 Drifblim
Lv 46 Pikachu

I'm possibly thinking of Weavile as the last member, but I'm not entirely sure on this one. Suggestions?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on April 12, 2009, 12:22:15 pm
Someone suggested a Weavile moveset for me:

Weavile w/ Jolly Nature
Icepunch/IceShard
Brick Break
Night Slash
Swords Dance

I would definately get a Weavile for E4 purposes, since it made Lucian and Cynthia's Garchomp easy to beat.

BTW: have you faced the last gym yet?
Your pkmn are way ahead of what mine were at that point in the game. My highest was like lv 48 I think...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on April 12, 2009, 02:43:02 pm
Currently surfing my way to Victory Road. And it helps when you get most of your other pokemon from Pearl to start. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: 0PureChaos0 on April 13, 2009, 06:56:03 am
@0PC0: your Torterra is way ahead of everyone else on your team...  how far into the game are you again?

Umm... Battle Frontier with 1 silver print.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on April 13, 2009, 10:15:01 am
@DB: cool. You should have no prob with the E4 then.

@0PC0: I'm around the same spot, except that I've yet to get a print... I'm going for the Battle Castle first, using Electivire, Leafeon and Togekiss.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 13, 2009, 10:21:00 am
I've only got a silver print from the Battle... ... What's the one with only one Pokemon fighting?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on April 13, 2009, 10:41:19 am
The Battle Hall. Won that with my Electivire.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on April 13, 2009, 10:57:08 am
... tried that one with Leafeon and faced off against a Slowbro that knew Flamethrower... it didn't go over so well...

I finished my 2nd round in the Battle Castle. Actually, I beat 3 rounds on double battle, but you don't face off against the Frontier Brain in double...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on April 13, 2009, 10:58:43 am
I lost to the Brain at the Castle. houndoom KILLED me,even after i lowered its level by 5.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 13, 2009, 11:13:27 am
Did you try to type match it? Just lowering levels doesn't always work =)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on April 13, 2009, 11:57:25 am
It was too fast. Believe me,i had the type matched well.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 13, 2009, 12:11:02 pm
... What Pokemon did you use again?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on April 13, 2009, 12:47:25 pm
The Brain at the Battle Castle has a:
~Houndoom -- Focus Sash
 - Fire Fang
 - Crunch
 - Counter
 - Reversal
~Staraptor -- ??
 - Double Team
 - Return
 - Quick Attack
 - Aerial Ace
~Empoleon -- ??
 - Brick Break
 - Drill Peck
 - Aqua Jet
 - Shadow Claw

Hope this will help you in the Battle Castle.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on April 13, 2009, 02:14:26 pm
I lost too. Houndoom injured Togekiss too much. It is really strong. Here's how it went:

Houndoom Crunches Togekiss.
Togekiss uses Aura Sphere and weakens Houndoom.
Houndoom Crunches Togekiss, who faints.
Electivire comes out and Houndoom Crunches it.
Electivire Earthquakes Houndoom, who faints.
Empoleon comes out and is Thunderpunched by Electivire.
Empoleon Surfs over Electivire, who faints.
Leafeon Leafblades Empoleon, who faints.

It's Leafeon vs lv 45 Staraptor. Star is still faster ><
Staraptor uses double team x2, while Leafeon lands 1/2 returns.
Staraptor uses Aerial Ace. Leafeon is injured.
Leafeon lands another Return.
Staraptor lands another Aerial Ace. Leafeon is down to 6 hp, then recovers using a citrus berry.
Return misses><
Staraptor aerial aces Leafeon, who faints.

I curse as the pkmn trainer says something to me... :P

I'm gonna try again. I think I can beat him if I switch up the order. I'll send out Electivire first I think.

31/32 BP acquired for Thunder Wave...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 13, 2009, 02:17:15 pm
Here's an idea, if you can help it, switch up Electivire with Togekiss so Electivire's first for that battle, then try to sweep them with the attacks. Also, if you can, add an item that'll help you land super powerful super effective hits...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on April 13, 2009, 02:24:10 pm
yeah, and I'll do a round of Battle hall to get the last BP required for Thunderwave, then I can used Togekiss as a ParaFlinch like it's supposed to be...

And @BT:you got the three pkmn right, but only 3 of the four moves are right. There's always a 4th move that's random for each pkmn, seeing as how the Empoleon that I fought knew Waterfall, and because GameFaqs said so also...

And the items my pkmn had were:
Togekiss @ Quick Claw
Electivire @ Lum Berry
Leafeon @ Citrus Berry.
Quick Claw did not work as it was supposed to... and Houndoom got a Critical Hit as it's first attack ><


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on April 13, 2009, 03:30:43 pm
This stinks. I CAN'T EVEN CONNECT TO WI-FI NO MATTER HOW HARD I TRY!!! I always get Error 51000-53000.
Now can someone tell me HOW to connect to Wi-Fi that does NOT involve a Nintendo Wi-Fi USB connector?
Also, how do you find the WEP ket for a connection? I'm no computer geek.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 13, 2009, 03:33:47 pm
Do you have a wireless router for any type of Laptop or something? You can use that.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on April 13, 2009, 04:43:51 pm
I have a laptop that I use.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 13, 2009, 05:02:56 pm
Okay, what's the type of security do you use? Do you have any type of code you have to punch in?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on April 13, 2009, 05:03:53 pm
What do you mean?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 13, 2009, 05:08:48 pm
Like, to connect with your laptop, do you need to input a type of code to get past the security, or no?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on April 13, 2009, 05:13:46 pm
Nope, no codes required to connect, at least for wireless. That's the only network I can access.
For 07B408909217, I have to enter a WEP key, which is annoying as that's one of the connections my DS has available.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 13, 2009, 05:16:17 pm
Oh, so that means that one of the connections that you have available to get to the internet doesn't have any security? Can you use that on your DS?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on April 13, 2009, 05:23:54 pm
I can't access "wireless" on my DS.  :(


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 13, 2009, 05:29:54 pm
Hmm... And you don't know the WEP key for your other connection?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on April 13, 2009, 05:56:52 pm
The 07B408909217 connection is the one where I don't know the WEP key for.  :-\


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 13, 2009, 06:25:54 pm
Could you try to get it from who does it? Because, someone would have to know it for you to be able to connect to it on your laptop...

... You can connect to it on your laptop, right?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on April 13, 2009, 06:30:17 pm
Currently, my laptop accesses the internet with a cable.

No one in my family knows what is the WEP key for 07B408909217. I heard that there is a way to change the WEP key...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on April 13, 2009, 06:32:43 pm
you could try resetting the router that has WEP.. that might turn WEP off...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 13, 2009, 06:33:40 pm
There is, by going into the settings for the router... Did they ever set a WEP Key, or is this the default or so?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on April 13, 2009, 07:07:24 pm
or you could just hit your routers reset switch.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on April 13, 2009, 07:11:52 pm
How do you access your router settings?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on April 13, 2009, 09:20:40 pm
@BT-no idea.
@RP-I put my Electivire in front and lost. It doesn`t make a difference.

Still playing Colluseum....


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on April 13, 2009, 09:29:21 pm
How do you access your router settings?
just use the reset switch. (the tiny button on the side of the router, use a paper clip to hit it and hold it down for about 15 seconds).


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on April 14, 2009, 01:30:40 pm
After some...  issues...
I CONNECTED TO WI-FI!!!!1111oneone!!11!
This is great!!!

My first trade was a Seel for a Graveler, so I could get a Golem. YAY!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on April 14, 2009, 02:35:35 pm
I beat the Battle Frontier Brain from the castle.
The order of his pkmn went: Staraptor, Houndoom, Empoleon.
Electivire beat Staraptor, then lost to Houndoom.
Togekiss beat Houndoom, then lost to Empoleon.
Leafeon beat Empoleon.

Yayz!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: 0PureChaos0 on April 15, 2009, 04:49:09 pm
I beat the Battle Frontier Brain from the castle.
The order of his pkmn went: Staraptor, Houndoom, Empoleon.
Electivire beat Staraptor, then lost to Houndoom.
Togekiss beat Houndoom, then lost to Empoleon.
Leafeon beat Empoleon.

Yayz!

That was sorta like me, exept he went with Houndoom first, then Staraptor, then Empoleon.
I have the video of beating him, but I don't want to make a youtube account, just for one video.... Or do I?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on April 15, 2009, 04:51:15 pm
I am playing right now,going after the roamers with quick balls,I've done all the damage i ever will to them by now.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on April 15, 2009, 05:42:54 pm
I beat the Battle Frontier Brain from the castle.
The order of his pkmn went: Staraptor, Houndoom, Empoleon.
Electivire beat Staraptor, then lost to Houndoom.
Togekiss beat Houndoom, then lost to Empoleon.
Leafeon beat Empoleon.

Yayz!

That was sorta like me, exept he went with Houndoom first, then Staraptor, then Empoleon.
I have the video of beating him, but I don't want to make a youtube account, just for one video.... Or do I?
I also lowered each of his pkmn to lv 45...
I am playing right now,going after the roamers with quick balls,I've done all the damage i ever will to them by now.
All five?
I'm just gonna import Master Balls fom my emerald version. I'm currently on a mad hunt for every pkmn. I'm trying not only to get data on each pkmn, but to have one of each in my pc, in order. I currently have data on a huge 64 pkmn, but of that I have a ton of 3rd level pkmn, so I'm not sure how it's gonna work out. I'll have to restart my Pearl version or my bro's diamond eventually to get the starters, and I'll have to wait for wi-fi or get an AR to get the GSC starters, since I refuse to reset my emerald...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: 0PureChaos0 on April 15, 2009, 06:01:33 pm
So did I. lol


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on April 15, 2009, 09:01:59 pm
@RP-i have actually caught Moltres with this method so far,and i got SO CLOSE with Mespirit.

Anyone have a suggestion for a filler? I have these types covered-
Fighting
Fire
Water
Flying
Dragon
Electric
HM Slave

thinking about Mamoswine...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on April 16, 2009, 02:32:04 pm
Mamoswine is slow...

I am gonna need more pkmn for my team. Which is better: Sharpedo or Crawdaunt?
My current team is:
Electivire lv 78
Togekiss lv 78 (with complete ParaFlinch moveset!)
Leafeon lv 83

Yeah. I'm building on that. I'm training a lv 71 Sharpedo and a lv 45 Crawdaunt, on of which I hope will replace Empoleon. I have a Weavile lv 77, but if I add either Crawdaunt or Sharpedo to my team I won't need Weavile's dark type, so i'd find another Ice type, possibly Mamoswine or Frosslass. My Empoleon is lv 79,but I'm not gonna use it because of it's speed...

For my three remaining slots I'm looking for:
a water type (Sharpedo or Crawdaunt)
a fire type (Infernape or Magmortar
and a fighting or steel type (Gallade or someone)

I furnished my Villa completely I think, or they may be one more decoration that I have yet to unlock. I caught Heatran with 4 dusk balls, after paralysing him and weakening it.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on April 16, 2009, 02:38:37 pm
I finally beat Cynthia, and the double team of Volkner and *forgets name* the fire guy.
I almost have a full pokedex, too! (188 out of 210). those lake Pokemon are giving me a lot of trouble. any tips?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on April 16, 2009, 02:48:08 pm
Caught Zapdos.....

@RP-warning-longish post
Mamoswine is slow...
I caught Heatran with 4 dusk balls, after paralysing him and weakening it.
Yeah....the Elite Four's levels go up significantly now.....

For my three remaining slots I'm looking for:
a water type (Sharpedo or Crawdaunt)
a fire type (Infernape or Magmortar
and a fighting or steel type (Gallade or someone)
OK,you will prefer.....Crawdaunt if you want pure Atack,Sharpedo if you want attack and Speed wit no defense. I suggest Crawdaunt,as,although it isn't a whole lot better,if you don't mind sacrificing speed,it can actually stand a chance against a strong attack. Sharpedo has a high base speed,while Crawdaunt is lsower. Crawdaunt can learn powerful moves like Crabhammer,Crunch,etc. As i have been saying,the main difference is speed and Attacks,maybe defense. Sharpedo is basiclally done if you can attack before it,and if my Infernape used Close Combat,it would be over.

For a fire type,go with Infernape. He has excellent speed and is good in both Attacks. Teach him powerful moves like Close Combat and Flare Blitz,you will sacrifice stats but crsh your opponents.

For the fighting/steel thing,i reccomend Lucario. Good all-around,has moves with power and Accuracy,etc. Aura Sphere is a great move to know,and i also suggest Dark Pulse and Psychic.

Oh,and the Ice thing,you will probably want Froslass. GREAT speed.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: 0PureChaos0 on April 16, 2009, 03:09:53 pm
For the fighting/steel thing,i reccomend Lucario. Good all-around,has moves with power and Accuracy,etc. Aura Sphere is a great move to know,and i also suggest Dark Pulse and Psychic.

Oh,and the Ice thing,you will probably want Froslass. GREAT speed.

That's true, but there both weak to fire. I recomend a Swampert for the Ice type. It has only one pure weakness (grass) and as I know, it can learn Ice Beam, Avalanche, and Blizzard.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on April 16, 2009, 03:11:56 pm
I finally beat Cynthia, and the double team of Volkner and *forgets name* the fire guy.
I almost have a full pokedex, too! (188 out of 210). those lake Pokemon are giving me a lot of trouble. any tips?
Flint...
Do you mean seen or caught? And to catch Uxie and Azelf, use Dusk balls at night. You will get a much better chance since you will be in a cave and at night. If you can, catch Uxie first or get someone who can put Azelf to sleep. Here's how I'd go about catching them:
Uxie:
Get 15 Dusk Balls.
A Sneasel that knows false swipe(or another pkmn, but Sneasel is dark typed and learns FS).
A pkmn that can put Uxie to Sleep.
Save before fighting.
Weaken Uxie w/ Sneasel, then switch out to someone who can put Uxie to sleep.
When Uxie is asleep, at 1hp, and at night, catching should be no prob, unless you're really unlucky.

Azelf:
Now that you have Uxie(which knows Yawn), get a pkmn w/ disable, as well as you're Sneasle w/ FS and the 15 Duskballs(or more, it shouldn't take more than 15 tho.)
Send out Sneasel first and get Azelf down to 1 hp.
Send out the pkmn you have that knows disable. Use disable and hope that Azelf uses Uproar. If it uses uproar than you're lucky. If not, then keep trying to disable that move.
Once Uproar is disable try and get Azelf to sleep(using Uxie's yawn or another move).
Throw Dusk Balls(at night!).

Paralysis works too, but as he said, not as well. You won't need to disable Azelf if you're using Paralysing moves, which may make it easier. I caught Uxie w/ 1 dusk ball, while it was paralysed and still had a bit of hp left, so it shouldn't be too hard. Make sure when fighting Azelf that your pkmb can survive tho...

@MN: thanks. My team(other than Togekiss and Crawdaunt) will be built on Speed then... And yes, Sharpedo is very frail...
@0PC0: Then I will have 2 water types... But yeah, I see you're point. 1/2 my team would be weak to fire...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on April 16, 2009, 03:20:09 pm
I meant seen...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on April 16, 2009, 03:31:35 pm
oh... I was lucky enough that when I beat Cynthia my dex was complete. I guess I went around a lot before finally confronting the E4.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on April 16, 2009, 04:13:41 pm
Water Type:
 -- There's a reason Sharpedo is a UU Pokemon: Its defenses are very frail, and because of this, it won't last long in battle.
Instead, go with Starmie:
  1. It has higher Defenses than a Sharpedo, and its Sp. Attack isn't bad at all for Base 100 Sp. Attack.
  2. It can learn WAY more moves than a Sharpedo, from Grass Knot to Thunderbolt, both great options for a Starmie.
  3. Starmie has a HP-Recovering move, making it last longer in battle, unlike Sharpedo(I'm pretty sure Sharpedo doesn't have a recovery move, but I'm not 100% sure).
  Crawdaunt's speed makes it unsuitable for battling, and a Kingler has higher Attack and Speed. However, Dark STAB always finds a way around "Bulky Waters".

Fire type:
 -- Go with Infernape, as he suggests. He has a high Attack stats, along with Speed, but look out for its Defenses. If you want more power for less defenses and Speed, Blaziken is your choice. However, many would prefer Infernape, but Blaziken isn't half bad either.

Fighting/Steel:
 -- Lucario isn't a bad choice, and it's your choice to make it a Special or Physical sweeper. Its defenses aren't the greatest, but it still is a good choice for any team. If you're using Starmie, don't go with Gallade, since Psychic is already covered.  
 -- For Steel, Scizor is great. Even though I personally don't own him (Thanks, I don't have a friend to trade with), but from experience, it is one of the best Bug types there is. A weakness to Fire is its only problem.

All in all, those are my recommendations, so if you really want Sharpedo, I can't make you choose what you want.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on April 16, 2009, 04:49:22 pm
You guys mind defining "sweeper" and the like? I think I know what you mean, but I'm not sure.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on April 16, 2009, 05:06:33 pm
You guys mind defining "sweeper" and the like? I think I know what you mean, but I'm not sure.
Hopefully this is right:
Physical Sweeper: High attack, good speed, high attack moves. (eg. Electivire or Lucario)
Special Sweeper: High SpAttack, good speed, high SpAttack moves. (Lucario or Alakazam)
Physical Wall: High defences, Recovering mves + status inflicting moves. (... Bastiodon has high defences...)
Special Wall: High SpDefences, Recovering moves + status infilcting moves. (Blissey)

There are other names, but those are the main ones I think.
ParaFlinch(as I've been describing my Togekiss) means that you paralyze the foe then use a move that makes the pkmn flinch. Goes hand in hand with a pkmn who has serene grace as an ability.
Rapid Spinner? I don't know this one. Mind explaining?
There are probably others. Hopefully what I posted was useful and correct...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on April 16, 2009, 05:57:14 pm
Ah. Okay, makes sence. I guess I better go look for a Staryu then. I guess if I'm not putting Sharpedo or Crawdaunt on my team then Weavile can stay. That would leave me with:

Leafeon
Electivire
Togekiss
Starmie
Weavile

and Infernape, maybe.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on April 16, 2009, 06:07:41 pm
Go to the GTS to trade. Just breed your current starter Pokemon to get its basic form (Piplup, in that case). Then, offer it onto Wi-Fi for a starter Pokemon of your choice (I recommend you go with a Turtwig or Chimchar rather than Torterra or Monferno or a Female of a species). Overnight, someone will trade with you.

Also there are:
~ Phazers - These Pokemon use Whirlwind or Roar to prevent opposing Pokemon to set up stat boosting moves (Calm Ming, Swords Dance, etc.) A famous Phazer would be Skarmory.
~ Rapid Spin Blockers - Basically any Ghost type Pokemon, as they can "block Rapid Spin" just like their name since Rapid Spin is a Normal move. An example of a Rapid Spin Blocker would be Gengar.
~ Baton Passers - These Pokemon have a Stat Boosting move along with Baton Pass to "pass" Stat Boosting moves to another Pokemon to accompany sweeping. An example would be Jolteon or Umbreon.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on April 16, 2009, 06:13:40 pm
Go to the GTS to trade. Just breed your current starter Pokemon to get its basic form (Piplup, in that case). Then, offer it onto Wi-Fi for a starter Pokemon of your choice (I recommend you go with a Turtwig or Chimchar rather than Torterra or Monferno or a Female of a species). Overnight, someone will trade with you.

Also there are:
~ Phazers - These Pokemon use Whirlwind or Roar to prevent opposing Pokemon to set up stat boosting moves (Calm Ming, Swords Dance, etc.) A famous Phazer would be Skarmory.
~ Rapid Spin Blockers - Basically any Ghost type Pokemon, as they can "block Rapid Spin" just like their name since Rapid Spin is a Normal move. An example of a Rapid Spin Blocker would be Gengar.
~ Baton Passers - These Pokemon have a Stat Boosting move along with Baton Pass to "pass" Stat Boosting moves to another Pokemon to accompany sweeping. An example would be Jolteon or Umbreon.
I do not have wi-fi...
And my bro resets his game every so often, and if you can breed starters then I'll just breed my starters from Pearl, or my bro's from diamond.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on April 16, 2009, 11:12:52 pm
Off the GTS, I traded a Murkrow for a Misdreavus, however the Misdreavus was caught in a Master Ball. I suspect it was a hack, or perhaps an Action Replay user, but I'm not too sure. I still am sensitive about AR Pokemon, so I guess I'll have to release it eventually.

Pokeball - Master Ball
Misdreavus - Level 10 - Female
OT - Camille
ID - 48989
Docile nature.
April 15, 2009
Eterna Forest
Apparently met at Lv. 10
Likes to Run
HP-33
Atck-19
Def-17
Sp. A-22
Sp. D-22
Spe-24
Levitate
~Growl
~Psywave
~Spite
~Astonish


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on April 17, 2009, 08:42:31 am
Well,no wi-fi,but on the bright side,with the Dsi the next Pokemon game,if they make one*shudders at Pokemon dying* the wi-fi should work with WPA.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on April 17, 2009, 11:22:42 am
anyone know where I can add Krikitune and Wormadam as seen to my Pokedex?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 17, 2009, 11:34:48 am
Quote
Essentially, the GTS is a breeding ground for hackers.
*Looks between those millions of wrong image Pokemon to this* Yeah, I have to agree =P Plus the stupid trades... But it's pretty good if you're not online a lot and if you don't know anyone who has the game...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on April 17, 2009, 11:45:11 am
anyone know where I can add Krikitune and Wormadam as seen to my Pokedex?

Wormadam:
Route 213 I think - A  Beauty trainer has all 3 kinds of Wormadam on her team.
Or
Catch a FEMALE Burmy and raise it to Lvl. 20

Kricketune:
Can be found in the Trophy Garden, more common at night.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on April 17, 2009, 11:49:04 am
thanks. now,  where are sudowudo and happiny?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on April 17, 2009, 01:04:01 pm
Current 'Dex stats: 345 seen, 243 captured. This includes any and all legendaries. I don't think I'm doing half bad. ::)

304 seen, 284 captured.

@ddude - Sudowoodo I think are found in Route 221 in Platinum. For Happiny, you hatch the egg a Traveler gave you in Hearthome City. Or a Breeder in Route 209.

Would Ice Punch/Thunder Punch be a good option for Gallade?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 17, 2009, 02:19:17 pm
... Okay, I'm confused. First people say EvMin won't activate the Gracidea, now people are saying it will... What's right?

By EvMin I mean the Oak's Letter event Shaymin, that was released today for Japanese players...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on April 17, 2009, 02:22:15 pm
Current 'Dex stats: 345 seen, 243 captured. This includes any and all legendaries. I don't think I'm doing half bad. ::)

304 seen, 284 captured.

@ddude - Sudowoodo I think are found in Route 221 in Platinum. For Happiny, you hatch the egg a Traveler gave you in Hearthome City. Or a Breeder in Route 209.

Would Ice Punch/Thunder Punch be a good option for Gallade?
I've seen about the same amount as you, but captured way less(which I'm working on. I'm almost up to 100 caught... Catching all of the water types currently.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 17, 2009, 02:32:25 pm
383 seen, 259 caught. I've been migrating Pokemon alot, and I'm going after a living Dex too =) I've got 150 caught in the Sinnoh Dex, but I've got a lot to evolve, so...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on April 17, 2009, 02:41:17 pm
I need: tips on capturing Uxie and Azelf, and to know where I can see: Happiny, Wormadam, and Elekid.
please help.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 17, 2009, 02:50:29 pm
... Uh... What were you talking about? *Looks up* Oh yes, the GTS. =) Hey, I've had a few good trades. Obtained a Rotom oddly named Piplup but seemingly fine other than that that I eventually traded off, but other than that it's pretty good. Annoying with the mass amounts of Shaymins being asked for now, but other than that, mostly it's just me not having any of the Pokemon needed, and Nintendo being stupid and hiding the level reqs. >_>

Ok then =)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on April 17, 2009, 03:00:58 pm
383 seen, 259 caught. I've been migrating Pokemon alot, and I'm going after a living Dex too =) I've got 150 caught in the Sinnoh Dex, but I've got a lot to evolve, so...
Wow. You have a lot...
I have yet to migrate any pkmn into Plat, but I've traded in between my Pearl using m bro's DS. It comes to be quite useful to have a second ds to work with, especially in completig the undergound quest...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 17, 2009, 03:02:34 pm
383 seen, 259 caught. I've been migrating Pokemon alot, and I'm going after a living Dex too =) I've got 150 caught in the Sinnoh Dex, but I've got a lot to evolve, so...
Wow. You have a lot...
I have yet to migrate any pkmn into Plat, but I've traded in between my Pearl using m bro's DS. It comes to be quite useful to have a second ds to work with, especially in completig the undergound quest...
That it does. ... Which is why I'm annoyed, because I don't have a second DS. =P SO, as of now, I don't have any way to get my Pokemon from Diamond to Platinum... =/ ....? How'd that happen? It posted this twice exactly the same way...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on April 17, 2009, 03:05:51 pm
is anyone going to answer my question?
I need to know where to see: Happiny, Elekid, and Wormadam.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on April 17, 2009, 03:13:23 pm
anyone know where I can add Krikitune and Wormadam as seen to my Pokedex?

Wormadam:
Route 213 I think - A  Beauty trainer has all 3 kinds of Wormadam on her team.
Or
Catch a FEMALE Burmy and raise it to Lvl. 20

Kricketune:
Can be found in the Trophy Garden, more common at night.
@ddude - Sudowoodo I think are found in Route 221 in Platinum. For Happiny, you hatch the egg a Traveler gave you in Hearthome City. Or a Breeder in Route 209.
A trainer on the Solaceon Town side of Route 210 has Elekid.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on April 17, 2009, 03:17:07 pm
OK, now all I need is Wormadam. (and to find a way to catch Azelf and Uxie)
EDIT: I found Wormadam!
pokedex is now: 201 out of 210.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 17, 2009, 03:17:49 pm
That was also mentioned in the last few pages ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on April 17, 2009, 03:20:26 pm
OK, now where are: Hippopotas, Hippowdon, and Ambipom?
EDIT: I found the Hippopotas and Hippodon. I now need Ambipom and Golem. (as seen, not caught).


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on April 17, 2009, 03:35:20 pm
Golem is held by Bertha of the E4.
Ambipom can be seen by a trainer on Route 216.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 17, 2009, 03:55:18 pm
Just battle everyone you can, you'll see everything that way ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on April 17, 2009, 04:01:37 pm
Just battle everyone you can, you'll see everything that way ;)
Yeah, I skipped an entire route accidentaly, but after I went through tha route I completed my Sinnoh Dex...

Dex= 325 seen and 104 caught(with a lot of multiples that I need to evolve 1-2 times.)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on April 17, 2009, 04:24:36 pm
finally, the only pokemon that I haven't seen is Rotem. anyone want to trade a Rotem for a Lucario?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 17, 2009, 04:40:59 pm
Just go to the Old Chateau at night ;) Rotom's in the TV.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on April 17, 2009, 04:54:49 pm
I don't have the patience. (that was a joke).


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on April 18, 2009, 11:50:43 am
I'm fuming that the Rotom Secret Key event is tomorrow, but I can't get Platinum...  yet... >:( :(


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 18, 2009, 11:55:22 am
Wait, why can't you get Platinum yet?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on April 18, 2009, 12:29:04 pm
I'm about to try to catch Heatran. any tips?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on April 18, 2009, 01:32:22 pm
I'm about to try to catch Heatran. any tips?
Bring 25 Dusk Balls(yeah, do it at night again), as well as a bunch of Ultra Balls just in case. It took me 4 dusk balls, but I may have been lucky.

Do the catching at night for a 4x catch rate w/ dusk balls, and either put it to sleep or paralyze it(sleep being better if you can).
Weaken it and try to get a False Swipe in if you can, although being part steel you'll have to have your Swipe user at a pretty high level.
If it woke up(if you put it to sleep first), then put it back to sleep and start throwing Dusk Balls.

Yeah, not much, mostly the same stuff for Uxie and Azelf, although the typing is different.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on April 18, 2009, 02:06:17 pm
Allow me to clear up Dusk Ball usage:

Dusk balls work best in dark areas. Usually this means nighttime.

However, because caves are dark, Dusk Balls have a 4x catch rate regardless of the time of day.

We all good now? Good. :)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on April 18, 2009, 02:22:20 pm
Don't they get 2x better if it's night and in a cave? if not, I've always found they work better for me at night and in caves at the same time...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on April 18, 2009, 02:40:22 pm
@HC-Did you hack through the E4?
If you were catching Heatran,you would have seen Golem.

Is ANYONE going to suggest a final pokemon for my team? Also,apparently i have to beat Colluseum to trade it too my GBASP,which i is too lazy to do. Anyone have another Water-type suggestion?

BTW-107 captured,293 seen. I also try to get the whole Evolutionary family,which i have done fairly well. Althoough,one caught was a hacked Shaymin which i released(guilt).


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 18, 2009, 02:42:53 pm
apparently i have to beat Colluseum to trade it too my GBASP,which i is too lazy to do.
If you want Quilava, Croconaw and Bayleef, you'll need to beat it anyway ;)

... I wish I had Colloseum/Gale of Darkness T_T


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on April 18, 2009, 02:54:09 pm
111 caught, 330 seen.

Currently training a Staraptor, lv 47, knows Close Combat, Fly, Aerial Ace and Agility. Yeah. I'm getting rid of Fly and Aerial Ace and replacing them with Brave Bird and Roost, maybe. 

I've seen all 5 runners(not that Cresselia and Mesprit were hard to see...). Caught a Scyther, and it was harder to catch that than Palkia or Heatran...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on April 18, 2009, 03:51:29 pm
@HC-Did you hack through the E4?
If you were catching Heatran,you would have seen Golem.

Is ANYONE going to suggest a final pokemon for my team? Also,apparently i have to beat Colluseum to trade it too my GBASP,which i is too lazy to do. Anyone have another Water-type suggestion?

BTW-107 captured,293 seen. I also try to get the whole Evolutionary family,which i have done fairly well. Althoough,one caught was a hacked Shaymin which i released(guilt).
I didn't hack! I just got REALLY lucky.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 18, 2009, 03:52:42 pm
You would've seen Golem if you had've gone through the E4... I think Bertha has one.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on April 19, 2009, 09:34:26 am
She does....mysterious......

My info was out-of-date on "Owned". I just said the first number i remembered. The REAL number,i believe,is 126.


Gonna play a little Emerald,so i can mirate the Regis.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 19, 2009, 09:40:48 am
She does....mysterious......

My info was out-of-date on "Seen". I just said the first number i remembered. The REAL number,i believe,is 126.


Gonna play a little Emerald,so i can mirate the Regis.


... You've only seen 126 Pokemon? >_> Go battle everyone, you need to see 210 Pokemon. Oh, and look in Mr. Backlot's book, you'll see Manaphy that way, who is one of the ones you need to see to unlock the National Dex.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on April 19, 2009, 09:42:10 am
Oh,my mistake. I meant OWNED 126 Pokemon.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 19, 2009, 10:13:00 am
Ah, ok, just checking. =)

Anyone happen to have a Movie Shaymin?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on April 19, 2009, 10:33:55 am
@Blade: Nope, no Shaymin for moi...

If I'm gonna go after a lv 1 Regigigas I'm gonna hafta trade the 3 regis from my pearl. I was too lazy to copy them all in emerald, so now I have only 1 regirock in emerald...

Where does one find a Staryu? And how do you make your rival lv up his pkmn?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 19, 2009, 10:38:12 am
@Blade: Nope, no Shaymin for moi...

If I'm gonna go after a lv 1 Regigigas I'm gonna hafta trade the 3 regis from my pearl. I was too lazy to copy them all in emerald, so now I have only 1 regirock in emerald...

Where does one find a Staryu? And how do you make your rival lv up his pkmn?
Q. 1: Canalave is an easy was to find one, go to the deck where the sailor is standing that takes you to Iron Island and Full Moon Island, and fish there ;)

Q. 2: I think it's either by beating the E4, or fighting him... Dunno =/


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on April 19, 2009, 12:36:38 pm
... I wish I had Colloseum/Gale of Darkness T_T
I haz both. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 19, 2009, 01:02:31 pm
... I wish I had Colloseum/Gale of Darkness T_T
I haz both. =P
You don't has Wi-Fi though =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on April 19, 2009, 01:06:56 pm
oooooohh. If you guys combined as one person you could be COMPLETE!


...or you could change MLNO into something crazy... lol.

I has neither.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 19, 2009, 01:42:00 pm
Or both.

Dudebot, you have Ruby, LeafGreen, or Pearl? If so, then ZLS would be right about the first part, since I'm lacking PBR, MPR, a Wii(That'd help), a Gamecube, Colloseum, Gale of Darkness, Ruby, Leafgreen, and Pearl. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on April 19, 2009, 11:36:46 pm
=O

*Did not know that*


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on April 20, 2009, 11:10:06 am
the secret key event starts  today!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on April 20, 2009, 02:39:46 pm
Quote
I have a Movie Shaymin (as Blade knows ::) ). 

To get your rival to strengthen, do the same think as in Diamond and Pearl.  Beat the Elite Four 20 times, and he'll get stronger. ;)
Thanks. I think I've beaten the E4 more than 10 times so far.

I have a Wii, but I don't have the pkmn game. And I have Game Cube, but same as Wii...

PKMN games that I own:

Red, Yellow
Crystal
Emerald
Pearl, Platinum

As you can see, I go for the 3rd game in each generation, with the exception of Pearl and Red(i got red for a birthday after I had yellow).


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: 0PureChaos0 on April 20, 2009, 02:42:31 pm
Quote
I have a Movie Shaymin (as Blade knows ::) ). 

So do I...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on April 20, 2009, 02:47:11 pm
You would've seen Golem if you had've gone through the E4... I think Bertha has one.
I did see Golem-I just didn't remember it.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on April 22, 2009, 05:38:26 pm
My current team:

Electivire lv 88
Togekiss lv 87
Leafeon lv 85
Weavile lv 78
Dusclops lv 60 (Dusknoir)
Kadabra lv 32 (Alakazam)

Poliwhirl lv 44
Sharpedo lv 72

top six are my main. I'm thinking of switching something for Poliwrath(once I evolve it). Just have to borrow my bro's DS soon to trade evolve Dusclops and Kadabra, although I'm waiting until Kadabra becomes lv 60... or 50 if I get lazy.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 23, 2009, 07:35:55 am
Anyone willing to trade/tradeback, or does anyone happen to have multiple Movie Shaymin?

Also, I'm gonna train an Infernape, but since I currently have no way to get IVs checked properly... I'm gonna have to go without that for now. Luckily it's not that hard to get more BP/Coins if I have to restart because it's got utterly horrible IVs. I've also decided to use it as a Sword Dance Sweeper, which will probably be the first time I actually use Sword Dance. =P

... I guess it would help if I had the right nature >_> *Goes back to breeding more*


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 23, 2009, 02:45:26 pm
Chimchar, once it's hatched, will be only level 1, and I don't know anyone else with Platinum, and I don't have a second DS, so...

*Is watching Pokemon Ranger and the Kidnapped Riolu* When'd Ash get a Growlithe? 0_o Or was that someone elses? It sounded like Ash's voice calling Growlithe out...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on April 23, 2009, 03:08:23 pm
If you go to Serebii, you can see notes on the Arceus movie. =O

And working on 252 stats is annoying. I've gone as far as I could with protein and carbos on my Sneasel, leaving 152 to go each... >_>
At least I got the 6 HP EVs already done, ^_^


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 23, 2009, 03:12:25 pm
Or you can go to the official site and see the epic trailer =O =O But, I wanna see the notes... =P

This movie will be very epic, I can tell you that...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on April 23, 2009, 03:22:01 pm
... I wish I had Colloseum/Gale of Darkness T_T
I haz both. =P
me too.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 23, 2009, 03:47:28 pm
Do you have Wi-Fi?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on April 24, 2009, 10:17:45 am
I do.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 25, 2009, 08:37:31 am
Hey, what does the Pokerus bonus multiply? Like, say I'm using a Power Bracer, and fighting the Pokemon that matches that EV, would I get double the amount of the Pokemon's EV handout, or the combined of that and the Power Bracer? I wanna know before I start training and mess up xP


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on April 25, 2009, 11:51:24 am
The Pokerus multiplies the final amount by 2. For example, if I have a Pokemon with Pokerus holding a Power Bracer, and fight a Gyarados (2 Atck EVs), Then I get 2(2+4) EVs. First you add up the Power Bracer's bonus EVs to the wild Pokemon's EVs, giving 6 EVs. The Pokerus multiplies this by two, thus 2(6), giving 12 bonus EVs. 

The formula is:
2(Opponent Pokemon's EVs + [If holding Power Object, give it 4 EVs depending on the Power Object, if not then it's 0])


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 25, 2009, 11:52:56 am
=D This'll help my training a lot.

And you still gain extra EVs after it's gone, right?

*Wishes I had the rest of the Power set now* xD


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on April 25, 2009, 11:55:55 am
How do I know if my pkmn has Pokerus?

And I'm gonna reset my Scisor's EVs to zero, then max out the Attack with Protein. What should my other EVs go to? Speed to make it a Sweeper or something else... And on the Attack matter, what do I EV train against?

... Beat my level upped rival today. Using Scisor and Togekiss only. Scisor is only Super Effected by fire!(just realised that...)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on April 25, 2009, 11:59:29 am
=D This'll help my training a lot.

And you still gain extra EVs after it's gone, right?

*Wishes I had the rest of the Power set now* xD

Even after the Pokerus is gone, your Pokemon afflicted will still have the bonus.

How do I know if my pkmn has Pokerus?

1. Go to your Pokemon's stats, and check for a Purple box over the Pokemon's sprite.
OR
2. Go to the Pokemon Center and let Nurse Joy heal your Pokemon. Nurse Joy will explain the Pokerus to you.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 25, 2009, 12:00:49 pm
And then he's 4x hit, and more than likely insta fainted. =P

You can't max out a single stat's EVs with just the vitamins ;) There's a cap of 100 EVs, or 10 Vitamins.

You'll have Nurse Joy say that they have Pokerus, and then from now on, you'll see an icon that says PkRs on your Pokemon's status screen as a big purple icon. I got it from Emerald, and possibly Plat itself(I still think it was from the Nincada I migrated, but I don't remember fighting with it in my Emerald Party... =/

B~T: Niiice =D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on April 25, 2009, 12:09:59 pm
Currently, I don't have a Pokemon with Pokerus  :(



Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 25, 2009, 12:12:19 pm
Dang =/ I could always get one to have it and send it I guess...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on April 25, 2009, 12:45:05 pm
And then he's 4x hit, and more than likely insta fainted. =P

You can't max out a single stat's EVs with just the vitamins ;) There's a cap of 100 EVs, or 10 Vitamins.

You'll have Nurse Joy say that they have Pokerus, and then from now on, you'll see an icon that says PkRs on your Pokemon's status screen as a big purple icon. I got it from Emerald, and possibly Plat itself(I still think it was from the Nincada I migrated, but I don't remember fighting with it in my Emerald Party... =/

B~T: Niiice =D
I will not let Scisor play w/ fire!

That's what I meant(max out the amount w/ proteins, then train), which is why I asked where to train for attack EVs. I think a bunch of my pkmn in Pearl have PkRs... Rayquaza, Blaziken, Swampert, Lati@s, and Tyranitar. All but Swampert are lv 100, and they didn't have it in Emerald...

And where do I go for attack EVs...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 25, 2009, 12:47:40 pm
Serebii says that Route 11 East with the Machoke and Bibarel is the recommended training place for attack.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on April 25, 2009, 01:10:53 pm
Let's see...

B~T's Guide to EV training (http://mln.smfforfree4.com/index.php/topic,2447.msg99091.html#msg99091)
B~T's guide to IVs (http://mln.smfforfree4.com/index.php/topic,2447.msg80975.html#msg80975)

Anything else I should add/worry about?

Check the second link for the EV Training Guide.
Also, if you have Pearl, the Purugly there will give 2 Speed EVs as well.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on April 25, 2009, 03:47:07 pm
Thanks. I have to grow a few more Kelpsy berries before I can start training for EVs. If I have it right, you need 11 berries to lower total EVs of a sta to zero right?
-1st one lowers EVs to 100,
2-11 lower total EVs by 10 each.

My Scisor is gonna end up with:
252 Attack
252 Speed
6 Defence

Techinician:
-Bullet Punch
-X Scissor
-Swords Dance
-Night Slash/something else.

It currently has everything but the EVs and a possible last move other than Night Slash. Technician raises Bullet Punch's power, and BP allows me to go first every time.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on April 27, 2009, 10:15:15 am
I now have a level 54 Slaking. Not thaat great with the Truant,but I'll live with it.

*prepares* I KNOW you are going to say it is banned from tournament play,because of the base stats and blah,blah,blah. I doubt i will ever enter a Tournament.

Pokerus? I never knew that was real(I believed it though).
Water type,what should i do.......Feebas?Hmmmmmmmm.......


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on April 27, 2009, 02:21:00 pm
My Scisor now has 252 Speed EVs(thanks to the Power item that boosts speed), almost 252 attack EVs( I trained it to have all 252, but I couldn't remove all of it's Special Defence EVs. I have to wait for more berries), and 6 defence EVs. I may try to train Electivire, since Scisor only took me a couple hours yesterday.
I trained against a cycler on the Cycle Road. He had a Farfetch'd, Dodrio and Staraptor. A total of 6 attack EVs per battle. VS seeker is really quite useful.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaand, my team(currently):
Electivire lv 92
Togekiss lv 91
Leafeon lv 90
Scisor lv 91
Weavile lv 79 (I know. I haven't trained it for a while...)

1 slot left. Probably a dragon(Salamance or Flygon?)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on April 27, 2009, 02:34:13 pm
What is Scizor's nature?

What are its IVs?

And how do you level your Pokemon that fast...  O_o



Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on April 27, 2009, 03:04:52 pm
-... it has docile nature ><

-I'll check it at lv 100(unless I can check them now, which I doubt because I am unsure of how many attack and sp defene EVs it has,
although once I remove sp defence EVs and max attack EVs it may be easier)

-Elite Four + Exp Share to start off. I begin EV training at high levels because I like to battle the E4. And I also battle the gym leaders a lot, and I do not train many pkmn(other than the five I mentioned, I have 5 lv 70+ pkmn(Empoleon, Sharpedo, Rapidash and Palkia and Dialga). Plus I play a lot(too much actually. I've put in over 100 hours on Platinum so far. In a while I'll be playing a lot less, and then my progress will slow down.)

My basic day on Platinum is basically this:
-Battle Gym Leaders + other trainer in the TTC
-Check for berries. Water as needed and pick when ripe.
-Get a massage from Veilstone lady(only for the dress up item that comes with it).
-Go to rival's house( not blondy, but the opposite of Dawn...) and check for swarms. Go catch swarmed pkmn if I don't have it already.
-Check villa for any new furniture(currently have everthing except for two things: one that I need to hatch 30 eggs to get and another that I need to walk 300 000 steps for(although I think they switched that one with another, because one thing at GameFaqs says you need five prints to get it but I have it))
-VS Seek a little bit

-I occasionaly battle the E4, but I haven't lately since I beat it 20 times
-Battle my rival(blondy) on the weekends.
-Go insearch of pkmn to add to my dex, which is currently:

Seen:352
Own:154

I've only traded a few things between my P/Pl: the three regis, Gallade and my Magmar and Electabuzz back and forth to evolve them. I don;t have wi-fi either.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on April 28, 2009, 04:00:44 pm
Ok,something weird here:

I went to Serbiiforums on my Dsi,and used the IV calculator. Well,i checked a Slakoth that i bred with my Slaking and Infernape. Here`s the weird part-i got 31 IVs in FOUR STATS,and 29 in the two others. Is that possible?

Although i MAY have put a 1 in front of some stats,accidentally

Also,it has gotten no EVs(the whole reason i tried to get this Slakoth was EV training) or experiance,level one.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on April 28, 2009, 05:10:47 pm
That's completely possible. Insanely rare, but completely possible. :)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on April 28, 2009, 05:23:12 pm
Ok,something weird here:

I went to Serbiiforums on my Dsi,and used the IV calculator. Well,i checked a Slakoth that i bred with my Slaking and Infernape. Here`s the weird part-i got 31 IVs in FOUR STATS,and 29 in the two others. Is that possible?

Although i MAY have put a 1 in front of some stats,accidentally

Also,it has gotten no EVs(the whole reason i tried to get this Slakoth was EV training) or experiance,level one.

That's not its true IVs. You have to level it up using Rare Candies to get a more accurate result, and then check its IVs.

Also, Slaking is NOT banned from competitive battle, since its ability saves it from being overused. Slaking is VERY powerful, and if used correctly, it can be a potent force on your team.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on April 28, 2009, 05:49:46 pm
Especially in a double battle. Team it with a pokemon with Skill Swap. It'll get rid of truant and Slaking will devastate the field. >=D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on April 28, 2009, 05:56:09 pm
Especially in a double battle. Team it with a pokemon with Skill Swap. It'll get rid of truant and Slaking will devastate the field. >=D

Doesn't that remind me of an Ace Trainer Duo in Evergrande City's Victory Road?  Heh.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on April 28, 2009, 08:34:12 pm
*Shrugs*

I dunno. I just know it'd be an insane combo. I know an even more insane combo using Skill Swap, but it's crazy. And although I've never used it, it should leave you untouchable. >=D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 29, 2009, 07:37:00 am
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but the opposite of Dawn...
Lucas? =P

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(currently have everthing except for two things: one that I need to hatch 30 eggs to get and another that I need to walk 300 000 steps for(although I think they switched that one with another, because one thing at GameFaqs says you need five prints to get it but I have it))
Already got that when I was on my Chimchar spree =P I still need a few others though >_>

Dudebot: What, Spiritomb or Sableye+ Shedinja+ Skill Swap? =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on April 29, 2009, 02:21:28 pm
Something tells me that's it,Blade.

Does anyone have a good moveset for a Slaking? Or a Water Type,besides Feraligatr?

These are funny if you play a lot of Pokemon:
http://www.brawlinthefamily.com/comic080.html
http://www.brawlinthefamily.com/comic018.html


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on April 29, 2009, 02:23:50 pm
Quote
but the opposite of Dawn...
Lucas? =P
Yeah. That's the one  :P

Quote
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(currently have everthing except for two things: one that I need to hatch 30 eggs to get and another that I need to walk 300 000 steps for(although I think they switched that one with another, because one thing at GameFaqs says you need five prints to get it but I have it))
Already got that when I was on my Chimchar spree =P I still need a few others though >_>
I've hatched... 3-4 eggs... does the Eevee egg count?
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Dudebot: What, Spiritomb or Sableye+ Shedinja+ Skill Swap? =P
That's what I was thinking. Skill swap has it's uses. I can think of many good uses for it, such as Regigas + skill swap.

Currently I'm EV training my Electivire. What do your guys teams currently looking like?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 29, 2009, 02:30:02 pm
And just how did you get Lucas as your rival...? =P

Yeah, any eggs hatching count ;)

Meh, I'm currently just mass breed/evolving the Pokemon I have so I can complete my Dex, but I'll be training at least a Chimchar and a Gallade(Yeah, yeah, overlapping types, but both have their uses, and it's hard to find a good non-fighting Fire type these days =P) when I can. Finally got a Jolly Chimchar...

But my other team is kinda scattered in my PC to prevent the Pokerus they're infected with from going away =P

Also, if anyone with Wi-Fi wants the Johto starters, give me a heads up and I'll breed them and send them your way =)

Hey, anyone run into any Shinies yet?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on April 29, 2009, 02:58:44 pm
Ok,i just Read on Bulbapedia:

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Wonder Guard and Multitype are the only abillities that CANnOt be Skill Swaped


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 29, 2009, 03:43:37 pm
Hmm, interesting... Well, at least they did, that'd be devastating on the two Pokemon I mentioned, they have no weaknesses xD


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 29, 2009, 04:21:33 pm
... You found your DS? When'd you lose it? And does this mean that people may actually get to have Wi-Fi battles with you again? Oh, and if there's a future game that can trade with D/P/Pt, I expect to battle you Mata Nui, once I get my competitive team planned out and ready(I need it for the Battle Frontier anyway, so what the heck, why not start now =P).

Also... What would people say to maybe there being a Pokemon D/P/Pt tournament here in a few months? Maybe the summer when people have time to train, or the fall when people are back from trips?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on April 29, 2009, 05:48:18 pm
@Blade-yes,if they,say,do Johto remakes*crosses fingers* I'll battle you RIGHT AFTER him.

Hmm....not opposed to it,but i don't get wi-fi,at least until the next Pokemon game,since,with the compatibility of the Dsi,Nintendo will most likely make it WPA compatible,opening up some oppurtunities for me. Now that you mention it,the competitive NATIONAL tournaments start in May,meaning you can battle other people on their Ds....well,plural of DS. Also,anyone who enters gets a free Shiny Milotic,lvel 50. If you're wondering how i know this,i go to Bulbanews A LOT.

TOTALLY overhaulin' my team. This is what it'l look like:
Lucario(for strength)
Alakazam(for Sp. Attack and Skill Swap,i really hoped Lucario could learn it,but this works)
Charizard(migrated a Charmander today. EV training will be Speed and Sp. Attack,and a little HP.)
Slaking(but you knew that)
Electivire(I would NEVER ditch him,and keep in mind,i ditched my starter! Also,he now knows Ice Punch.)
Water Type,possibly Feraligatr(I decided,despite my laziness,I am gonna beat Coluseum for several rare Pokemon,and for something to do)

A few questions regarding EVs:
Are there 512 max EPs,or 510?
How do you guys keep track of your EPs? Seems kinda hard...

and,last but not least,any movset suggestions for al my Pokemon,other than Electivire(Alakazam MUST have Skill Swap)?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 29, 2009, 05:54:58 pm
Yeah, I knew about that tourney, I think I may have a good prize too, but I'm gonna keep that until the end, since it involves the top 4/5(I haven't decided yet) people's prizes ;). If I can get a good way to get multiples of something, I may give that out as a participation prize(Chikorita maybe?), and they'll(Or at least the top prizes) will be eggs now that I know I can trade them =)

But, since I'm planning this tourney, and kinda would like to participate, I think I'll keep my team a secret as much as I can.

Oh, and ParaFlinch is awesome. Got a ParaFlincher in Emerald's Slateport battle tent through my new playthrough. And it was an Electrike. Yet it still worked. First turn: paralyzed. Second Turn: The opponent flinched!

I don't remember the Pokemon I was facing >_>

Missed the first part: Well, since they're kinda looking likely, we might just get that wish. >=D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on April 29, 2009, 08:26:57 pm
WAA!!! :'(

I got a Cyndaquil with Hidden Power Water! I wanted Hidden Power Grass or Ice, but it HAD to be Water!

I also have a Cyndaquil with Hidden Power Ice, but its IVs in Defense and Sp. Defense is HORRID.

Does anyone have a recommended moeset for Typhlosion that doesn't involve Hidden Power?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: 0PureChaos0 on April 30, 2009, 06:23:34 am
Ok,something weird here:

I went to Serbiiforums on my Dsi,and used the IV calculator. Well,i checked a Slakoth that i bred with my Slaking and Infernape. Here`s the weird part-i got 31 IVs in FOUR STATS,and 29 in the two others. Is that possible?

Although i MAY have put a 1 in front of some stats,accidentally

Also,it has gotten no EVs(the whole reason i tried to get this Slakoth was EV training) or experiance,level one.

That's not its true IVs. You have to level it up using Rare Candies to get a more accurate result, and then check its IVs.

Also, Slaking is NOT banned from competitive battle, since its ability saves it from being overused. Slaking is VERY powerful, and if used correctly, it can be a potent force on your team.

Especially if you use Gastroid acid on it. >:D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 30, 2009, 07:19:17 am
B~T: Ouch =/

PureChaos: Yeah, that and SkillSwap are very useful in Double Battles ;)

Eh, with what I've been seeing in the team assembly department, this may actually be a good tourney, but it's your decision =) If you're sitting out, I would like a few suggestions of course for my team, since I haven't even started it yet =P

About the tourney:

When would be a good time to start the tourney?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on April 30, 2009, 03:15:25 pm
You should start the tournement when I get Wi-Fi... no, don't wait for me. My parents are deciding on wether or not to get a new comp(and keep the current one), in which case we'd get wireless internet(which I could use as wi-fi, hopefully).

As for double battles, the entire strategy changes. You need to pair up your team so that it works really well together(eg. Tyranitar/Hippodon combined w/ someone that has Sand vail etc.) One of my favourite combos is having Electivire and a Volt absorber working together, each w/ discharge. Electivire's Speed raises each turn, and the volt aborber heals each turn. Then there's all the moves that aren't used in single battles(or mostly aren't used), like Skill Swap, Gastro Acid etc.

@Blade: I've played as a female ever since crystal... the guy always looks weird, and I can't come up w/ a good guy name. Usually I name my char after the version(I've been Crystal, Emerald, Diamond(cause Pearl is a bad name...) and not Platinum(it didn't fit)).
I'm hoping Electivire doesn't grow to lv 100 before I'm done EV training. He's currently lv 93 w/ 136/252 Atk and 100/252 Spd...

And ParaFlinch is awesome(especially w/ Togekiss's ability).


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on April 30, 2009, 03:34:07 pm
To avoid that,just go to Sandgem town,head up and battle Shinx and Starly endlessly.....boring but effective.

I don't need movesets anymore,i just google "moveset for (Pokemon)",then it gives me SerbiiForums,and all of my Pokemon have been "Pokemon of the week/day",giving me multiple movesets.

Won the Battle Castle print....wasn't really a great victory,though. BARELY won.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on April 30, 2009, 03:39:14 pm
the silver print? Yeah, no one has seemed to get a great victory on this one yet. I lost the first time I tried it...

Starly and Shinx... Starly gives speed and Shinx gives atk right? I don't need speed yet. I have the power anklet, so with 38 battles I should have speed maxed out. I'll just battle enough pkkmn to get atk 38 from the max, then battle 38 pkmn who give out 1 atk EV while training w/ the power anklet.



Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on April 30, 2009, 03:48:30 pm
Sigh....for some reason Lucario has struggled with doing damage.....it takes him three or for attacks t obeat a pokemon 6 levels above him.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on April 30, 2009, 08:25:06 pm
As much as I'd like to participate, I haz no Wi-fi. >_<

Perhaps it's something for me to look into figuring out. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on April 30, 2009, 08:25:09 pm
Curent trainee team:
Alakazam-I have him. That's it. I did get him Skill Swap though,MILD accomplishment...
Charizard-level 37,progressing nicely...
Lucario-level 20...hasn't exactly panned out yet. Used my BP to buy a ton of Proteins and Carboses,making the EV training MUCH easier.
Vigoroth-level 18-the real training sttarts when he evolves.....
Electivire-level 73.....at least i don't have to train him that much...
Water-type-http://www.brawlinthefamily.com/comic102.html  the last panel describes my feelings....

How is summer busy for you?

I am curious about Gold/Silver remakes....no OFFICIAL news,but they seem likely....the 12th movie features the three Johto starters.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on April 30, 2009, 09:18:05 pm
It will take me a while to formulate a team if I ever get to do competitive battling.



Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 01, 2009, 07:41:23 am
RG1: Ah, ok =) And Pearl's for the Rival =P And for Platinum, Platina would've fit, and is the name of the third char in the Pokemon Special manga in Japan.

Haven't tried that out yet, but I'd think so =D

MN1: Yeah, two of my Pokemon(I forget if another that I was gonna pick is one as well) have been Pokemon of the week/day, so that helps me there =)

Battle Castle: Haven't gotten that far into that one yet, waiting for a better team =)

Yeah, I was just referencing the talk about the abilities ;)

First half? Sounds good to me. I think I could get my stuff trained by then ;)(If I can even figure out what to use) The only problem for me would be IVs, since I don't have a true practical way to find them out...

And I agree, there are a bit small when I think about them... =P

Dudebot: Yes, it might be. Plus, it's not just useful for this, but it's awesome for this. =D

MN2: Plus, apparently there's something that features something about Battle Revolution on one part, and a Totodile on another... Which is interesting, because Totodile hasn't been practically available for a while.

Oh, I've been getting some ideas for that recently from a few pages. Also, think about this; why would a 2nd generation Baby Pokemon and three 2nd gen starters be featured in a movie? Plus, we haven't even had a glimpse of the 5th gen yet, which we'd usually see by now. And with the release of the DSi, if Nintendo started to phase out the DS Lites and such, it'd be a perfect time for them to release GSDS.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 01, 2009, 10:37:40 am
@Blade

Yeah,as the Dsi rips us away from dual slot.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 01, 2009, 11:25:43 am
Yeah, but for me, it's not that bad a thing, as I've almost got all the Emerald/Sapphire/FireRed stuff and have already got an old DS... But, that still doesn't answer the availability of the starters and such. Sure, Emerald and Colo/xDXD has the Johto starters, but XD/Colo were released back around 2005 or so, and since not many have it or could get it now, they need an easier way to get them. And not everyone has a way to get all the Hoenn Dex Pokemon in Emerald, like me.(Speaking of which, anyone happen to have a Zangoose? Since I don't have Ruby, I have absolutely no way to get one >_> Same with any other Ru exclusive Pokemon that aren't in Emerald, though... I don't actually think there are any others.) And there's also the fact that you can only get 1 starter from Emerald. Plus, Ho-oh and Lugia, who aren't easy to get in Colo/XD respectively. You need to beat Mount Battle in Colo for Ho-Oh, and purify Shadow Lugia which is pretty hard to pull off if you don't know how to. Plus, there's the same stuff about Colo/XD for the Johto Starters, in the fact that not everyone has it/can get it. Plus, it'd make certain Johto Pokemon easier to get(... Anyone happen to see Miltank around?), and possibly some Kanto Pokemon(Anyone know the chances of finding a Tauros in a Honey Tree or the Kanto Safari Zone?). Plus, Platinum explains where the 3 birds from Kanto went, and has tons of references to Johto, like the Happiny egg guy's reference to Elm, the Red Gyarados reference, Jasmine showing up in the electric gym town, among others. And the anime seems to have an awful amount of Johto references from what I've heard(Including May's return from Johto and referencing that).

Also, not related to that... Is it just me, or in the battle against Crasher Wake, did Brock have Lucas' platinum jacket on? 0_o


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 01, 2009, 12:46:24 pm
...you looked at Bulbapedia,didn't you? All those reasons are listed at BP for potential Johto remakes...pretty good arguement actually.....

My team in Johto would be:
Cyndaquil Family
Heracross
Murkrow Family
Mantine family
Aipom  Family
Grass type(Eggzecutor?Sunflora?)

That reigon is not going to get an HM slave outta me. I would probably just bring one in my party when i needed it,then switch it back out with the sixth pokemon.

If nintendo DOESN'T make any remakes,they would be making a HUGE mistake.



Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 01, 2009, 12:52:39 pm
... Yes. But I also feel the same. Plus there's the big Johto Data Location thing, and apparently there's two of them, and since when there's been two or three, it's corresponded to a version apparently... And I had been wondering why the birds were in Plat, and that does explain it, like why the birds instead of Entei, Raikou, and Suicune? And then there's the fact that I fall into "Can't get Colo/XD" category >_> No Wii/GC, and Colo/XD all out of stores by now probably.

I dunno what mine'd be yet, since they could change up what's available due to them probably adding a Johto Dex type of thing....

And you're right, since a) I think everyone's internal battery is dead by now, and b) everyone wants them, it seems to be a lot of people's favourite region, and Johto is awesome.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 01, 2009, 01:46:30 pm
I know.

Notably,a large amount of Johto Pokemon got new evolutionary lines,possibly opening up stronger pokemon in Johto.

Yeah,the whole "location data" thing seems to push this thing from speculation to possibility. Although,they WERE hacked pokemon,meaning the hacker easily could have done that to fool us.



Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 01, 2009, 01:51:39 pm
No, because you can't hack stuff into the game that isn't already in there. DSes don't lie. You can fake images, but you can't hack stuff in that's not already there, and if someone with one of those hacked Pokemon traded it to one of us, it'd say the Johto location still.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 01, 2009, 01:54:17 pm
I'll keep an eye on Bulbapedia,though i doubt we'd hear news of this within the next 8 months.....

You know,the Japaneese are lucky. They get EVERYTHING before we do.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 01, 2009, 02:14:43 pm
1. I'd actually say we may be hearing news of it possibly soon, as we get news of what the role of the starters and Heatran is in the movie. Plus, Notched Ear Pichu gives credit because it's a 2nd gen and not a fifth gen, and isn't in D/P/Pt.

2. That's because the make the game, and it takes a while to translate =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 01, 2009, 02:17:23 pm
Yeah.

If they do make it,i hope they make the Dogs easier to catch. And they make it possible to get Ho-oh and Lugia,my two favorite Legendaries(next to Groudon,as Ruby was my first Pokemon game,ah,so many memories....) .


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 01, 2009, 02:41:23 pm
Meh, they'll probably still run, since G/S/C was the first to include that, and there's been at least one runner in every mainstream game since(Including FR/LG, even they included a runner of sorts, which is... *gasp* Entei, Raikou, or Suicune depending on your starter, though I'm wondering if that's actually part of the storyline canon, since they're supposed to be sleeping in the Burnt Tower then...). But, if they have a touchscreen app like in Plat, it shouldn't be that hard, and probably will have something like in G/S/C that you can walk forward and back between.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on May 01, 2009, 02:42:19 pm
(... Anyone happen to see Miltank around?)
(Anyone know the chances of finding a Tauros in a Honey Tree or the Kanto Safari Zone?)

Miltank is available in Emerald in the extended Safari Zone. I forgot if it is in the North or South.
Aren't Tauros found with a Pokeradar?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 01, 2009, 02:45:38 pm
... I knew I shouldn't've restarted Emerald yet. xD Anywhere in Plat?

I couldn't tell PokeRadar from Honey Trees, since they use that orange thing for both.

Oh yes, I started a new Pokemon epic, comments would be nice =) (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,3333.new.html#new)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on May 01, 2009, 02:55:03 pm
Both Miltank and Tauros are found on the Solaceon side of 210, using a Pokeradar. ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: lionytai on May 02, 2009, 04:24:15 am
Can I talk about pokemon game boy silver and gold?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 02, 2009, 10:14:23 am
Yeah, this is a topic for all the games and stuff >_>


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on May 02, 2009, 10:48:33 am
I just found out my new Sneasel (Lost the EV charts on my old one) has 28 IVs in Atk and 20 in HP. The others are too horrible to mention, including Spd having a saddening 3. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 02, 2009, 10:57:56 am
Meh, my Jolly Chimchar had 30 in attack...

But 1 in Speed. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on May 02, 2009, 11:01:57 am
My Swinub has 31 IVs in Attack, but 6 in Speed  :'( .


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 02, 2009, 11:03:11 am
Ouch.

So, how am I supposed to get a better Ditto? I only have one, and I don't even know if it has the best nature... =/


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: 0PureChaos0 on May 02, 2009, 11:06:35 am
Meh, my Jolly Chimchar had 30 in attack...

But 1 in Speed. =P

You wouldn't believe this then!

my Turtwig has a 35 in speed, but 10 in attack! O_o
                my bad, 30


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 02, 2009, 11:12:21 am
You Turtwig has a 35? There's only 31 total per stat though...

Epic. Win.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on May 02, 2009, 11:14:48 am
Ouch.

So, how am I supposed to get a better Ditto? I only have one, and I don't even know if it has the best nature... =/

1. In, Emerald, get a Jolly Pokemon with Synchronize, and a Pokemon with a high capture rate that DOESN'T have Teleport/Roar/etc. Go to the Underground Passage West of Fallarbor town.

2. In D/P/Pt, Pokeradar Route 218, with the same Pokemon requirements in Emerald.

Both: Get a Jolly Ditto with 31 IVs in Speed by continuously catching Ditto.

0PC0 - Are you sure? Pokemon don't have 35 IVs in a stat.  


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 02, 2009, 11:18:59 am
1. I knew I shouldn't have restarted Emerald yet. xD What do you mean a Pokemon with a high capture rate that doesn't have those moves?

2. I think the Dittos moved in Plat to the Trophy Garden... >_>''


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on May 02, 2009, 11:23:26 am
Correct. The main way to get them in Plat is to talk to the TG owner and wait for him to talk about Ditto.

B~T's correct as far as D/P go, though. ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on May 02, 2009, 11:32:01 am
1. I knew I shouldn't have restarted Emerald yet. xD What do you mean a Pokemon with a high capture rate that doesn't have those moves?

2. I think the Dittos moved in Plat to the Trophy Garden... >_>''

When Ditto uses Transform, it will take the opponent's moves along with its capture rate. It should not have moves like Roar because Ditto will then use Transform to copy Roar, and there is a chance that the battle will end without you catching it.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 02, 2009, 11:35:45 am
Ooh, nice. Now if only it would appear >_> He didn't see it today again. >_>


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on May 02, 2009, 11:42:26 am
There is a way to get Trophy Garden exclusive Pokemon.
1. Buy a lot of repels.'
2. Get a Lvl 18 Pokemon in the front of your party and a Pokemon with a Status-inducing move, along with False Swipe. Also get a Pokemon with a High capture rate WITHOUT Roar/Whirwind/Teleport.
3. Use the repel. This will only let you get Pikachus and the Trophy Garden Pokemon.
4. When you meet with a TG Pokemon, switch to a Pokemon with a high Capture rate. Ditto will then copy the High Capture Rate Pokemon.
5. Switch out to a Pokemon with False Swipe and a Status inducing move. Use these moves, and catch Ditto.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 02, 2009, 11:52:15 am
The problem is that Ditto's not in the Garden though...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on May 02, 2009, 11:57:00 am
Save before you talk to Mr. Backlot. Keep soft-resetting until he mentions Ditto.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 02, 2009, 11:58:19 am
Ah... Well, now I have to wait for tomorrow for that >_>


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: 0PureChaos0 on May 02, 2009, 12:31:52 pm
Ah... Well, now I have to wait for tomorrow for that >_>

If you don't reset your DS clock. :P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 02, 2009, 12:38:58 pm
Yeah, last time I did that to get the last of my Firered Pokemon to Plat so I could restart it, I couldn't do anything for a few days time based. >_>

So, me and B~T had a battle last night, and since I was on Plat, I recorded it with the Vs. Recorder.

Here's the ID for the video: 23-05957-25831


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on May 02, 2009, 03:34:40 pm
Porygon - #137 (Timid)
HP:    24
Att:   28
Def:   13
SpA:   29
SpD:   18
Speed: 31
Timid #137 Porygon: 24 / 28 / 13 / 29 / 18 / 31

I am a bit skeptical on whether I should trade Porygon for a Porygon2, since I only have acess to one UpGrade and one Dubious Disc. Should I, or shouldn't I?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 02, 2009, 03:37:51 pm
What are you using it as? It looks like it may be decent...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on May 02, 2009, 03:50:04 pm
I'm trying to get a Porygon Z.
But I only have one of each item, so I can't decide whether to trade or not.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 02, 2009, 03:51:11 pm
No, I mean, which kind of Porygon-Z you looking at getting?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on May 02, 2009, 03:55:21 pm
I am going for a Nasty Plot sweeper...

Nasty Plot
Tri Attack
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt



Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 02, 2009, 04:01:21 pm
Well, I'd think that the IVs are good, but to switch up Thunderbolt with Dark Pulse to take out the Ghosts that may try and block you ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 02, 2009, 08:59:09 pm
Here's info on a new Pokemon game(VAST potenial to be Gold/Silver remakes):
Quote
Several media outlets have revealed that the announcement of a major, popularly-discussed Pokémon game will be made later this month. Pokémon Sunday is set to unveil the title May 10.

The show's official Web site describes the contents of next week's episode as "a worldwide first announcement and a worldwide first big scoop". The upcoming issues of CoroCoro and Nintendo Dream, which are Japanese magazines, have likewise been disclosed and are known to contain information regarding a "much-talked-about big title", although it is not directly stated that a Pokémon game is involved. Both magazine issues will be released after the airing of Pokémon Sunday.

Furthermore, the most recent episode previewed the annnouncement by showing two balls: one gold and one silver. Based on this as well as the fact that the game is said to have been the center of much speculation, many fans believe that the announcement will pertain to two titles: the Pokémon Gold and Silver remakes. It is also theorized that Junichi Masuda will appear on the show to make the announcement, since he did so both last month and the month prior in regard to other game-related scoops.
 

From Bulbanews.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on May 02, 2009, 10:17:05 pm
Even moar support for the theories! =D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 02, 2009, 10:20:31 pm
Yeah! I have a REALLY good feeling about this,and i am very good with good feelings!

If they are remakes,i will mark every day on my calendar as one day closer(i.e.,July 24,x  number of days to games) because:
A.I love Johto,favorite reigon
B.I will FINALLY be able to pwn batlle lose to all of you!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on May 02, 2009, 10:23:12 pm
Not to mention we'd be crossing Diamond with G/S/C. Imagine the graffix and updates! >=D

Edit/ This could also be the fix to the "missing Celebi" problem! =O


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 02, 2009, 10:30:02 pm
Not to mention the semi-missing Ho-oh/Lugia problem!

I need to start formulating a team! This is almost guarented now!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on May 02, 2009, 10:37:22 pm
Ho-oh/Lugia can be caught in the Collusiem games, FR/LG, and Emerald. .)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 02, 2009, 10:39:02 pm
Yes,but by event/VERY difficult conditions.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on May 02, 2009, 10:48:38 pm
Not to mention we'd be crossing Diamond with G/S/C. Imagine the graffix and updates! >=D

Edit/ This could also be the fix to the "missing Celebi" problem! =O
and maybe some new areas? such as the Sevii Islands, the previously Japan only Burned Tower roof, the Kanto radio tower, and the rest of the soul house?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on May 02, 2009, 10:49:25 pm
I still think that Celebi would still be an event Pokemon exclusively for the Gold/Silver remakes though.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on May 02, 2009, 10:51:07 pm
yeah, a mystery gift. instead of getting a secret key, you get the GS ball!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 03, 2009, 08:25:40 am
yeah, a mystery gift. instead of getting a secret key, you get the GS ball!
Might be interesting.

News: ! =D =D =D The fact that those two gold and silver things are mentioned adds credit, the fact that the three Johto starters are in the movie adds credit, the fact it's a heavily talked about game adds credit, the Johto Location makes the theory up technically, and the massive amounts of Johto References in the animes and games just adds credibility. =D

Oh, from Serebii:
Quote
New Game Announcement

Earlier today, in the Pokémon Sunday variety show and it's website, it was announced that, during their episode next week, they shall reveal a world-exclusive bit of news. Their website states this will be done within the Game Area of their show so it is more than likely a brand new game. There is much speculation as to what the game is, with the general consensus being a Gold/Silver remake which does match up with some new figures of Chikorita, Cyndaquil & Totodile being released in Japan on September 19th 2009, but nothing is confirmed yet, so if you see other sites reporting it as a specific game, remember it is not confirmed that it is that game. CoroCoro is also due out soon after that so that should also contain information on the game announcement. We'll bring you more on this as it happens so keep your eyes here

Figures = Like the preorder offer for Plat?

Either way... In a week, we'll find out.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 03, 2009, 09:48:32 am
Okay,i am basically convinced it is Gold/Silver now. But if it isn't,and they make a new reigon,something tells me they will never make G/S/C remakes EVER. They will just be too far ahead.

My planned Johto Team:
Feraligatr
Heracross
Houndoom
Crobat
Miltank
Electabuzz/Electivire(not sure if the Pokemon will be able to evolve into their Sinnoh evolutions)

I coulda gone with Magmar,but Houndoom was pretty effective for Darach against me. And the beauty of Miltank is that if it doesn't work out,it can become my HM Slave. Plus,Milk Drink can get some of my pokemon out of the REd HP zone,after a tough battle,if there is a long road ahead.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on May 03, 2009, 10:01:46 am
I hope it has all the features of crystal, and not just G/S.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 03, 2009, 10:03:39 am
Yeah. You know,Nintendo has DawnSilver and DuskGold(the names)trademarked,but with no real proof. Perhaps....?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 03, 2009, 10:08:15 am
Meh, they probably will be, it may just take until after the National Dex if it follows FR/LG.

So, since I decided that it was just too much of a change for Blue to have Bulbasaur/Ivysaur/Venusaur in FireRed, I'm gonna restart, and make it be Red now(And also maybe get the rest of Red's Pokemon. =P). Sets it back a bit, but meh.

Funny thing is that Green had Charmander and it's evolutions in FireRed, so his party was fine. =P

It's too soon after Plat to be a new region, or this'll be the shortest generation(Betaing Gen 2) apparently.

Herochild: The only problem with that is that it's a third game, so... The Battle Tower at least will probably be back, but more than likely not the storyline focused on Suicune... Could be wrong of course.

Mata Nui: I dunno if that was ever proved though...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on May 03, 2009, 10:20:25 am
well, I'd like to see my prior suggestions, a battle frontier, and Eusine.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 03, 2009, 10:22:04 am
DEFINITLY Eusine. I need someone other than my rival worth batttling.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 03, 2009, 10:23:29 am
I personally think a Battle Frontier would be a bit much, seeing as there was just one in Platinum... But who knows.

Eusine probably won't be in unless the extended Crystal storyline is in... But it would be interesting to have that in, so you don't get the Rainbow Wing so easily.

Also... You know what I realized? If this is a remake, and includes the Kanto and Mount Silver stuff as it should... We'll get Fourth Gen sprites of Red and Green/Blue. =O

Mata Nui: Red. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on May 03, 2009, 11:41:56 am
Electabuzz/Electivire(not sure if the Pokemon will be able to evolve into their Sinnoh evolutions)

If there is Elekid in the Johto Pokedex, then so there will be the 4th Gen evolutions. Hopefully not like FireRed/LeafGreen, where you can only get the final Evolutions after the Nat. Dex.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 03, 2009, 11:45:28 am
Electabuzz/Electivire(not sure if the Pokemon will be able to evolve into their Sinnoh evolutions)

If there is Elekid in the Johto Pokedex, then so there will be the 4th Gen evolutions. Hopefully not like FireRed/LeafGreen, where you can only get the final Evolutions after the Nat. Dex.
You never know... I mean, this has only happened once before, and the other times, the evolutions have been included in the regional Dexes(RSE/DPPt).

I'm trying for a replica of Red's Bulbasaur... It doesn't want to give me the right nature... >_> I'm gonna have an even harder time with Poli, because it'll need the right nature and ability -_-'


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on May 03, 2009, 11:51:22 am
Also... You know what I realized? If this is a remake, and includes the Kanto and Mount Silver stuff as it should... We'll get Fourth Gen sprites of Red and Green/Blue. =O
Along with the Kanto updates and whatnot... =O

Anyone else note it strange that Blue gets Blastoice, but Red gets Venasaur and Green gets Charzard? =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 03, 2009, 11:56:28 am
Yeah. Of course, that gets all sorted out for a bit when Green and Red trade their starters in the FR/LG saga temporarily, but the point still stands =P(asdfgh still no Gentle Bulbasaur.)

Yeah =O I wonder if this version'll have Viridian Forest?

YES. Finally got Red's Gentle Bulbasaur.(Well, as close as I can get of course ;))


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on May 03, 2009, 03:28:20 pm
3 pages while I was gone...

I would definately get a gold/silver remake, although I hope they add an extended crystal ending afterwards...

I has a lv 100 Zangoose... i like that pkmn a lot.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 03, 2009, 03:38:27 pm
Oh hey, apparently it actually happens on May the 9th... But since it'll probably take a little while to translate... We should get the news on the 10th =)

Anyone else as excited as I am? Even though we all know it'll take around a year to come out here? =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on May 03, 2009, 04:02:34 pm
oooooh yeah, crystal was my favorite pokemon game ever.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 03, 2009, 04:04:51 pm
... You do realize I meant 'the info on this announcement is released' when I said 'actually happens', right? And that this isn't confirmed by any means?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on May 03, 2009, 04:05:52 pm
I know.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 03, 2009, 05:59:33 pm
I'm gonna try and think up a Johto team over the next week, any suggestions? I'd like to stick with Pokemon that were in the original Johto Dex, for old time's sake.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on May 03, 2009, 08:47:31 pm
Frankly, I don't remember much of my time in Johto, and my Gold version won't save for some reason. >_<

Guess I'll have to relive things with my sister's Silver version. ::)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on May 03, 2009, 09:23:29 pm
in fact, almost every gold version made failed looooooooong before the silver and crystal versions.
yes, but you cannot deny that Kanto seemed half-built. I mean, look at the soul house, where other rooms are mentioned and you cannot enter them. or the underground, or the safari zone, or the kanto radio tower..


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 04, 2009, 07:19:56 am
Gotta split that huge post of yours into pieces. =P First: That's actually kind of ironic when you think about it. xD

Second: True, but why else would four Johto Pokemon seem to have a starring role in a movie, that could've been used to house a gen five Pokemon or two?

Three: Yeah, I heard the speculative community on Serebii got itself all ready. =P

Four: I agree. And maybe give battles a bit more speed like in Plat, and speed the running shoes up a bit more?(Also, is it just me, or does the Bike seem slower in fourth gear compared to Diamond and Pearl? =/)

Five: ??? I heard that Kanto got massively downsized in G/S/C... But, I'm pretty sure with the amount of space the DS has compared to the Game Boy Colour games, they could fit both an enhanced Johto, an enhanced Kanto that is a bit upgraded, and possibly maybe an additional thing?

Dudebot: You must be another of the victims of the dead internal battery, I think that's a side effect of it... =/ But, that'll help =P

Herochild: You sure? I thought they all died around the same time except for Crystals, which were released later, and probably worked more.

Don't forget Viridian Forest and Mount Moon. ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on May 04, 2009, 09:29:57 am
very sure. all of the gold versions that I bought died after a few days, (they were already old), my silver version still works fine, and so does my crystal, and at the used game store near me, they have almost 20 dead gold versions compared to 4 dead silver versions.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on May 04, 2009, 02:37:09 pm
If they do remake G/S/C(well, maybe not C cause it's a remake, but it'd be nice) I hope they include Kanto, but have an exceptionnaly well done Johto. Having a battle frontier would be nice, but they could include that in the Sevii islands, so as to not disturb Johto, but add on to FR/LG. And Mt Silver returning would be a must.
I think my team in a Johto version would be: (brackets contain pkmn that were added after G/S/C were released, but were evolutions of GSC pkmn)
Feraligatr
Murkrow(Honchcrow)
Ursaring
Tyranitar
Magmar(Magmortar)
Electabuzz(Electivire)

...turned out a lot like my current team, sadly... Maybe I'm just not original, or I've forgotten about a lot of the GSC pkmn...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 04, 2009, 06:56:36 pm
Hm...maybe you should go to Bulbapedia and see the Johto Dex.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on May 04, 2009, 07:47:17 pm
If they do remake G/S/C(well, maybe not C cause it's a remake, but it'd be nice) I hope they include Kanto, but have an exceptionnaly well done Johto. Having a battle frontier would be nice, but they could include that in the Sevii islands, so as to not disturb Johto, but add on to FR/LG. And Mt Silver returning would be a must.
I think my team in a Johto version would be: (brackets contain pkmn that were added after G/S/C were released, but were evolutions of GSC pkmn)
Feraligatr
Murkrow(Honchcrow)
Ursaring
Tyranitar
Magmar(Magmortar)
Electabuzz(Electivire)

...turned out a lot like my current team, sadly... Maybe I'm just not original, or I've forgotten about a lot of the GSC pkmn...

To avoid repetition of types, you can replace Murkrow with Misdreavus, and evolve it into a Mismagius (65/65/65/105/105/105 I think) (BTW, the stats are in HP/Atck/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe order). And replace Ursaring with Furret since Furret has better Speed XD </JK> Furret's a fairly weak Pokemon.

Anyways, to replace Ursaring is Gligar, which can evolve into Gliscor (75/95/125/45/75/95). Better typing despite 4x weakness to Ice, and if it has Sand Veil, you can use Tyranitar's Sand Stream ability to activate Sand Veil. It also acts as a Defensive Wall.

You might consider trading Magmortar for Scizor (70/130/100/55/80/65), since you really can't find many opportunities to use Fire attacks.

These are just my recommendations to remove your team from common weaknesses, particularly Ground. 


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 04, 2009, 08:49:31 pm
I agree,B~T. However,although i appreciate Tyranitar,with a pathetic Base Speed of 61,a Fighting type without even great speed,even a tough Fighting type move could expose the 4x weakness to the fighting type. Also,despite the high power,Rock and Dark types are not all that effective(although i do give Rhyperior and Drapion props),even in wake of the high-power stab you get from moves like Stone Edge and Crunch,and high Attack Stats. Tyranitar is no doubt powerful,with total Base Stats of 600,but with such a low Base Speed,you could easily be exposed.

On the other hand,if you encourage it's defense a bit,maybe with some EVs or a helpful nature,you could take advantage of the situation and use it effectivly,with stats among only the pseudo-legendary and Legendary.

So,in conclusion,a great Pokemon,but only on a high level if you train it correctly.

I decided to can Slaking,also eliminating a need for Alakazam. I decided on the widely-used Gyarados,problem is,I CANNOT FIND AN ADAMANT GYARADOS.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: lionytai on May 05, 2009, 06:47:46 am
Quote
I mention a sliver of a GSDS debate, I leave for a bit, and I come back to this. >__> 

I would like to note that aside from the internal "From Johto" data, everything noted upon is pure speculation.  It could lend itself as a form of advertising and such, but by no means does it mean anything.  For example, people have stated that the fact that Reggie's Badges have been shown on screen, particularly his Johto Badges, means there will be a Johto remake.  That's just as likely to say about a Hoenn remake.  It's all speculation, in my opinion. 

Of course, the difference this time around is that there's a lot more speculative evidence than there has been before.  One can not deny, not even myself, that there is far more speculative evidence than before.  The stars certainly do seem to align for this event.  And most of the general community is reacting differently this time around.  The majority concensus is believing this time around that it actually will be a GSDS remake. 

I honestly wouldn't care about what features are added or not.  What I care about most are two things.  The first is that they make Johto live up to its name.  If it doesn't give Johto the respect it deserves, I don't want it.  Many of the younger members might not know what Johto was all about.  I'll be frank.  My first Pokemon game ever was Crystal version.  I loved it.  G/S/C was the best set of games Game Freak has done for Pokemon, in my opinion.  D/P/P make a close second, but Johto remains my all-time favorite.  And the thing is, most fans agree the same way with me.  They consider Johto to be the best of all games and regions, and they want there to either be spectacular remakes that give Johto justice, or no remakes at all. 

The second thing I want is that they put more attention and focus on Johto.  In G/S/C, they put more focus on Kanto than they did on Johto.  It was hard to find a lot of flaws in G/S/C, and most of the fanbase agrees that the biggest flaw was that there wasn't enough focus on Johto.  If they did they games the justice they deserve, and put more focus on Johto, I'll be content.
i only have a silver gameboy


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 05, 2009, 07:14:29 am
I decided to can Slaking,also eliminating a need for Alakazam. I decided on the widely-used Gyarados,problem is,I CANNOT FIND AN ADAMANT GYARADOS.
Just breed a Magikarp/Gyarados with an Adamant Ditto holding an everstone, or just breed it with any ditto, and hope you get lucky. All natures you're looking for takes time unless you use the natured ditto everstone thing ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: lionytai on May 05, 2009, 08:52:26 am
I gto my silver in 2001..acutally my dad go ti for me. i was like , 4 or 5?? I didn't even know ho w to save gme until i was 7! i started playing at 6 i think


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 05, 2009, 10:13:38 am
Wow,if he believes it,i believe it.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on May 05, 2009, 02:25:47 pm
I think him beliving in it almost confirims it, j/k lol. =P

But yeah, I would definately get the new version, should it come out. Nintendo/GF would have to be insane to not follow through on this.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on May 05, 2009, 02:29:44 pm
Hm...maybe you should go to Bulbapedia and see the Johto Dex.
lol. I should, or go to my emerald version where I completed the dex(... with an AR...)

If they do remake G/S/C(well, maybe not C cause it's a remake, but it'd be nice) I hope they include Kanto, but have an exceptionnaly well done Johto. Having a battle frontier would be nice, but they could include that in the Sevii islands, so as to not disturb Johto, but add on to FR/LG. And Mt Silver returning would be a must.
I think my team in a Johto version would be: (brackets contain pkmn that were added after G/S/C were released, but were evolutions of GSC pkmn)
Feraligatr
Murkrow(Honchcrow)
Ursaring
Tyranitar
Magmar(Magmortar)
Electabuzz(Electivire)

...turned out a lot like my current team, sadly... Maybe I'm just not original, or I've forgotten about a lot of the GSC pkmn...

To avoid repetition of types, you can replace Murkrow with Misdreavus, and evolve it into a Mismagius (65/65/65/105/105/105 I think) (BTW, the stats are in HP/Atck/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe order). And replace Ursaring with Furret since Furret has better Speed XD </JK> Furret's a fairly weak Pokemon.

Anyways, to replace Ursaring is Gligar, which can evolve into Gliscor (75/95/125/45/75/95). Better typing despite 4x weakness to Ice, and if it has Sand Veil, you can use Tyranitar's Sand Stream ability to activate Sand Veil. It also acts as a Defensive Wall.

You might consider trading Magmortar for Scizor (70/130/100/55/80/65), since you really can't find many opportunities to use Fire attacks.

These are just my recommendations to remove your team from common weaknesses, particularly Ground. 
...I forgot about Scisor, even though I just EV trained a scisor in Plat which is now lv 93...
Okay, so: Feraligatr, Gliscor, Tyranitar, Scizor, Electivire and Mismagius/Ursaring/Skarmory <-(forgot about that one... resistant to 2 types, and has steel type. Great wall.)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 06, 2009, 07:28:11 am
Johto Dex=Pokemon numbered 1-251. ;) They never had regional Pokedexes back then.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: lionytai on May 06, 2009, 07:43:03 am
Johto Dex=Pokemon numbered 1-251. ;) They never had regional Pokedexes back then.
if youu mean G/S/C, you're right. but you can see which Pokemon appears at where.

I wonder how I could get Number 251.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 06, 2009, 07:45:44 am
You can only get number 251, Celebi, by hacking or going to the over by many years event in the states/wherever they do events. ;) Though, there's speculation that if there are GS Remakes, they'll release Celebi somehow. Which I hope they do, because it'll be one of the only ones I'll be missing in my Living Dex(Which, might I add, is up to 386 or so Pokemon owned =)).


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: lionytai on May 06, 2009, 07:52:39 am
Ah never mind, i don't play the gameboy a lot now. I wouldn't play unless my brother played XD


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on May 06, 2009, 10:27:47 am
You can only get number 251, Celebi, by hacking or going to the over by many years event in the states/wherever they do events. ;) Though, there's speculation that if there are GS Remakes, they'll release Celebi somehow. Which I hope they do, because it'll be one of the only ones I'll be missing in my Living Dex(Which, might I add, is up to 386 or so Pokemon owned =)).
I'm lucky-I went to the tenth anniversary convention and got Celebi. but it knows a HM move, so I need to know where the Fire Red/Leaf Green Move Deleter is before I can import it.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 06, 2009, 11:22:34 am
Yeah....it is like impossible to get!

I have never been to an event for a special Pokemon-but i will get Arceus if it kills me. And ifwhen they do the GSDS thing,i am going to try and get Celebi,event or no event.

I think in G/S/C you have to get th GS Ball and take it to that forest...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 06, 2009, 12:09:34 pm
You can only get number 251, Celebi, by hacking or going to the over by many years event in the states/wherever they do events. ;) Though, there's speculation that if there are GS Remakes, they'll release Celebi somehow. Which I hope they do, because it'll be one of the only ones I'll be missing in my Living Dex(Which, might I add, is up to 386 or so Pokemon owned =)).
I'm lucky-I went to the tenth anniversary convention and got Celebi. but it knows a HM move, so I need to know where the Fire Red/Leaf Green Move Deleter is before I can import it.
Fuchsia City ;)

I have never been to an event for a special Pokemon-but i will get Arceus if it kills me.
Same, except, I'll just wait for the wi-fi event/event item if it happens. ;)
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And ifwhen they do the GSDS thing,i am going to try and get Celebi,event or no event.
Same, and hopefully it happens over Wi-Fi.

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I think in G/S/C you have to get th GS Ball and take it to that forest...
Only Crystal, item didn't exist in G/S I don't think.

/EDIT: ... Hmm. So, the Platinum series of Special recently started it seems, and it seems to be interesting from the summaries... Also, even more interesting, it apparently mentions that there's a Battle Tower in Hoenn and Johto, but since it could just be referencing past events, since it's been to Johto before in the G/S/C arc... That's probably all it is.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Tom on May 06, 2009, 03:18:06 pm
*Begins to make himself feel at home here* =D

So ya'll have seen the possible G/S Remake info?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 06, 2009, 03:20:11 pm
Yep. We're all anticipating it very much...

Special's new part is pretty interesting...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on May 06, 2009, 03:27:23 pm
I'm lucky-I went to the tenth anniversary convention and got Celebi. but it knows a HM move, so I need to know where the Fire Red/Leaf Green Move Deleter is before I can import it.
Fuchsia City ;)

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I think in G/S/C you have to get th GS Ball and take it to that forest...
Only Crystal, item didn't exist in G/S I don't think.

1: thanks.
2: And only in Japan...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Tom on May 06, 2009, 03:28:06 pm
Yep. We're all anticipating it very much...

Special's new part is pretty interesting...
The Platinum one? I had read the first chapter on Serebii earlier.

@herochild: Without hacking that is.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 06, 2009, 03:29:53 pm
I'm lucky-I went to the tenth anniversary convention and got Celebi. but it knows a HM move, so I need to know where the Fire Red/Leaf Green Move Deleter is before I can import it.
Fuchsia City ;)

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I think in G/S/C you have to get th GS Ball and take it to that forest...
Only Crystal, item didn't exist in G/S I don't think.

1: thanks.
2: And only in Japan...
Actually, you can hack it in apparently in Crystal, but you could only get it legitly in Japan.

Yep. We're all anticipating it very much...

Special's new part is pretty interesting...
The Platinum one? I had read the first chapter on Serebii earlier.
Yeah, Plat. Interesting, but I wonder what happened to Dia and Pearl? =/


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on May 06, 2009, 03:53:47 pm
well, I imported and recaptured Celebi. anyone want to trade a LEGIT Jerachi (probably misspelled) for a LEGIT, 10th anniversary  Celebi? I will not accept a Jerachi that was hacked in ANY way, only the Colosseum Bonus Disk version.
this is because (and I speak from experience) hacked Jerachis cause strange glitches.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 06, 2009, 04:00:41 pm
While I'd love that Celebi, I'm looking for a Jirachi myself(Albeit, it's not on my absolutely need list right at this moment...)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on May 06, 2009, 04:02:01 pm
right now, I'm looking for a legit Jirachi and a legit Shaymin.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: 0PureChaos0 on May 06, 2009, 04:06:44 pm
right now, I'm looking for a legit Jirachi and a legit Shaymin.

From Toys R Us?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on May 06, 2009, 04:07:06 pm
the Shaymin? yes.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: 0PureChaos0 on May 06, 2009, 04:26:08 pm
Ok. Just wondering because I'm looking for future events, even though I have one In my Diamond, and are too lazy to rent a DS from gamestop. :P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Tom on May 06, 2009, 07:18:02 pm
I may or may not have a spare Jirachi. I'll have to get back to you on that.

And I have a spare Shaymin.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on May 06, 2009, 09:09:01 pm
a spare Shaymin? is it Legit? what do you want for it? I have almost every legendary, and with the exception of my: Mew, Lugia, and Ho-oh, they are all Legit,


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Tom on May 07, 2009, 04:31:00 am
a spare Shaymin? is it Legit? what do you want for it? I have almost every legendary, and with the exception of my: Mew, Lugia, and Ho-oh, they are all Legit,
It's legit.

Got any shinies?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on May 07, 2009, 10:30:50 am
nope, no shinies. sorry.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 07, 2009, 11:04:24 am
Only shinie i eva met was a Machoke. Ran out of Poke Balls...... :'(


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 07, 2009, 11:15:49 am
I've got a Shiny Red Gyarados from Emerald stuck on Diamond, if that counts. =P(And ironically, if GSDS happens, I'll have another. What luck =P) But, I don't really wanna let that one go...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Tom on May 07, 2009, 12:24:49 pm
I've got a Shiny Red Gyarados from Emerald stuck on Diamond, if that counts. =P(And ironically, if GSDS happens, I'll have another. What luck =P) But, I don't really wanna let that one go...
Understandable. That first shiny in any game is something special.

A reason as to why I feel guilty for trading away my Weepinbell I caught in Diamond. Only shiny.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on May 07, 2009, 02:13:39 pm
The only shiny I ever saw(other than crystal's red gyarados) was on my friend's FR version... and it was a pidgey...

I've slowed down a lot in playing Platinum. Electivire now has 190 atk EVs, and a few more def EVs I need to remove... once Electivire has 214 atk EVs I'll attach a Power Anklet and battle 38 shinx or snover...

also, I'm training a Prinplup(currently lv 25, Timid Nature). I'm gonna try and make an Empoleon that might be fast, and put 148 EVs on both special stats, 252 on Speed and then the remainder on defence...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 07, 2009, 02:28:33 pm
Yeah...I slowed down too,got kinda bored and busy. GSDS has had my attention as well.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on May 07, 2009, 02:32:03 pm
I have a Shiny Machoke. I was really disappointed when it was a Calm nature.
In Emerald, I have a Shiny Sandshrew. It is a Rash one.

In my previous Diamond version, I have two shinies. One is a Weepinbell (Rash), while the other is a Graveler (Bold). I'm not too sure if I have a third though.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Tom on May 07, 2009, 06:32:49 pm
Ah.

Lately I've only been planting berries and trading on the GTS for IDs, hoping I'll get lucky and win the ID Lotto again.

@Renegade: You know how to EV train then?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 07, 2009, 06:40:27 pm
1. I should probably start checking that again...

2. There was a tutorial back in the topic, I think I put the links in the first post...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on May 07, 2009, 07:01:36 pm
Ah.

Lately I've only been planting berries and trading on the GTS for IDs, hoping I'll get lucky and win the ID Lotto again.

@Renegade: You know how to EV train then?
B~T taught me, and I also checked out GameFaqs for more help. And so far it's done wonders for me... Electivire now has 214 atk EVs, which means I can begin to train him in both atk and speed.
I need to plant more berries for removing EVs... Electivire may still have EVs on defence, which means that I can't complete his training yet >< (i did not realise how many defence EVs were on him...)
In good news, Leafeon has the same amount of defence stats naturally as Scisor has atk right? I haven't EV trained Leafeon, but it has great defences...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on May 07, 2009, 08:02:38 pm
Unfortunately, many competitive Leafeon have the Physical Sweeper EV spread.

Even though Leafeon has good defenses, its typing hinders its walling capabilities; Grass has 5 weaknesses to other types.

It can also be a Baton Passer with:
Jolly -- Leftovers 
132 HP/160 Atck/216 Speed
 - Leaf Blade
 - Swords Dance
 - Baton Pass
 - Roar

Leaf Blade is the one and only STAB move here, and can be boosted with Swords Dance. You can also Baton Pass Swords Dance to a Physical Sweeper. Roar can keep Phazers out of bay which will cancel out your Swords Dance.

Credit to Smogon for moveset, since I really don't know Leafeon that well.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 08, 2009, 06:45:28 am
=D WOOOOOOOOT!!! =D

I knew it, but the names are... Different. Ah well. I guess it could make sense...(After all, Ho-Oh's tower was the one that stayed up and it revived the 3 legendary beasts, and Lugia's tower burned down, which made the 3 beasts die in the first place... Though, that's just speculation on my part.) But this is awesome news =D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on May 08, 2009, 09:20:29 am
yay! G/S/C was even better than Plat, in my opinion.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 08, 2009, 10:00:36 am
Yes! And now,i must prepare to FINALLY HAVE WI-FI COMPATIBILTY!!! Still,i estimate at best we will be getting these next February.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 08, 2009, 10:15:59 am
At best Feb of next year, at worst, April or May. *Sighs* Right about now would be a good time for a Time Travel Machine to be released... =P

/EDIT: Hey, I just realized something. Look at Notched Ear Pichu and then look at the Manga Green, and compare the ear and Green's hair at the bottom... 0_o Interesting huh?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 08, 2009, 10:27:12 am
I just realized a little detail,this means that there are games from all 4 reigons where you can choose a boy OR girl character. Man,now i want to play my Silver Version...

So,whcih are you guys goin' for,HeartGold or SoulSilver? I am undecided....Probably Gonna give into the urge for Ho-oh,after all,i will be able to trade on the GTS. I know i sound like i know this,but considering the Dsi will hav ebeen out for nearly a year,you think they will have implemented a WPA security setting for the Pokemon wi-fi. Whcih means i can use Mystery Gift too......*girl-like scream*.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 08, 2009, 10:35:01 am
Meh, I may go for SoulSilver... Since, because it's part of the awesomeness of the originals, I doubt they'd take out Lugia from HeartGold, and vice versa for Ho-Oh.

And, with this, Kanto's been in every single Generation so far. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 08, 2009, 10:37:45 am
I am wondering what my best flying type choice would be....and how a about Fire? I guess i should wait until they release more info on it.

EDIT:Here's more on the release time:
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HeartGold and SoulSilver will be released in Japan this fall, possibly on or near Nov. 21, the 10th anniversary of the original release of their namesakes. International releases will likely come in mid-2010.

 >:(



Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 08, 2009, 11:09:19 am
September's kinda a little more likely with the starter figures, but who knows... We'll find out more info hopefully within the next few weeks.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on May 08, 2009, 11:22:23 am
EPIC W00TNESS!!! =D

I may go for the Gold, because I've got the Heart to do it. Or I might fall to Silver for a lack of Soul. I don't know yet. XD

And I can wait for 2010. It'll take that long for me to get around to beating Plat, anyway. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 08, 2009, 11:25:23 am
It'll take you a year to finish Plat? =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 08, 2009, 11:37:28 am
No,it'll take him a year to figure out how to start the game up=jk ;D

Anyone have suggestions for a Heracross user? Heracrosss CANNOT be passed up on,with the moveset and Attack that he has,he has awful Sp.Attack,but i don't mind cuz he doesn't level up to learn any special moves.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on May 08, 2009, 12:15:06 pm
It'll take me a year to get through all the EV training for my team. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 08, 2009, 12:18:41 pm
Really? So that's how long it takes......


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 08, 2009, 12:27:56 pm
Nah, I could probably get it done by the end of the month if I actually push to complete it... First things first is getting the Pokemon though, and the Power items... Pokerus is easy with half my PC infected with it. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on May 08, 2009, 12:43:16 pm
That's cause I'm lazy, mata. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on May 08, 2009, 12:47:34 pm
anyone willing to trade a movie Shaymin for a Celebi or Darkrai?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 08, 2009, 12:55:25 pm
I would if i had one.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Tom on May 08, 2009, 01:35:51 pm
anyone willing to trade a movie Shaymin for a Celebi or Darkrai?
Movie Shaymin? Not a TRU Shaymin? O:


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on May 08, 2009, 02:21:51 pm
any Shaymin. sorry for the mistype.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on May 08, 2009, 02:44:11 pm
Soul Silver sounds cooler IMO... I'll probably go for that one, since we won't see a crystal remake(too bad...). BTW, how did one get Ho-oh in crystal version?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 08, 2009, 02:47:38 pm
You had to catch the legendary beasts and then get the Rainbow Wing.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 08, 2009, 02:56:43 pm
Sooo....I have some ideas for our tournaments-

We have four tournaments,one on the first of each season. We altrnate between Johto and Sinnoh for each one. For example,the Summer 2010 Johto Tournament. Catch my drift?

And i AM willing to sit out te Sinnoh Tournaments.

Next,i think he should organize the prizes. Probably a rare Pokemon,like Feebas.

And finally,we should put the entry limit at eight,a number to get all of us in and work out evenly(meaning 10 would leave use with extras in round 2,6 would leave us with extras in round 2,etc).

Like my ideas?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 08, 2009, 03:01:09 pm
1. Yeah, though if HG/SS can connect to D/P/Pt like it should, there could be both...

2. Yeah, I think we've all decided on him doing the prizes. =P

3. We could do like the Pokedex holders if we go with 10... But eight would be good, unless we get a lot of extras, which we could boost it to 16 then(Hey, both are numbers in G/S/C for the badges =P)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on May 08, 2009, 03:03:50 pm
You had to catch the legendary beasts and then get the Rainbow Wing.
... I never could catch Entei>>

@mata: If there are odd numbers we can always make a round robin to start off, and the lowest scoring would leave(for example, we start with 10 people, two groups. After the round robin, we're left with four people from each group-> eight total).

Prizes that would be cool: any event pkmn, feebas/milotic, Macho Brace, a Power item, rare berry, perfect EV trained pkmn(I dunno which one, maybe a starter...)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on May 08, 2009, 03:29:37 pm
Perhaps even a starter of the winner's choice. For example, get a Charmander if that's the one you're missing.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on May 08, 2009, 05:23:28 pm
well, if anyone has a Legit Shaymin that they're willing to trade, PM me.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 08, 2009, 07:08:55 pm
Trouble? I can breed them easily. =P If only we had a shiny Milotic like the official contest, but since the chances of that are slimmer than finding Feebas in the wild in D/P/Pt... =P(I kinda actually wish that shiny Gyarados I caught while fishing for Feebas was a Shiny Feebas =P)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 08, 2009, 07:36:40 pm
Meh, I know, but I don't think it'll be that much worse, plus it gives me time to pick out a version I like by looking at the version exclusives, though I'm almost positive I'm getting SoulSilver ;)

Red Gyarados wi- ... Wait. I'm gonna be getting a free static Red Gyarados in this... D= That makes my other Gyarados... non-special. xD

/EDIT: Hey, I just realized... We only got the Logo with this... You wouldn't think they'd just have the logo to announce this on Sunday, would you? ... Do you think they may have the cover art there?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on May 08, 2009, 08:09:09 pm
Well, it's possible...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 08, 2009, 08:50:03 pm
You know,i just realized that there is a decent chance they'll introduce new Pokemon. If they don't,it'll be the only gen without ANY new pokemon. And i don't think Ninteendo would upset fans like that. So that might be the some of the "new content". If I'm right,i would guess it will be more evolutions of Pokemon like Heracross.

Speaking of the "brand new content",here's some stuff Johto never got one of its own of that could be included:
  • a Safari Zone
  • Cycling and Victory Roads
  • It's own villainous team

@Blade-I suggested 8 because if you look at the number of people who post in this topic-
Dudebot(1)
B~T(2)
RP(3)
Herochild(4)
You(5)
Myself(6)

If Tom wanted to join,as he would be more familiar here by the first Tournament,that would give us 7.



Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on May 08, 2009, 08:52:05 pm
Fire Red and Leaf Green had no new Pokemon...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 08, 2009, 08:54:21 pm
I said GENERATION. That Gen had R/S/E.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on May 08, 2009, 08:55:56 pm
but this generation has D/P/P.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 08, 2009, 08:57:39 pm
HG/SS will be Gen 5.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on May 08, 2009, 09:01:25 pm
they always introduce about 100 new Pokemon in new generations...  say, perhaps this is a SEQUEL to G/S/C, and not a remake? because new pokemon are NEVER in a remake. new formes, yes, but new Pokemon, no.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 09, 2009, 08:39:43 am
This will be a gen 4 game MN >_> They're just going about things differently. If you noticed, there's a pattern for every gen. Every gen is released on a new handheld by Nintendo.

R/G/B/Y: Game Boy(Yellow's the only exception, but it's in a class of it's own anyway >_>)
G/S/C: Game Boy Colour
Ru/Sa/E/Fr/Lg: Game Boy Advance
D/P/Pt/Hg/Ss: Nintendo DS.

This is a Gen 4 game, though I wouldn't doubt maybe hints to new Pokemon in after story stuff possibly... I dunno. And if this is not a remake, there'll be a lot of angry people, so I doubt Nintendo would do that and have them boycott Hg/Ss. ;)

Oh, and some of those people you mentioned don't have Wi-Fi, like RP...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 09, 2009, 08:41:30 am
I have every last detail of my team composed......but i shall tell you all nothing.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 09, 2009, 08:48:09 am
Also, I've been reading the talk pages of the remakes, and one comment jumped out, saying that generations start with a new region... While this is revisiting Johto.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on May 09, 2009, 08:59:38 am
... yeah, I has no wi-fi... but hopefully my parents get a new comp and get wireless internet to use both of them...

and yeah, this is a remake, so I doubt there'll be new pkmn. However, it would be nice. An evolution to heracross is probably never to come, seeing as it's a strong pokemon now, and adding to that would be incredible...

Pokemon kinda made a mistake in releasing Arceus I think. It's the GOD of pokemon-> how much more can you add on to that?

And if I do get wi-fi, I'll have to stop giving team updates. Most of the pkmn I'll use will be common enough, but there may be added twists thrown in... Is the competition gonna be in OU tier(I think that's most likely, since that's what most people are training)?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 09, 2009, 09:04:24 am
... A Pokemon version of Unicron? =P That'd be an epic Pokemon... =P

Plus, they don't have to add as powerful Pokemon in the next games really...

Yeah, I'd say OU.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: 0PureChaos0 on May 09, 2009, 09:07:45 am
Why don't you get a Wi-Fi USB Connector?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on May 09, 2009, 09:17:24 am
@Blade: DPP kinda got a wave of great pkmn I think... Yes, pkmn could release another region, but having the GOD of pkmn adds a nice ending to the series(although, like Bionicle, they should keep going as long as they make profits... They could just redo all of the games on newer systems as newer systems come out, or maybe pkmn Ranger or EoT/D will be the next wave of pkmngames...).

@0PC0: cause I've heard they don't work well... and I don't wanna pay for one when my parents are actually discussing getting a new comp. I just don't know when they will, although they say within the year...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 09, 2009, 09:24:43 am
But there's been confirmation there is going to be a fifth gen eventually, and there are Pokemon who need evos, like Farfetched... =/


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on May 09, 2009, 09:32:24 am
Pkmn who need to be evolved:

Farfetched, Lapras, Pinsir, Shuckle, Skarmory, Heracross, Quilfish, Pachirisu, Spiritomb, Torcoal. Maybe others...

Ditto, Unknown and Smeargle should not evolve... Lapras would be cool to have evolve, but it's pretty strong already, so maybe an egg child(same goes for Heracross and Skarmory).


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 09, 2009, 10:35:37 am
Spiritomb i doubt as it has no weaknesses,and is already tough to get.

Farfetch'd,Lapras,Pinsir,Heracross,Quilfish,i can see happening.

Pachirisu is too weak. It is more of a contest Pokemon,not a serious contender. They would have to beef it up WAY to much for it to evolve.

Shuckle,i don't think so. Because what difference would there be? It has maxed out Defenses,and literally nothing in all other stats. All they could do is raise the Defense even higher,or do what Power Trick does and make an All-Offensive pokemon. But with no defenses or speed,it would be totally useless.

Skarmory......why? I just don't really think it needs to evolve.

Torkoal....it's up there. It could be a big,high Sp.Attack Pokemon. Although it does have decent stats already.

Also,are we putting level limits on these potenial tournaments? I mean,as RP and i hae much more time,our pokemon  would be in the 80s before you guys even got all eight Badges.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on May 09, 2009, 11:39:53 am
... A Pokemon version of Unicron? =P That'd be an epic Pokemon... =P
That would be EPIC. =O

Why don't you get a Wi-Fi USB Connector?
They have those? I'll have to look into it...

I miss the old games' battle music a bit...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akseS3O9KdQ&feature=related
Ah, that's better. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 09, 2009, 11:56:11 am
=O That's from Mario Paint, isn't it? Haven't seen something from that for a while...

Mata Nui: *Cough* We don't need to when Wi-Fi can auto-bump everyone to Level 50 or 100 ;) Plus, I'm just about nearing Level 80 with a few of my Pokemon, but the main prob is I don't use the E4, since I don't have Pokemon that can utterly crush them yet.(Almost have a level 100 Ditto though =P)

Reason is I'm focusing on my 'Dex right now.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 09, 2009, 12:04:56 pm
Really? I didn't knw that. Never been on the wi-fi before,obviously.

EDIT:Alright,assuming i can get the held items i need,my Johto team is complete. I'd rather not tell you anything,but i will give you a few coded details:

Heracross-43 w177 4av3 a musc73 band.

Miltank-HM slave. No need to code that.

Houndoom:1hund3r F@n6

Crobat:ann0y31n6,ha23

electivire:br16h1 P0wd3r.

Feraligatr:Sc093 73ns.

I do realize i just revealed my whole team,i had already posted it anyway.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on May 09, 2009, 02:37:23 pm
Spiritomb i doubt as it has no weaknesses,and is already tough to get.

Farfetch'd,Lapras,Pinsir,Heracross,Quilfish,i can see happening.

Pachirisu is too weak. It is more of a contest Pokemon,not a serious contender. They would have to beef it up WAY to much for it to evolve.

Shuckle,i don't think so. Because what difference would there be? It has maxed out Defenses,and literally nothing in all other stats. All they could do is raise the Defense even higher,or do what Power Trick does and make an All-Offensive pokemon. But with no defenses or speed,it would be totally useless.

Skarmory......why? I just don't really think it needs to evolve.

Torkoal....it's up there. It could be a big,high Sp.Attack Pokemon. Although it does have decent stats already.

Also,are we putting level limits on these potenial tournaments? I mean,as RP and i hae much more time,our pokemon  would be in the 80s before you guys even got all eight Badges.
4 of my pkmn are lv 94+... I have a lv 79 Weavile and a lv 79 Empoleon. lv 73 Rapidash and Sharpedo. I'm already way ahead... EXP share does not give EVs right? Plus I have my Pearl which has a few lv 90+ pkmn, and some other high levels..


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 09, 2009, 02:40:06 pm
It does, but you can't get the extra from a power item.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on May 09, 2009, 03:05:14 pm
Does each pkmn get the EVs(like, say I'm battling a Shinx, which gives 1 atk EV. one pkmn has EXP share, while the other one is battling.)?



Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 09, 2009, 03:15:28 pm
It gives each what they would obtain if they were actually battling, though I don't know if Pokerus is applied.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 09, 2009, 04:46:36 pm
I wonder how soon the Pokemon Sunday guys will release the details about HG/SS?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on May 09, 2009, 04:47:41 pm
I'd say in about a day or so. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 09, 2009, 04:49:09 pm
I think it was scheduled today....but it'll take a while for them to translate.

Somethings odd....we haven't seen him here all day!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 09, 2009, 04:49:34 pm
Well, by the end of the show... And for a rough time, courtesy of Serebii...

Quote
The show starts at 23:30 BST, equating to 18:30 EDT

So, should be tonight maybe?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on May 09, 2009, 04:50:55 pm
I'd say in about a day or so. =P

Unlike the LMB itself, along with the mods...  =P

I would like to see screenshots of the game, and if they allow Gen crossovers.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 09, 2009, 04:51:59 pm
I think they may have the cover art possibly...

Also, he's right here =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 09, 2009, 04:52:37 pm
@B~T:Oh yeah,definitely.

He hasn't even been online....probably busy.

So,which starter you guys gonna go with?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 09, 2009, 04:54:48 pm
Chikorita, I wonder why...

Anyway, I wonder if Leaf/Blue's gonna be in?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 09, 2009, 04:56:30 pm
Hmmm.......

What i really want to know is what the "special,never-before-seen content" is. It was mentioned on BP(Bulbapedia)...

@Blade,oh,you're right,he just got on.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 09, 2009, 04:58:13 pm
I don't know... I dunno if it was even really confirmed or not... *Shrugs*


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 09, 2009, 04:59:55 pm
So many questions....and we have to wait a year for the full answer.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on May 09, 2009, 05:08:42 pm
I'm going with Cyndaquil or Totodile. Both are my favorite starters in Johto, so...  yeah.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 09, 2009, 05:10:13 pm
I'm going with a Totodile. My Feraligatr will be awesome.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 09, 2009, 05:16:14 pm
Okay then...

To me, BT's Silver, and you're an alternate Rival MN in terms of starters.(Silver being the Rival)

To you, MN, I'm Silver, and BT's the alt rival.

To BT, you're Silver, and I'm the alt rival.

All in terms of starters picked of course, and if BT picks Cyndaquil =)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 09, 2009, 05:19:02 pm
RIVAL? I will pwn you,man. P-W-N.=jk

Yes,in a sense we ARE all rivals.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on May 09, 2009, 05:31:15 pm
The show starts at 23:30 BST, equating to 18:30 EDT
Care to translate that to EST? =P

So many questions....and we have to wait a year for the full answer.
Half a year, since they'll translate Japanese stuff for us non-Japanese people. Provided it's still being launced in Fall 09. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 09, 2009, 05:32:21 pm
Well,i trust Nintendo.

Anyone else gonna catch a Heracross.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on May 09, 2009, 05:37:30 pm
Wait... EDT is EST... Sorta...

Meaning the show JUST started. It is currently 7:37 on Sunday in Tokyo right now...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 09, 2009, 05:38:57 pm
*checks Bulbapedia*

Nothing.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 09, 2009, 05:39:50 pm
*Shrugs* I'm as stumped as you. =P I don't even know what the D in EDT means... *Scratches head*

... Wait, EDT is EST? =O

7:30... What? AM? If so, then it's on.

/EDIT: Oh, EST is EDT! Eastern Standard Time and Eastern Daylight Time. =)

//EDIT: Oh yes, I just realized, there was a running storyline thing in RGB and GSC... Both had Pokemon stolen(Okay, so the RGB thing was only in Special, but still... >_>)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on May 09, 2009, 06:13:05 pm
If it's on now, they're probably watching and recording the info now, then they'll translate it later. ;)

/EDIT: Oh, EST is EST! Eastern Standard Time and Eastern Daylight Time. =)
Of course EST is EST. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 09, 2009, 06:35:16 pm
1. Apparently there may be other info... I dunno...

2. =P You know what I meant =P

/EDIT: Prepare to potentially get excited...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on May 09, 2009, 06:52:28 pm
NEWS!

Well, not much was revealed. HOWEVER. There is a pic of Gold (Who looks cool, IMO), being followed by a Chikorita following him around New Bark Town. =O

http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 09, 2009, 06:55:07 pm
That pic owns. Heck, Gold owns. And just FTR, that's so gonna be parodied if I can in the real game by me, since that'll be my exact starter. =P And Silver looks awesome too...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on May 09, 2009, 06:57:09 pm
I almost thought that the girl is Silver...

When Silver is actually BEHIND the mailbox...

>.>


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 09, 2009, 07:00:09 pm
Of course he is, he's looking through the window like in the originals ;)

And... A second floor for Elm's lab? Didn't something else have that involved... Special? I forget, but I think I remember Special saying something about how that was how Silver stole his Totodile(Gold took Cyndaquil, Silver Totodile, and Crystal ran into Chikorita), via an upper floor or something... I forget. =/

/EDIT: Also, there's three more pics in a gallery on Serebii =)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on May 09, 2009, 07:24:03 pm
That's awesomesauce right there. 8)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 09, 2009, 07:29:23 pm
I think there was more in that gameplay vid than what in in that gallery and such though... Because in one comment of the Serebii forums, it says about how you can see Gold's house or something, and says something about those things that look like lightpoles being windmills or something...

But, we should probably find more out in 5-6 days. Since CoroCoro releases on the 15th.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 09, 2009, 07:37:37 pm
Here's some more:

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Update: Pokémon Sunday has aired, revealing multiple aspects. First, there are new Sugimori artwork for the three starters. In addition, a short video of "gameplay" was shown (screenshot at left} with overworld sprites of Gold and Silver, with the selected starter, Chikorita, walking behind Gold.

Nintendo has confirmed a 2009 release for Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver, DS remakes of the principal Generation II Pokémon games, Gold and Silver, which were originally released for the Game Boy Color in 1999 in Japan. Speculated by fans to be in development since the release of Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen, the remakes will take gamers back to the Johto region, found west of Kanto — this time as Generation IV games.

The games will most likely be able to link to Diamond, Pearl and Platinum as shown by game data.

HeartGold and SoulSilver will be released in Japan this fall, possibly on or near Nov. 21, the 10th anniversary of the original release of their namesakes. International releases will likely come in mid-2010

Here's the link to the story,and to the pic of the game: http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:HGSS_NewBark_Serebii.JPG


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 09, 2009, 07:40:10 pm
The last 3 paragraphs are the original article though ;) But, the three updated pics are pretty cool. New Bark seems to have changed a lot though... Other than the graphics as well. Remember that sign Silver used to hide behind to look into Elm's lab's window? It's now the mailbox.

Here's a pic you can compare with. (http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/f/ff/NBT.png)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: 0PureChaos0 on May 09, 2009, 07:55:33 pm
OK, now I know that this game is going to be an EPIC WIN.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on May 09, 2009, 08:10:27 pm
I'm gone for almost a whole and all this gets revealed. I need to stop going out!
I wonder what will be on the second floor of Elms lab? and since daylight savings time is handled by the DS, I guess all Mom will be good for is banking.
one more thing: what will they do instead of Stickers? I mean, getting all the Unown is going to be even harder, now that there are two more. Seals, perhaps?
so excited...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on May 09, 2009, 08:12:24 pm
Speaking of stickers, I wonder if they hold Pokemon Contests there...   ::)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Tom on May 09, 2009, 09:43:45 pm
Speaking of stickers, I wonder if they hold Pokemon Contests there...   ::)
Hopefully. I just can't wait to see what goes where, and what else we can do in these new versions.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: 0PureChaos0 on May 10, 2009, 07:20:50 am
I will pre-order this game. And yea, contests would be cool there.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 10, 2009, 08:39:06 am
I HATE Contests. I mean,unless they add the battling section of it like the anime,i will be willing to sacrifice that star on my Trainer Card.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on May 10, 2009, 10:00:11 am
Speaking of stickers, I wonder if they hold Pokemon Contests there...   ::)
didn't the end of the Hoenn part of the Anime say that there are Johto contests?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 10, 2009, 10:27:28 am
Yeah,i think so....and May,Drew and Harley went to Johto.

I guess,although we know about the games,there isn't really anything to say about them,since they are unreleased. Not even close to.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on May 10, 2009, 10:28:48 am
http://www.brawlinthefamily.com/comic159.html
read this.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 10, 2009, 10:33:07 am
I read that a while back...sadly,it is true.

I wonder if the starter will follow you the whole game,or if you can take your Pokemon out of their Poke Balls outside of battle?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on May 10, 2009, 10:36:02 am
I know. that screenshot reminds me of Pokemon Yellow.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on May 10, 2009, 10:53:44 am
Speaking of contests, is anyone having trouble with the Master Rank? My Milotic has MAX Beauty, but she gets fourth place in the contests  >_>

Any tips?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on May 10, 2009, 11:19:46 am
well,  I've heard that having ribbons makes you more likely to win. so just get as many ribbons as you can.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on May 10, 2009, 01:09:50 pm
Speaking of contests, is anyone having trouble with the Master Rank? My Milotic has MAX Beauty, but she gets fourth place in the contests  >_>

Any tips?
Make sure you have a Blue Scarf. That'll get you a boost. In addition, make sure you have a good nature, namely Modest/Quiet/Rash/Mild.

During the first round, be sure to use accessories that fit the theme. If you can pause the game and tell me the theme, I can give you some accessories to use.

During the dance portion, Make sure you follow the lead Pokemon's dance exactly. This takes practice. When it's your turn, be sure to use all 4 castanets. Leave some long gaps between hits, and hit them on the dark lines, both of which might throw the others off. Finally, make sure to end on a blue castanet. This'll make your Pokemon briefly cover the pink score, which might throw them off if you made a move at the very beginning of the blue score.

Finally, be sure to make a good performance. Choose moves that benefit the contest, try to get the voltage maxed out, etc. etc.

Hope it helps. ^_^


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on May 10, 2009, 02:03:32 pm
If HG/SS has contests I hope they don't interfere with the original map... they should add islands(like in FRLG) to have the contests on...

@Blade: wow. That pic of Newbark is so different from the pic on Serebii... Newbark looks amazing!

And is your starter gonna follow you around for long? I can see that getting annoying(although it would be like yellow...)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 10, 2009, 05:55:56 pm
Missed a bit.

Herochild: Well, maybe it'll be so that you can change it without it getting all messed up like in D/P/Pt(That gets annoying >_>)? And I dunno... =/ Not sure what they could really do with it. And the Unknown weren't really that hard to get in D/P/Pt... Isn't there only one place to track them down in GSC?

Mata Nui: Just because you don't like them doesn't mean others don't, but I do agree about the battling part being nice to have as an addition...

RP: 0_o Which pic? the one I posted? That was from G/S/C, I posted as a comparison to show just how evolved it is =) And if that's what you're saying and I totally misread your post... Whoops. >_>'' The starter issue will be interesting... I wonder if any other Pokemon(Gallade?) can do that, or if it's just until you get back to the lab after fighting Silver?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on May 10, 2009, 07:07:19 pm
Question about the power items: Does it lower the Speed stat, or Speed EVs?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 10, 2009, 07:29:24 pm
Speed stat. It'd be counterproductive for the one that raises the Speed EVs. =P It's like an iron ball. ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on May 10, 2009, 07:43:55 pm
That's annoying... If it lowered the EV, it'd make things much easier. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 10, 2009, 07:50:29 pm
But here's the thing; if you switch out the Pokemon, it still gains all the Evs it would if it had've stayed in, and you get to obliterate the poor hapless Pokemon you're fighting with your strongest Pokemon, in my case either Dialga, Palkia, or Giratina(I've been using those to fight the 4 near Mr. Backlot's mansion...  ;)). =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on May 10, 2009, 08:32:53 pm
No, I'm trying not to kill speed with the power items. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on May 10, 2009, 09:30:59 pm
OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG!!! (Pardon the language  ;D)

I won Beauty Contest Master Rank with my Milotic!!!111!!!11!!oneone!!11!

What was funny was that the total points for overall contest was COMPLETE! FULL! (I hope you know what I mean)

I would like to thank Dudebot and a Pokemon Guide Book for helping me achieve this. 

Just four more ranks to go, hehe... 


I will add pictures shortly...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on May 10, 2009, 10:13:48 pm
Way to go, B~T! =D

I'm giving my credit to the Platinum Guide Book, though. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on May 11, 2009, 09:02:50 am
Good job B~T. The last time I did that was in Emerald... I think I won 4 or five master ranks... although back then there was only battle moves to compete with, plus however many pkblocks you put on...

@Blade: Yeah, I meant the pic you posted of GSC was way different from Serebii's pic... brings back odd memories...

I finished EV training my Electivire. I'm trying to breed the rest of the Eeveelutions. Which natures should I go for( I need Eevee and everything but Leafeon...)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 11, 2009, 09:14:23 am
I could use help with my master Ranks... I think I've got a few of them started, but so far uncompleted. And I'm wanting all the stars(That I can get... I hope I'm able to get another DS or a DSi, so I can do the Underground... >_<), so...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on May 11, 2009, 03:48:16 pm
(http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr213/B_T_Energized/Pokemon/0510092226.jpg)

If anyone here doesn't believe me, I have proof right here.

For the Smart Contests, my Level 50 Banette is an easy victory. Just catch one at Route 225/226 at night. Of course, you have to apply Pokeblock/Poffins in effect if you want to win.

Smart ~ Sucker Punch -- Appeals first in next turn
Smart ~ Shadow Ball --  +2 if appealed first.
Smart ~ Faint Attack -- +2 if appealed last.

You should easily formulate a strategy with this moveset depending on whether you are first, 2nd, 3rd, or last.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: 0PureChaos0 on May 11, 2009, 05:47:21 pm
Congrats B~T! I only did that in Emerald.... with Castform. :P

Your DS is orange?!?!?!  :o
I must have it!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 11, 2009, 05:52:09 pm
Hmm, I've never heard of an orange DS... It isn't the flash, is it? But congrats on the achievement =)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: 0PureChaos0 on May 11, 2009, 06:06:58 pm
Then again, it could be well put on skin....
does anybody here think the Pokemon series is ever going to end? (not that I want it to)
 


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 11, 2009, 06:09:48 pm
I think it'll go on as long as Nintendo makes money off it =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on May 11, 2009, 06:51:48 pm
I should try for a master rank... although I don't have a good pkmn atm. Maybe my Ampharos from Pearl could try for a cool ribbon. It did win(and get it's pic taken =D ) in Emerald...



Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: 0PureChaos0 on May 11, 2009, 07:00:35 pm
Well, I'm off to train my Pokemon. Bye's!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on May 11, 2009, 07:01:39 pm
0PC0 - The DSLite is white...  -.-.  It's just the camera. But it does look orange sorta...  ::).

 
I guess I'll use my Dragonite for the cool contests...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 11, 2009, 08:12:51 pm
Does anyone here support a Kanghaskan baby pokemon? Or has anyone here ever used a Heracross?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 12, 2009, 09:36:49 am
What are the odds that CoroCoro details start releasing right when I get on? =P

Good and bad news. I'll start with the bad news... Crystal as she appeared in G/S/C doesn't seem to be reappearing as the female trainer in here...

Good news? A new female trainer character has been made. Looks way different from Crystal. And it seems there's an event at Ilex Forest that features both PC Pichu and NE Pichu... I'll let you guys decipher the acronyms. =)

/EDIT: It looks like Gold's staying around the same... And I can see a weird pic in the background of Gold; can't make out what it's about or where it is though...

//EDIT:
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There are more pics showing the Starter following you in places including Violet City & Azalea Town.
^ From Serebii. =D

///EDIT: Hey guys... I just saw a better scan of the page that has Gold's new art... Is it just me, or is that pic to the left a first person scene?! ////EDIT: -- Confirmed.

New PokeGear looks pretty cool. You can see it on Gold's new art's arm, and updated Crystal's bag. ... If that's what it is of course, but I doubt it'd be the Pokedex if it's on Gold's arm... Though, it could always be something else, though I doubt it myself.

/////EDIT: ... That was fast. I missed something.
Quote
The scan also says that the female trainer (or male if you selected female) will serve a Support Role in the game similar to how Dawn & Lucas are in Diamond, Pearl & Platinum
^_^


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 12, 2009, 11:03:05 am
^Most edits inone post,eva.

I hope the starter follows you the whole game.

Notch-Eared Pichu? Yes! Now i can get  one!

Okay,question of opinion:If by some awesome clash Ho-Oh and Lugia were to fight,who would win? If lugia knows Ancientpower,i would pick it.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 12, 2009, 11:05:46 am
1. Actually, I think I've done more in one post one time on BZP. =P

2. It's looking that way... Since it's apparently in Violet City and Azalea(The more I look at that one unknown scene the more I get the feeling it's by Sprout Tower... But that had a path leading up to it... =/)

3. Yeah, it looks like that may be possible =)

4. Lugia. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 12, 2009, 11:09:00 am
@4.Agreed. Lugia has better Speed,too.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 12, 2009, 11:18:44 am
That first person thing next to Gold BTW, is Sprout Tower =) And if that's the new Pokegear on Gold's arm, it looks pretty awesome.

What do you guys think about Crystal's look being updated like this?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 12, 2009, 11:21:26 am
IDK,i haven't seen the pics.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 12, 2009, 11:22:48 am
*Points at Serebii's front page* Has the new trainer art.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Master X: Neo Black on May 12, 2009, 11:27:07 am
Hey Blade.  I need you to answer my PM's.  *Sorry guys I don't like Pokemon I just needed to tell Blade that, talk on*


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on May 12, 2009, 11:33:11 am
Is Crystal the ?? ?? guy? because I  thought that ?? ?? was male...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 12, 2009, 11:37:32 am
Crystal's the female introduced in Crystal. And also what I'm calling HGSS's female char. Gold's the male char in all of them, and Silver's the rival who steals the Pokemon from Elm's lab. Gold and Crystal(Or Kris as some people call her) got art updates. Crystal got a whole new outfit, and a hair colour change, along with other stuff like a new hat. It's like how Blue changed so much from the missing Female Player Character to the Female PC in FRLG(Though, some people call her Leaf in FRLG's version of Blue).


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on May 12, 2009, 11:41:47 am
oh, ok.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 12, 2009, 12:00:59 pm
*sigh*.....knowing what these gamez are isn't helping me wait.....


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 12, 2009, 12:05:29 pm
Yeah... Hey, just curious, but what type of battery does the GSC games use?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on May 12, 2009, 12:13:13 pm
I want to go 2010, get Soul Silver, and come back.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 12, 2009, 12:15:00 pm
Same here. Shame Walmart's sold out of Time Machines. =P (Wait; maybe I could virtualize myself into GSC, steal the Time capsule, and modify it to go into the future and devirtualize myself and the time capsule! =P)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 12, 2009, 12:17:48 pm
I want to go 2010, get Soul Silver, and come back.


Yeah,I'm looking at SS for Lugia....which Legendary should i choose?

It also depends on whether or not Elekid/Magby are version exclusives...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on May 12, 2009, 12:18:21 pm
I wonder HG/SS will have the communications center? only instead of communicating with a cell phone, it could communicate with the Wii!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 12, 2009, 12:54:02 pm
I wonder HG/SS will have the communications center? only instead of communicating with a cell phone, it could communicate with the Wii!
No, I don't wanna have to get a Wii just to get the special stuff in this... I say keep it, but instead of communicating with a device, turn it into a new GTS...

Also, someone on SPPf pointed out something... Find a Screenie of Ilex forest, then compare it to the new one shown in the NE Pichu and PC Pichu event thing... =/


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on May 12, 2009, 01:19:14 pm
good idea! a Goldenrod GTS!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 12, 2009, 01:49:00 pm
Hey, I just remembered Hoppip's GSC Pokedex entry... Didn't it say about how it could float on even the smallest breezes? And isn't the new New Bark supposed to have wind currents? Maybe we'll see Hoppip flying by or something while we play =P

/EDIT: Oh hey, look what I found, it seems that Bulbapedia has a full-res version of the scans... All in one image =D (http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/2/2e/HGSS-Corocoro.jpg)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on May 12, 2009, 06:23:51 pm
=O  the male char doesn;t have white hair!!!

... but he looks like a five year old lol...

Oh well, the rest of the graphics look good :)

SS FTW!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 12, 2009, 06:32:34 pm
1. You were expecting him too? None of the main chars has white hair... I think Ruby's was a hat ;)

2. It's the change in art I think that's making you think that...? I dunno. *Shrugs*

3. I agree ^_^

4. Same here, I'm getting SS when it comes out =)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 12, 2009, 09:33:41 pm
Yup,SS is looking likely for me,too. I just wish we knew more about the Pokedex setup....a lot of speculation of what the Pokedex will be.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on May 12, 2009, 09:42:12 pm
If I can get it, SS would be my choice.

Really hope for a Pokedex that covers all the Pokemon's evolutions...

Ex: Elekid --> Electabuzz --> Electivire


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 12, 2009, 09:46:31 pm
I know....I hope there are no version exclusives.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on May 12, 2009, 09:54:53 pm
I may go for HG, just to be different. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 12, 2009, 09:57:23 pm
Yeah...I'll trade you a high-level Infernape for Ho-oh!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 13, 2009, 09:02:34 am
I know....I hope there are no version exclusives.
There's always Version exclusives, or there wouldn't be any need for two games. ;)

And if it follows GSC, like I hope, both legendary birds will be in the same game, just one at a lower level.


New clearer pic of the two screens have been released... And...

It seems the touchscreen has the menu now. =D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 13, 2009, 10:02:45 am
Do you have a link for the pics?

He hasn't posted here in a while....feels different.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 13, 2009, 10:10:17 am
Just go to Serebii's front page, it's up there as the most recent news story >_>


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 13, 2009, 10:14:14 am
Ah. Yeah,looks like they're still getting the game started-all the pics are from early in the game.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 13, 2009, 10:48:19 am
What, you'd think they'd give pics of Kanto and Red when the game's still months away? =P Though, I do wanna see what Red and Green look like now, and if Blue's in the game... But before all that, I wanna see a battle screenie...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 13, 2009, 10:50:30 am
Heck yeah. i just wish that they wouldn't release a game and leave us waiting 6 months to give us more than minor details.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 13, 2009, 10:56:34 am
But they've only announced it, and we'll find out everything in six months, while waiting our own six months to get the game. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 13, 2009, 02:01:23 pm
Yeah,i guess so.

Has anyone here ever gone without there starter in the game? Like,get the starter and ditch it? I never do,they are so darn strong.

EDIT:sorry about the multi post if anyone saw it. I posted,then i accidentally pressed the quick-reply post button again,and thought my post was deleted. So i posted a similar messege again,and noticed that my old post(thiis one) came back,. I deleted the new(second) one. Sorry  about off-setting the post count.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 13, 2009, 02:25:35 pm
Yeah,i know about the version exclusive thing.

What I'm curious is,how ddo we get Heracross? In GSC you had to Headbutt a Tree,which seems somewhat unlikely to return,butcha never know. Maybe in that bug-catching place....


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 13, 2009, 03:14:55 pm
Has anyone here ever gone without there starter in the game? Like,get the starter and ditch it? I never do,they are so darn strong.
I personally have only done that to Mudkip, and I don't even remember why =|

Quote
Yeah.  As I said on MLNTeam, let's keep fantasizing about new teams down a bit, taken with a grain of salt.  We assume that things will be kept similar to GSC (because they should), but we don't know.  We'll have to see.
Yeah, I'd only keep stuff in that's only guaranteed, like the fact that I'm keeping Chikorita as my Starter =P

What I'm curious is,how ddo we get Heracross? In GSC you had to Headbutt a Tree,which seems somewhat unlikely to return,butcha never know. Maybe in that bug-catching place....
Dunno... Some people are thinking maybe Honey Trees, but I hope not, that was annoying and I only used it once in Platinum... >_> But, some people are thinking the trees may be bigger and spread out more.


Also, there's new scans of something else, and they're much clearer, and the shot of Slowpoke Well is much bigger as well. You can see that the back of Gold's hat has a Pokeball design or something on it ^_^ Plus other stuff as well, like people are thinking that one building may be Ecruteak... And are noting that Cyndaquil still isn't evolved...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on May 13, 2009, 03:37:19 pm
1. You were expecting him too? None of the main chars has white hair... I think Ruby's was a hat ;)

2. It's the change in art I think that's making you think that...? I dunno. *Shrugs*

3. I agree ^_^

4. Same here, I'm getting SS when it comes out =)
1. In the games from RSE and DPP then guy's hair was white(at least it looked that way to be...
2. I dunno...
3. cool
4. same as 3...

I has a life too! lol

never dithced my starter except in pkmn yellow, when I got Bulbasaur, Charmander and Blastoise, then ditched the pikachu... I trained it later though...

I hate honey trees. I keep getting wurmple and the pkmn that has 3 different forms... and one combee!(which I bred and now have a Vespiquen: Attack order, defend order, heal order and 1 other move(same as E4 vespiquen...))


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 13, 2009, 04:01:57 pm
RP 1: Lucas's hair isn't white 0_o And Rowan's old, so...
RP 2: Reason I think that is with either R/S or FR/LG, the art style changed to a slimmer version, as you can see when you compare the art on Gold's Bulbapedia page(Or Silver's) to Red or "Leaf"'s pages.

RP 3: You have Yellow? Cool.

RP 4: Cool, one of the reasons I've just not bothered is the Pokedex says you can't get Munchlax in Platinum... But the weird thing is, I dunno 'bout Bulbapedia, but Serebii's site says it's available in Plat at a 1% chance, though that could be simple C/Ping...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 13, 2009, 04:03:04 pm
@RP-I know...Honey Trees are awful. I think they were actually conceived in G/S/C.

@Blade-I have Yellow too.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on May 13, 2009, 04:13:07 pm
Yeah...I'll trade you a high-level Infernape for Ho-oh!
Yeah... No. I already has Infernape. =P

Gold should have a skateboard instead of a bike... =P

I also has Yellow. ^_^


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: 0PureChaos0 on May 13, 2009, 04:19:27 pm
*starts to play Tony Hawk music*

Yea, that would be cool.

I'm drawing pictures for my classmates in school of pokemon, so don't expect me here much!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 13, 2009, 04:19:36 pm
MN: They were thought of, but weren't put in until D/P/Pt.

Everyone: ... Does everyone have the first two gens except me? =P

Dudebot: Yeah, it fits him, 'specially because of his Special version. And the fact it was originally apparently supposed to be in GSC. But, right now it's just a rumour and from what we know apparently isn't true...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: 0PureChaos0 on May 13, 2009, 04:21:42 pm
MN: They were thought of, but weren't put in until D/P/Pt.

Everyone: ... Does everyone have the first two gens except me? =P

Dudebot: Yeah, it fits him, 'specially because of his Special version. And the fact it was originally apparently supposed to be in GSC. But, right now it's just a rumour and from what we know apparently isn't true...

I have gold and blue..... ;D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on May 13, 2009, 04:29:44 pm
I lack Blue and Crystal. -_-


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 13, 2009, 04:30:46 pm
The only game i ever lost was my Gold Version....


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 13, 2009, 04:53:49 pm
Famitsu pics (http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/2/24/Famitsu_HGSS.jpg) and Closeups of CoroCoro (http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/1/1a/HGSS-CoroCoro_closeup.jpg).

... Hey guys... You don't happen to know how much yen is in comparison to USD, right?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on May 13, 2009, 05:06:16 pm
I has Yellow, Red, Crystal...

Why was Arceus shown? and those pics brought some nice memories...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: 0PureChaos0 on May 13, 2009, 05:11:21 pm
Just got done drawing a Feebas....
RP: That's proably for the Arceus event in Japan.
Omega: Those were some nice pictures.... I mean good memories....  :-[


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 13, 2009, 05:13:43 pm
Because of the Movie Arceus. It's just showing off the Hiker that gives a Flame Plate, and the Canalave thing is for Lucian I think, from what I read on the Article on Bulbapedia's Talk page. See, I think having an Arceus unlocks the Hiker and possibly Lucian(Though I'm wondering if that's just by beating the E4 the first time, though I think I went through that and didn't see all what I read on SPPf...)

But the HGSS stuff was interesting... Plus the fact that that Pokeball thing is this game's new Starter Select thing from the looks of it. And the Touchscreen Menu looks epic, though I hope you can access it by touching the touch screen only...

/EDIT: Serebii's new page confirms it's not Lucian, but instead the Hiker again.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on May 13, 2009, 05:49:56 pm
What's this Lucian thing?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 13, 2009, 05:52:23 pm
@Blade-4800 Yen is about 50 bucks. Hard to believe.

I believe Serbii said the Sept.11 release was fake,along with the skateboard thing. Although,as Japan was not a victim of that day,you never know.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 13, 2009, 05:53:38 pm
I don't really know. Apparently you meet Lucian in Canalave Museum, but this thing from Arceus is something else. It's nothing huge like Regi or Shaymin's special things though...

MN: What about say, 2,000? It's not that I'm talking about... Though yes, it is fake.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on May 13, 2009, 06:28:21 pm
Is it good if my Electivire has 303 Speed Stat at lv 98?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on May 13, 2009, 06:38:20 pm
How many EVs does it have?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: 0PureChaos0 on May 13, 2009, 06:47:52 pm
Is it good if my Electivire has 303 Speed Stat at lv 98?

My Torterra has about 296 Speed....
Speaking of Torterra, I drew him about 2 days ago!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 13, 2009, 09:02:07 pm
I hear you like to draw Pokemon....

@Blade-$20.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 14, 2009, 09:07:48 am
Then... What could have a price of 20 Dollars and a release date in around July? =/ Can't be a game... The only thing I'd see that it could be is the movie, and I doubt it'd be 20 dollars to see it in theaters...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 14, 2009, 10:04:40 am
$50...a wii game? $20.....i'm stumped there.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 14, 2009, 10:13:16 am
No, $50 would more than likely be like the DS games... But what would be 20 dollars? =/


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on May 14, 2009, 02:25:15 pm
How many EVs does it have?
~252, Naive Nature...

Currently training a Rampardos. Naughty Nature(yeah, not great, I would've prefered Adamant, but it doesn't need spl defence does it?)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on May 14, 2009, 04:02:01 pm
I still don't understand EVs...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on May 14, 2009, 05:01:54 pm
B~T's Guide to EV training (http://mln.smfforfree4.com/index.php/topic,2447.msg99091.html#msg99091)
B~T's guide to IVs (http://mln.smfforfree4.com/index.php/topic,2447.msg80975.html#msg80975)
These should help you out. ^_^


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on May 14, 2009, 05:06:06 pm
How many EVs does it have?
~252, Naive Nature...

Currently training a Rampardos. Naughty Nature(yeah, not great, I would've prefered Adamant, but it doesn't need spl defence does it?)


Your Electivire has 24 IVs in Speed. Not too bad...

Adamant is WAY preferred, since Rampardos I think doesn't have the best defenses. Jolly works as well.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on May 14, 2009, 05:53:53 pm
How many EVs does it have?
~252, Naive Nature...

Currently training a Rampardos. Naughty Nature(yeah, not great, I would've prefered Adamant, but it doesn't need spl defence does it?)


Your Electivire has 24 IVs in Speed. Not too bad...

Adamant is WAY preferred, since Rampardos I think doesn't have the best defenses. Jolly works as well.
My Electivire is not yet lv 100... just in case you misunderstood...

Yeah, well, I won't be using it competitavely(it's very unlikely at least), so it shouldn't matter too much. How odes this moveset sound:

Rampardos- Naughty Nature
Wide Lens(the lens that ups accuracy)
-Head Smash
-Earthquake
-Zen Headbutt
-Stone Edge/Brick Break

The item is too help with Zen Headbutt, Headsmash and a possible Stone Edge...

My Leafeon has a Lax Nature(yay!). I'm currently removing all special EVs and replacing them with attack EVs, since Lax boosts its defence already.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 14, 2009, 06:01:35 pm
... You've actually got a point there. That's a reason that that 'news' about the 'release date' and the 'skateboard' is fake in itself ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on May 14, 2009, 06:18:39 pm
Quote
These games will be worth roughly $35, not $50.  Handheld games have always been in that range.  And at any rate, prices are deflating, so if it's going anywhere, it's going to go down, but I doubt that.  $35-$40 is a safe bet.
I think you're right, although my Emerald game cost me 50$ (with tax, but still) when I bought it.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Jo351 on May 14, 2009, 09:47:14 pm
I just finished training a Scyther on Diamond.

Ev trained for Attack(349).

Moveset:
Wing Attack
X-Scissor
Night Slash
Swords Dance

Now when I evolve it into a Scizor should I replace one of the moves with Iron Head?  If so which one?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 15, 2009, 09:33:15 am
Whoa, the pic with Gold and the two Pichus on the Serebii.net gallery is the clearest of them all I think =O And you can even see that Notched Ear Pichu has the notch... But why would they have the two sprites? =/


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on May 15, 2009, 02:25:10 pm
I just finished training a Scyther on Diamond.

Ev trained for Attack(349).

Moveset:
Wing Attack
X-Scissor
Night Slash
Swords Dance

Now when I evolve it into a Scizor should I replace one of the moves with Iron Head?  If so which one?
If your Scyther's ability is technician I would go with Bullet Punch instead of Iron Head. I think I'd trash Wing Attack for the steel move. Also, Roost may be a good move to teach before evolving, so that if you're using a Life Orb as your Scisor's item you could recover. If you're using a different item, then you don't need Roost. Also, if you're using a choice item you may consider Bullet Punch over Iron head for it's speed, and it's gain in power thanks to the choice item. However, if you're using the Choice item that ups speed, go with Iron Head...

My team now has 4 pkmn at lv 98...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 15, 2009, 06:01:56 pm
More pics and info on HG/SS:

http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/HeartGold_and_SoulSilver_information_revealed

here are what the pics are:
Pichu Event
Kurt's house
Touch Screen Menu
Picking your starter
Sprout Tower
Slowpoke Well

And new artwork: http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:HGSS_art_set1.png

 


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 15, 2009, 06:06:04 pm
Actually, no-one knows exactly where that is I don't think. Or at least I think so, since Serebii says it's in Ecruteak, and you see what Bulbagarden says.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on May 15, 2009, 06:07:25 pm
this is so cool. I can't wait.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 15, 2009, 06:07:54 pm
@Blade:*urg*

When are you going to add the next chapter to you Pokemon series?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 15, 2009, 06:10:55 pm
Eventually... Hopefully this weekend. Working on a new project, but the epic won't be abandoned.(I've also gotta put up that other WIP epic that I may have actually figured out how it'll work)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on May 15, 2009, 06:16:01 pm
@Blade: how's your Pokemon RPG working out? any ideas on how to fit my team in?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 15, 2009, 06:16:51 pm
He has a Pokemon RPG to? I thought it was just a writing series...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on May 15, 2009, 06:20:18 pm
he's making a text-based RPG that I'm looking forward to.
and I made my own villain team! (meaning I'll need a new username for that RPG. Freeze Grunt Herochild just sounds wrong.)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 15, 2009, 06:22:12 pm
No one told me that! I thought he was just thinking about it!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 15, 2009, 06:25:22 pm
... Uhhh... >_> <_< *Backs away slowly* So, who here likes HGSS? *Subtly changes subject*


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 15, 2009, 06:27:11 pm
Stop trying to fool me! You think i like Pokemon less than Herochild because he's new!?! *rants*

Hey,you brought this on yourself.

I like Hg/SS. 


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on May 15, 2009, 06:28:08 pm
I'm probably going to get Soul SIlver. too many bad memories about Gold. (no Save file exists due to battery problems, etc)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 15, 2009, 06:28:39 pm
Actually, that wasn't the reason I told him about my plans... >_>''

What type of battery is the battery in the carts anyway?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 15, 2009, 06:29:56 pm
I'm probably going to get Soul SIlver. too many bad memories about Gold. (no Save file exists due to battery problems, etc)

Yeah. Gold was the only pokemon game i ever lost.

@Blade-*keeps ranting*


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on May 15, 2009, 06:32:07 pm
Actually, that wasn't the reason I told him about my plans... >_>''

What type of battery is the battery in the carts anyway?
why did you tell me? And if you want, I'll draw up my teams logo in Paint.Net and PM it to you (as an attachment).


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 15, 2009, 06:33:00 pm
I only wanted to know what people would think of it, and I already knew your reaction to it T_T

All will be revealed in time though...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 15, 2009, 06:34:10 pm
@HC-so you have the villainous team...if you want i can be an Admin,i am willing to stick to any type if it isn't poison,normal or bug.

@Blade-*deafening rant* When can we expect it to be ready? [sarcastic]or is it to top-secret for me?[/sarcastic]


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on May 15, 2009, 06:35:26 pm
well, I'd rather that the team LEADER be female... but you could be an admin along with me, as long as it's OK with Blade.
*goes back to drawing the team logo*


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 15, 2009, 06:38:00 pm
Actually, HC have a villainous team.

And it should be soon. Only certain members know when it's actually gonna be done(Or... Rather, hopes of when it should be done =P), and those know because they're helping me. And if anyone knows who's helping, please don't tell right now =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 15, 2009, 06:38:23 pm
@HC:oh...figured you'd be the leader.

Maybe i can give you some details via PM. of my character.

@Blade-*continues ranting* why couldn't I help you? I am a pretty good storyline writer,actually.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 15, 2009, 06:39:46 pm
Also, please remember that only those certain members have full details of the RPG as it stands currently ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on May 15, 2009, 06:46:02 pm
it won't let me attach my team logo to my post. I am within the size limit and using the proper file type (.GIF)
what's wrong?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 15, 2009, 07:21:31 pm
It likes to be annoying sometimes... >_>


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on May 15, 2009, 07:26:59 pm
well, I uploaded it to a website now (windows live photos)  so I should be able to just use image tags now...
(http://40i2hw.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pqIPExuG043ReA_NakxYTqkgZLv74ZUx1lG3777zfI8uG7aSYC5x0zkhWI8KIdm_rZv7i8zxb7FVXYyTInMV2Rw/Team%20Freeze%20Logo.png)

IT WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I gave Mata Nui a copy of this picture so he could change the color, but this is it!
EDIT: hmmm... the tip should be pointier, and the icicles on the bottom aren't very good... and there aren't many girls here that like Pokemon, so who will we have as team leader?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 15, 2009, 09:25:23 pm
There are NO girls here that like pokemon. And i accidentaly deleted the PM,can you send it to me again?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on May 15, 2009, 09:40:51 pm
just right click the picture above, and click "save image as". then go to where it was saved to.
and I suppose the team leader can be fictional. if she's ever needed, one of us can pretend to be a girl.
(I just think we need a female team leader, since there are almost none in the games.)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on May 15, 2009, 10:10:17 pm
Hey guys, leave the RPG stuff for PMs. This isn't the right place for it. ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on May 15, 2009, 10:25:56 pm
OK.
I still want to know if HG/SS will have the features of Crystal...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 16, 2009, 09:49:55 am
Just one more little comment...


There are NO girls here that like pokemon.
That's... Not exactly true. There's at least one girl here that likes Pokemon ;)

/EDIT: Have no clue why I put an extra quote tag there... >_>


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 18, 2009, 10:35:32 am
Just one more little comment...


There are NO girls here that like pokemon.
That's... Not exactly true. There's at least one girl here that likes Pokemon ;)

/EDIT: Have no clue why I put an extra quote tag there... >_>
Oh yeah? Name one.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 18, 2009, 10:37:21 am
*Points to one of the recent news topics*


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Maplen13 on May 18, 2009, 10:44:19 am
Hmmm.. since this is about the game Pokemon, maybe diamond & perl since I played that, Or maybe Emerald. BUT... My favorite pokemon, is the Legendary....... Rayquaza...just do :D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on May 18, 2009, 10:45:26 am
Just one more little comment...


There are NO girls here that like pokemon.
That's... Not exactly true. There's at least one girl here that likes Pokemon ;)

/EDIT: Have no clue why I put an extra quote tag there... >_>
Oh yeah? Name one.
Destroyer Behemoth?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Jo351 on May 18, 2009, 10:56:14 am
I just finished training a Scyther on Diamond.

Ev trained for Attack(349).

Moveset:
Wing Attack
X-Scissor
Night Slash
Swords Dance

Now when I evolve it into a Scizor should I replace one of the moves with Iron Head?  If so which one?
If your Scyther's ability is technician I would go with Bullet Punch instead of Iron Head. I think I'd trash Wing Attack for the steel move. Also, Roost may be a good move to teach before evolving, so that if you're using a Life Orb as your Scisor's item you could recover. If you're using a different item, then you don't need Roost. Also, if you're using a choice item you may consider Bullet Punch over Iron head for it's speed, and it's gain in power thanks to the choice item. However, if you're using the Choice item that ups speed, go with Iron Head...

My team now has 4 pkmn at lv 98...

Thanks for the advice!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 18, 2009, 11:08:08 am
Hmmm.. since this is about the game Pokemon, maybe diamond & perl since I played that, Or maybe Emerald. BUT... My favorite pokemon, is the Legendary....... Rayquaza...just do :D
This is the topic for everything Pokemon ;)
Just one more little comment...


There are NO girls here that like pokemon.
That's... Not exactly true. There's at least one girl here that likes Pokemon ;)

/EDIT: Have no clue why I put an extra quote tag there... >_>
Oh yeah? Name one.
Destroyer Behemoth?
Yeah.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 18, 2009, 11:18:37 am
@Blade-Really? I never see Disky post here.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on May 18, 2009, 11:21:46 am
nor have I.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 18, 2009, 11:51:58 am
She doesn't post here though. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on May 18, 2009, 01:20:24 pm
one thing I'd like to know about HG/SS is this: will the Crystal-only places, such as the Dragon Shrine, be there?
and in G/S/C, they've only just discovered Pokemon eggs, while eggs are old news in D/P/P.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 18, 2009, 01:24:24 pm
D/P/Pt takes place around the middle of G/S/C or so though, because of the Red Gyarados Report ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on May 18, 2009, 01:33:15 pm
then why is there nothing special about Pokemon eggs? and why does FR/LG, which happens 5 years before G/S/C/HG/SS, have eggs?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 18, 2009, 01:35:30 pm
1. ... Huh?

2. First of all, R/G/B/Y/Fr/Lg happen three years before G/S/C/Hg/Ss ;) Second, maybe they were discovered earlier in the Sevii Islands? Since that's the only place you could get them. And either way, it's gameplay updates to match the rest of the games, so...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on May 18, 2009, 02:05:49 pm
1: I mean, why is there nothing shocking about the Sinnoh pokemon eggs?
2: but wouldn't the Sevii islands have told their nearby continents about their discovery?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 18, 2009, 02:08:44 pm
1. Because it's after the discovery in Johto. Remember the guy in Hearthome that gives you the Happiny egg? He talks about how Elm talked about eggs if I'm not mistaken, so by that time, people know about Pokemon eggs. Though, the Day Care man still acts shocked every time you get an egg =P

2. Maybe they knew about it for years and didn't think it was a discovery? *Shrugs*


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on May 18, 2009, 02:13:21 pm
1 & 2: good points.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on May 18, 2009, 03:11:51 pm
I'm back...

currently training a GSC team. only part full though.

Quilava
Murkrow
Tediursa

yeah. probably adding Scisor to it, although that one's done training. Probably gonna train a Crobat and one other pkmn. I'm trying to limit it to GSC only pkmn(none that came after that.)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 18, 2009, 03:14:03 pm
Will you be including evolutions introduced, or evolutions of G/S/C baby Pokemon, like Electabuzz or Electivire or such?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on May 18, 2009, 04:59:32 pm
I'm probably gonna limit my team to pkmn that were available when GSC came out. That means no Electivire, but if you could evolve Elekid into Electabuzz then he'd be included...

So my team would be:
Typhlosion
Murkrow(post E4 becomes Honchcrow)
Ursaring
Scisor
Crobat
Tyranitar/Misdreavus(post E4 becomes Mismagius)


BTW, this is in my Plat. In SS I'm gonna start with one of the other two since I have the Typhlosion line already...)
and I'm guessing that Superluck is better than Insomnia for Murkrow's ability?
And I've never trained an Ursaring, Crobat, Misdreavus before, and I only just started training a Murkrow.



Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 18, 2009, 05:02:27 pm
Ah, thought so.

... Is it a good sign when you start trading and you get a communication error? I assume both mine and the person I was trading with's Pokemon are fine, but...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on May 18, 2009, 05:17:39 pm
Ah, thought so.

... Is it a good sign when you start trading and you get a communication error? I assume both mine and the person I was trading with's Pokemon are fine, but...
Over the GTS or between two DSs? I have only traded between two DSs, but have not encountered a problem so far. I don't really know. They're probably fine though...

unless they were eaten by a rabid Munchlax >_> ...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 18, 2009, 05:34:57 pm
1. Two DSes over WFC. And there was no prob after all =)

2. xD I wouldn't rule out that happening... (I want a Munchlax... T_T Too far back in Fr/Lg to get a Snorlax though...)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Jo351 on May 18, 2009, 05:36:59 pm
2. xD I wouldn't rule out that happening... (I want a Munchlax... T_T Too far back in Fr/Lg to get a Snorlax though...)
I got some.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on May 18, 2009, 05:49:39 pm
2. xD I wouldn't rule out that happening... (I want a Munchlax... T_T Too far back in Fr/Lg to get a Snorlax though...)
I got some.
I has level 5 Munchlax... traded a duplicated one from Emerald(Snorlax that is), which I got from my bro's FR...

@Blade: good that there's no problem :)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on May 19, 2009, 07:32:47 pm
Question:

On a Scizor, which is better - Brick Break or Aerial Ace?

My current moveset for my Adamant Scizor is -
~ X-Scissor
~ Aerial Ace
~ Brick Break
~ Night Slash (which will be replaced with Swords Dance)

I just can't decide which is the better option.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 19, 2009, 08:19:32 pm
Good question....

Well,the Brick Break has more power. However the Aerial Ace has higher accuracy. But.....Brick Break has strength against 5 types,as Aerial Ace has 3. i admit my answer is not as good as the others,but all in all i suggest Brick Break.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on May 19, 2009, 10:28:01 pm
I'll go and approve that for Blade so you can get it up tonight; If Blade disagrees, then we'll go from there.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 20, 2009, 10:25:50 am
Sure. And really, maybe it could be kept up, to list what it does and doesn't have.

And it's the most logical thing, unless there's another Gyarados(And wasn't it mentioned it was at the lake of rage? I forget, it's been quite a while since I was at the start of Diamond.), it has to either be right before Gold appears at the Lake of Rage(Because I don't think it had been there long.), just a little after he defeats/catches it, or after the G/S/C storyline.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Tom on May 21, 2009, 07:59:14 pm
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do u liek mudkipz?
/resists urge to notify him of ....

Anyways, I'm plan on breeding soon and was wondering what I should breed. I've got a poll elsewhere asking people what they'd like me to breed, so far the Pokemon taking the lead are..... Mudkips ( =/ ) and Whismurs, even though they weren't an option. So what would ya'll like me to breed, because I plan on breeding a good lot of them. Starters, Feebas, Whismur or VT Pichus?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 21, 2009, 08:01:58 pm
Well...i guess i don't really have a crucial vote,as i can't get on zee wi-fi,but i suggest VT Pichus and Feebas,maybe some starters. But DEFINITELY not Whismur. Exploud isn't really that good.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 22, 2009, 08:39:10 am
Do you happen to have a Snorlax? If so, I wouldn't mind you breeding mass Munchlax. (If you can supply them with enough food on the other hand.. =P)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on May 22, 2009, 03:35:25 pm
I has dilemma. If I wanted to, I could turn every pokemon I have into a shiney. But I'm not sure if I want to... -_-


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 22, 2009, 03:37:04 pm
Via AR, right? Do the right thing and keep it the way it is. ;)

... Is there any trick to getting a shiny Pokemon though? =/


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on May 22, 2009, 04:00:12 pm
Yeah. But the thought of it... *Puts code on AR just in case*

I've heard rumors, but they sound bogus. Like make your pokemon carry around a nugget. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 22, 2009, 04:02:31 pm
Pfft, If that were true, then I probably would've seen a few if I forgot to take off them after migrating a Pokemon =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 22, 2009, 04:02:38 pm
@DB:Doubt that'll work. I used to use an Ar a lot too,but i started feeling guilty for getting stuff i shouldn't have.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on May 22, 2009, 04:17:28 pm
I still use an AR a bit, but almost never to get Pokemon. just to explore. mostly, all I use are outfit modifier codes and walk through wall codes.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 22, 2009, 04:18:05 pm
Outfit modifier codes...?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on May 22, 2009, 04:32:27 pm
AR codes in FR/LG. you can turn into the boy from R/S/E, the girl from R/S/E, your rival, or change the color of your clothes. you have to enter the code yourself, it's not included with the AR.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on May 22, 2009, 04:45:27 pm
kewl. I has no AR tho... should invest in one to complete dex... perhaps. only for pkmn like Celebi, Ho-oh, Lugia, Mew, Deoxys, Jirachi, Phione, Manaphy, Darkrai, Shaymin and Arceus... and maybe a Feebas... lol

currently trying for an Adamant/Jolly Larvitar


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on May 22, 2009, 04:50:50 pm
DO NOT USE AN AR CODE TO GET JIRACHI! I SPEAK FROM EXPERIENCE! IF YOU PUT A HACKED JIRACHI IN A PC box, you will be unable to access the PC anymore!
PS: I accidentally left CAPS LOCK on. anyone know an easy way to undo it without retyping my whole post?
EDIT: I know a code that will give you a level 255 Gold Pokeblock. anyone want it? It's really good.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 22, 2009, 05:05:03 pm
Interested in the Gold Block code.....

And don't get an AR,RP. It isn't worth cheating to complete the dex.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on May 22, 2009, 05:09:18 pm
this code is for Emerald version: Name: gold pokeblock. code: 78EB5ACA 41AC86D9 6F7E2414 D188C31A .
the Pokeblock  should appear in your inventory. I used an AR MAX to use the code, but it should work on anything. tell me how it does! (I want to be sure I typed it in right)
after feeding this Pokeblock to a Pokemon, all of their Contest Stats will be Max!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 22, 2009, 05:14:38 pm
Oh...i have a DS AR. to bad..... I wouldn't use an AR code anyway....


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on May 22, 2009, 05:16:13 pm
it's Pokeblock in the GBA games, and Poffin in the new ones, remember?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on May 22, 2009, 08:29:45 pm
DO NOT USE AN AR CODE TO GET JIRACHI! I SPEAK FROM EXPERIENCE! IF YOU PUT A HACKED JIRACHI IN A PC box, you will be unable to access the PC anymore!
PS: I accidentally left CAPS LOCK on. anyone know an easy way to undo it without retyping my whole post?
EDIT: I know a code that will give you a level 255 Gold Pokeblock. anyone want it? It's really good.
... eh. it was just a thought. Probably better off waiting for wi-fi at my house and completing it that way... Is there a legal way to get Jirachi?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on May 22, 2009, 09:15:36 pm
only if someone with a Colosseum Bonus Disk trades you one...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 23, 2009, 12:10:38 pm
What's the OT/ID Num of that? And where did you encounter this 'M type of glitch?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on May 23, 2009, 12:37:27 pm
the glitch was encountered on a Fire Red version,  when I made the mistake of leaving a hacked Jirachi in my PC box. I don't know it's  stats, nor can I check them, for when I open the PC box, the screen goes black and the game freezes. on my Ruby version, I did the same thing, and when I next checked, the PC box was filled with Bad Eggs.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 23, 2009, 12:48:06 pm
They've fixed it in the gen 4 games I think.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on May 23, 2009, 12:53:49 pm
hopefully...
did anyone use my Gold Pokeblock, Level 255 code?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 23, 2009, 12:58:40 pm
Well, just about all(If not all) Jirachi don't have a player-like OT, correct?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on May 23, 2009, 01:05:55 pm
huh?
*avoids one word post*


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 23, 2009, 02:01:15 pm
Like, it wouldn't say something like... "KAZE" or such for a legit Jirachi, correct?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on May 23, 2009, 02:47:42 pm
no, It said my Trainers name, Rocket.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 23, 2009, 03:25:54 pm
No, if it were legit, it wouldn't say the original player who had obtained it's name, would it?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on May 23, 2009, 04:42:47 pm
Who knows.

*Derails discussion*

To celebrate HG/SS, I have begun playing my sister's Silver version from the beginning, b/c Gold is not saving for meh. ^_^

And I'm trying to figure out my Wi-fi problem. ^_^


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 23, 2009, 04:47:26 pm
2. Nice, sounds cool, and you have Gold then? Hmm...

3. Nice =D ... What was the problem in the first place, no place to connect in your house?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on May 23, 2009, 04:51:54 pm
I have Gold, but it doesn't save anymore, hence my playing Silver. We discussed this already. =P

Still working on it. >_>


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 23, 2009, 04:53:58 pm
1. I know, but... I wonder what type of batteries it needs...

2. 'k. If you get Wi-Fi, we need to have a battle or such, and you need to get Bleach: Dark Souls and we need to battle on that. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on May 23, 2009, 05:01:48 pm
Figured out the problem: router doesn't support Wi-fi in the first place... >_>

Meaning I either need to get a Wi-fi USB or a different router. Probably the former... <_<


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 23, 2009, 05:11:03 pm
0_o So, it's not a wireless router then? =/ You may wanna go with a new router, I dunno if they still sell the USB or not...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on May 23, 2009, 05:18:38 pm
It is wireless, it just doesn't support Wi-fi. I've checked the settings. >_>

And it's not up to me to get a new router. But the USB does still exist. So there's hope. ^_^


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 23, 2009, 05:20:14 pm
1. 0_o Can a Laptop get on the internet through the router?

2. Dang... =/ Well, hopefully you can get it then =)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on May 23, 2009, 05:26:44 pm
Both my sister's laptop and my desktop go through that router. Yes, I have a wireless desktop. =P

Hopefully. Maybe. Possibly. IDK. ^_^


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 23, 2009, 05:28:03 pm
1. Then... Why isn't Wi-Fi allowed? =/ I wonder if it is, but it thinks it isn't or something... Either that, or there's some other factor at play.

2. xD


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on May 23, 2009, 06:05:24 pm
I don't believe the router itself supports Wi-fi... =/


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on May 23, 2009, 08:36:57 pm
No, if it were legit, it wouldn't say the original player who had obtained it's name, would it?
I already said it was hacked. the legit Jirachi has no problems with PC boxes.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Tom on May 23, 2009, 10:40:33 pm
1. Then... Why isn't Wi-Fi allowed? =/ I wonder if it is, but it thinks it isn't or something... Either that, or there's some other factor at play.

2. xD
Different security format probably. I had to get a USB because my Linksys router is using WPA instead DS Lite and DS Phat WEP.

And I can snag some legit Jirachis.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on May 23, 2009, 10:49:44 pm
1. Then... Why isn't Wi-Fi allowed? =/ I wonder if it is, but it thinks it isn't or something... Either that, or there's some other factor at play.

2. xD
Different security format probably. I had to get a USB because my Linksys router is using WPA instead DS Lite and DS Phat WEP.
^That... Completely explains all my problems that I've been having. My router is a Liknsys, too... >_<


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 24, 2009, 08:20:55 am
1. Then... Why isn't Wi-Fi allowed? =/ I wonder if it is, but it thinks it isn't or something... Either that, or there's some other factor at play.

2. xD
Different security format probably. I had to get a USB because my Linksys router is using WPA instead DS Lite and DS Phat WEP.
^That... Completely explains all my problems that I've been having. My router is a Liknsys, too... >_<
I think you can change the security on that though ;)

No, if it were legit, it wouldn't say the original player who had obtained it's name, would it?
I already said it was hacked. the legit Jirachi has no problems with PC boxes.
I'm not talking 'bout you, I'm talking 'bout any legit Jirachi, they wouldn't have the original person who obtained it's name, would it?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Tom on May 24, 2009, 01:14:32 pm
1. Then... Why isn't Wi-Fi allowed? =/ I wonder if it is, but it thinks it isn't or something... Either that, or there's some other factor at play.

2. xD
Different security format probably. I had to get a USB because my Linksys router is using WPA instead DS Lite and DS Phat WEP.
^That... Completely explains all my problems that I've been having. My router is a Liknsys, too... >_<
I think you can change the security on that though ;)
You can, but that puts your router at "risk" by lowering highly encrypted security.

No, if it were legit, it wouldn't say the original player who had obtained it's name, would it?
I already said it was hacked. the legit Jirachi has no problems with PC boxes.
I'm not talking 'bout you, I'm talking 'bout any legit Jirachi, they wouldn't have the original person who obtained it's name, would it?
The Colosseum Bonus Disk Jirachi has a OT known as "WISHMKR", ID# 20043. At least, that's the OT for one of mine.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on May 24, 2009, 04:31:09 pm
1. Then... Why isn't Wi-Fi allowed? =/ I wonder if it is, but it thinks it isn't or something... Either that, or there's some other factor at play.

2. xD
Different security format probably. I had to get a USB because my Linksys router is using WPA instead DS Lite and DS Phat WEP.
^That... Completely explains all my problems that I've been having. My router is a Liknsys, too... >_<
I think you can change the security on that though ;)
You can, but that puts your router at "risk" by lowering highly encrypted security.
That, and I have no idea how to do that. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on May 24, 2009, 04:35:06 pm
I have a Timid Starmie with 31 IVs in Speed and Special Attack.

It has 172 HP/120 Sp. Attack/216 Speed

It has the moveset:
~ Surf
~ Thunderbolt
~ Rapid Spin
~ Recover

In other words, a Rapid Spinner.

Is this a good moveset for competitive play, or should I aim for different EVs, moves, etc. for the best Starmie?
If it isn't, is Surf/Ice Beam/Thunderbolt/Psychic a good moveset too with 4 HP/252 Sp. A/252 Speed?

And can I evolve my Staryu now with this moveset?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on May 24, 2009, 04:41:35 pm
it sounds pretty good... although I'd probably wait for him to give the thumbs up...

Which is better for a future Honchcrow:
Murkrow w/ Hasty Nature w/ Insomnia
or
Murkrow w/ Lonely Nature w/ SuperLuck

And what's a good moveset for Typhlosion and Ursaring?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on May 24, 2009, 09:08:22 pm
I have a Timid Starmie with 31 IVs in Speed and Special Attack.

It has 172 HP/120 Sp. Attack/216 Speed

It has the moveset:
~ Surf
~ Thunderbolt
~ Rapid Spin
~ Recover

In other words, a Rapid Spinner.

Is this a good moveset for competitive play, or should I aim for different EVs, moves, etc. for the best Starmie?
If it isn't, is Surf/Ice Beam/Thunderbolt/Psychic a good moveset too with 4 HP/252 Sp. A/252 Speed?

And can I evolve my Staryu now with this moveset?
http://www.serebii.net/potw-dp/121.shtml
^Check that out.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on May 24, 2009, 10:20:54 pm
I did check that out, but that was made when Garchomp was not classified as Uber, in other words, early D/P play.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 25, 2009, 09:39:55 am
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Since Garchomp has recently found itself bumped up to the Uber tier, this is less of a concern,

;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on May 27, 2009, 01:15:32 pm
does anyone want to make an offer for my 10th anniversary Celebi?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on May 28, 2009, 06:38:23 pm
I believe the method you're referring to has something to do with the shiny patches or something, right?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on May 30, 2009, 10:36:49 pm
that's fine for normal shiny pokemon, but what about legends?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: lionytai on May 30, 2009, 10:39:11 pm
I have no idea about waht you are talking about. Are yuo talking about Diamond pearl? Gold silver? REd green blue? crystal? plantium?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: lionytai on May 30, 2009, 11:00:30 pm
Oh, I see. I must leave because I know nothing

lionytai goes


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on May 31, 2009, 02:25:52 am
And if not, then it just has better graffix and more fun stuff. =P

I know on GBA games it's "Start-Select-A-B" all held at the same time. Not sure about DS, though...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 31, 2009, 09:21:38 am
Start Select L R. All at same time. And by L and R I mean the two shoulder buttons.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on May 31, 2009, 01:21:01 pm
*shudders at thought of Soft Reseting for Legendary Pokemon...*

anywho, as he said, shiny pokemon aren't that important to me. Sure, it'd be nice to see one(and catch it), but I'm not gonna go out of my way to get one...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on May 31, 2009, 01:46:35 pm
About getting Shinies through PokeRadar:
1. Buy A LOT of repels, and I mean A LOT. I recommend Super Repels, as it is worth your money. This will help keep away other wild Pokemon.
2. Use a Super Repel.
3. Use the Pokeradar until you find the desired Pokemon.
4. Go to the patch furthest away from you. The more far away the patch is, the more likely you will find the desired Pokemon.
5. Do this for at least 20 times, but usually, this will take 50+ times.
6. If you see a glowing patch, this patch holds a Shiny Pokemon.
7. Go in the patch, and catch the Pokemon.

This is how I remember it...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 31, 2009, 05:09:01 pm
Yeah, it's reset as in go back to the title screen. It's like pressing the reset button on like a Playstation or an N64 or something.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on May 31, 2009, 05:45:08 pm
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@ZLS:  It's a safe process.  You're not deleting your file.  You know how you fight legendaries, but may make them faint, and then you shut the game off and turn it back on?  This is a faster way to do it. ;)

And more energy-efficient, or at least what I heard...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: lionytai on June 01, 2009, 07:59:36 am
About getting Shinies through PokeRadar:
1. Buy A LOT of repels, and I mean A LOT. I recommend Super Repels, as it is worth your money. This will help keep away other wild Pokemon.
2. Use a Super Repel.
3. Use the Pokeradar until you find the desired Pokemon.
4. Go to the patch furthest away from you. The more far away the patch is, the more likely you will find the desired Pokemon.
5. Do this for at least 20 times, but usually, this will take 50+ times.
6. If you see a glowing patch, this patch holds a Shiny Pokemon.
7. Go in the patch, and catch the Pokemon.

This is how I remember it...
sounds interesting.....


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on June 01, 2009, 02:36:42 pm
*sigh*....I've been bored with pokemon lately. Wish that HG/SS would come out soon...

BTW,apparently there is a possibility of "action" being added:

http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Masuda_considering_adding_action_to_series


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on June 01, 2009, 02:41:47 pm
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@Blade:  They're called trigger buttons. ;) 

@ZLS:  It's a safe process.  You're not deleting your file.  You know how you fight legendaries, but may make them faint, and then you shut the game off and turn it back on?  This is a faster way to do it. ;)
What I meant was that I'm shuddering at the thought of how many times I'd have to reset for a Shiny Legendary... what's the probability again? like 1 in 8000+? That would take AGES...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on June 01, 2009, 02:50:48 pm
1/8192

If you get a Pokemon off the GTS, and breed it, there will be a 1/2000 chance that you will hatch a Shiny.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on June 01, 2009, 03:14:32 pm
ZLS: I've heard 3 days sometimes. =P

I also have yet to try the E4. Gonna EV train my team first. Which takes a good chunk of time. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 01, 2009, 03:20:26 pm
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@ddude:  Pfft.  I haven't even beaten the Elite Four yet. :P  

I heard about that, but he may rather be mentioning a spin-off instead.  Although, I am bothered that we haven't seen any battle screenshots or footage, but I'm not worried about it.  

@ZLS:  Nah, I've heard of people doing it in a sliver of that time.  

@BT:  Where'd you hear that? ???
I've heard it too, on SPPf. You get a Pokemon from a language not your own, and breed it, and it has a higher chance of being Shiny.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: lionytai on June 03, 2009, 03:32:09 am
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It is.  And you know, they are remaking Gold and Silver versions for the DS. ::)
Really?
I don't have a DS, so what will make the difference to me?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 03, 2009, 09:30:05 am
Massively updated graphics, starters following you, all the updates since the third gen like Natures and abilities and updated IV system, brand new Pokemon, the list goes on and on.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on June 03, 2009, 04:55:44 pm
About your Battle Tower loss, despite being posted more than a month ago:

Assuming that your Electivire is an Adamant, 252 Attack EVs, with 31 IVs, and holding a Life Orb, Blissey will survive it.
Even if Blissey has 0 HP IVs and 252 EVs in HP and 252 EVs in Defense and 31 IVs, it will only do less that 95% damage.
Unless you were lucky to get a critical hit, then things are a different story.

The Dewgong incident was just pure hax. Maybe Smogon should bump it to an upper tier despite being inferior to Walrein...  XD



Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on June 03, 2009, 07:04:10 pm
Of course, Ninjask is quick a dying (45 Def. and 50 or 55 Sp. D if I'm correct). However, I am actually considering to use him in my Wi-Fi team. If I do, my moveset will be:
- X-Scissor
- Substitute
- Swords Dance
- Baton Pass
252 HP/176 Atck/80 Speed

Or I will go with Umbreon and set up a nasty combination.

Oh, and I just though up of a devious plan that involves a forgotten water type, so I guess I will PM him and receive his recommendations.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on June 03, 2009, 08:29:35 pm
Well, Ub3r tier is pretty accurate. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 05, 2009, 04:31:53 pm
First thing I thought was, "Super Smash Pokemon". =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 05, 2009, 04:51:58 pm
Yeah, but the overall premise is similar, correct?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 05, 2009, 07:33:31 pm
You've got a point there. =P

Apparently there's only two attacks per Pokemon though, but you can update the attacks. From what I heard on Serebii of course.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on June 05, 2009, 08:36:29 pm
Uh...dude? What are you TALKING about? I know nothing of this new game you speak of. And MPR was pretty lame,in my opinion. Alsso,Kirby Super Star Ultra was short,but fun because of The Arena.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on June 05, 2009, 08:49:35 pm
*loooks at game,reads info* *unimpressed* The graphics look pretty awful,and i don't really get the purpose of it. Deja vu of Mystery dungeon to me.

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And I HATE the Arena.  I keep trying, bt I can't win it. >__>


I won the first one. There's another after it that is SICK tough.

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You should keep up with Pokemon news more. :P
i don't really keep up with pokemon news-I've been obsessed with Wii Sports Resort and E3 at the moment. And besides,this game doesn't even show up on Wikipedia  ::)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on June 05, 2009, 09:15:45 pm
Ok,

A.i do not have a bad knowledge of games. I happen to have a very good intuition,and i judge games well-okay,maybe i set my expectations too high for wii Music,but i know a good game when i see one. I've returned 2 games in my life. Boom Blox,(overrated,the sequel is a dumb idea),Backyard Baseball. And wiiWare isn't exactly where it's at with games.

B.Jump the gun?!? Whats that supposed to mean? And i do ALL my reaserch on Wiki. I regard it higher than google in most cases.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: lionytai on June 06, 2009, 07:44:55 am
that is just awesome! although i'm sure i won't get it i rather wouldn't. i'd rather but legos.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 06, 2009, 09:27:52 am
He's right about Serebii being better than Wiki. In fact, Wikipedia'd probably be at the bottom between Serebii, Bulbapedia, and Google. Google because you can quickly find new stuff. Serebii because you get news and tons of info. Bulbapedia because it's dedicated to Pokemon info and can be updated instantly.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on June 06, 2009, 10:19:47 am
He's right about Serebii being better than Wiki. In fact, Wikipedia'd probably be at the bottom between Serebii, Bulbapedia, and Google. Google because you can quickly find new stuff. Serebii because you get news and tons of info. Bulbapedia because it's dedicated to Pokemon info and can be updated instantly.

Agreed. If you Wikipedia Pokemon, your going to get info on Pokemon in general, not game info. Bulbapedia contains that kind of stuff, but Serebii is WAY more useful than Bulbapedia, but that doesn't make it a bad source. Google is OKAY, but chances are that it will lead you to Serebii or Bulbapedia.

I also know a few sites that contain useful things:
Walkthroughs- http://www.psypokes.com (http://www.psypokes.com)
Pokedex- Uh, Serebii, but http://www.psypokes.com (http://www.psypokes.com) includes In-game Pokemon cries, as well as a Guide to breeding for egg moves.
IV/DV calculator- http://www.metalkid.info/pokemon/OnlineProgram/Calculators/IV.aspx (http://www.metalkid.info/pokemon/OnlineProgram/Calculators/IV.aspx) has an advanced Calculator, since it tells you the possible IVs of the Pokemon, rather than give you the chances that it has this certain IV, unlike Serebii.

EDIT: How'd I get Spam Check??


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on June 06, 2009, 10:38:42 am
EDIT: How'd I get Spam Check??
It happens to me too. IT involves possting urls....

I'm setting my expectaitions too high because i do not buy just any game. I spend WEEKS looking at reviews before i play it. Tes,i know wiiWare isn't supposed to be SPECTACULAR games,but they could at least put some more effort into it. And look,dude,Graphics are big for telling how a game is. You can't play the game if you're too busy puking at how the animation is ::) I do admit you probably have me beat on all else though. Although i could have phrased how i use Wikipedia a little bit more clearly. I do all my NON-POKEMON research there. I do pokemon research on Bulbapedia. But if you think Serbii is SOOO great,I'll try it. And i edit Wiki fairly often,I'm pretty sure i don't fall under the category of N00B.



Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 06, 2009, 06:49:18 pm
Whoa, big post.

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Heck, give me an 8-bit game, so long as it has good plotline and functionality.
Agree with you there, and one WiiWare 8-bit game I'd like to play, actually, is Megaman 9, which goes back to it's roots, which includes 8-bit graphics.

But really, how'd we get this far from the announcement of an epic Pokemon battle game that looks awesome, but has cel-shaded Mii-like graphics? 0_o


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on June 06, 2009, 09:10:38 pm
Ok seriously,are you trying to use your debating skills to make this hard for me? If so,mission accomplished. I would respond,but you'll just find SOME WAY to win this arguement. Let me just comment about a few of your points-

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So you're saying that as long as a game has good graphics, the plotline and functionality of the game don't matter?  You're saying that nothing else matters except how good the graphics are, and if they suck, then it's bad?  Entire brands and franchises have tried to use that mindset in making their games, and have crashed and burned horribly.  And honestly, that's to say that all games before the games of today sucked, because their graphics are nothing compared to today's.  Heck, give me an 8-bit game, so long as it has good plotline and functionality.  I couldn't care less about how a game looks.  That's an aesthetic part of the game.  It's not as important.  It's like saying that there are some really nice people in the world, but if they're ugly, you wouldn't date them.  It's a bad mindset to use.
I am in no way saying that the graphics are the only important thing. I am just simply expressing my opinion that a game is made better when it has graphics that are lifelike. In fact,i love a game with a good plot. Look at Paper Mario. That game had subpar graphics,and i loved it.

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*Sigh*...Because ddude started dissing this new game, as well as Nintendo and WiiWare titles in general.
I did NOT diss this game. I just siad it didn't make much of a first impression on me.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: lionytai on June 06, 2009, 09:13:50 pm
He's right about Serebii being better than Wiki. In fact, Wikipedia'd probably be at the bottom between Serebii, Bulbapedia, and Google. Google because you can quickly find new stuff. Serebii because you get news and tons of info. Bulbapedia because it's dedicated to Pokemon info and can be updated instantly.
Wikipedia has info abotu it? that is a bit.. strange.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: lionytai on June 06, 2009, 10:48:49 pm
pokemon wiiware.. i wonder what will happen when you play the game....


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on June 06, 2009, 10:55:25 pm
*Derails discussion briefly*

I just learned that "Serebii" is "Celebi" in Japanese. =O


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: lionytai on June 06, 2009, 10:56:18 pm
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...

What they described it to be?  I don't see what else it could be.
Similar to the gameboys? But will Wii fit better?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on June 06, 2009, 11:31:05 pm
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............................. ..........

o_______O  

A little late, don't you think? :P  I mean, if you check Serebii's site, he's got pictures of Celebi everywhere and everything. ::)  
Yeah, but I never made the connection until I started searching for the Japanese names of the starters and Legendaries and found it. =P

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For those who don't know, Torterra's Japanese name is Dotaitos.  I remember one time on SerebiiForums (back when we only knew Japanese names for fourth generation Pokemon) when someone said "I'm going to have Doritos on my team."  I responded saying "Well I'll have Fritos then. :P "  

;D
XD XD XD


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: lionytai on June 07, 2009, 12:39:40 am
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Umm, lionytai?  I don't get what you're talking about. 


I mean how does the game work in the Wii?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on June 07, 2009, 01:44:56 am
You download it from the Wii store, then play it from the start menu, like the other WiiWare games. ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: lionytai on June 07, 2009, 01:45:56 am
i mean what is it like?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on June 07, 2009, 01:47:02 am
You mean gameplay? We don't know. We've only seen screenshots. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: lionytai on June 07, 2009, 01:49:05 am
Yes, i mean what you do in the game


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 07, 2009, 10:16:42 am
*Sighs* Did you read any of my posts? I kinda summed it up as a 3D Super Smash Bros game with Pokemon with only two attacks, where you have to faint Pokemon by attacking them. And he also pointed out it's much like the Anime's battles.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on June 07, 2009, 10:30:29 am
Apparently HG/SS come with some sort of seperate pedometer yyou can transfer Pokemon to......


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 07, 2009, 10:35:20 am
I saw, looks kinda cool actually. And since we should hopefully be getting more details about HGSS this week... ^^


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on June 07, 2009, 10:37:26 am
Yayz! More HG/SS details!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 07, 2009, 10:38:27 am
Well, as long as CoroCoro has stuff about it... =/


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on June 07, 2009, 10:39:49 am
Oh. BTW,when are you adding the next segment to ya Pokemon epic? ANd are all Pokemon RPGs going to be part of the RPGM forum,or will we have ne here?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 07, 2009, 10:49:11 am
1. Eventually.

2. Well I only have plans myself for the one on RPGM, and that's staying there because of all the stuff it has that people probably wouldn't like here, like a topic for each route/city, a forum for each region... But I myself won't be making any here really, or at least not the huge one I had been talking about.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 07, 2009, 01:53:57 pm
Oh, I know that, but CoroCoro is the main source, like how they showed the pictures of Slowpoke Well and introduced Crystal's new look(I still don't think it's an entirely new character. Leaf wasn't.).

But that does look pretty interesting.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 07, 2009, 02:33:11 pm
The videogames don't even name the characters, except some default names, though technically that's changed recently, though because of that they've done away with the game version names for the characters... =/


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 07, 2009, 03:14:38 pm
Leaf is still only technically a fan name though. Though, since the character's supposed to be like Lucas/Dawn in D/P/Pt... This might actually gain a new name. Though, I kinda liked it when the game characters had the name of versions and such, but it seems Nintendo likes to actually name the chars now... Either that, or it's just because they're actually characters...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 07, 2009, 03:28:59 pm
Soul is only a fan-name last I checked. I don't recall anything saying her name was officially Soul ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 07, 2009, 03:34:24 pm
But really, on that issue, we should probably wait for new info, but I'm still gonna call her Crystal unless I find a good reason for why she should share a name with Silver, the rival.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 07, 2009, 05:18:09 pm
SoulSilver is what I meant. ;)

You've got me there, though the basic plot is somewhat the same. Plus until the third gen, the names were all based off the version titles. Why they changed it I don't know, but... If we're going off the latest trend, the name won't be Soul, and will be something random, like Mary or something. >>


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on June 07, 2009, 05:31:20 pm
I could actually see her being called Mary. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 07, 2009, 05:34:41 pm
You're right actually... The only stopping them from doing so is the fact that there's already a character named Mary as part of the storyline, though they could make a nod to the anime and call her Maria, which is one letter off from the Anime's version of Crystal/Kris. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on June 07, 2009, 05:57:08 pm
Kris was in the anime?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 07, 2009, 05:58:33 pm
Under the name Marina. One of her major appearances was in the Raikou special.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on June 07, 2009, 06:22:18 pm
Oh. Haven't seen that one. ::)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 07, 2009, 06:32:01 pm
She's been in a few other episodes, but that was one of the most major ones.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on June 07, 2009, 07:07:12 pm
*Is watching R:LoT now*


/Edit: Prof. Elm = Uesugi-hakase -_-


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on June 07, 2009, 08:13:23 pm
It's the Raikou special. ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on June 07, 2009, 08:39:52 pm
What is the MM, again?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on June 07, 2009, 08:43:01 pm
When you get another Pokemon off the GTS, and breed it, the offspring has a higher chance of being shiny.
Rather than the usual 1/8192 chance, the Masuda Method is now 1/2000.

The Pokeradar Chaining Method is more efficient in my opinion.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on June 07, 2009, 08:55:43 pm
Which might be better on a team; Drifblim or Paraflinch-Togekiss? Raichu or Electivire?

Team around it would be:
Empoleon
Torterra
Infernape
Weavile


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on June 07, 2009, 09:01:06 pm
Para-Flinch Togekiss > Drifblim
Electivire > Raichu

 ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on June 07, 2009, 09:08:59 pm
That's what I'd been thinking.

Changing team lineup~

R:LoT is good, BTW. ^_^


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on June 07, 2009, 09:12:09 pm
Hey, what are your favorite 3 (non-Legendary) Pokemon?  (I need to know for a plot point in "Ray of Hope".)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on June 07, 2009, 09:32:35 pm
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@flipz:  Hmm...I have to think about that.  I know Electivire is one.  Gallade is also a good one.  For the last, I would probably say...hmm...I have to think about the last one.  What are you planning for them?  Also, do you play Pokemon?

You'd summon them using the Great Controller for an epic battle against the main villians, who have summoned several powerful bosses from other games (specifically Kraid from Metroid, Rayquaza from Pokemon/Super Smash Bros Brawl, and...*sorry, I can't remember what the last one was.  I'll have to check my notes).  Funnily enough, Blade also chose Electivire...but hey, since you're working together that means Jas won't have to draw as many Pokemon...which means it'll be easier for him and he'll be able to finish sooner.

I don't really play Pokemon; most of my Pokemon knowledge is limited to Super Smash Bros Brawl (which explains why Lucario, Pikachu, and Ivysaur are currently my favorite 3).  I'm not really that "in" to the concept of most Pokemon games (though Collisseum was and still is quite tempting); I just find certain Pokemon cute or cool-looking.  Which is why I don't like Giratina.  Because he is just plain ugly.[/brutalbutnecessaryhonesty]


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: lionytai on June 08, 2009, 04:32:02 am
*Sighs* Did you read any of my posts?

Sorry, not a very big pokemon fan ,at least not larger than LEGO or Scooby Doo. Plus i don't have time.

I just find certain Pokemon cute or cool-looking.  Which is why I don't like Giratina.  Because he is just plain ugly.

Only a few? A lot are cute though, lik
e Pikachu and Jigglypuff.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 08, 2009, 10:07:31 am
He's ugly, but in his Origin forme he's just plain epic. ^^

Well, I don't really think the PokeWalker itself will push up the price any more than the Wireless Adapter did Fr/Lg's price, and the IR tech has already been used in Pokemon games before(Didn't the original G/S games use it for Mystery gift, or am I mixing it up with TCG?), though since it's built into the game card... Hmm...

And where's the thing about it being IR?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 08, 2009, 12:15:28 pm
1. Hmm. Wonder why it hasn't spread elsewhere yet... And oh, I thought it was in the game itself, but I would've known that, had I actually had one. =P

2. True, but the Wireless Adapter had more use than in just one game ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on June 08, 2009, 05:21:29 pm
do you know what regions are gonna be in HGSS? Like will there be both Kanto and Johto(like the original) and a Battle Frontier? Because if there is all three of those, and the PokeWalk, and the IR tech, then this could be a lot of money...

Oh, and if anyone was wondering, my fav pokemon are Porygon-Z, Eevee, and Tyranitar. Eletivire, Gallade, the eeveelutions and Metagross come close afterwards.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 08, 2009, 05:29:27 pm
The number of regions in the game wouldn't increase the price unless it needed multiple game cards somehow(... That could happen actually, except it won't because it'd need to be DSi exclusive in that case.), or such, since the only thing that multiple regions would need is space for data on the game card ;) Though, PokeWalker and the IR tech may run the price up, but I hope not, or at least not too much... D=

True... I just hope it's not too much if it does up the price, otherwise, many people may not be able to afford this =/


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on June 09, 2009, 03:32:02 pm
*Has been completely hooked on Pokemon Special for the past day*


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on June 09, 2009, 10:02:01 pm
And, I just finished EV training a Sneasel that I started, like, 2 months ago. =P

Maybe I'll do Elekid next...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on June 10, 2009, 10:17:25 am
=O

2 months? you probably doesn't play as much as me... I EV trained my Scisor in 2 afternoons...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on June 10, 2009, 10:51:12 am
That's more than likely true. Why do you think I said it'd take me forever to EV train my team? =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on June 10, 2009, 11:22:55 am
...

I've put ~170 hours onto Plat so far... (only like 455 hours off my emerald version...)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on June 10, 2009, 11:30:29 am
I'm up to 321:43 on Pearl. Haven't played Plat in a bit... =/


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 10, 2009, 04:21:39 pm
=O =O =O =O

This is going to be an epicly amazing game.

Is there any way that the Rayquaza event could be unlocked via having the GBA Kyogre/Groudon duo, or one of the two from the GBA? Because while I can easily get Groudon via Soul Silver(Wonder why it's Soul Silver 'stead of HG? Ah well), I'd need to somehow find someone with HG to get the Kyogre. Also, Serebii updated saying that it's said on other forums that if you transfer the Arceus from the movie to HG/SS, it'll unlock an event that'll allow you to get either Giratina, Palkia, or Dialga at level one. Not sure about it though.

This new info sounds epic though. =D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on June 10, 2009, 04:37:03 pm
It's obviously so you can get both a legendary Fire/Ground and a Water type. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on June 10, 2009, 06:11:41 pm
=O =O Epic!

I prefered Groudon(although I got emerald, so I got of those beasts), but his moveset is terrible(the one that he learns at least, excluding TMs and Move Tutors...).
I'll be getting SS as well, so it won't really matter. Do you think HGSS will have a Pal Park or will you have to import to DPPt then trade(that would be dumb... but oh well...)
And as a note of where these events could be: He already talked about a possible Orange League(or whatever it's called). Maybe after you beat the E4 you could have access to Kanto and Orange[/unlikelyness]

Hopefully if there's an Arceus event it'll be one you can get over wi-fi(which I'll hopefully have by the time SS arrives).


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 10, 2009, 06:21:42 pm
Well as the rumour says, it's apparently the movie Arceus, so unless then spontaneously decide to hold the Pokemon giveaways over Wi-Fi instead of at a TRU or something... =/

True. We could loan each other our Pokemon so we can get the Rayquaza, and then transfer our other respective Pokemon from our D/P/Pt games if we can. =P(My combo would be the only ones with trouble, since currently I only have one DS, and can't trade amongst my own games, minus the GBA ones, as I can pal park those in Diamond and Plat...)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on June 10, 2009, 06:30:44 pm
...aww... well, Arceus isn't that great anyways...

@Blade: you didn't clone Groudon, Kyogre and Rayquaza? (I can import a Kyogre or trade from Plat...)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 10, 2009, 06:41:32 pm
Yeah, I did, but then I released the clones and never cloned them before migrating them to Diamond. =P I'm working my way through the GBA games again though...

And he is, he has the highest amount of total base stats ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on June 11, 2009, 07:27:40 am
I still say Arceus isn't great(I'd like to have him, but he's not the best IMO).
120 isn't a spectacular base stat, although 6 of them are nice, but still, with a team of six, I think it would be easy to counter it once you know the type or it(plus, when he's a different type he has no item to use).

and can you trick Arceus(like steal a fist plate and give him a iron ball etc, then hit him hard with a fighting move?)

Shaymin-S is a pokemon that I would like, however...

EDIT: the box cover art looks nice(it's at SPP(what does that stand for BTW?).


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 11, 2009, 08:19:58 am
But with his base stats and move pool, he's beyond Uber. =P Plus the fact that you can change his type at will as long as you're not in battle...

ZLS: While he could have a situation like that, there's the fact that I'm almost positive that he can learn any element of move, so...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on June 11, 2009, 08:48:33 am
okay, so he's strong. but IMO he's not the greatest.

Porygon-Z level 70 with Timid Nature
-Should I give him Dark Pulse or not?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on June 11, 2009, 01:42:32 pm
=O

*Wants Jirachi*

Yeah, Johto seems like the meeting place for legends. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on June 11, 2009, 01:53:31 pm
120 is good (I guess you could say great), but compared to other pokemon that have higher stats(like Blissey's 255HP, Deoxys-A Atk stat, Bastiodon's Def, Porygon-Z's SpAtk, etc) 120 isn't really all that high. However, having all 6 be that is obviously a better trade off. However, I still don't like him.

And Nintendo seems to be on a Legendary spree. It's actually quite frightining(sp?), but after the HGSS release I think Uber tier will recieve a lot more battling within it.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on June 11, 2009, 02:24:00 pm
Yeah, legendaries are everywhere.
DPPt went overbored by a lot. I mean: Uxie, Mesprit, Azelf, Dialga, Palkia, Regigigas, Heatran, Giratina, Cresselia, Darkrai, Shaymin, Shaymin-S, Arceus, plus Rotom(if you count him)(and his five other forms), then the 3 birds... (I guess those were the 18 you were talking about...)

If in HGSS Lati@s are roaming, then if you still have the Marking map you could enjoy having a bunch of roamers again(if they let Cresselia into that game, as well as the dogs, Lati@s and the birds)... 9 roamers...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on June 11, 2009, 02:29:27 pm
Means more Ub3r tier battles, right?

The dogs are a given to roam. Lati@s is a possibility, but I'm not sure about the birds. I'm fairly sure they won't put Cresselia into HGSS, though.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on June 11, 2009, 04:39:11 pm
Oh, and I reset my Emerald version today, and I got a female Lax Mudkip. For some reason, I had to name it "Diskeh" after "Disky"  :P. Don't ask why.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on June 11, 2009, 05:33:01 pm
@B~T: lol

@Longname: well, 8 roamers...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on June 11, 2009, 06:16:12 pm
I even got permission from Disky XD.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on June 11, 2009, 06:38:46 pm
I just found out I haven't touched my Plat game since April 18. =O


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on June 12, 2009, 07:19:47 am
right, Rotom isn't legendary(even though there's only one...) some people believe he is, while others don't.

...but no one liked the Pokedex method. roaming was way easier. I mean, by importing 4 Master Balls I caught Mesprit and the birds in 10 minutes... and which part of pokemon happens 3 years later?(is it Kanto and Hoenn which happen at the same time, Johto and Sinnoh that happen three years later?). I was thinking of the birds being in Kanto for an after E4 Kanto tour. And yeah, I don't know why I mentioned Cresselia... and if the Lati@s are divided I want... Latias(just cause I got her first).



Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 12, 2009, 12:48:01 pm
*Looks at further new scans and the further new info* I don't think I'll be taking SS out of my DS after I get it at this rate. *Sees Pokedex* *Jaw drops*

Status Screen looks interesting... could have more info, but meh. It's probably just me being used to D/P/Pt's thousands of tabs for the status screen =P *Sees Ruins of Alph back epicly and cheers* And Steelix doesn't look half bad actually. *Wonders what that gate connects with, and what route that Wobbufett pic is on* Funny, weren't we just talking 'bout wobbu? =P Silver's in-battle sprite looks epic. Gold in Goldenrod with a Cyndaquil still is kinda troubling, but then again, there is walk through walls.... =P ... Whoa, Slowpoke Well's interior looks epic =O ... Funny though, wasn't there a breakable rock where that huge boulder is in GSC? Ilex forest... isn't dark. =| *Wonders what that route with Pichu is*

.... Oh yes, Wi-fi's officially confirmed to be in, though everyone knew it'd be in since it seems like Wi-Fi was made for Pokemon games ^^


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 12, 2009, 01:14:30 pm
The Touchscreen stuff is awesome, that's what it is ^^ For example, in the pack, you can select items from the bottom screen, while the upper screen shows art of the trainer with the pack it seems.

Draco Meteor on a non dragon type will be interesting...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on June 12, 2009, 02:15:05 pm
'k

About Touch Screen Info: well, it's kinda good an bad. I like navigating with the controls, so hopefully it's not like Phantom Hourglass where all controls are touch screened, cause that makes playing while lying down hard...

Having a pokemon walking behind you might get annoying after a while, although having them get items is cool.

And Jirachi with DM is kinda odd... I guess Jirachi being space related and getting a meteor move is natural, but Draco Meteor isn't that great of a move due to it's ability(although using it then switching out is good...)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 12, 2009, 02:18:26 pm
Well, it'll only be the menu, unlike Ranger. Since it showed the action on the touch screen and the menu on the bottom screen where the Poketch would be on D/P/Pt. We learned that from alst month's scans, and it'll probably be D-pad usable like the battle screen too.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on June 12, 2009, 08:29:37 pm
D=

According to Serebii, I used the power items wrong...

Quote
Instead of just doubling the EVs gained in battle, the Power item will add 4 to it. So if you're battling a Gengar while your Pokémon holds the Power Lens that gives 3 Special Attack EVs, you will earn a massive 7 EVs which means almost 2 Points added, add to that the possibility of PokéRus, the possibilities get much easier.

I thought it was power item = 4 EV each time... D=

Good thing I'm only done with Sneasel and haven't fully started on Chimchar/Elekid.
*Sigh of relief*

I'll comment on news later.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on June 13, 2009, 09:54:38 am
So you earn 14 Special Attack EVs each time.

The formula for EV gain is:

y=k(e+p)

y= Total EVs earned
k= Pokerus value, 1 if the Pokemon has none, 2 if the Pokemon has Pokerus.
e= Effort value the opposing Pokemon gives
p= Power Item, 0 if Pokemon is holding none, p=e if Pokemon is holding Macho Brace, 4 if Pokemon is holding the Power Item    corresponding to the EVs gained from the opposing Pokemon


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on June 13, 2009, 09:56:49 am
EV trainig Post E4 is easy(especially for a physical sweeper that wants a 252/252 spread on Atk and Spe). But I don't know how far you are yet, but if you beat the E4 I would try to get the Power Anklet(for Speed) and battle a guy a Cycling Path/Road who has a Staraptor, Dodrio and Farfethched, which would give 6 Atk EVs and 12 Speed EVs with the PA. And if you have PKRS then it's 12 and 24 I think...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on June 13, 2009, 10:17:36 am
True, EV Training just takes me less than an hour if you have a Power Item as well as the Pokerus.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on June 13, 2009, 02:35:19 pm
Also depends on how the EV spread is(unless you have all of the Power Items, then it doesn't matter...)

Oh, and anyone know a good spot for SpAtk EV training?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on June 13, 2009, 02:54:20 pm
http://mln.smfforfree4.com/index.php/topic,2447.msg99091.html#msg99091 (http://mln.smfforfree4.com/index.php/topic,2447.msg99091.html#msg99091)

This should help you.  ;)

Also, the resort area in D/P helps as well.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on June 13, 2009, 06:42:05 pm
I finally beat my first Frontier Brain-the Hall Matron!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on June 13, 2009, 10:54:55 pm
@B~T: I'm going to add that message to the first post. Thanks for the info. =D

Good luck. I'm going to face the E4 after I do all my own EV training. (On Pearl, so I have access to everything I already got. =D)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on June 14, 2009, 02:11:04 pm
Where's the guy with 3 Staraptors?

Oh, and congrats on getting past the E4(you did it a lot faster than me...) You must have trained prior to the E4, cause when I was preparing to take it on the first time my Pokemon were at level ~50... (now you need to train before redoing the E4 when it goes up in power).

And the Johto League was rediculously low. It made training for high level pokemon hard.

And you'll need more than cash to complete your villa,( although I actually don't know the requirments for it, because GameFaqs was wrong).


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 14, 2009, 02:23:31 pm
Yeah, I've seen how underpowered the Johto gyms were. Wonder if they'll up it for HGSS? Though, my theory is it might've been because of Kanto and the fact that it'd've had to have been 59-90 or so for the Kanto gyms if it had've gone with the current standards... Though a level 100 vs. Level 100 Gold vs. Red battle would be epic.

I may get back to training, but I'll need to run through the Battle Frontier before I do, since I forgot to get the rest of the Power Items the first few times I had BP...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on June 14, 2009, 02:38:15 pm
I've made a competitive Starmie, Scizor, and Dragonite.
I've yet to evolve Staryu though. =P

I also have a Gligar, Yanma, Omanyte (for UU), Bagon, Milotic (I've yet to EV Train), and Larvitar which have good IVs.  

Also, once I get Platinum on my B-Day, I am planning to trade Scizor over to Platinum, since I feel that Bullet Punch Scizor is illegal on my Diamond.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 14, 2009, 02:41:51 pm
Heh, Gallade and two others match up with the ones that'll be on my team eventually. =)

Is working for good IVs a good idea, or should I not focus on it that much? =/


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on June 14, 2009, 02:49:29 pm
@Blade: Focusing on IVs is RECOMMENDED.     
An excerpt on my guide shows how your stats could change with this factored in:     
  ~Adamant Lucario w/ 252 Attack EVs and 0 IVs - 316
  ~Adamant Lucario w/ 252 Attack EVs and 31 IVs - 350
In fact, if a Pokemon had a hindering nature with 31 IVs in the hindered stat, it will be much more powerful than a neutral nature Pokemon with 0 IVs in the stat that were to be hindered. Not saying that you should ignore natures.

And now I have an idea on how underleveled the Johto games are: The E-4 are around on their low 40s.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 14, 2009, 05:32:30 pm
1. Hmm. Okay, I may, but it'll take even longer for the training that way.

2. BP Scizor is only illegal if there's no way to get it in a generation ;)

3. I think I may wait for the tourney 'til HGSS so people without Wi-Fi that may get it in between the tourney can get it and we can get more members =)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 14, 2009, 07:34:33 pm
Well, that's a possibility, but we've only got like 3 or 4 players that do have Wi-Fi right now, including me, you, and BT... And Wi-Fi in general is confirmed for HGSS, it's just if it has the extra DSi settings that's up in the air ;) And if you're wondering how it's confirmed in general, it's on the box. ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on June 15, 2009, 08:26:17 am
IVs are too hard for me... (I'm currently breeding for natures, and EV training, but not IV getting...)

And what's better for a Toxicroak:
-Lonely with Dry Skin or
-Jolly with Anticipation(currently have both of those, which is why I ask. Anticipation isn't great, but Lonely hinders defence...)

Okay, my team that I'm trying to build up will include:
Porygon-Z
Starmie
Dusknoir
Scisor(I need to get a new one tho. Adamant or Jolly?)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 15, 2009, 08:51:05 am
The extra Wi-Fi settings...? You don't know about the extra encryption methods supported by the DSi? Well, they're there, there's more than WEP, but apparently games made before the DSi*Including Plat even though it was only released like a week before the DSi >>* don't support the new encryption methods.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on June 15, 2009, 09:44:14 am
*blinks* I leave for a week and you guys add 5 pages....

Yeah,i feel rippped off about Plat not working with WPA. My dad's computer has WPA,and it's the only one i can get internet through. But it is WPA and was firm about leavving it that way. *Sigh*....well,at least the possiblity of Explorers of the Sky having WPA compatibility might give me some wi-fi pokemon....


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 15, 2009, 09:57:09 am
EotS isn't a mainstream game, and apparently you don't like PMD, so...

Plus, you can't battle others AFAIK, just CPU controlled teams.

*Notices latest Serebii update with the map* *Notices the area to the left of Cianwood* ... Is that what I think it is? If it's what I think it is, this will be even MORE epic than I've been saying it is, and will be the best Pokemon game ever.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on June 15, 2009, 03:23:56 pm
IVs are too hard for me... (I'm currently breeding for natures, and EV training, but not IV getting...)

And what's better for a Toxicroak:
-Lonely with Dry Skin or
-Jolly with Anticipation(currently have both of those, which is why I ask. Anticipation isn't great, but Lonely hinders defence...)

Okay, my team that I'm trying to build up will include:
Porygon-Z
Starmie
Dusknoir
Scisor(I need to get a new one tho. Adamant or Jolly?)

All you need to know about breeding IVs are that IVs are passed down from both parents. And that Defense and HP IVs are harder to pass down.

@Toxicroak - If the Jolly one is Female, then breed it with an Everstone until you get a Jolly one with DRY SKIN. It gives you a way to heal HP from Water attacks as well as Rain. You're even immune to Water attacks.

@Scizor - I personally prefer Adamant, since Scizor's Speed isn't too great. 

And I'm planning on a Blissey, and I have the Pokemon with good IVs for it as well as the right Egg Group, so I'm going to name is "DiskMaster" =P. Hey, it's pink, non?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on June 15, 2009, 06:00:53 pm
@BT: cool. Why would Defence and HP be harder I wonder(and I don't have Wi-Fi, so I can't use that way to do a quick IV check on pokemon...)
and I think both of my Croagunks are males... sadly...

now to find/breed adamant Scisor...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 18, 2009, 09:58:54 am
So, I'm liking HG/SS even more every day. New news about the Pichu/Arceus events. For Pichu, you apparently get NEP after you visit Ilex Forest with the Pikachu Coloured Pichu. And for the Arceus Event, you have to take the event Arceus to... Wait for it... The ruins of Alph. =D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on June 19, 2009, 06:23:37 pm
Not sure if you guys already know this,but:

HG/SS WILL feature Kanto
3 PMD titles will be on Wiiware


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 19, 2009, 06:27:07 pm
1. We all knew this from the start anyway because there's no other way to get to Mount Silver or the Pokemon league, since there's no Pokemon league in Johto. ;)

What I'm intrigued about though... Is that area to the left of Cianwood, and if it's what I think it is, they've already made D/P/Pt mostly obsolete. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on June 19, 2009, 08:43:52 pm
I haz an idea. Every Friday, I will just type up an evaluation of a Pokemon with the Random Number Generator.

Today's Number is 197:
UMBREON!

Type: DARK
Ability: Synchronize - If user gets Burned, Paralyzed, or Poisoned(both forms), the Pokemon who caused the status effect will receive the same status effect the user received. Immunities apply (Ex: A Fire Pokemon burns a Pokemon with Synchronize will not be affected by the burn).

Stats:
HP             95
Attack       65
Defense     110
Sp. Attack  60
Sp. Defense130
Speed        65

Author's Opinion: This is a pretty decent UU Pokemon. In OU, Blissey and Skarmory are one of the few walls that do a better job at doing their purpose. UU is where this thing would do its best. It's movepool is pretty shallow, but it shouldn't make it a bad wall. Now, I don't know much about Umbreon, so the majority of information comes from Smogon.

Recommended Moveset(s):
Nature: Careful
Item: Leftovers/Chople Berry
EVs: 252 HP/92 Sp. Def/164 Speed (If using Taunt)
       252 HP/4 Def/252 Sp. Def (Other moves)
~ Mean Look
~ Baton Pass
~ Wish
~ Taunt/Toxic/Protect
This is one of the best sets Umbreon can have, Mean Look others and Baton Pass to a Sweeper. Taunt prevents Skarmory from setting up on you, so you need the Speed to outrun it.
Toxic is used to stall the opponent, while Protect lets you use Wish efficiently.
Leftovers helps it last longer, but a Chople Berry is helpful for soften Fighting moves.

Nature: Sassy
Item: Leftovers
EVs: 252 HP/200 Atck/56 Sp. Def
~ Curse
~ Baton Pass/Protect
~ Wish
~ Payback

Curse, and use Payback to esure a 100 Base Powered STAB Attack. You may Baton Pass the Stat boosts, or Protect if you want Wish to take effect.

Countering Umbreon:
If Umbreon doesn't have Taunt, then Skarmory can come in and Roar/Whirlwind away Umbreon's setting up capabilities.

Scizor can use U-Turn to nullify Mean Look as well as score super-effective damage.

Sweepers that use Taunt and are faster than Umbreon is trouble for Umbreon. Examples are Gyarados and Tyranitar.

Heracross poses a huge problem, as it has both STAB Bug and Fighting attacks. If Toxic is its only move, then Steel Types are a major problem with it.
*Courtesy of Smogon for the majority of EVs and Moveset and counters
Again, I don't really know Umbreon that well, so I had to use Smogon. However, the Mean Look set was one set that I actually thought up of, and then a little help from Smogon.
(http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr213/B_T_Energized/Pokemon/Umbreon_Sprite.png)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on June 20, 2009, 07:13:27 am
@BT: As he said, nice review, and yeah, keep away for NU, UBER and NFE pokemon... this could possibly help me make a could team. I'm currently thinking of a weather team or field advantage team of some sort... still working on it though.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 20, 2009, 08:51:56 am
Well, not to no avail, since Omi on BZP and I agreed with you on that point essentially. And to your point to me, I guess it could, though I've only seen pics of it... But it does seem intriguing... Wonder what happens after the thing at the end with Arceus...?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on June 20, 2009, 12:45:26 pm
 >:( >:( >:( x Infinity
I deleted my original post, SO I HAVE TO DO IT ALL OVER AGAIN.

The next Pokemon is:
DUSKNOIR!!!

Type: GHOST
Ability: Pressure - Moves that do damage towards the Pokemon lose 2 PP instead of one.
Stats:

HP         45
Atck       100
Def        135
Sp. Atck 65
Sp. Def   135
Speed    45

Author's Opinion: In the 3rd Generation, Dusclops, the Pre-evolution of Dusknoir, was an OU Wall, popular on many teams. In the 4th Gen, the new and improved Dusknoir come back to do the same purpose Dusclops did: WALL and TANK. The Physical/Special Split was kind and unkind at the same time to Dusknoir. The Ghost gained the Elemental Punches at the cost of Shadow Ball, which is now a Special Move.

Recommended Movesets:
Nature: Impish
Item: Leftovers
EVs: 252 HP/28 Atck/228 Def  OR
       252 HP/52 Def/204 Sp. Def
~ Shadow Sneak/Shadow Punch
~ Fire Punch/Thunder Punch
~ Will O Wisp
~ Pain Split

The Walling Set is probably the most common type of Dusknoir you would see in Competitive Battling. Shadow Sneak counteracts his poor Speed, while Shadow Punch is for those battlers who want extra Power. Fire Punch covers Heracross, one of the best counters to Dusknoir, while Thunder Punch covers Gyarados. Pain Split for recovery, and Will O Wisp to soften blows from sweepers like Tyranitar and Weavile, if they switch in on a Will O Wisp and hits.



Nature: Relaxed
Item: Leftovers
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 Sp. Def
~ Trick Room
~ Shadow Punch/Fire Punch/Thunder Punch/Earthquake/Superpower
~ Pain Split
~ Will O Wisp

Dusknoir is one of the best Trick Room users in the game. He's slow and has Base 135 Defenses as well as a respectable 100 Base Attack.

Countering Dusknoir:
Tyranitar and Weavile and other Pursuit users can use Pursuit to torture Dusknoir, as long as they don't switch in on a Will O Wisp.

Heracross can take advantage of Will O Wisp and activate Guts and deal serious damage. Other Guts Pokemon can deal serious damage.

Gyarados can defeat Dusknoir by Dragon Dancing if it doesn't have Thunder Punch.

Taunt can cancel out Will O Wisp and Pain Split, which are essential to any Dusknoir.

Heatran is the big one; he has Flash Fire to cancel out Will O Wisp as well as being able to Wall Dusknoir.

      I know Dusknoir significantly better, so I didn't have to look too much at guides.
(http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr213/B_T_Energized/Pokemon/Dusknoir_Sprite.png)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on June 20, 2009, 04:00:06 pm
I like Dusknoir. His attack got improved, making him able to wall and deal out damage at the same time. What pokemon is a nice pair with Dusknoir?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on June 20, 2009, 04:08:06 pm
You can replace an attacking move with Superpower or Brick Break if you want so you could counter Tyranitar and Weavile. Earthquake if you want Heatran Bye-bye.

Swampert or other Bulky Waters would make Heatran run, while Blissey would work out well. Metagross and Forretress are able to wall Tyranitar and Weavile. Even your own Heatran would make a good support Pokemon.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on June 21, 2009, 09:02:59 am
Quote
@Blade:  I know.  But there's so many others at BZP, SPPf, and even one or two here, who weren't the same.  I explain why it had to be so, people ignore me, and then seem so shocked and overly excited when it's announced.  It makes me feel unnecessary in the community.
No,you're needed,without you there would be no one to disagree with me when i say something stupid. Then i start a debate that i know is doomed but still cling to a glimmer of hope that i may win.

@BT-could you make me a guide for heracross? Or are you not doing requests? Heracross is definitly gonna be in my Johto team,maybe even AFTER i beat the game.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 21, 2009, 09:32:39 am
*Jaw drops* Have, you, uh, seen the latest PotW on Serebii.net? If you do, I'd be amazed, given what review you just asked for =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on June 21, 2009, 10:24:52 am
I just found that, according to Smogon, my entire Plat-planned team is OU, with the exception of Torterra, which is UU. =P

It's also interesting where Serebii and Smogun differ on "recommended movesets."


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on June 21, 2009, 12:41:02 pm
Okay, I know what OU, UU, UN and Uber are, but what is Limbo and Borderline?

and why is Wynaut in uber?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on June 21, 2009, 02:01:09 pm
Limbo - Just think of it as an unofficial tier where people debate where certain Pokemon are placed in the metagame. In other words, Pokemon in Limbo are "undefined", meaning that their tier isn't determined.

Borderline - The Pokemon is too powerful for UU, but not enough power for OU. 

Wynaut is Uber for the same reason as Wobbuffet, it can Encore attacking moves and Counter or Mirror Coat any attack.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 21, 2009, 04:35:10 pm
On Gyara: Yeah, but it is funny how a lot of those pop up right after me or soemone else on here talks about it or so... Happened a few times, once with the Deoxys I traded from Diamond(Thanks again BT! =)). =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on June 21, 2009, 07:00:01 pm
Today's Pokemon is...

ALAKAZAM!!!

Type: PSYCHIC
Ability: Synchronize - If user gets Burned, Paralyzed, or Poisoned(both forms), the Pokemon who caused the status effect will receive the same status effect the user received. Immunities apply (Ex: A Fire Pokemon burns a Pokemon with Synchronize will not be affected by the burn).
          Inner Focus - Prevents Flinching, however not from Focus Punch.
Stats:

HP         55
Atck       50
Def        45
Sp. Atck 135
Sp. Def   85
Speed    110

Author's Opinion: This is the most powerful, non-legendary Pokemon in terms of Special Attack. Powerful Special Attack and Speed makes this one of the best Sweepers. It lost the elemental punches in the last generation, but it has some new toys to play around with, like Focus Blast and Shadow Ball as well as Energy Ball and Grass Knot. However, its poor defenses leave it prone for heavy damage with even the weakest attacks.

Recommended Movesets:
Nature: Timid/Modest
Item: Choice Specs
Ability: Synchronize
EVs: 4 HP/252 Sp. Atck/252 Speed
~ Psychic
~ Focus Blast
~ Shadow Ball/Signal Beam
~ Hidden Power(FIRE)/Trick

With Choice Specs, this set can sweep many Pokemon quite effectively. Focus Blasy is a necessity, otherwise Tyranitar and Weavile will completely destroy you. Tyranitar and Weavile are able to rip this set into pieces, so Trick is an option to lock them into one attack, or you could use Signal Beam for some effective damage (It can OHKO Weavile). Hidden Power Fire can OHKO Scizor on the switch. Metagross will also have a nice dent, but beware switching out, since the mentioned Pokemon can use Pursuit for an easy OHKO. Timid outspeeds most Pokemon, but Modest for more power is Okay too.  


Nature: Timid/Modest
Item: Life Orb
Ability: Synchronize
EVs: 4 HP/252 Sp. Atck/252 Speed
~ Calm Mind
~ Psychic
~ Focus Blast
~ Hidden Power(FIRE)/ Signal Beam/Shadow Ball

Simple. Calm Mind up, and sweep.

Countering Alakazam:
Tyranitar and Weavile and other Pursuit users can use Pursuit  and score an easy KO on Alakazam.

Dugtrio can trap Alakazam and use Sucker Punch and score a KO.

Steel types can Wall it, but beware of Focus Blast. Blissey also applies to this.

Paralysis can greatly hinder Alakazam, but tread carefully as most, if not all, variants of Alakazam have Synchronize.

(http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr213/B_T_Energized/Pokemon/Alakazam_Sprite.png)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on June 21, 2009, 08:09:40 pm
Nice guide B~T.....but i think your definition of Synchronize at the top was confused with Pressure. And when i get back on Pokemon(been kinda bored with it lately,too many new Mario games coming up and beat most of Plat) Alakazam is a definite maybe on my team. The HP problem with it alwats kinda annoyed me though......


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on June 21, 2009, 08:32:17 pm
@DarthT - Thanks for pointing that out. I copied off Dusknoir. >_>



Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on June 21, 2009, 09:17:01 pm
2 prints, Battle Hall and Battle Castle. One day i just decided i didn't feel like there was any challenge in the game anymore (I know there are 3 other prints,but i was revamping my team,kinda hard to battle those guys with level 20s) and quit. But don't worry, i still love Pokemon. I'm just trying to revamp my training style to be more statistical. Before i used gut instinct,if a POkemon of my was struggling,i'd fix it, now i'm trying to learn to make use of EVs,IVs, Natures,etc-which i used to ignore,i didn't even know about E/I Vs uuntil a month ago.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on June 22, 2009, 07:48:39 am
@Anyone: where can I find Choice Specs? (the other Choice items are in the Battle Frontier, but I didn't see specs there...)

@BT: thanks for the Limbo, BL and Wynaut thing...

As for Wobbufett: I hate that pokemon. It's not good, and IMO is somewhat easy to beat, if you baton passed into it. In the actual game none of the trainers (specifically the lady with green hair and a Blissey) use it properly. I'm sure this is a different story in wi-fi battles, but since I don't have wi-fi or an AR, or any Gamecube Games, I don't have many Uber pokemon, so entering would not be likely.

I currently have one print(Castle, silver)... Still working on Battle Hall(for some reason I cannot beat that one. Currently trying to find a good pokemon to use there(possibly my Porygon-Z)). I'm gonna go in a clockwise order when I do decide to challenge for prints, and I hope to have at least the silver prints from each place before HGSS gets here...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 22, 2009, 09:01:55 am
Battle Hall's the one Pokemon only one right? I crushed Silver on that a few times with my In-game team. =P I've really gotta get training on my Competitive team >_<


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on June 22, 2009, 09:33:28 am
@Yup Blade,its the one-Pokemon one. My Electivire took out Argenta's (is that her name?) Registeel in three turns. Also,as for competitive battling,that's the thing i forgot to mention in my post. I never battled competitivly much,now,as HG/SS are likely to let me acess wi-fi,i need to take competitive battling seriously. Which includes dumping my style of only teaching my Pokemon attack moves and ditching moves like Taunt.



Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on June 22, 2009, 09:36:44 am
Yeah, 1 pokemon. First time I did that I beat all ten levels of rock(with a grass pokemon) and then discovered there were only ten levels and I should have gone with harder stuff first... Plus there was a Slowbro that knew Flamethrower(or some water pokeomn with a fire move that destroyed Leafeon...)

Only non attack moves I teach my pokemon are stat boosting and recovery and status inducing... okay that's a lot, but I don't use Taunt and Torment much, but I can see their uses(although having a sweeping team with subpar defences does not like taunting opponents...)
I need to get physical and special walls trained for my team... and I'm gonna avoid Blissey entirely...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 22, 2009, 09:39:32 am
Yeah, those tend to decimate me quickly... What's a strong Pokemon with little to no weaknesses? =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on June 22, 2009, 09:44:14 am
Blissey? I guess.....but i always have a tough fighting-type,like Lucario and Infernape,so i decimate THEM pretty quickly......

Well,we know Kanto is in HG/SS....but i wonder how much time you spend there BEFORE battling the elite four? A few Kanto pokemon might not be so bad.....


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 22, 2009, 10:14:46 am
Probably the same amount of time as in the originals... Maybe a little more, but we probably won't be able to get Pokemon outside of the new Johto dex, like we couldn't in FR/LG... R/S/E(Okay, maybe not R/S/E... I forget if you could get Non-ND Pokemon before the ND in Emerald.)... D/P/Pt... Though technically you could get Non National Dex Pokemon in D/P/Pt if you traded I guess... But they didn't appear in the wild naturally without the National Dex.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on June 22, 2009, 10:21:45 am
*shrugs* I guess so....

@Anyone-who do you think the strongest non-legendary fire type is? A lot of people say Charizard,but......well,i find Charizard a litlle lackluster.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 22, 2009, 10:27:54 am
Infernape. =P There's probably stronger, but I like Infernape. Plus, anyone who looks like SS4 Goku is fine by me. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on June 22, 2009, 10:31:04 am
I was a Blazekin fan back in the R/S/E days. Heck,i was 4 when they started,my first game was Ruby. I remember spazzing out because i didn't know how to get out of Littleroot town at the start =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 22, 2009, 10:43:40 am
xD Nice.

Actually, come to think about it, Sapphire was technically one of my first mainstream games(I had Stadium for a while before that, but Sapphire/FireRed were the first I actually got for my then new GBA SP, yet Ruby/Sapphire was the first I actually played because I rented it. Sapphire was the one I got further in, so I decided I wanted Sapphire. I'm not fully sure why I chose FireRed over Leafgreen though. =P)... But it was pretty cool at the time, but HGSS will blow everything away. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on June 22, 2009, 12:07:41 pm
Infernape is definately one of the strongest and best fire pokemon, however, Magmortar is also pretty strong specially. There aren't actually that many fire pokemon, but the top fire pokemon IMO are:
Infernape, Magmortar, Blaziken and Houndoom... Blaziken is much stronger than Infernape, but his speed is pretty bad. Magmortar is a beast in special attacking, but again, speed makes him not great. Houndoom has a nice typing(dark is always a plus for me...).
Charizard can't be used too much due to his 4x weakness to Stealth Rock.

On the subject of starting games, mine was Yellow(as I've said previously). I didn't know that PCs were all connected, so when I put my Butterfree in the PC in Pewter, then went through Mt Moon I didn't know I could take it out in Cerulean(sp?). Red was my next game, and getting infinite Rare Candies was fun(I had a level 90 Butterfree lol).

A strong pokemon with only 1 weakness is: Foretress, Scisor and Electivire(Fire, fire, ground). Foretress is strong defencively, while Scisor and Electivire are both phsyical sweepers(Motor Drive Electivire is pretty fast, and Bullet Punch Technician Scisor is a beast to anything that doesn't resist it(BP goes up to 90 Base Power after STAB and Technician, and Life Orb/Choice Band powers it up even more. One Swords Dance sky rockets its power...)

My upcoming team(still thinking of a few more. Please comment on switches that should be made):
-Scisor
-Porygon-Z
-Breloom/Machamp
-Gyarados/Salamance
-Alakazam
-Bronzong/Dusknoir

Still up in the air. Dynamicpunch No Guard Machamp is nice, especially if Trick Room is in effect, but Poison Heal Breloom is something I'd like to try out. Dusknoir has great defences, but a low HP isn't nice to have. The Gyarados vs Salamance is better defences vs faster and stronger. Salamances 4x ice weakness isn't nice, but neither is a 4x elec weakness...


He said what I was gonna say for the most part...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 22, 2009, 12:13:57 pm
Question; Wouldn't Ice Punch take out Shedinja, who is a Bug/Ghost Pokemon? I thought Ice was Super Effective 'gainst Sheddy.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on June 22, 2009, 12:18:41 pm
Well, Sheddy is Bug Ghost, but Ice is neutral against Bug. I thought for the longest time that Ice was 2x against bug, but its neutral, which is why the common boltbeam combo doesn't scare Sheddy, and also why he can appear in Ubers...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 22, 2009, 12:24:06 pm
*Twitches eye* I see.... What does Ice effect that Fire doesn't? Is it to take out those Pesky Dragons?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on June 22, 2009, 12:35:30 pm
i didn't kno this was a topic. :p

imho the best fire pokémon is arcinine (sry for the spelling error)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on June 22, 2009, 12:46:54 pm
Ice kills ground, dragon and flying, which fire hits for neutral or 0.5 damage only.
Ice and fire both murder grass
Fire beats ice, bug and steel, which ice runs away from...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on June 22, 2009, 01:13:35 pm
it may have been the best in RBY...

but yeah, Infernape basically destroyed every other fire type pokemon's hope of being used, since it's fast and powerful, and can be used physically or specially. If Blaziken recieves a big enough speed boost, then it can compete with Infernape, otherwise nothing else comes close.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on June 22, 2009, 01:16:49 pm
@RP-yeah,Infernape is a good one. And also,Fortress is good,but against a Sweeper with a decent Fire move=buh-bye.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on June 22, 2009, 01:23:18 pm
infernapes are lot more balanced.  i have 1 in my pt, it can't defeat defensive pokemon. arcinine is more balanced.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on June 22, 2009, 02:51:33 pm
I've seen videos on where Fire Fang can get past Wonder Guard Spiritomb and Sableye despite the fact that they don't have any weaknesses.

I have the right Pokemon for breeding for Blissey, but I'm too lazy to do it now.

 


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on June 22, 2009, 03:41:21 pm
B~T, those were hacks, since WG can't be swapped...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 22, 2009, 04:05:11 pm
Yeah, but from the sounds of it, unless the guy using Fire Fang was a hacker as well, it wasn't him who was a hacker, though Fire Fang piercing Wonder Guard when the Pokemon doesn't have any weaknesses is a little suspicious...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on June 22, 2009, 04:56:56 pm
It's a Spiritomb or Sableye WITH Wonder Guard from the start.  ;)

Yes, they were hacks.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 22, 2009, 05:19:58 pm
Were both parties hacked? Or just the one with Sableye/Spiritomb?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on June 22, 2009, 05:22:41 pm
The one with the Sableye/Spiritomb.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on June 22, 2009, 05:29:01 pm
Wonder Guard is a unique ability, so it probably is coded so that only fire, dark etc moves affect the pokemon with WG(the only case is Shed).

Currently breeding for an adamant/jolly shroomish. Is poison Heal better than Effect Spore?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on June 23, 2009, 01:45:37 am
well, I've just started playing Platinum...and I have no dea what to do with my Technical Machines...Also, why can't I use Abra's teleport on the field?  (I just entered the flower town, I already have the first Gym Badge.)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on June 23, 2009, 07:28:28 am
yay! someone else with the game!

yeah. umm, Technical Machines are one use items that teach a pokemon an attack. You can only use each one once, so don't use them randomly.

And Abra's teleport I don't know about...

Yay for getting the first badge. Who'd you start out with, and what pokemon do you have?


and... I bred an Adamant Poison Heal Shroomish!!!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 23, 2009, 09:43:39 am
Have you healed at a Pokemon center? Teleport takes you back to the last Pokemon Center you healed at. ;) Congrats on getting an Abra early on, it's hard to get one with their Teleport.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on June 23, 2009, 11:14:08 am
I myself need to get an Abra... Modest or Timid nature...

and I'm 10 battles away from winning my second print...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on June 23, 2009, 11:25:47 am
Have you healed at a Pokemon center? Teleport takes you back to the last Pokemon Center you healed at. ;) Congrats on getting an Abra early on, it's hard to get one with their Teleport.

Thanks--really, I just got lucky-one of the NPCs wanted to trade me her Abra for a Shinx.

I started out with Turtwig, and now I am past the second gym.  Any tips on hatching the Pokemon Egg I just got?

I'll post my complete list later, I have around 30.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 23, 2009, 01:08:41 pm
Hmm. I remember that NPC now.

And just walk around a lot.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on June 23, 2009, 01:48:53 pm
To hatch eggs faster, you can get a Slugma, as both its abilities hatch eggs faster.

However, you can't obtain it at this point unless you trade with a friend.

So do as Blade said: walk around a lot, preferably the Cycling Road.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on June 23, 2009, 07:36:35 pm
i only need 5 more pokémon untill the i get the nationeldex in pt. where do you find duskclops?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on June 23, 2009, 11:03:53 pm
I wantz Wifi bad... My team is almost done with EV training... =O

Although I need to fix my Weavile's EVs a bit. D=


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on June 24, 2009, 07:20:55 am
aaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnd... I lost to Argenta... to about the most annoying pokemon ever: Shuckle. I was so mad. I would have won, if it weren't for a critical hit from Rollout... I was waiting for the Sand Storm to die down to reduce its SpDef and then destroy it and Shuckle got a critical hit...

and then I went back to try again, and on my 19th battle I met a Heatran that knew Magma Storm, which actually hit...
What's a good moveset for Porygon-Z that I could use in the Battle Hall. atm I'm running
Porygon-Z @ Life Orb
Timid
4HP
252SpAtk
252Speed
~Nasty plot
~Recover
~Discharge
~Tri Attack

Tri Attack is my main attack, and usually deals with everything in one move. Recovery's there to keep me alive in a long battle(like against Argenta), and Nasty Plot is there to boost SpAtk if needed. Discharge is an attack that it learns naturally to cover ghosts, steel and rock types that are unnafected/resist T-Atk.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on June 24, 2009, 09:27:19 am
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@Period:  You know, it's funny.  As a matter of fact, not only are you using the same ideals and language that ZLS used until I persuaded him otherwise, but even more odd is that the same Pokemon is being fought over.  Arcanine is much worse.  Infernape is one of the best sweepers in standard play, and the fact that his physical and special capabilities are both great make him an even greater threat, because that makes him that much more unpredictable.  And honestly, looking for "balanced" stats isn't the thing a competitive battler would do.  If that were the case, Blissey, for example, would NEVER be used, and Pokemon like Arcanine, the likes of UU and NU, would run rampant.  Generally, having one-sided traits is what can make Pokemon so good/popular.  You're factoring in Infernape's Defensive stats.  That's like counting Blissey's Attack, or even its Speed.  Infernape isn't meant to take blows, nor is almost any Sweeper, for that matter.  It's a universal fact.  That's why switch-outs exist.  And hence why residual damage and switch-in hazards are so popular.  And hence why Rapid Spinners are so popular.  It goes on and on.  Defense on him isn't meant to be counted. 

@flipz:  ooh u haz pt :o 

Do you have Wi-Fi?  If so, you can participate in our upcoming Wi-Fi Tournament, which I hope to host with fabulous, wonderous prizes of wonder. :o
.
i kno, but it isn't the best sweeper tbh. for sweeping i use weaviles. they are faster and more powerful (in attack not special attack).

@renegade phantom: that isn't to great... wt if u r against a golem or steelix? i kno u can switch out but i try to keep pokémon more dynamic.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 24, 2009, 09:33:10 am
Weavile's a different type though, and you can have multiple sweepers on a team. >_> Weavile isn't even really the best, as a few things outspeed it IIRC. Plus there's the fact that Infernape learns moves like Flare Blitz and Close Combat, that, when up against a Weavile, if Choice'd would probably outspeed the Weavile, and probably take him out in one hit if it was a Flare Blitz. ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on June 24, 2009, 10:03:49 am
wut everyone else said... and even though Infernape's stats in atk, spatk and speed aren't insanely high, he can choose either atk or spatk, or a mix, making him unpredictable. There;s also flare blitz and close combat which cover a lot, and with mach punch as a priority move he doesn't need to be faster than the opponent. Plus his fighting type allows him to take neutral damage from rock types moves, which is quite useful considering the amount of Stealth Rock users...

and weavile is nice, but as Blade said, typing is different, so the point is moot.

as for if I end up fighting a Golem or Steelix... well, I just have to hope I don't. I won't choose to fight steel, rock or ground types with this current Porygon-Z set in the Battle Hall. When I go in again I'm gonna go:
10 Dragon
10 Grass
Mix (Bug and Poison)
Mix (Fire and Normal)
Mix (Flying and Water)

This way I'll avoid getting high level pokemon as I go in, and I'll hopefully not encounter a Heatran or a strong pokemon... (I hate you Heatran and you Magma Storm... and I hate Shuckle with its defences and powered up critical hitting Rollout... )


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 24, 2009, 10:07:24 am
oh, I see what you did thar.

You're going to fight only certain Pokemon with this setup, and then switch for the final ones, aren't you, hoping that you don't get a Pokemon that could decimate you as the final Argenta fight, correct?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on June 24, 2009, 12:52:57 pm
aaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnd... I lost to Argenta... to about the most annoying pokemon ever: Shuckle. I was so mad. I would have won, if it weren't for a critical hit from Rollout... I was waiting for the Sand Storm to die down to reduce its SpDef and then destroy it and Shuckle got a critical hit...

and then I went back to try again, and on my 19th battle I met a Heatran that knew Magma Storm, which actually hit...
What's a good moveset for Porygon-Z that I could use in the Battle Hall. atm I'm running
Porygon-Z @ Life Orb
Timid
4HP
252SpAtk
252Speed
~Nasty plot
~Recover
~Discharge
~Tri Attack

Tri Attack is my main attack, and usually deals with everything in one move. Recovery's there to keep me alive in a long battle(like against Argenta), and Nasty Plot is there to boost SpAtk if needed. Discharge is an attack that it learns naturally to cover ghosts, steel and rock types that are unnafected/resist T-Atk.

i kno, but it isn't the best sweeper tbh. for sweeping i use weaviles. they are faster and more powerful (in attack not special attack).

@renegade phantom: that isn't to great... wt if u r against a golem or steelix? i kno u can switch out but i try to keep pokémon more dynamic.

@Period - But Porygon-Z can just Nasty Plot up to boost its attack power, and considering Golem and Steelix's Special Defense, they are going to receive a rather huge blow despite their typing.

About Weavile, I can use a Bronzong with Gyro Ball and do massive damage to Weavile even though it is really slow. You do know that Gyro Ball is based on the difference on the opponents speed and your speed, right?

@ZLS - Replace Discharge with Thunderbolt. Recover can be replaced with Ice Beam or Dark Pulse, which can hit Ghosts. Otherwise your Porygon-Z is looking good. I do not have a strategy for Argenta as I do not have Platinum and her Pokemon is random, but use a Pokemon that can hit hard as well as have a variety of moves, such as Electivire(beware Swampert) and Infernape(beware Tentacruel).


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 24, 2009, 12:59:53 pm
I think he means because of the fact that there's no attack moves other than Tri Beam and Discharge, which Discharge can't hit Ground Types.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on June 24, 2009, 01:51:42 pm
@B~T: Yeah, that sounds good. I'll probably go with Ice Beam, since I can import them from my Emerald game, even though Dark Pulse is probably better... Thunderbolt over Discharge is much better, especially since Battle Hall is 1vs1, so it Thunderbolt will hit everything anyways...

oh, I see what you did thar.

You're going to fight only certain Pokemon with this setup, and then switch for the final ones, aren't you, hoping that you don't get a Pokemon that could decimate you as the final Argenta fight, correct?
Probably... although I may switch before starting up again... I'm currently battling with a level 38 Breloom... the pokemon are all ~lv20...
I think he means because of the fact that there's no attack moves other than Tri Beam and Discharge, which Discharge can't hit Ground Types.
Probably... but with this set I'm only battling specefic pokemon and one random... on a team I'll have switches that I can use to lure certain pokemon and revenge kill...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on June 24, 2009, 02:15:51 pm
@blade: weavile is a faster than infernape tho. but i do agree infernape is the best fire sweeper.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 24, 2009, 02:18:20 pm
Even with Choice Band/whatever? ;) And while if you agree about that, why do you say Arcanine's better? ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on June 24, 2009, 05:37:16 pm
cool, thanks. and is this a good moveset for Breloom:

Breloom @ Toxic Orb
Adamant Nature w/ Poison Heal
4 HP
252 Atk
252 Speed

~Mach Punch
~Spore
~Facade
~Stone Edge/Seed Bomb

Not sure about the EVs. 252 Atk maximizes an already good atk stat, while 252 in Speed makes him fast(ish). Mach Punch is for covering up bad speed, spore is for good sleep inducing, Facade's power is doubled because of Poison. Stone Edge is for Flying types that wall me, whereas Seed Bomb is STAB and get waters and ground, as well as rock(but that's covered by Mach Punch).



Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on June 24, 2009, 08:41:29 pm
@blade: as i said arcanine is better all-around. it won't force switches, which are made bad by stealth rock. and arcanine can defend from sweepers and get past walls.

@ZLS: i would have thunderbolt, for double or multi battles.

also, how do you challenge frontier brains? idk how...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on June 25, 2009, 12:09:59 am
Here I have a situation. I was breeding Turtwigs for my Competitive team, when I happened to get two Impish ones on the third round; the kind I was looking for. Since EV training them wouldn't help much in the long run, I looked at the IVs.

Turtwig 1:
HP-14
Atk-28
Def-29
SAtk-9
SDef-1
Spd-8

Turtwig 2:
HP-26
Atk-13
Def-6
SAtk-9
SDef-21
Spd-3

Which to choose... =/
(IV stats were calculated at Lv 100, no EVs.)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on June 25, 2009, 02:00:51 am
@ everyone: wow, those stats are confusing...could someone give me a tutorial?  I've gotten by so far just by setting up my team based on elemental type...but after Jupiter nearly killed me...

Also, does anyone know a good spot to level-grind about 30 pokemon from ~lvl 5 to ~lvl 20?  (Keep in mind I only have the second Gym badge, and I just got my first Bike.)  In particular I need to get Magikarp to evolve (I just got him to lvl 16 by giving him an EXP share...).

BTW, anyone already know this trick: to give a pokemon experience without ever risking it in battle, set it as your starter.  As soon as the fight starts, switch it out, and hey presto it'll gain experience at fight's end.  Kind of like an EXP share, but your main pokemon get's attacked as soon as you send it out.

sorry, no, I don't have wifi.  Hopefully soon, but...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on June 25, 2009, 07:14:16 am
@ blade: as i said arcanine is better all-around. it won't force switches, which are made bad by stealth rock. and arcanine can defend from sweepers and get past walls.

@ZLS: i would have thunderbolt, for double or multi battles.

also, how do you challenge frontier brains? idk how...
eh. I'll probably go with Thunderbolt, but I can always switch it back if I need to..

as for battling the FBs... each one requires a different method. i think these are correct:
Battle Castle: complete 20 single battles and fight the brain on the 21st.
Battle Hall: Complete 49 battles and fight the brain on the 50th.
Battle Tower: Complete 20 single battles and fight the brain on the 21st.
Battle Factory: Complete 20 single battles and fight the brain on the 21st.

idk about the last one... don't even know the name...

@DB: I have no idea which one. I would probably go with the first one, only because Torterra is physically based. The HP is a letdown though...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 25, 2009, 09:04:01 am
@  blade: as i said arcanine is better all-around. it won't force switches, which are made bad by stealth rock. and arcanine can defend from sweepers and get past walls.

@ZLS: i would have thunderbolt, for double or multi battles.

also, how do you challenge frontier brains? idk how...
All around isn't what people use competitively, and if you're using Stealth Rock, you'll want to force switches, though Stealth Rock won't help if your opponent has a Rapid Spinner. ;) And Defend from Sweepers? Water+type of the weaker stat, physical or Special, on a dedicated sweeper+Life Orb+Atk boosting nature+Other factors=Arcanine going down, no matter how balanced it is in it's stats.

And you challenge them by participating in a certain Frontier Building, building up a streak until the brain appears.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on June 25, 2009, 09:27:33 am
@ blade: as i said arcanine is better all-around. it won't force switches, which are made bad by stealth rock. and arcanine can defend from sweepers and get past walls.

@ZLS: i would have thunderbolt, for double or multi battles.

also, how do you challenge frontier brains? idk how...

Arcanine is powerful for the UU tier, but not enough power for OU. What if Arcanine were to receive the Stealth Rock damage? Bye-bye to 1/4 of your HP, which really reduces its longevity. His moveset is also very shallow despite having Flare Blitz and ExtremeSpeed.

Since the majority of Arcanine are built to be sweepers, there are no EVs put on defenses. So what if I bring out my Milotic? Even a Surf can damage Arcanine pretty badly, and since Milotic packs 252 Defense EVs, it can hold its own from a Thunder Fang pretty well.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 25, 2009, 10:17:49 am
Plus there's Gallade, which while he could fall eventually, if he packs Stone Edge, and either outspeeds Arcanine or doesn't faint from the first hit and has a good item to hold that boosts Stone Edge's power, then Arcanine goes bye bye. Especially if it Criticals.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on June 25, 2009, 10:34:51 am
gallade would need a focousband to not fall on the first hit (i have one). and milotic or other defensive water pokĂ©mon is like tentacruel  for infernape. tough to beat.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 25, 2009, 10:49:12 am
... Explain please how Gallade wouldn't survive the first hit if set up right, without Focus Band?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on June 25, 2009, 12:39:30 pm
... Explain please how Gallade wouldn't survive the first hit if set up right, without Focus Band?
Actually, Gallade will fall on the first hit with Flare Blitz, since Arcanine is faster. Find a damage calculator and see what I mean.

If the EVs and nature were set to be a Sweeper, the least amount of damage will be ~147%, an OHKO, even with 31 IVs in HP and Defense.

Since period can't understand why Arcanine isn't as great as Infernape, I guess I will do a guide for Arcanine. I'm not saying it is a bad Pokemon, but...

So today's Pokemon is...  <--That is pretty much pointless since I already have mentioned it...

ARCANINE!!!

Type: FIRE
Ability: Intimidate  - Lowers the opponent's attack by one stage when it comes into battle. Will not take effect if the opposing Pokemon switches out to another Pokemon and the Pokemon with Intimidate stays.
          Flash Fire - Fire-type moves as well as Will O Wisp are boosted to 1.5x power when hit with a Fire-Type move.
Stats:

HP         90
Atck       110
Def        80
Sp. Atck 100
Sp. Def   80
Speed    95

Author's Opinion: In the 3rd Generation, it suffered the lack of a STAB Fire Move as well as a variety of moves. Now, it has Flare Blitz, but still has problems having a variety of moves. It is too powerful for the UU tier, but not enough to make it into OU. It is a decent Pokemon, but go with Infernape or Blaziken if you want more of a kick to attack and/or speed as well as a Stealth Rock resistance, which is a problem for Arcanine.

Recommended Movesets:
Nature: Jolly/Adamant
Item: Choice Band/Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atck/252 Speed
~ Flare Blitz
~ Thunder Fang
~ Extreme Speed
~ Iron Head/Iron Tail/Overheat/Fire Blast

Go for Intimidate, since there aren't that many Fire moves in OU as well as UU. Flare Blitz is your main STAB choice here, and Thunder Fang causes ruckus to Water types. Extreme Speed is an interesting move, which can hit Pokemon that are faster than it and are more fragile. You have several options for the last moveslot. Iron Tail for more power, but less accuracy as well as a chance for lower defense, and Iron Head for Flinch Rate, 100% accuracy, and less power.


Nature: Timid/Modest
Item: Choice Specs/Leftovers
Ability: Synchronize
EVs: 4 HP/252 Sp. Attack/252 Speed
~ Flamethrower
~ Dragon Pulse
~ Hidden Power (GRASS)/Hidden Power (GROUND)
~ Overheat/Fire Blast/Toxic

The special variant of Arcanine is rather limited too. Flamethrower is the main option, while Dragon Pulse hits Dragon types that resist Fire. Hidden Power covers up its lack of moves for Special Attack, but different types have different advantages. Hidden Power Grass gives you coverage against Water, Ground, and Rock-type Pokemon, but Hidden Power Ground hits Heatran as well as coverage against Rock types. Overheat for a burst of power, Fire Blast for its ability to not lose Sp. Attack, and Toxic can mess up Bulky Waters, so it will make a decent option in your roster.

Countering Arcanine:

Bulky Waters easily counter all variants of Arcanine if it doesn't have Toxic. Thunder Fang might sting though.

If it doesn't have a Steel typed move or Hidden Power Grass or Ground, then Rock types with high defenses like Tyranitar can wall it and make quick work of it.  

Heatran can wall Arcanine on and on and on if it doesn't have Hidden Power Ground.

Stealth Rock can reduce its ability to last long in battle so bring in a Rapid Spinner to safely bring out Arcanine.

(http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr213/B_T_Energized/Pokemon/Arcanine_Sprite.png)



Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on June 25, 2009, 12:59:09 pm
the guide is pretty good. i would replace overheat maybe w/ heat wave.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on June 25, 2009, 02:49:56 pm
Gallade has high SpDef so it can't take a Physical Flare Blitz that has STAB coming off of 110 base atk... Gallade could definately compete with the SpAtk variant of Arcainine though...

Gonna go for Battle Hall again...

Do a Ditto review next... Moveset: Transform...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on June 26, 2009, 01:37:21 am
@ everyone: wow, those stats are confusing...could someone give me a tutorial?  I've gotten by so far just by setting up my team based on elemental type...but after Jupiter nearly killed me...

Also, does anyone know a good spot to level-grind about 30 pokemon from ~lvl 5 to ~lvl 20?  (Keep in mind I only have the second Gym badge, and I just got my first Bike.)  In particular I need to get Magikarp to evolve (I just got him to lvl 16 by giving him an EXP share...).

BTW, anyone already know this trick: to give a pokemon experience without ever risking it in battle, set it as your starter.  As soon as the fight starts, switch it out, and hey presto it'll gain experience at fight's end.  Kind of like an EXP share, but your main pokemon get's attacked as soon as you send it out.

sorry, no, I don't have wifi.  Hopefully soon, but...

Why have I been ignored??  I don't understand a word you're saying!!  ??? ??? ???


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on June 26, 2009, 07:42:21 am
i don't think ur being ignored. if u need any help i can give it to u. ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 26, 2009, 09:30:34 am
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Why was Gallade brought into this?  It was being compared to Infernape, not Gallade.  And besides, for a Pokemon built to be a Physical Sweeper, it's pretty bad at it.  Forget Defense.  Speed is his downfall.  Defenses aren't that vital if he sweeps quickly and hard enough.  Gallade struggles to keep up in standard play.
Stone Edge. And yeah, which is why if there's any future item that doesn't stick to one attack and boosts speed, I'm using it for Gallade. >_>

flipz: Sorry, busy explaining to .~period here that Arcanine isn't better than Infernape. There should be overviews in the links on the first page, and Serebii.net has some good tutorials on the game mechanics. =)

!! The release date is revealed! Japan gets HG/SS on September 12/09! And... 0_o The price doesn't seem to have gone up. =O


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on June 26, 2009, 10:27:28 am
this is sorta an opinionated debate :-\


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 26, 2009, 10:36:24 am
Balanced doesn't get you anywhere usually in the competitive thing though. And in the review, BT mentioned how Thunder Fang could take out water types... Swampert isn't affected by that, and could probably last a little while against Arcanine's other attacks, and if he was able to use Stealth Rock or so, unless you had a rapid spinner on your team, he could easily switch out... Unless the opponent used a spikes-type move too =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on June 26, 2009, 12:34:48 pm
i cannot do a wifi battle. i do have wifi, but i lost my good diamond on a roadtrip... it had my arcanine. now i have my pt and my other diamond. none even have the national dex.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 26, 2009, 12:36:55 pm
Vs. seeker is before you're about to head into Mount Coronet for the first time officially. So he'd've had to finished up in Eterna first, IIRC.

Yeah, it is a surprise to me too, but all the better for me, since it means when it comes out here, I can definitely get it... or at least I hope... *Tries to save up for it now* ... *Tries to save up for it now after SF3 comes out next Tuesday* That looks better. =)

Anyway, onto something else.. What do you guys think that area to the left of Cianwood is...?

.: Aren't you up to the Battle Frontier on Plat? If so, you usually have to have the National Dex, if Diamond is any indication...(Sorry, I had gotten the ND by the time I got to Snowpoint City, anticipating that. >>;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on June 26, 2009, 01:21:36 pm
@ blade: i still need uxie and azelf. and rotom... i m a little to lazy to catch them now...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on June 26, 2009, 01:23:04 pm
Here I have a situation. I was breeding Turtwigs for my Competitive team, when I happened to get two Impish ones on the third round; the kind I was looking for. Since EV training them wouldn't help much in the long run, I looked at the IVs.

Turtwig 1:
HP-14
Atk-28
Def-29
SAtk-9
SDef-1
Spd-8

Turtwig 2:
HP-26
Atk-13
Def-6
SAtk-9
SDef-21
Spd-3

Which to choose... =/
(IV stats were calculated at Lv 100, no EVs.)
Quoted for reference. Still not sure whether to go with Atk/Def/Spd or Hp/SDef... =/

As for west of of Cianwood, it's probably a Battle Frontier, like he said.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 26, 2009, 01:40:33 pm
That's actually what I was figuring it was, and if it is, then this game isn't coming out of my DS for even longer than Plat. Oh, and I'll be disappeared from here for even longer than last time. =P

I'm just wondering, if it is a Battle Frontier, what's gonna be where the Battle Tower used to be, since they probably couldn't have two... Trainer Tower ala Emerald/FireRed anyone?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 26, 2009, 01:49:47 pm
I've gone to the Battle Factory once or twice, and if I can stop swapping out Platinum for another game for more than a few seconds, I'll try and get further in it. Battle Factory guy appears on the 49th match for the gold fight, correct?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 26, 2009, 02:01:12 pm
'k, thought so. When's the other again, so I don't get caught off guard?(I need to pay attention during this... I think I lost once because I skipped past where it was saying who was up next)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 26, 2009, 02:12:59 pm
Ah, thought it was along those lines. =) Thanks =)

Are we gonna be holding the tourney this summer, or will we at least wait for the Japanese release to see if it's got the extended Wi-Fi featrues of the DSi's WPA and such? Just seeing if I should get to work on my competitive team or not.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 26, 2009, 02:23:02 pm
'k.

*Notices something on the HGSS site* What's the stuff about mobiles...? I assume it has something to do with phones, but why's it on the front page? A phone wallpaper maybe, from the image?

*Sees the Pokemon site and jumps* Uhh...? Remember that Rotom Secret Key event I had been telling you would probably repeat? It seems it's repeating already, and until July 19th. =O


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on June 26, 2009, 03:35:14 pm
i m almost to the national dex. just need uxie and rotom... ;D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on June 26, 2009, 03:59:33 pm
@period - Rotom is pretty easy to catch despite having a catch rate of 45. I just chucked 7 Nest Balls at it in my old Diamond.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on June 26, 2009, 05:52:53 pm
i kno. i have had one in my good diamond (i lost that one) i caught it in a quick ball :p.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 27, 2009, 02:16:47 pm
Don't remind me about catching Rotom. >_> It took a few restarts to catch it.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on June 27, 2009, 02:41:59 pm
xD

I just get'm close and fire balls at will. It usually works unless it takes too long and annoys me so I have to KO them. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 27, 2009, 03:17:08 pm
I was hoping it'd be the Membership card though D=

*Notes the amount of PokeBalls he had* That probably helped, since I caught it after I first got to Eterna. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Iconox on June 27, 2009, 07:47:50 pm
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@Blade:  Now my brother can get it. >__> 

As for Rotom, I didn't have a problem getting it.  In fact, I was trying to get a good Nature.  I caught it 15 to 20 times before I was happy.  And considering that I had 999 Ultra Balls and 999 Dusk Balls to throw at it, that wasn't a problem. :P  That's been more than two weeks ago, and I still have more than 900 of each, so I don't plan on running out anytime soon.

Does anybody on here do Global Pokedex Plus? I've got a rotom egg in ma party.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 27, 2009, 07:49:49 pm
... Are you talking hacking? Most people don't hack here...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Iconox on June 27, 2009, 08:10:02 pm
... Are you talking hacking? Most people don't hack here...

U talikng to me or him buddy?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on June 27, 2009, 08:32:24 pm
Talkin to you, Ico. ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Iconox on June 28, 2009, 09:33:18 am
Talkin to you, Ico. ;)

I don't hack. GPX is one of those adoptables sites like PokePlushies only 1000X better.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 28, 2009, 10:17:51 am
Oooh, I see. I myself don't don't have it. But with all those tools like that one that let's you edit all sorts of stuff, I thought it was one of those. Sorry ^^;


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Iconox on June 28, 2009, 01:12:47 pm
That's ok. It's the site I got ma eggs and pokemon from (http://img.gpxplus.net/9/3/AGLmZmD3/image.png) (http://gpxplus.net/AGLmZmD3)(http://img.gpxplus.net/9/70/AGtjZQD0/image.png) (http://gpxplus.net/AGtjZQD0)(http://img.gpxplus.net/8/249/AGLlAQV5/image.png) (http://gpxplus.net/AGLlAQV5)(http://img.gpxplus.net/9/48/AGp0AwLk/image.png) (http://gpxplus.net/AGp0AwLk)(http://img.gpxplus.net/9/83/AGtmZwp5/image.png) (http://gpxplus.net/AGtmZwp5)(http://img.gpxplus.net/9/145/AGx4BGp3/image.png) (http://gpxplus.net/AGx4BGp3)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on June 28, 2009, 01:46:59 pm
Would you like to know the Pokemon that's going to hatch? Or not?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on June 28, 2009, 01:55:37 pm
well, i played plat a ton this weekend and beat the Battle:
-Hall
-Tower
-Arcade
!!!
Just need to beat the Factory and then I'll go for the coloured prints...

beat the Hall with a breloom lv40...
Tower w/ Porygon-Z, Scisor, and Electivire...
used same team for Arcade...

the Factory Brain got a gallade, and my choice of pokemon was awful (i started out w/ the choice of 5 water types and a Chansey...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on June 28, 2009, 03:00:06 pm
Would you like to know the Pokemon that's going to hatch? Or not?
i started that yesterday. i would like this one (http://img.gpxplus.net/9/133/AGx1BGD4/image.png) (http://gpxplus.net/AGx1BGD4) and this one (http://img.gpxplus.net/9/98/AGt3ZQZ3/image.png) (http://gpxplus.net/AGt3ZQZ3) and lastly this one (http://img.gpxplus.net/9/134/AGx2ZQV0/image.png) (http://gpxplus.net/AGx2ZQV0)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on June 28, 2009, 04:13:48 pm
Egg 1: Sableye
Egg 2: Swinub
Egg 3: I actually do not recognize that one. It says that its presence is hypnotic, so my best guess will be a Psychic Pokemon.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on June 28, 2009, 05:45:36 pm
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@Blade:  Now my brother can get it. >__> 

As for Rotom, I didn't have a problem getting it.  In fact, I was trying to get a good Nature.  I caught it 15 to 20 times before I was happy.  And considering that I had 999 Ultra Balls and 999 Dusk Balls to throw at it, that wasn't a problem. :P  That's been more than two weeks ago, and I still have more than 900 of each, so I don't plan on running out anytime soon.

...

...HOW did you get enough money for that?!?!

Yeah, I'm having trouble getting Rotom from the TV in the Chateau by Eterna City.



Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 28, 2009, 05:49:41 pm
Easy, Vs Seeker+Amulet Coin+farming those rich people outside the Pokemon Mansion. =) I've got 999,999 PokeYen myself from repeating that. =)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on June 28, 2009, 05:51:47 pm
1. Don't even use Ground Moves to weaken Rotom. He has an ability that allows immunity to it.
2. Normal and Fighting Type moves do not work either as he is a Ghost Type.
3. Weaken it as much as possible, since Rotom has a capture rate of 45, which is pretty low.
4. SAVE BEFORE YOU FIGHT/ENCOUNTER LEGENDARIES OR ONE-TIME OPPORTUNITY POKEMON.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 28, 2009, 05:54:11 pm
I thought you could refight legends in Platinum...? That's what I heard at least...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on June 28, 2009, 06:34:10 pm
1. Don't even use Ground Moves to weaken Rotom. He has an ability that allows immunity to it.
2. Normal and Fighting Type moves do not work either as he is a Ghost Type.
3. Weaken it as much as possible, since Rotom has a capture rate of 45, which is pretty low.
4. SAVE BEFORE YOU FIGHT/ENCOUNTER LEGENDARIES OR ONE-TIME OPPORTUNITY POKEMON.

45 is low? I always thought of Rotom as an easy catch(although you can't use False Swipe...) I used a dusk ball at night to catch it..

gonna go for Battle Factory again... (although I'm really getting tired of it...) should I go lv 50 or open lv?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on June 28, 2009, 06:50:33 pm
Well, if you try to catch it at full health, it becomes a challenge...

That's what I did...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on June 28, 2009, 07:07:09 pm
I thought you could refight legends in Platinum...? That's what I heard at least...
Yeah, if you kill a one-timer, you can reset it by beating the E4. As for Rotom, wait for the next night.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on June 28, 2009, 07:08:19 pm
What about roamers?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on June 28, 2009, 07:44:13 pm
Same thing, since roamers are a form of one-timers.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on June 28, 2009, 10:22:03 pm
Same thing, since roamers are a form of one-timers.

Roamers?  As in, wild Pokemon that only show up once in a blue moon?  Like the Duskull I accidentally killed in the Lost Tower?

Status Update: I now have 4 gym badges, and the trainers on the way to the next town keep forcing me to reboot... (i.e. they either kill my team, or do something rediculously unfair like stealing my Amulet Coin or Exp share, etc.)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on June 28, 2009, 11:11:49 pm
No, roamers as in the Legendary Dogs and Birds. ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on June 29, 2009, 08:34:13 am
I thought you could refight legends in Platinum...? That's what I heard at least...
Yeah, if you kill a one-timer, you can reset it by beating the E4. As for Rotom, wait for the next night.
Did not know that... I've caught all of those tho, including roamers(i used imported master balls...)

@Flipz: is this your first pokemon game? and who are you using in your team at the moment?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on June 29, 2009, 09:39:52 am
Even so, saving before fighting legendaries ensures that you get a perfect nature as well as preferable IVs. Synchronize further helps it.

Roamers are an exception, since I think that the nature is determined once they are "released".


EDIT:

YAYZ I GOTZ PLATINUM!!!!!!

It's a parade of smileys!!!

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Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on June 29, 2009, 01:19:16 pm
yay you got Platinum!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

I don't go for natures for UBER, or roamers... and since I don't have wi-fi, getting a good Rotom isn't really useful...

Team Status: 2/6 properly EV trained.
-Porygon-Z
-Breloom
-...(Have right nature)
-...(Not acquired)
-...(Not acquired)
-...(Not acquired)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 29, 2009, 01:45:12 pm
Woot, congrats BT =D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on June 29, 2009, 01:48:04 pm
Hooray for BT!

Now.....why is the release of HG/SS an event on our calender?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 29, 2009, 01:54:33 pm
Why shouldn't it be?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on June 29, 2009, 01:59:10 pm
Why shouldn't it be?
It will have no major impact on the forum, it isn't important to nearly 390 people here who will see it on the MLNO calendar,etc.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 29, 2009, 02:02:37 pm
Does it really matter? If we stuck to MLN updates, we'd have to stick the whole Calendar with updates that could change, or the many delays of LRC. I don't think that would be any better than game release dates for certain popular game series.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on June 29, 2009, 02:17:28 pm
...fair enough.

IT is nice to know the release date of HG/SS in Japan,though. At least,i assume it is for Japan.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 29, 2009, 02:21:21 pm
Yeah. Ran outta space. Though, we've kinda known the RD for a few days now, but it's gotten buried in the topic now, so...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on June 29, 2009, 03:06:16 pm
Why shouldn't it be?
It will have no major impact on the forum, it isn't important to nearly 390 people here who will see it on the MLNO calendar,etc.
Same thing with the Megaman game, but it's still up there. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 29, 2009, 03:08:54 pm
>> << *Whistles suspiciously while walking away*

Anyway, what types of features do you guys think will be in HG/SS? Aside from what's already been announced. I mean, from what we've seen, the only thing that could be considered new to the series is the additional touch screen control, and that has been in D/P/Pt a bit... So what's this new stuff they've been talking about?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on June 29, 2009, 04:11:08 pm
i think the lake trio will roam in it...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 29, 2009, 04:23:46 pm
The lake trio have been in D/P/Pt 3 times already, so unless it's an event thing like the Arceus event, I'd doubt it, and even then I don't know if they'd want to put in more roamers, since you'd have Suicune, Entei, and Raikou already.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on June 29, 2009, 04:28:20 pm
then probably the golems. generation 1&2 already had roamers, not 3.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 29, 2009, 04:41:03 pm
Gen three had roamers, and Gen 1 didn't. Roamers only were introduced with G/S/C. And the Golems have already appeared in Platinum, so I doubt they'd be in HG/SS.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on June 29, 2009, 04:48:22 pm
they only apear if u have some event regigigas.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on June 29, 2009, 05:15:18 pm
Regis won't be roamers. They never were. There'll just be the dogs IMO, and maybe the birds in Kanto(once unlocked)...

has anyone here beaten the Battle Factory?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 29, 2009, 05:22:35 pm
I don't think the Birds should be in Kanto though... They weren't in the originals, and Platinum gives a good enough explanation for why they aren't in Kanto in GSC if you remember that GSC takes place three years after RGB.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on June 29, 2009, 07:48:25 pm
@Everyone-well,here are a few of the features:

Quote from: Bulbapedia
One image reveals that three of the legendary Pokémon of Hoenn — Groudon, Kyogre and Rayquaza — will also be available in the games. Upon beating the Elite Four of Johto, Kyogre and Groudon can be caught in HeartGold and SoulSilver, respectively. Their location is currently unknown. Once both Pokémon are brought together in either HeartGold or SoulSilver, Rayquaza can be encountered.[/quote

AND:

Quote from: Bulbapedia
The fourth image shows Arceus and Cynthia together in an unknown place in HeartGold and SoulSilver where there are three symbols on the floor. One of the characters in the image is saying, "They were given the right to choose one life out of three" with no additional context. There are rumors going around Japanese forums which state that if the Arceus obtained from official events is traded to HeartGold or SoulSilver, a level 1 Dialga, Palkia or Giratina can be caught.

You will be getting a lot of oppurtunities to catch legendaries in HG/SS.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 30, 2009, 06:54:31 am
Yes, but version exclusives and Pokemon given via event Pokemon aren't anything new... And apparently there were supposed to be brand new features never seen in the main series...

One of the things I do think will be in, with the Unown Dex hopefully back, is the ability to get the Unown Dex, and to save pics of the Unown(And other stuff too like Pokedex entries!) to an SD card, as I've heard the original games apparently allowed you to print stuff like that.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on June 30, 2009, 07:10:48 am
Yeah, if you had the GB Printer, you could print things in the original games.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 30, 2009, 07:22:11 am
Ah, cool. Maybe that could be something that if you use the game in a DSi you could use? Like; You could play it on a normal DS, but it'd have more features unlocked on a DSi.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Iconox on June 30, 2009, 07:53:56 am
I don't really do the pokemon games, but GPX does basically the same stuff in terms of evolving and items. THESE STUPID EGGS ARE SO CLOSE TO HATCHING AND NOBODY ON GPX IS CLICKING! (http://img.gpxplus.net/9/3/AGLmZmD3/image.png) (http://gpxplus.net/AGLmZmD3)(http://img.gpxplus.net/9/70/AGtjZQD0/image.png) (http://gpxplus.net/AGtjZQD0)(http://img.gpxplus.net/8/249/AGLlAQV5/image.png) (http://gpxplus.net/AGLlAQV5)(http://img.gpxplus.net/9/48/AGp0AwLk/image.png) (http://gpxplus.net/AGp0AwLk)(http://img.gpxplus.net/9/83/AGtmZwp5/image.png) (http://gpxplus.net/AGtmZwp5)(http://img.gpxplus.net/9/145/AGx4BGp3/image.png) (http://gpxplus.net/AGx4BGp3) Whoops, srry about exploding like that =|


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on June 30, 2009, 05:23:50 pm
Wow. I can't connect to Wi Fia anymore since for some reason "wireless" disappeared.

I REALLY LIKED THAT CONNECTION AND IT DISAPPEARED RIGHT BEFORE MY EYES!!  >:( >:( x infinity


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on June 30, 2009, 05:28:56 pm
I learned today if I want Wi-fi, I'll need another router due to the security typing. >_<


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 30, 2009, 05:36:08 pm
B~T: *Eye twitch* Dang, I liked having battles against you D=

Duckbot: It got WPA? If so, the DSi supports that, and HG/SS may too.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on June 30, 2009, 05:55:36 pm
B~T: *Eye twitch* Dang, I liked having battles against you D=

Duckbot: It got WPA? If so, the DSi supports that, and HG/SS may too.

YYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHH

I now have the Secret Key! And my Wi Fi is working again!!

@ Blade - Wanna Battle?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on June 30, 2009, 05:58:44 pm
B~T: *Eye twitch* Dang, I liked having battles against you D=

Duckbot: It got WPA? If so, the DSi supports that, and HG/SS may too.
DSi may support that, but the games itself only support WEP or no security. And we don't want to lower the main router's security, hence the second router. ;)

And Nintendo stopped selling the Wi-fi USB plug thing. D=


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 30, 2009, 05:59:11 pm
Woot, congrats =D

Nah, I have to get around to working on my competitive team sometime... Maybe I actually do that?

Duckbot: Actually, only games released before wouldn't support it, unless they've decided to be stupid like Capcom of America and remove that feature from all games here >_>(Hey... That'd be a perfect test; try out Ryuusei no Rockman 3 Black Ace (English of course ;)) on a DSi and see if it supports the new encryption methods) So, with any luck, HG/SS will support WPA and such, though you'd still need a DSi. But for Plat and such, I think you'd need a second router... =/


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on July 01, 2009, 01:18:53 am
I thought you could refight legends in Platinum...? That's what I heard at least...
Yeah, if you kill a one-timer, you can reset it by beating the E4. As for Rotom, wait for the next night.
Did not know that... I've caught all of those tho, including roamers(i used imported master balls...)

@Flipz: is this your first pokemon game? and who are you using in your team at the moment?

Yeah it is, and worse it's only borrowed...I have to give it back on Thursday.  :(

My current team is:

Gyarados ~lvl 28
Grotle (name: Wiggy!) ~lvl 28
Kadabra (name: Kazza) ~lvl 34
Pachirisu ~ lvl 20 (soon to change, I have an EXP share on him and am going to level him up real quick in prep for the 5th Gym boss)
Togetic ~lvl 22 (soon to be removed)
Rotom ~lvl 22

2x Luxio ~lvl 17 (1 male and 1 female, again, I plan to level them up until they evolve, and then pick one to replace Togetic and possibly Gyarados or Wiggy!)

As I mentioned, I'm about to fight the 5th Gym Leader, so I'm stocking up on Electric-type Pokemon. 


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: lionytai on July 01, 2009, 01:46:29 am


And Nintendo stopped selling the Wi-fi USB plug thing. D=

If nintendo stop selling it, that doesn't mean the shops doesn't have any leftover fo those.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on July 01, 2009, 10:35:07 am
Yeah it is, and worse it's only borrowed...I have to give it back on Thursday.  :(

My current team is:

Gyarados ~lvl 28
Grotle (name: Wiggy!) ~lvl 28
Kadabra (name: Kazza) ~lvl 34
Pachirisu ~ lvl 20 (soon to change, I have an EXP share on him and am going to level him up real quick in prep for the 5th Gym boss)
Togetic ~lvl 22 (soon to be removed)
Rotom ~lvl 22

2x Luxio ~lvl 17 (1 male and 1 female, again, I plan to level them up until they evolve, and then pick one to replace Togetic and possibly Gyarados or Wiggy!)

As I mentioned, I'm about to fight the 5th Gym Leader, so I'm stocking up on Electric-type Pokemon. 

Ditch Pachirisu. Even though I have a Lvl 48 Pachirisu in my Diamond, I'm using it for Pickup purposes. Rotom will suffice for an electric type. If you have the Secret Key, then you could go to the Eterna Galactic Building and select a machine Rotom will merge for better stats.

See if you can find an opportunity to trade Kadabra and let it evolve, and you wouldn't regret having a non-legendary Pokemon with the highest Special Attack (there is another pokemon with the same base Special Attack stat). Just beware of physical sweepers.

Here is a link to see how you can make Alakazam a deadly sweeper.
http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,136801.html (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,136801.html)

Gyarados is an okay option, and in competitive battling, he somethings can score 6-0, meaning that sometimes he can defeat all 6 of your opponent's Pokemon. Just beware of Electric attacks, since he has a 4x weakness to them.

Actually, keep Togetic. If you find a Shiny Stone, you can evolve Togetic into a more powerful OU Pokemon...
Will I mention Pokemon names?

Speaking of which, you have two flying types on your team. Since I really don't like teams that repeat types, you can trade Gyarados for another water type, like Floatzel and Vaporeon, or if you can get one, Milotic. Feebas, the pre-evolution of Milotic, are really hard to obtain, so good luck, but Milotic is a really powerful Pokemon.

Or you could trade Togetic for another Pokemon that doesn't repeat types, but I can't think up of any now.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 02, 2009, 09:08:51 am
If I can get an Electivire all ready, I'll go through the Battle Hall and use that to get Gold. ;) Congrats on your wins though =)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 02, 2009, 02:29:23 pm
A secret to winning? What's that?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on July 02, 2009, 02:31:25 pm
Ludicolo with the moveset:

Nature: Modest/Timid
EVs: 4 HP/252 Sp. Attack/252 Speed
Item: Chesto Berry
~ Surf
~ Energy Ball/Giga Drain
~ Ice Beam
~ Filler

Could help in the Battle Tower Brain.

Surf for Rhyperior, Energy Ball/Giga Drain for Milotic, and Ice Beam for Dragonite. Chesto Berry to awaken Ludicolo in case he falls asleep by Milotic's Hypnosis. Aren't I a genius?  ;D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on July 03, 2009, 12:06:01 am
Yeah it is, and worse it's only borrowed...I have to give it back on Thursday.  :(

My current team is:

Gyarados ~lvl 28
Grotle (name: Wiggy!) ~lvl 28
Kadabra (name: Kazza) ~lvl 34
Pachirisu ~ lvl 20 (soon to change, I have an EXP share on him and am going to level him up real quick in prep for the 5th Gym boss)
Togetic ~lvl 22 (soon to be removed)
Rotom ~lvl 22

2x Luxio ~lvl 17 (1 male and 1 female, again, I plan to level them up until they evolve, and then pick one to replace Togetic and possibly Gyarados or Wiggy!)

As I mentioned, I'm about to fight the 5th Gym Leader, so I'm stocking up on Electric-type Pokemon. 

Ditch Pachirisu. Even though I have a Lvl 48 Pachirisu in my Diamond, I'm using it for Pickup purposes. Rotom will suffice for an electric type. If you have the Secret Key, then you could go to the Eterna Galactic Building and select a machine Rotom will merge for better stats.

See if you can find an opportunity to trade Kadabra and let it evolve, and you wouldn't regret having a non-legendary Pokemon with the highest Special Attack (there is another pokemon with the same base Special Attack stat). Just beware of physical sweepers.

Here is a link to see how you can make Alakazam a deadly sweeper.
http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,136801.html (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,136801.html)

Gyarados is an okay option, and in competitive battling, he somethings can score 6-0, meaning that sometimes he can defeat all 6 of your opponent's Pokemon. Just beware of Electric attacks, since he has a 4x weakness to them.

Actually, keep Togetic. If you find a Shiny Stone, you can evolve Togetic into a more powerful OU Pokemon...
Will I mention Pokemon names?

Speaking of which, you have two flying types on your team. Since I really don't like teams that repeat types, you can trade Gyarados for another water type, like Floatzel and Vaporeon, or if you can get one, Milotic. Feebas, the pre-evolution of Milotic, are really hard to obtain, so good luck, but Milotic is a really powerful Pokemon.

Or you could trade Togetic for another Pokemon that doesn't repeat types, but I can't think up of any now.

Actually, I was planning on switching out Gyarados anyway because I realized (again) that he's Water/Flying type, not Dragon type.  Anyway, I mainly use him for wild Pokemon catching, since his Dragon Rage move always does exactly 40 damage.  It's quite useful for getting them way down without killing them.  :)

I can't trade; I don't have wifi.  :(  For the same reason, I can't get the Secret Key...

 :o :o You mean I can actually get a Shiny Stone already??  Where?!?  I really want to get Togekiss so I can level it up until it learns Aura Sphere...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on July 03, 2009, 08:59:56 am
you get it in iron island. you will also need 4 heart scales :p.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on July 03, 2009, 01:08:41 pm
Yeah it is, and worse it's only borrowed...I have to give it back on Thursday.  :(

My current team is:

Gyarados ~lvl 28
Grotle (name: Wiggy!) ~lvl 28
Kadabra (name: Kazza) ~lvl 34
Pachirisu ~ lvl 20 (soon to change, I have an EXP share on him and am going to level him up real quick in prep for the 5th Gym boss)
Togetic ~lvl 22 (soon to be removed)
Rotom ~lvl 22

2x Luxio ~lvl 17 (1 male and 1 female, again, I plan to level them up until they evolve, and then pick one to replace Togetic and possibly Gyarados or Wiggy!)

As I mentioned, I'm about to fight the 5th Gym Leader, so I'm stocking up on Electric-type Pokemon. 

Ditch Pachirisu. Even though I have a Lvl 48 Pachirisu in my Diamond, I'm using it for Pickup purposes. Rotom will suffice for an electric type. If you have the Secret Key, then you could go to the Eterna Galactic Building and select a machine Rotom will merge for better stats.

See if you can find an opportunity to trade Kadabra and let it evolve, and you wouldn't regret having a non-legendary Pokemon with the highest Special Attack (there is another pokemon with the same base Special Attack stat). Just beware of physical sweepers.

Here is a link to see how you can make Alakazam a deadly sweeper.
http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,136801.html (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,136801.html)

Gyarados is an okay option, and in competitive battling, he somethings can score 6-0, meaning that sometimes he can defeat all 6 of your opponent's Pokemon. Just beware of Electric attacks, since he has a 4x weakness to them.

Actually, keep Togetic. If you find a Shiny Stone, you can evolve Togetic into a more powerful OU Pokemon...
Will I mention Pokemon names?

Speaking of which, you have two flying types on your team. Since I really don't like teams that repeat types, you can trade Gyarados for another water type, like Floatzel and Vaporeon, or if you can get one, Milotic. Feebas, the pre-evolution of Milotic, are really hard to obtain, so good luck, but Milotic is a really powerful Pokemon.

Or you could trade Togetic for another Pokemon that doesn't repeat types, but I can't think up of any now.

Actually, I was planning on switching out Gyarados anyway because I realized (again) that he's Water/Flying type, not Dragon type.  Anyway, I mainly use him for wild Pokemon catching, since his Dragon Rage move always does exactly 40 damage.  It's quite useful for getting them way down without killing them.  :)

I can't trade; I don't have wifi.  :(  For the same reason, I can't get the Secret Key...

 :o :o You mean I can actually get a Shiny Stone already??  Where?!?  I really want to get Togekiss so I can level it up until it learns Aura Sphere...

You'll have to wait for Iron Island buddy, as period said. Or you could level up your Pachirisu to Level 41 and use Pickup. Speaking of which, what ability does Pachirisu have? If it has Pickup, then just battle with Pokemon until it is holding something. Also, you need a Heart Scale to teach it Aura Sphere...  And another one for Air Slash...  Avoid Physical moves. Go with Special moves, since Togekiss's base Sp. Attack is 120, which is very high.

In game and Pre-E4, a good moveset for Togekiss would be:
~ Air Slash
~ Aura Sphere
~ Magical Leaf
~ Ancient Power

You need another Heart Scale to teach it Magical Leaf, as well as raising it to Level 33 for Ancient Power. If it has Serene Grace, then Air Slash and Ancient Power would be really great moves. Hustle on Togekiss is a really bad ability, especially since it is meant to be a Special Sweeper, not a Physical one. 

For a Dragon type, go with Altaria or Garchomp. Garchomp is a Ground type, so it will overlap Torterra's typing. So Altaria is the only non-legendary Dragon type Pre-E4. You can always use Giratina, but he is too powerful, and it will probably suck the fun out of the game.


Oh, and a question, will wild Magmar in Platinum hold the Magmarizer? Will wild Electabuzz hold the Electrizer?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 03, 2009, 01:11:15 pm
Either that, or Elekid or Magby. I forget ATM. If you're looking for Elekid and Magby, I'm pretty sure they're a choice for the guy to say they're there after the Elite Four or so.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on July 03, 2009, 01:25:45 pm
I'm pretty sure you have to breed Electabuzz and Magmar for Elekid and Magby respectively to get them in Platinum. Elekid and Magby are found in D/P.

I'm talking about Platinum. I'm wondering whether wild Magmar and Electabuzz hold their respective trade items in Platinum or not.  ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 03, 2009, 01:28:21 pm
I'm pretty sure you have to breed Electabuzz and Magmar for Elekid and Magby respectively to get them in Platinum. Elekid and Magby are found in D/P.

I'm talking about Platinum. I'm wondering whether wild Magmar and Electabuzz hold their respective trade items in Platinum or not.  ;)
I've caught them in the wild though, IIRC. =|


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on July 03, 2009, 01:31:47 pm
On Platinum?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 03, 2009, 01:46:05 pm
I had thought so, but according to Serebii, no... =/

*Sees the new commercial for HGSS* ... This is now officially one of the best games ever. Full blown 3D Ocarina of time worthy start screen. ... Well, N64-like graphics for Ho-oh and Lugia that is. This continues to amaze me.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on July 03, 2009, 02:07:11 pm
What route did you catch them on?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 03, 2009, 02:39:44 pm
I'm not sure now if I even caught them, but I had thought in the Trophy Garden... Maybe I confused them with Mime Jr and Bonsly...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on July 03, 2009, 02:47:08 pm
Wait, what was in your GBA slot?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 03, 2009, 02:48:55 pm
Either FireRed, Sapphire, or Emerald... I forget...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on July 03, 2009, 03:01:58 pm
I think you confused them with Mime Jr. and Bonsly...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on July 03, 2009, 03:59:19 pm
A secret to winning? What's that?
Using Electivire. I beat Argenta with Electivire and won a silver print on my first try. She used a Pokemon with weaknesses to three of my moves-Brick Break,Earthquake and Fire Punch. TOTAL PWNAGE.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 03, 2009, 06:39:05 pm
I've beaten Argenta a few times on my first try for the Silver print, one with a Staraptor from my In-Game team. =)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on July 03, 2009, 08:15:18 pm
Not that it matters, but I soft-resetted for an Eevee with good IVs. Eventually, I got:

A Modest Eevee with 31 IVs in Special Attack!

Eevee (Modest)
IVs:
HP:    10 - 14
Att:   5 - 9
Def:   5 - 9
SpA:   31
SpD:   5 - 9
Speed: 20 - 24

Modest #133 Eevee: 10 - 14 / 5 - 9 / 5 - 9 / 31 / 5 - 9 / 20 - 24



Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on July 03, 2009, 09:14:42 pm
My current team is:

Gyarados ~lvl 28
Grotle (name: Wiggy!) ~lvl 28
Kadabra (name: Kazza) ~lvl 34
Pachirisu ~ lvl 20 (soon to change, I have an EXP share on him and am going to level him up real quick in prep for the 5th Gym boss)
Togetic ~lvl 22 (soon to be removed)
Rotom ~lvl 22

2x Luxio ~lvl 17 (1 male and 1 female, again, I plan to level them up until they evolve, and then pick one to replace Togetic and possibly Gyarados or Wiggy!)

As I mentioned, I'm about to fight the 5th Gym Leader, so I'm stocking up on Electric-type Pokemon. 

Ditch Pachirisu. Even though I have a Lvl 48 Pachirisu in my Diamond, I'm using it for Pickup purposes. Rotom will suffice for an electric type. If you have the Secret Key, then you could go to the Eterna Galactic Building and select a machine Rotom will merge for better stats.

See if you can find an opportunity to trade Kadabra and let it evolve, and you wouldn't regret having a non-legendary Pokemon with the highest Special Attack (there is another pokemon with the same base Special Attack stat). Just beware of physical sweepers.

Here is a link to see how you can make Alakazam a deadly sweeper.
http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,136801.html (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,136801.html)

Gyarados is an okay option, and in competitive battling, he somethings can score 6-0, meaning that sometimes he can defeat all 6 of your opponent's Pokemon. Just beware of Electric attacks, since he has a 4x weakness to them.

Actually, keep Togetic. If you find a Shiny Stone, you can evolve Togetic into a more powerful OU Pokemon...
Will I mention Pokemon names?

Speaking of which, you have two flying types on your team. Since I really don't like teams that repeat types, you can trade Gyarados for another water type, like Floatzel and Vaporeon, or if you can get one, Milotic. Feebas, the pre-evolution of Milotic, are really hard to obtain, so good luck, but Milotic is a really powerful Pokemon.

Or you could trade Togetic for another Pokemon that doesn't repeat types, but I can't think up of any now.

Actually, I was planning on switching out Gyarados anyway because I realized (again) that he's Water/Flying type, not Dragon type.  Anyway, I mainly use him for wild Pokemon catching, since his Dragon Rage move always does exactly 40 damage.  It's quite useful for getting them way down without killing them.  :)

I can't trade; I don't have wifi.  :(  For the same reason, I can't get the Secret Key...

 :o :o You mean I can actually get a Shiny Stone already??  Where?!?  I really want to get Togekiss so I can level it up until it learns Aura Sphere...

You'll have to wait for Iron Island buddy, as period said. Or you could level up your Pachirisu to Level 41 and use Pickup. Speaking of which, what ability does Pachirisu have? If it has Pickup, then just battle with Pokemon until it is holding something. Also, you need a Heart Scale to teach it Aura Sphere...  And another one for Air Slash...  Avoid Physical moves. Go with Special moves, since Togekiss's base Sp. Attack is 120, which is very high.

In game and Pre-E4, a good moveset for Togekiss would be:
~ Air Slash
~ Aura Sphere
~ Magical Leaf
~ Ancient Power

You need another Heart Scale to teach it Magical Leaf, as well as raising it to Level 33 for Ancient Power. If it has Serene Grace, then Air Slash and Ancient Power would be really great moves. Hustle on Togekiss is a really bad ability, especially since it is meant to be a Special Sweeper, not a Physical one. 

For a Dragon type, go with Altaria or Garchomp. Garchomp is a Ground type, so it will overlap Torterra's typing. So Altaria is the only non-legendary Dragon type Pre-E4. You can always use Giratina, but he is too powerful, and it will probably suck the fun out of the game. 

Umm...?  I don't recognize any of those names.  I just went back to Verity Lakefront because I missed some stuff there.  Pachirisu has Pickup, but it mainly gives me Great Balls and Ultra Balls.  Where do I need to go for Pachirisu to pickup a Shiny Stone?

Meh, I already have 1 Heart Scale...I can have all three I need within 2-4 days by visiting the newspaper guy in Floaroma Town...

Speaking of which, I need to get to Valley Windworks today.  Any tips for catching Drifloon?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on July 05, 2009, 12:54:34 pm
I have all 5 silver prints now... (which means I need to begin going for coloured prints >_<)

as for getting Drifloon: go on a Friday...lol no, actually, it is on Friday, but it's at a lowish level, so Dusk Balls for night and Dragon Rage to lower health should be sufficient. As he said: save, fight, throw, and reset as needed...

I need wi-fi if I ever want to check IVs... I've currently EV trained 4 of 6 pokemon for my competitive team, so hopefully they can come in use sometime in the future...

Battle Hall will be my first coloured print(hopefully). I need a pokemon to do it with though... currently using a Lucario:
Lucario @ item
Modest
4HP
252SpAtk
252Speed
~Dragon Pulse
~Vacuum Wave
~Dark Pulse
~Aura Sphere

suggestions?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 06, 2009, 08:33:03 am
Wow, sounds like an epic setup. I should really get to trying the Battle Factory once I'm done with SF3. ^^


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on July 06, 2009, 12:10:24 pm
how far into it were you? (like which round of 7 battles...)

Didn't play Plat yesterday, cause I didn't feel like it... I need to find 2 pokemon that can go on my team, that would work well with the 4 currents ones... and I may need to replace 1 or 2 of the current ones to keep away from overlapping typing...

BTW, not that I was going to do something like this, but can you have more than one pokemon on a team of the same kind(like having 2 Garchomps on an Uber team)?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on July 06, 2009, 04:45:18 pm
i thought you said salemence wasn't that great when i trained one...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on July 06, 2009, 06:12:34 pm
...Salamance is amazing, I don't know why he would have said that(unless yours had a bad nature or the wrong moveset or somthing). It's fast, has a powerful base atk, and a strong base spatk. It's 4x weakness to ice is not great, and putting the flying type on it was not nice, IMO, but it deals with it.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on July 06, 2009, 07:15:06 pm
i had a good salamance in my good diamond... fully EV trained to be a sweeper.
@ ddude: were did he post it?

btw in my ruby i m going to train a shuckle.how do u tell ivs?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: lionytai on July 06, 2009, 09:03:57 pm
MY brother and I have a silver gameboy, we need help catching Lugia(I haven't tried. ONly he has tried to catch). Any ideas?

Our current team:
Megamnuim
Onix(traded)
Haunter
Pigeot(will get down)
machoke(will get down)(traded)
Red garados


Ideal:
Megamuim
onix
haunter
red garados
Luigia
Hitmonchan/hitmontop  (not sure)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on July 06, 2009, 09:31:00 pm
i have gold... nut my game reset somehow D=

but i would have a hitmonlee instead of the other tyrogue options...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on July 06, 2009, 09:37:46 pm
Well,lionytai....

On .'s point of the Hitmons,i would say your best bet is Hitmontop. Hitmontop is my personal favorite,plus it makes a good staller.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: lionytai on July 07, 2009, 12:22:54 am
Well,lionytai....

On .'s point of the Hitmons,i would say your best bet is Hitmontop. Hitmontop is my personal favorite,plus it makes a good staller.

Can it use punches?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 07, 2009, 09:20:14 am
i have gold... nut my game reset somehow D=

but i would have a hitmonlee instead of the other tyrogue options...
It was probably the internal battery dying that did it... =/


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on July 07, 2009, 09:46:36 am
meh i traded it all of my good pokémon to my ruby from that anyway.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on July 07, 2009, 11:35:00 am
Quote
@ddude:  I don't recall saying that.  Salamence is one of the best in the game.  If you could cite this inference, it would be appreciated. 

@ZLS:  I was on the fourth round, right after beating Thorton the first time.  The key, though, is that you trade as often as you possibly can.  Later down the road, this can get you extremely superior Pokemon, like the one I mentioned, and you have a better chance of winning, especially against Thorton.  When I was offered that Milotic, I had traded every time beforehand, except once, and that was a trade right before Thorton.  I didn't want to ruin my setup, so that was an exception.  But you just have to trade as often as possible, otherwise you can't win.
oh. You've been further than me then. I beat Thorton, then lost in the next round on my 2nd or 3rd fight. Trading is good, but sometimes I like to keep certain pokemon, but sometimes I start with awful pokemon(all 6 are bad). I've noticed that Speed can be key in many matches, since a lot of Sweepers are OHKO'd because they attack second and can't set up or do damage.

I think that Battle Factory is actually the hardest of the 5 places because of the unknown things that can happen, as well as the fact that you need to know each pokemon's purpose in order to succeed. In the Battle Arcade you can usually manipulate the game board to be good for your team, and you can only have 3 pokemon, so you don't need to know as much. Battle Tower is the same, but minus the game board. Battle Hall and Castle are unique to themselves, but Castle can be easy once you have enough points racked up. I can usually skip the final battle, making me only need to battle 6 times to win.

I think in the Battle Castle my streak is up to 28 or 35...

You can't trade from GSC to RSE can you?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on July 07, 2009, 12:59:37 pm
Yeah, Plat's BF is way easier. I've gotten all five Silver Prints already, whearas is Emerald I only ever got 3: Pyramid, Factory and either Dome or Temple.

Temple basically required you to have 4 attacking moves on the pokemon to ensure damage was given each turn. Pyramid was probably the best one in the Battle Frontier, simply because you encountered wild pokemon and you walked around and couldn't recover every turn. Battle Castle is a spinoff of that one, but in a much easier format. No walking, no wild pokemon, but the ability to customize the battles you do.

And yes, Battle Hall for Silver print is much to easy(unless you encounter an annoying Shuckle lol). I'm not actually sure Magicarp could win a print, but you never know.

And I skip battles to ensure a win... I hate getting to a seventh battle and losing. But yes, it is sometimes a waste of points, but other times I feel that I'm an underdog that isn't gonna easily win, so I skip. With the 6 other battles I usually level up the opponents pokemon, which allows me to get extra points. This works so that I usually start out with 60-70 points, and I usually end up in that range at the end.

And not allowing GSC to transport to RSE was a huge mistake. Celebi was lost, and Ho-oh, Lugia and Mew were made hard to get. FRLG was made only to allow pokemon from before RSE to be caught, but you still needed to go through the game 3 times to get all three dogs.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on July 07, 2009, 01:17:43 pm
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@ddude:  I don't recall saying that.  Salamence is one of the best in the game.  If you could cite this inference, it would be appreciated. 

I don't feel like digging it up;I was probably mistaken.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on July 07, 2009, 03:53:42 pm
Just a passing thought, but the odds of remaking FRLG and RSE on DS are fairly low, correct? Since that'd detract from the point of Pal Park even though it'd put every generation on the DS?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on July 07, 2009, 06:08:12 pm
Probably not gonna happen. With HGSS its easy to get most pokemon now. Although I'd love to do Emerald over again in DS format. The upgraded graphics would be great, and having the Acro Bike would be cool. RSE also had the cool tower to get Rayquaza, which actually involved some skill in using the Mach Bike, unlike getting to Dia/Pal in Mt Coronet.

On that note, how do you get Giratina in DP. I know he's in Turnback Cave, but how does the advancement through rooms and past towers go(I just go in random doors, but there is an actual method right?).


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Iconox on July 07, 2009, 06:19:59 pm
I don't play pokemon besides GPX, but does anybody know how to get the Azure FLute and get Arceus?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on July 07, 2009, 08:33:36 pm
I thought as much. Although you have to wonder, what could they possibly come up with after "The God of Pokemon" ? =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on July 07, 2009, 08:47:58 pm
sry that was my leafgrean i traded to my ruby >.< sry.

@ dudebot: i think there will be a pokémon jesus :p


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: lionytai on July 07, 2009, 08:58:48 pm
Well,lionytai....

On .'s point of the Hitmons,i would say your best bet is Hitmontop. Hitmontop is my personal favorite,plus it makes a good staller.

Can it use punches?
Someone please help me!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on July 07, 2009, 09:04:44 pm
Well,lionytai....

On .'s point of the Hitmons,i would say your best bet is Hitmontop. Hitmontop is my personal favorite,plus it makes a good staller.

Can it use punches?
Someone please help me!
no it can't in silver. unless your tyrogue knew mach punch when it hatched.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: lionytai on July 07, 2009, 09:21:16 pm
thanks for letting me know. We ned a pokemon who can use punches.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on July 08, 2009, 01:12:24 am
I have almost completely EV trained my "base" competitive team, base meaning the pre-evovled forms. The "almost" comes with my Weavile.

When I was EV training it, I wasn't fully aware about how EV training works. Therefore, I believe it has 255Atk/255Spd instead of 6Hp/252Atk/252Spd. So my question is this:

When I use an EV-lowering berry on each stat, how many EVs are removed?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 08, 2009, 09:35:37 am
... rbg/res remackes nxt yer! ... =P </jk> Nah, they don't seem likely, unless they do away with the double slot entirely and haven't put the six starters from those two sets of games in HG/SS.

Duckbot: They don't really have to surpass Arceus, seeing as he's an event legend, they could build on other Pokemon already in the game. Plus, if Gen 5 has an even more serious storyline(If that's even possible after Platinum), then whether or not they've topped Arceus won't matter.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on July 08, 2009, 11:55:18 am
@Duckbot Longname: The first EV removal berry puts the EVs of that stat down to 100(sadly). Each berry after that drops EVs by 10, so to completely remove EVs of any given stat you need a max of 11 berries. You'll 2 berries, and then you'll have to add 152 EVs back onto Atk and Speed, which means a bunch of training...

Farfetch'd needs an evolution, if they ever come out with Gen 5 games. So does Luvdisk. Two awful Pokemon who Game Freak must hate...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on July 08, 2009, 03:10:06 pm
That... Is really sad. D=
Oh well. I can do that easy. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on July 08, 2009, 07:04:02 pm
I get what you're saying,it does help to predict. And i HATED the old Battle Frontier. I challenged the Pike Queen a few times,but my Rock,Steel and Fire-based team fell flat to her Milotic EVERY time. And i was in a tournament with the guy at the Dome (Tucker? Spencer?), but lost in the first round. Tose were the two times i SAW a Brain.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on July 08, 2009, 08:02:51 pm
Heh. I hadn't known about Evs last Year.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on July 08, 2009, 09:35:07 pm
i've new about EVS since gen 2. >.< now more than breeders know about them :p.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on July 08, 2009, 09:35:30 pm
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Until I started introducing you people to them. :P
Yeah. You never know what you're mssing until someone points it out to you :P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: lionytai on July 08, 2009, 10:15:53 pm
One question: what ball should I use to catch Luiga?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 09, 2009, 09:23:08 am
Ultra or the dive ball-like ball. If possible save your Masterball for the runners or something.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on July 09, 2009, 12:13:25 pm
heh. I got further than him in the Emerald Battle Frontier...(But he'll probably get further in the Plat one...)

I wish the Battle Pyramid. It was one of the best or the best, since you actually controled where your person went. Battle Pike was okay, but you could almost always use that women to tell you the correct way to go.

And yes, the Special Physical split is a huge factor in competitive battling. Most pokemon that were good in RSEFRLG are still good, but other pokemon suffered a lot. And with the addition of stronger moves for some types(mainly Rock, with Stealth Rock, Stone Edge, Head Smash(which no one uses) and Rock Wrecker(again, not used, but was added)) some pokemon that were considered walls have been really affected.

Sharpedo(although still UU or NU) is one of the pokemon that really benefitted, with Waterfall and Crunch/Night Slash becoming available.


Still haven't played Plat since about 4 days... no time. But I do hope to get at least one coloured print before HGSS comes out in CAD.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 10, 2009, 12:36:42 pm
. . . =OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO <--- That's my Jaw dropping to the ground. Specifically at this line:
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Eusine from Crystal appears in the story based on the Legendary Beasts in a similar manner to Crystal
=O CRYSTAL ELEMENTS IN HG/SS. WHO'D HAVE THOUGHT. =O I only did that for emphasis. ^^; *Goes to read more of the update* Oh, that's from Serebii BTW.

... Red Gyarados Back! =D Possible, but not confirmed, Mewtwo, Latios, and Latias.

But, as the disclaimer says, not all of this is confirmed, who knows.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on July 10, 2009, 12:40:34 pm
umm... who's Eusine? (sorry, I really don't know who it is, even tho I have Crystal). But nice to see Crystal aspects getting into these games.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 10, 2009, 12:58:19 pm
Guy who kept trying to catch Suicune. =P I think I heard he battles you at one point...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on July 10, 2009, 12:59:40 pm
...I kinda remember him... its been a lllllllooooooooonnnnnnggggggg gg time since I played Crystal... I had a Celebi in that game... but no Ho-oh...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 10, 2009, 01:20:05 pm
0_o How'd you pull off getting a Celebi? 0_o

And to get a Ho-Oh, I think you need to gather all three legendary beasts.... I think there's another part since you need the feather I think, but I don't know since I never got Crystal.

... Hey, speaking of which, if Eusine's in, I wonder if they'll have the extended story then involving Suicune?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on July 10, 2009, 01:23:14 pm
I had a friend with Gold version, who also happened to have access to a Gameshark or some cheating device. He put a Celebi onto his Gold, which also is able to duplicta epokemon. One for me and one for him...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 10, 2009, 01:40:25 pm
Ah. I think Crystal can Dupe Pokemon as well, but it's harder to do so.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on July 10, 2009, 07:19:36 pm
The new news is pretty cool. I like that Lati@s are available, although I could care less if Mewtwo is available. I have a Timid Mewtwo(I guess I was lucky) so I won't need another one. My question about the Lati@s is are they unique to respective games(like they were in Ruby and Sapphire)?

As for the new attacks for the lv 1 dragons, I don't really care. I don't have wi-fi to get Arceus, so I won't be able to get one of them. Not sure which one got the best move. Metal Burst could hurt quite a bit, but it also isn't all that reliable. Hydro Pump is powerful, but compared to Surf it isn't a great addition. The atk boost is nice, but the accuracy isn't good. Shadow Sneak is a great STAB move IMO, as it forgets about Giratina's Speed, since its a priority move. I think Giratina got the best move, and Palkia didn't seem t luck out as much...

Ho-oh Lugia info is not really interesting, and neither is Red Gyarados(but every team with Gyarados will now have a shiny lol). The new touch screen games are interesting... although with my luck they'll be wi-fi room games...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 10, 2009, 07:23:59 pm
Say, why can't you get Wi-Fi anyway..? And yeah, that's likely, although I think I still have my Shiny Gyarados from when I was trying to get a Feebas. Started off as a Magikarp of course, but...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on July 10, 2009, 07:35:18 pm
1. Don't know how to set it up.
2. Parents.
3. Too lazy...

Mostly number 2. My mom keeps saying she's gonna get a new comp, and when she does we'll get wi-fi... even so, it could take a while...

I have no shiny pokemon and I'm too lazy to look for some. Maybe if I ever try for a Feebas I'll fiind a shiny magikarp...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 10, 2009, 07:38:50 pm
With the amount of time you need to take to find one, it's likely you will. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on July 10, 2009, 07:47:16 pm
I'm probably better off waiting to get wi-fi to get a Feebas... The only shiny pokemon I've ever seen is(other than the Red Gyarados in Crystal) a Pidgey in my friends FireRed...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on July 10, 2009, 10:18:36 pm
Speaking of Feebas.......

I CAUGHT ONE IN THE WILD!!! I got back into a Pokemon mood,and I'm building a competitive team from the ground up.

Here's what i have so far-
Elekid
Staravia
Milotic
Special Sweeper (Psychic type,not sure what PKMN yet)
Fire type

Here's my Plan for Milotic-

Milotic-Staller/Special Sweeper when necessary
EVs-252-Sp. Attack 252-Sp. Defence 4-Speed
Moveset-
Recover
Water Pulse
Refresh/Aqua Ring
Surf

Item-Life Ob

With . Refresh is to get rid of the effects of the nasty Toxic attack,however Aqua Ring coul dalso be helpful to aid the occasional Recover. Recover is to get my HP up when Milotic is weakened,after being whittled down. Surf is there Just for the sake of power. ANd Aqua Pulse,though a bit lacking in power,can bring the confusion effect into play,always good,especially with hefty attackers.

SO i need you guys to help me decide two things:
Should i go with Aqua Ring or Refresh?
Is there a better EV setup?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on July 11, 2009, 12:01:46 pm
imho i would have 252 def and 252 sp def and 4 sp attack. a good moveset would be

toxic
aqua ring
attract (very helpful)
surf

if you like ur EV set up i wpuld get rid or recover and have refresh and aqua ring.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on July 11, 2009, 01:18:10 pm
First of all, you never want to stick two attacking moves of the same type on one pokemon. It's unnecessary. Second of all, if you're looking for a stalling Milotic, I'd go with a rest-talk setup.

252 HP / 240 Def / 16 SpA
Item: Leftovers
Nature: Modest
~ Surf
~ Ice Beam / Toxic
~ Rest
~ Sleep Talk

Surf's there for reliable STAB, as always. Whenever you use Rest, Marvel Scale'll be activated, boosting defense. Then you Talk it up to keep attacking. Ice Beam's for those grass types, along with those like Salamence, while Toxic fits with the stalling strategy.

Aqua Ring's not worth the HP gained each turn, while Refresh and Recover are equally useless, due to Rest. I already said about Water Pulse.

Hope it helps. :)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on July 11, 2009, 02:10:26 pm
Well DB,I'll go with everything u said,EXCEPT the evs-i already have 6 on my Milotic's speed.

EV corner-0/252 HP;0/232 Def;6/8 speed.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on July 11, 2009, 02:23:04 pm
Use a Tamato berry on it. That'll fix it to 0 again, so long as you keep it under 10 EVs. Otherwise you'll need another one for each set of 10. ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on July 11, 2009, 02:46:46 pm
I'm out of tose,and there are no more berries left in Sinnoh,except the berry master and the B1F Department Store.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on July 11, 2009, 07:17:33 pm
Torkoal... Plush... 0_o

...

Moving on...
Currently making adjustments to my team. I (sadly) realised that Piplup/Emp only gets agility via egg move, and the same thing for Elekid/Etv. In other words, I'm rebreeding 1/3 of my competitive team to get their movesets correct. >_<

In other news, I'm hopin to get an Ub3r team "listed" just so I have it for future reference. In other words, I'm gonna be surfin Smogun for a bit. I definately want to put my Arceus on it, along with Palkia... Maybe Wobbuffet and Kyogre...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Solo Rogue on July 11, 2009, 07:19:19 pm
Hey, guys, Serebii updated with stuff from Pokemon Sunday.

Red Gyarados at Level 30, Surfing Sprite is the one from D/P/Pt, and those touch games are in a special building is the summary of it.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on July 11, 2009, 07:58:58 pm
Pokemon... Olympics? Shoulda seen that coming...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Solo Rogue on July 11, 2009, 08:01:13 pm
Kinda makes sense, when you realize when it'll be coming out here. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on July 11, 2009, 08:04:12 pm
I was thinking they were copying M&SatOG, but that works too. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: lionytai on July 11, 2009, 09:08:45 pm
Ultra or the dive ball-like ball. If possible save your Masterball for the runners or something.
MY brother was thinking about traiing our Cute(Meganium)  to a higher level and use level ball.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on July 11, 2009, 09:16:02 pm
Ok,basically i can't get what i need for a Sleep talk Milotic,so i'm gonna use my own strategy on it. I'm not gonna reveal it though,i may trade it over to HG/SS.

Also,i decided to use an Espeon for my competitive team. Any thoughts? Better Psychic type?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on July 11, 2009, 09:58:42 pm
I'm going with my own training style,sorry.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on July 11, 2009, 10:13:37 pm
Twas but a joke. Twas only that. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on July 12, 2009, 09:19:20 am
Well... I understand the split personality thing, at least. I act differently depending on the situation IRL, on a forum, or on GTalk. You might not think it's me if you met me IRL. =P

Anyway, due to my summercampingness, I'm off P/Pt for a week. D=
Well, at least I can start back up by looking for the right AgiPiplup. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on July 12, 2009, 09:26:02 am
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The Corphish kind of embodies the nerdier, weaker, and more emotionally needy character inside of me.
That's what i  am 24/7. =P nah,IRL,you wouldn't know me either. I am actually a lot more mature than i act here sometimes. I read Reader's Digest...

And i have split pesonalities too. I act out with my lego star wars characters like i was the mdoing things.

ANYWAY....*goes to plan competitive team*


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on July 12, 2009, 07:46:41 pm
OK, Right now I'm level Grinding at the Restaurant near Valor Lakefront, trying to get Pachirisu to Level 41 or higher, and Rotom, Drifloon, and Roselia to Level 33 or higher.  Pachirisu's coming along great (mainly because I have my EXP share on him...anyone know how I can get another one?), and so are Rotom and Roselia.  Roselia in particular is quite vicious; at level 22, she has Stun Spore, Mega Drain, Leech Seed, and Magical Leaf.  In addition, if she switches out, she not only cures all of her status ailments, she also transfers the effects of Leech seed to the Pokemon she was switched for, so it continues to gain health every turn!!  So far the only thing that has given her pause is the Gyarados of the fisherman on Route 213...which is why Rotom is so useful.  Unless the Gyarados has Bite (which, sadly, both said Gyarados and Crasher Wake's Gyarados have), Rotom is virtually untouchable.  Awesome.  Plus, he has Confuse Ray, which is one of the most devastating attacks in the game, IMO, even though it doesn't directly damage the opponent.

My only problem right now is that I don't really know how to use Drifloon properly, so I'm afraid to level him up too much for fear of giving him the wrong moves.  Right now he is level 25, and he has Stockpile, Astonish, Gust, and Payback.

Anyhow, once I have them leveled-up, I'm going to boost my Torterra a level or two (he is an excellent partner for Rotom) and work on finding the last Pokemon for my team to challenge Crasher Wake.  I've already ruled out Togetic (I had to turn off the power because he OHKO'd him with gyarados and he was already my last Pokemon)...perhaps one of my Tropius?  (BTW, if I ever get wi-fi, I can breed them for you, instead of you having to get them in the Great Marsh...ugh.)  Or would Tangela be better?  Both my male and female Tropius are already Level 30, and my Tangela is at Level 28...any advice?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on July 12, 2009, 09:44:01 pm
Wow...I woulda given Flipz advice,but that is a lot better than anything i have to say.

At the moment,I'm EV training my Staravia. I'm trying to decide how i should balance it,but Sp. Defense is gonna get some EPs to deal with that Electric-type problem.

Also,a quick question on EVs-how do they work with exp Share? When i was leveling up my Feebas with exp. share,i battled 4 zubats and 1 Golbat. Would it have gotten 5 EPs or 6 EPs from that?

Also,i need some advice on training a Gallade. I really don't know where to start.....Also i'm deciding what Fire-type to get,Infernape is out because i prefer to never overlap types.

And one last thing-why did you put a Gliscor in your Plat team? I mean,nothing against it,but it isn't the greatet Pokemon.....HM slave?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on July 12, 2009, 10:56:19 pm
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It's very obvious that you're very new to the biz of Pokemon. :)  Here's a few tidbits of commentary: 

1.)  I'm a little baffled as to why you're doubling up types on your team.  You've got two Electric-types, two Ghost-types, two Grass-types, etc.  It's getting a little redundant, and that's very unnecessary.  You should never have serious type overlapping.  Usually, there should only be one type overlap, maybe two on very rare situations, but not like this.  Having two Grass-types is already more than enough.  Three is overkill.  I wouldn't use Tropius or Tangela, or even Roselia, for that matter.  Torterra is really the only one you should stick with.  What is the moveset of your Torterra? 

2.)  I'm not really sure why you're using a Pachirisu.  Rotom and even Luxray are better than him, although Rotom isn't acting to its full potential unless it's using an appliance, which severely ups its stats.  It just baffles me a little, that's all. 

3.)  On your Roselia, you have two damaging attacks of the same type - Mega Drain and Magical Leaf.  The rule of thumb in Pokemon is that only in extremely rare situations should you ever have two similar attacks like these on the same moveset, and this doesn't come close to one of those situations.  I understand you probably don't have a lot to work with, but it shouldn't be done.  Also, Roselia is usually preferred on teams that didn't pick Turtwig.  Chimchar was picked more often, due to the sheer lack of Fire-types this generation, and Roselia would have gone along better with that. 

4.)  I personally don't feel like Confuse Ray is that devestating, but that's just my opinion.  It's certainly capable of mixing things up in your favor, but I think moves like Toxic, Choice Specs Draco Meteor, etc. are more devestating.  I think it has a lot to do with your outlook of Pokemon depending on the amount of experience you have, but I can understand what you mean. 

5.)  Drifloon, and subsequently, Drifblim, is a very difficult Pokemon to raise with seemingly small gain.  I remember trying to raise a Drifblim when I was starting out in Diamond Version (back when I was still a n00b at Pokemon :P ), and it just never really seemed to take off well.  The only thing it had going for it was its substantial HP and its above average Special Attack and Speed, but that was it.  It seemed to crumble very easily. 

If you would care, I can give advice for a team in Platinum.  I'll give you some basic advice. 

1.)  As I said before, never have overlapping types, and that also includes having Pokemon that are weak to similar types.  For example, if I was to use Tropius, Salamence, Garchomp, and Torterra, this is a bad team setup, for two reasons.  One, there are overlapping types, and two, all four of them have a X4 weakness to Ice-type moves, which is a big no-no in Pokemon.  Especially with Ice-type moves, due to their high commonness, but that's for another lesson. 

2.)  Keep good balance.  Some Pokemon should be used as bulkier Pokemon that can take several hits and offer team support, while others will act as "Physical/Special Sweepers", which means that if a Pokemon is defined as a Sweeper, that Pokemon is defined as one that's meant to hit very hard, very quickly.  Here's the team of Pokemon I used on my team in Diamond Version (I also picked Torterra in both Diamond Version and Platinum Version): 

Torterra
Staraptor
Luxray
Floatzel
Rapidash
Garchomp

The team has nice balance, and although three of them are weak to Ice-type moves (two of which get X4), they both offer Ground-type support, which can help get around that.  Now, one has to note that there was a lot less to work with in Diamond Version than there was in Platinum Version.  I would say that Torterra, Staraptor, and Garchomp formed the core of this team, but let's look at my Platinum team: 

Torterra
Staraptor
Luxray
Floatzel
Infernape
Gliscor

While very little seems to have changed, a lot changed with this team.  Having become quite fluent in competitive battle in the two years between Diamond and Platinum, I was able to learn from my mistakes and see what I should and shouldn't do.  Also, Platinum was considerably easier to work with, as there were 59 more Pokemon added to the Sinnoh Pokedex, Gliscor being one of them.  But the point is that you just need to try out different things and see what works well for you.  Different Pokemon work better for different people.  And it's just a classic example that Pokemon is simple trial and error, and that you keep having to learn from your mistakes in order to get better. 

In essence, just try to keep variety going in your team.  You've got Flareon, Ponyta/Rapidash, Magmar/Magmortar, and (a fourth fire-type that's slipping my mind at the moment :P ) to work with.  Start by raising one of them. ;)

Ah.  Firstly, let me explain something.  The overlap...it's temporary.  I'm the kind of Trainer who switches out pokemon in my team often (hence, why I'm level-grinding-these Pokemon [well, not Torterra] have been sitting in my PC waiting for a chance to use them.  I've stocked up on Electric- and Grass-types so I can kill Crasher Wake with minimal resistance.  As for Pachirisu...I really want to get a Shiny Stone so I can evolve togetic into tokekiss so I can teach him Aura Sphere.  Plus, it'll pick up other evolutionary stones as time goes on, meaning I can evolve whatever I want whenever I want to.

Another problem is that I don't have wifi, and for some reason I can't access the Underground; thus, it's rather difficult to get Heart Scales to use at the Move Relearner.  There is the guy in Solaceon Town, but he has this annoying habit of asking for Pokemon that I haven't caught yet...

As far as Roselia goes-that's what she had when I caught her, and she has done exceptionally well, smashing through Level 30 enemies--Psychic-type enemies, mind you--with little to no resistance.  Also, I knew absolutely nothing about Pokemon when I first started playing, other than what I could learn from Super Smash bros Brawl; thus, I picked the Pokemon that I thought was cutest-which was Turtlewig.  Still, I'm always open to advice--what would be her ideal moveset?

Confuse Ray-Yeah, I just have really good luck with it.  Over 85% of the time, the enemy hurts itself instead of attacking (at least for me), so it's a really effective way to take enemies down over long battles.  My ideal Pokemon would have Leech Seed, Confuse Ray, Razor Leaf (or some more type-effective attack that has a good critical-hit ratio and hits both opponents in a Double Battle), and Aura Sphere.  Sadly, I don't think such a Pokemon exists...

Drifloon-Ah, OK.  In that case, I'll shelve Drifloon, evolve him at a later date to give Drifblim more complete Pokedex stats, and then shelve him again.

Team tips:
1) OK...I do have a fairly large number of types...I'll check what I have and get back to you.
2) I see...Well, I was planning to bring Kedabra and Gyarados back onto my main team as soon as I'm past Crasher Wake...and I'm planning to evolve Togetic...

My biggest problem is that I'm still heavily reliant on HM moves to get around (once I've gotten all of the HM moves and unlocked all of the goodies, I can rely solely on Fly and Surf and/or Waterfall to get around); and since I never thought to learn about Bibarel being a good HM slave (actually, I never even thought about the concep of HM slaves, period), I'm stuck with a couple of really good Pokemon saddled with HM moves.  Namely, my Torterra is stuck with Cut, and Togekiss is stuck with Rock Smash (don't ask).  Any tips on how to remedy the problem?

As far as Fire-types: What (in Platinum) are they really good for?  I'm not a huge fan of Fire-types, so I don't really know...
Anyhow, I do have that one Ponyta...I'll work on it once I'm done with Wake.

BTW, I realize that I can only get the one Evee in this game...so what should I evolve it into?  Or should I keep it as an Evee forever?  I know I don't want it to become Flareon (like I said, not a fan of Fire-types), but what are the others and their types?  And which one is most effective all-around?

BTW, as soon as I get a chance, can I PM you a list of the Pokemon I have caught so far, along with a list of the TMs/HMs I currently have?  That way you can explain to me what I should be doing.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Solo Rogue on July 13, 2009, 09:13:25 am
Sooooo.... It appears everything from Friday but the Latios/Latias/Mewtwo stuff was real. >___< I really wanted that to be real too, just to have more stuff to do(Cerulean Cave anyone?). It does make sense to not have Mewtwo in this, because of Fr/Lg, but now other than Pal Parking it....

Also, PokeGear's back, but it seems that it's not like the Poketch after all, and retains a place in the menu according to Serebii. And it also has the Itemfinder built in(Hopefully you won't have to pause and unpause to find stuff though... >_>) Oh yes, apparently you can also register two Key Items for use on the touch screen.

And some NEP news... When you get it from the event, you can't evolve it or trade it apparently. =| Meh. Someone'll figure out a moveset for it. =P

Also... Anyone have a Pikachu Coloured Pichu from the event? =) Or at least one I can borrow when I get SS? =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on July 13, 2009, 09:27:07 am
1.I can't get return,i sold all my TMs,so unless there is a way that I'm missing.......Maybe a different Flying type would be better.
2.Besides Alakazam,who would you say is the best Psychic type for a competitve team?
3.Ok.
4.Alright. I had just never trained Gligar/Scor before,so i didn't really know.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Solo Rogue on July 13, 2009, 09:43:16 am
Oooh, new PokeGear looks pretty cool, along with the new map design. Same with the new menu and how the key items thing looks, but... Is that... The running shoes as an icon on the touch screen I see...?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on July 15, 2009, 09:01:57 pm
1.I assumed i wouldn't need them.
2.Is he banned from competitive play or the Battle Frontier?
3.Ok.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Solo Rogue on July 16, 2009, 11:10:54 am
You know what?

I. Hate. Munchlax.

Why? When I fought it in the Battle Factory last night, all it kept doing was healing somehow. >_______< *Uses berry* *Stockpiles* *Recycles* *Uses Swallow* *Rinses and repeats* ... >_<

/EDIT: HAH. Tyrogue's playing Football. xD


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Solo Rogue on July 18, 2009, 12:27:11 pm
New format is pretty cool. I wonder if you can access your menu on the fly now? Like, since it's on the bottom screen, navigate it(Until you enter something of course) while walking. And new map is epic, and it actually tells you what runner is where ^^ Gyara's new sprite is cool too ^^


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on July 19, 2009, 09:39:12 am
I'm looking forward to the new,more touch -screen based features. they're making it more than just battling.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on July 19, 2009, 03:02:28 pm
im thinking of training a dugtrio.  i found a move set that may work
item: focus slash
Moves:
Rest
Sleep talk
Fissure
Double team, night slash or nothing.

i would like help deciding what is best, and were to put my EVs

also, what is the best deoxys form and what should the move set be and were should EVs go?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on July 20, 2009, 11:04:05 pm
*sigh* I really need an HM slave that can use Fly...any suggestions?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on July 21, 2009, 01:03:18 am
After my vacation, I played on my Platinum version.

Team:
~ Torterra
~ Staraptor
~ Floatzel
~ Medicham
~ Magnezone
~ Drapion

I went through well on my Platinum. Beating Cyrus in the Distorted World was a bit of a problem. Without my Medicham, things really fell apart. I beat Houndoom with a Close Combat from my Staraptor, so Cyrus sent in Weavile. I was confident that I can OHKO and outspeed it with Close Combat, so I let Staraptor stay in, but Weavile OHKO'd it with Ice Punch. The rest of my team got killed but my Torterra and one other Pokemon. Eventually, I sent out Magnezone, and I eventually Discharged it (I did not send it out since I dread Brick Break. Gyarados Earthquaked my Magnezone, so I revived one other Pokemon and eventually killed it off. Honchkrow killed off my yet-revived again Magnezone (GAHHH HEAT WAVE) and Drill Pecked Staraptor until it fainted. Of course, I eventually killed it off. From there, things went better (Crobat was the last Pokemon).

Anyways, I trained my team to level 60 each. I have yet to take on the E4.

@flipz - Basically any non-Bug type Pokemon with wings can fly.
@period -

Fissure - W-w-w-hy would you use that...? It's banned in competitive play, and Earthquake is a better option, since you can at least OHKO some Pokemon...  ;)
Rest-Talk - Dugtrio was built for revenge killing, not for walling, considering his paper thin defenses.
Double Team is also banned in competitive play.

A good Dugtrio moveset would be:

-Earthquake
-Stone Edge/Night Slash/Pursuit
-Aerial Ace
-Sucker Punch/Stone Edge

This set only works if it has the Arena Trap ability.







Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on July 21, 2009, 10:07:28 am
fissure has 100 acuracy if it is used from sleep talk. i thought.

...




Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on July 21, 2009, 12:21:07 pm
But OHKO Moves are still banned.

Today's Pokemon is...

SALAMENCE!!!

Type: DRAGON/FLYING
Ability: Intimidate - Lowers the opponent's attack by one stage when it comes into battle. Will not take effect if the opposing Pokemon switches out to another Pokemon and the Pokemon with Intimidate stays.
Stats:

HP         95
Atck       135
Def        80
Sp. Atck 110
Sp. Def   80
Speed    100

Author's Opinion: This Pokemon is one of the most deadliest sweepers in the game. He is completely superior to almost every non-legendary Dragon, even Dragonite. An exception is Garchomp, who is now banned. It can be a Physical, Special, or even Mixed Sweeper. His moveset is rather unpredictable, which adds onto the threat. He's a great Pokemon overall, even though he has some weaknesses, which will be discussed in the bottom.  :)

BTW, HR means Highly recommended, which I will place if the set is capable of mixing Physical and Special attacks. Also, if the Pokemon has one ability, there won't be an Ability corner.

Recommended Movesets:
Nature: Adamant/Jolly (If using Stone Edge)
           Naughty/Naive (HR if using Fire Blast)
Item: Life Orb/Leftovers/Lum Berry/Yache Berry
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atck/252 Speed (Standard)
       232 Atck/ 24 Sp. Atck/252 Speed (HR if using Fire Blast)*credit to Smogon for EVs
~ Dragon Dance
~ Outrage
~ Earthquake
~ Stone Edge/Fire Blast

This is one heck of a deadly set. Dragon Dance up, and sweep. Stone Edge is for Gyarados and Zapdos and is a viable option. Fire Blast rips through defensive Steel Types, (Skarmory will be so happydevastated to see this) such as Scizor and Forretress.


Nature: Timid/Modest
Item: Choice Specs
EVs: 4 HP/252 Sp. Atck/252 Speed
~ Draco Meteor
~ Dragon Pulse
~ Flamethrower
~ Hydro Pump

Draco Meteor for a big boost in power. Flamethrower for you-know-who. Hydro Pump kills off defensive Rock types as well as Heatran.
Now, many of you complain about having two Dragon moves in one set. Notice that this is a Choice set. Draco Meteor is devastating, but you must switch out to "recharge" the move, and yu would want to switch out anyways due to Choice Specs. Dragon Pulse is for long-term battles. This set is very rarely used, but it is still a powerful set.


Nature: Rash/Mild
Item: Life Orb
EVs: 84 Atck/216 Sp. Atck/208 Speed
~ Draco Meteor
~ Fire Blast
~ Brick Break/Earthquake
~ Roost/Outrage/Crunch

The MixMence is a total Wall-Breaker as well as a devastator. Armed in both types of attacks, your wall will be ripped apart before you can say "What just happened!?!?!?!" Draco Meteor for a boost of power, and why should I bother explaining Fire Blast? Earthquake deals with Steel Type Pokemon. Brick Break can deal with defensive Pokemon like Blissey, Heatran, and land an OHKO on Tyranitar. Outrage is a physical option for Salamence for further use in Wall-Breaking, and Roost can not only lengthen its longevity, it reduces his weaknesses to Ice and Rock. Flamethrower is also an option for better accuracy and PP, but less power. Crunch can help deal with Cresselia.

Countering Salamence:

Salamence's diverse moveset options makes it difficult for counters. Gyro Ball Bronzong helps, but it must be Sassy, 0 IVs in Speed, Maximum Attack for Gyro Ball to deal the most damage. Cresselia works too, and Porygon2 can help with Physical variants by Tracing Intimidate and torture it with Ice Beam. 

Dragon Dance (DD) Salamence are very hard to counter. The best bet is to lock it into Outrage, and then send in a Defensive pokemon such as Skarmory.

Choice Specs variants can be countered by Blissey. Other Special Walls like Milotic and Suicune can shrug off hits and hit back with Ice Beam.

(http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr213/B_T_Energized/Pokemon/Salamence_Sprite.png)


@All - You can do reviews of your own if you would like... But if you want to have it like mines is, you will have to follow a certain format...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on July 21, 2009, 01:05:44 pm
I know, but I need Fly and as many other HM moves as I can get.  So far I'm looking at Zubat, since it can also use Defog, but...

If only I could breed Togetic.  Then I could use one as an HM slave for Rock Punch, Cut, and Fly, and evolve the other into Togekiss and train it for combat. ..


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on July 21, 2009, 04:07:15 pm
Double Team is also banned in competitive play.
Seriously? SWEET. I hate that move. >_<


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on July 21, 2009, 04:35:15 pm
Well, i got a few TMs from my friend for a feebas. I'm working on breeding a Chimchar to get even more TMs.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on July 22, 2009, 10:54:07 am
Double Team is also banned in competitive play.
Seriously? SWEET. I hate that move. >_<
NUU!! i luv that muv!!!

I m going to train a wobafet instead ;D
EVs: idk where 2 put them
Nature: ...
Moveset:
Counter
Mirror Coat
Destiny Bond
Encore


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on July 22, 2009, 10:56:17 am
*facepalm*

You realise that woubbafet is bannedfrom competitive play,right?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on July 22, 2009, 11:38:36 am
Actually, he isn't. He's simply in the Ub3r tier, along with Palkia, Arceus, and the rest of them. Why? Moveset, base stats, and ability. ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on July 22, 2009, 12:54:01 pm
Yet another review. *snores*

GYARADOS!!!!

Type: WATER/FLYING
Ability: Intimidate - Lowers the opponent's attack by one stage when it comes into battle. Will not take effect if the opposing Pokemon switches out to another Pokemon and the Pokemon with Intimidate stays.
Stats:

HP         95
Atck       125
Def        79
Sp. Atck 60
Sp. Def   100
Speed    81

Author's Opinion: This Pokemon got a real boost from the 3rd to 4th Generation. Physical Water STAB was added onto Gyarados's movepool, and Life Orb makes things more powerful. Stone Edge was a nice addition to its movepool. Gyarados can now devastate unprepared teams more than it used to. Stealth Rock damage was a downfall, but it still is a powerful pokemon even to this day.

Recommended Movesets:
Nature: Adamant/Jolly        
Item: Life Orb/Leftovers
EVs: 4 HP or Def/252 Atck/252 Speed
~ Dragon Dance
~ Waterfall/Aqua Tail
~ Stone Edge/Earthquake
~ Ice Fang/Stone Edge

Gyarados's most threatening set right here. Dragon Dance up, and sweep. Aqua Tail is mentioned because of its higher power but low accuracy. Stone Edge and Ice Fang are necessary moves here. Stone Edge keeps Zapdos and opposing Gyarados at bay, but you lose coverage at bulky Grass types. Ice Fang deals with this, but you lose coverage against bulky fliers as mentioned, so its one way or the other.


Nature: Adamant
Item: Leftovers
EVs: 156 HP/108 Atck/100 Def/144 Speed*Smogon for EVs
~ Taunt
~ Dragon Dance
~ Waterfall
~ Stone Edge/Ice Fang

This is a Lead Pokemon...

Taunt another Lead Pokemon to prevent it from using Stealth Rock. Taunt can also cancel out status-inducing moves, so it can really help a lot onto your team. Dragon Dance + Attack can be used later, when things have weakened a bit.

Countering Gyarados:

Porygon2 can Trace Intimidate and hit back with Thunderbolt.

If it doesn't have Bite or Stone Edge, Shedinja can completely humiliate it.

The Rotom Forms can absorb a Waterfall and hit back with STAB Thunderbolt.

Bulky Grass types like Celebi can wall Gyarados even with Ice Fang and can hit hard with its powerful Grass moves.

(http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr213/B_T_Energized/Pokemon/Gyarados_Sprite.png)


@All - You can do reviews of your own if you would like... If you are interested in doing it the same way I am doing it, I'll be glad to send a PM on my format.

Questions? Suggestions? Criticism? Post your thoughts here.  :)
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Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on July 22, 2009, 07:45:28 pm
Well,I'm working on a competitive team. I have-
Heatran
Azelf
Staraptor
Electivire
Milotic

Any suggestions for mah final Pokemon? I was thinking maybe Lucario,despite the type overlap.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on July 23, 2009, 10:21:44 am
Well let me just put it this way-Azels leading,and wearing the opponent down. It knows Stealth Rock (I got it from my friend),extrasensory,detect and Rest. it is holding a Lum Berry,which cures status problems. Heatran is more of a suicidal Sweeper. It knows mostly attack moves and if it is outsped it will go down.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on July 23, 2009, 11:12:03 am
Lead set:

~ Stealth Rock
~ Psychic
~ Explosion
~ Taunt / Fire Blast

Source - Smogon


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on July 23, 2009, 11:40:45 am
I can't get any of those moves besides stealth Rock. And I'm not asking for suggestions besides my 6th Pokemon,I'm using MY style of training. Look,you can give me all the meta-game stats you want,but i think i should still make my own decisions. I've been playing Pokemon since i was 4 or 5,and I'm 11 and a half now. I have GUT INSTINCT.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on July 23, 2009, 02:06:03 pm
Woah. Chill.



Anyways, try finding a physical wall for your team. Let your "gut instinct" find the best wall that suits you. Your team's typing looks pretty good.



No new posts, huh?

Anyways, I will talk/type about my E4 challenge. All my Pokemon were level 60.

Aaron:
I basically OHKO'd all of his Pokemon other than Drapion; I had to use two/three Hi Jump Kicks from Medicham for it to faint. Most of the work was from my Staraptor, but Magnezone OHKO'd Vespiquen with a Discharge and Medicham OHKO'd Scizor with Fire Punch. This E4 Challenge was fairly easy.

Bertha:
All of her Pokemon were OHKO'd. Thanks to the work of Torterra, Floatzel, and Medicham, it was extremely easy work.

Flint:
Same story as Bertha. All OHKO'd with Floatzel.

Lucian:
Bronzong was bit of a challenge, since Lucian Full Restored it. Medicham made quick work of it. Drapion's Crunch took care of the majority of his Pokemon (I OHKO'd Mr. Mime, thank goodness no Reflect/Light Screen). Staraptor's Brave Bird took advantage of Gallade's poor defenses.

Cynthia:
Magnezone 2HKO'd Spiritomb with Discharge. I also used Magnet Rise, since I was anticipating Garchomp. When she did sent Garchomp out, I Tri-Attacked it, but Garchomp had Flamethrower, which made quick work of Magnezone. I managed to get a Tri-Attack in though.  I sent Medicham out, and Garchomp used Earthquake, which sent Medicham near fainting. I used Ice Punch, and the Ub3rDragon went down. Then she sent out Milotic, and Medicham used ThunderPunch onto it, but didn't quite knock it out. A Surf wiped out Medicham. Staraptor managed to kill Milotic off with a Close Combat. Lucario came in, so I sent in Torterra to Earthquake Lucario, even though Torterra had damage from Aura Sphere. When Togekiss appeared, I used Drapion to use Crunch. It still lived, with a little more than half HP.
Togekiss sent an Air Slash, and I countered with Cross Poison. Guess what?

I got a critical hit! It had Sniper, but that's not important.

Staraptor made quick work of Roserade.


So that concludes my E4 Challenge, which was a piece of cake.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on July 25, 2009, 09:48:56 pm
Hm...for a waller,i'm thinking about Shuckle. Most obnoxious wall in the game. I'm think of a moveset like this-

Toxic
Rest
Gastro Acid
Safeguard

Rest is for helping when some heavy damage is done,Gastro Acid and Safeguard are to get rid of annoying Status conditions and any abilities that can slow me down,and Toxic is just there to do damage. It's sort of a "die a slow death" process-Either the opponent goes down after numerous turns of Toxic, or i go down when someone finally does enough damage. Open to suggestions,as long as they don't take out rest and toxic.

And yeah, i probably should have chilled a little. Don't get me wrong,I know the meta game is the best way to win,I just want a little credit for the fact that i can get by with MY style.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on July 26, 2009, 12:28:50 pm
However, its low HP pretty much counters its ub3r High defenses. (Base 20, I tell you)

If you didn't choose Azelf, then I would recommend Cresselia, but it will overlap.

A PHYSICAL Wall is all you need.

Why not choose:
Skarmory ((Double) Overlap)
Hippowdon (Sandstorm really helps)
Gliscor (OVERLAP)
Dusknoir (Could also serve as a Special Wall as well as a Tank, if used as Special Wall, it could replace Special Wall Milotic)
Umbreon
Bronzong (OVERLAP)

There are others, but that is what I recommend.  :)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on July 28, 2009, 09:22:31 am
Hm....Hippowdon seems the best.

Also, i got a Manaphy! There's some code in Pokemon Ranger for it my friend showed me.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 28, 2009, 09:27:33 am
Opening for Soul Silver seems EPIC AWESOMENESS. ^^


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on July 30, 2009, 08:41:39 am
Darkrai event announced. Aug 3 => Sept 13 for US. Yay.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 30, 2009, 09:41:01 am
=D =D =D =D =D =D =D =D =D =D =D Woot, this is great news =D

Any news on an Arceus event for Japan so we can get Arceus legit here if they decide to do the Shaymin stuff all over again and don't bring the events here to Canada?(As in like Toys R Us events, not the Oak's Letter one. ;))

Also, does anyone have a legit event Shaymin they can lend me, since I dunno if the Oak's Letter Shaymin can activate the Gracidea flower...?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on July 30, 2009, 09:43:39 am
Oh great. It comes over WI-FI. =(

Well, i don't, but my frined does, although i don't know if he'll give it to ya though...

Also, what's the cloning gltuch for Platinum? Is there even one?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 30, 2009, 09:51:38 am
I don't think there is, or if there is, it hasn't been found.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on July 30, 2009, 09:53:21 am
Darn. I could use that...

at least my friend has wi-fi. HE gave me a Spiritomb, which i couldn't have gotten. He also showed me the code for Manaphy for Pokemon Ranger. Right now, I'm trying to hatch a Phione egg.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 30, 2009, 10:00:20 am
Technically you don't need Wi-Fi for Spiritomb... You just have to go underground and such(Which doesn't require Wi-FI) and talk to someone(One person as long as they go in and out of the Underground 32 times) 32 times.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on July 30, 2009, 04:50:02 pm
Oh.

*looks back at early pages* I've been posting in this topic since page two. MAN, i was a n00b before i came here in Pokemon.

My friend and i are having a "Battle of the Budews". I plan on pwning him  ;D My biggest problem i finding a supereffective move...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on July 30, 2009, 07:01:04 pm
Lemme guess: Budew vs Budew? =P

I'd go on a hatching spree and get a Budew with Extrasensory. That'll help you take out the other Budew via SE move. :)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on July 30, 2009, 07:22:26 pm
I am still willing to trade a 10th anniversary Celebi for a legit Jirachi.
and does anyone have any tips for catching the Regis in Plat? I keep KOing them.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on July 30, 2009, 07:25:43 pm
Lemme guess: Budew vs Budew? =P

I'd go on a hatching spree and get a Budew with Extrasensory. That'll help you take out the other Budew via SE move. :)

But, you must have a male Nuzleaf that learned Extrasensory in order to proceed. Also, the Roselia must be holding a Rose Incense (duh =P).


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on July 30, 2009, 07:59:35 pm
I am still willing to trade a 10th anniversary Celebi for a legit Jirachi.
and does anyone have any tips for catching the Regis in Plat? I keep KOing them.
You try False Swipe? I hear it's useful for things like this. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on July 30, 2009, 08:04:22 pm
where do I get False Swipe?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on July 30, 2009, 08:09:28 pm
Lemme guess: Budew vs Budew? =P

I'd go on a hatching spree and get a Budew with Extrasensory. That'll help you take out the other Budew via SE move. :)
Well actually, we decided we can evolve it. And we have the Budews already, they're both from him. Mine is a Roselia at this point. I don't have the Rose Incense, sold it (I was still a n00b at Pokemon here for a while after Plat came out, i figured i wouldn't need things).


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on July 30, 2009, 08:39:08 pm
where do I get False Swipe?

It's a TM you can buy in the Veilstone Department Store.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on July 30, 2009, 08:53:12 pm
thanks.
*is looking forward to the august 3rd mystery gift*


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on July 30, 2009, 10:00:54 pm
You guys know that statue in Eterna? It's of a legendary Pokemon, but we couldn't tell if it was Palkia or Dialga. However, I've discovered that the manga clears up this issue.

(http://www.majhost.com/gallery/Dudebot5000/Random-Images/statue_pic.bmp)

It's both. xD


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on July 30, 2009, 10:08:49 pm
it would be cool if you could get that by putting Dialga and Palkia in the Day Care... I bet it would be really powerful!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Saturn2.0 on July 30, 2009, 10:38:50 pm
It's using Palkia's body, but with Dialga's body details.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on July 30, 2009, 10:40:04 pm
Palkia  \
           >  Pallga/Diakia
Dialga  /

I like the second one better. It'd be a Steel-WaterDragon type. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on July 31, 2009, 09:35:01 am
Steel+Water=Rust

Rust/Dragon

=P


Hey, old metal is rust, and the dragons are old, so why not?[/badlameandnotsofunnyjoke]


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on July 31, 2009, 10:54:11 am
...I wonder if we'll see this strange crossbreed as a Pokemon in Gen 5?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on July 31, 2009, 02:40:30 pm
This had me laughing for five minutes straight...once I got the joke.

Be warned, the other comics are not quite as kid-friendly as this one.  Call 'em PG-13.

http://www.vgcats.com/super/?strip_id=11


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on July 31, 2009, 04:52:58 pm
...I don't get it. What's the joke?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on July 31, 2009, 05:23:52 pm
...I don't get it. What's the joke?

MissingNo often results in corrupted graphics and/or a corrupted game file.  In this case it corrupted the "What's that Pokemon?" segment from the anime series.

Oh, well, at least I thought it was funny...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on July 31, 2009, 07:49:30 pm
Ya know, I find it strange that last night I was looking at the manga character profiles on Serebii, and today they were updated... Weird. 0_o


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Saturn2.0 on July 31, 2009, 10:38:20 pm
Steel+Water=Rust

Rust/Dragon

A rust dragon huh? Bad match, where did the water come from? Dialga isn't neccessarily water.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on July 31, 2009, 10:47:01 pm
Palkia is Water/Dragon.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on August 01, 2009, 11:03:18 am
I'm finally getting around to doing my first Plat E4 challenge. This is also the first time I've typed up what happened. =P

I'll post what happened, starting with Aaron. All team members starts this challenge at Lv 56.

[spoiler]Aaron sends out Yanmega
I send out Infernape
Infernape uses Flame Wheel – Yanmega in red HP zone
Yanmega uses Double Team -> Speed Boost
Aaron uses Full Restore
Infernape uses Flame Wheel
Yanmega -> Speed Boost
Yanmega uses Air Slash – Infernape in red HP zone
Infernape uses Flame Wheel – Yanmega faints

Aaron sends out Drapion
I sub for Torterra
Drapion uses Ice Fang – Torterra in green HP zone
(Torterra didn’t move? Probably flinched…)
Drapion uses Ice Fang – Torterra in yellow HP zone
Torterra uses Equake – Drapion faints

Aaron sends out Vespiqueen
I sub for Togekiss
Togekiss uses Thunder Wave – Vespiqueen is PAR
Vespiqueen uses Defend Order – Raises Def/Sdef
I use Max Potion on Infernape
Vespiqueen uses Defend Order – Raises Def/Sdef
Togekiss uses Air Slash – Vespiqueen in green HP zone
Vespiqueen flinched
Togekiss uses Air Slash – Misses
Vespiqueen uses Heal Order – Full health
Togekiss uses Air Slash – Vespiqueen in green HP zone
Vespiqueen flinched
Togekiss uses Air Slash – Vespiqueen in red HP zone
Vespiqueen flinched
Togekiss uses Air Slash – Vespiqueen faints

Aaron sends out Heracross
Togekiss stays
Togekiss uses Thunder Wave – Heracross is PAR
Herecross uses Stone Edge – Togekiss in yellow HP zone
Togekiss uses Roost – Togekiss in Green HP zone
Heracross uses Stone Edge – misses
Togekiss uses Air Slash – OHKO

Aaron sends oout Scizor
I switch for Infernape
Infernape uses Flame Wheel – OHKO

Aaron is defeated. ^_^[/spoiler]


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on August 01, 2009, 11:11:44 am
Congrats. Now you just need to beat four more.... good luck with that.

Wait, how'd you get two starters? 2 Dses,AR, or GTS?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on August 01, 2009, 11:25:31 am
I think he's talking to Dudebot.

Now somebody give me an idea for a good UU Pokemon.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on August 01, 2009, 11:26:51 am
Arcanine. xD

Bertha summary below. Shorter than Aaron's.

[spoiler]Bertha sends out Whiscash
I send out Torterra
Whiscash uses Aqua Tail – Torterra in green HP zone
Torterra uses Leech Seed – Successful
~HP Transfer~
Whiscash uses Aqua Tail – Torterra in green HP zone
Torterra uses Wood Hammer – Whiscash faints

Bertha sends out Gliscor
I send out Weavile
Weavile uses Ice Punch – OHKO (Level Up)

Bertha sends out Golem
I sub for Empoleon
Empoleon uses Agility – Speed Up
Golem uses EQuake – Empoleon in red HP zone
Empoleon uses Surf – OHKO

Bertha sends out Hippowdon
Empoleon stays
~Sand Stream~
Empoleon uses Surf - OHKO

Bertha sends out Rhyperior
Empoleon stays
Empoleon uses Surf – OHKO (Level Up)

Bertha is defeated. ^_^
[/spoiler]


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: ab§olute_Z3R0 on August 01, 2009, 12:15:56 pm
I play Ruby (GBA) and also VBA (Visual Boy Advance) Ruby on my computer. (Don't worry it's legal because I own a legal copy of Pokemon Ruby version for the GBA)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on August 01, 2009, 12:23:06 pm
Cool. I've got Sapphire. ^_^

Flint Summary below.

[spoiler]Flint sends out Houndoom
I send out Empoleon
Empoleon uses Agility – Speed Up
Houndoom uses Sunny Day – Sunny Weather
Empoleon uses Surf – Houndoom in red HP zone
Houndoom uses Flamethrower – Empoleon in green HP zone
Flint uses Full Restore
Empoleon uses Surf – Houndoom in yellow HP zone
Empoleon uses Surf – Houndoom faints

Flint sends out Infernape
Empoleon stays
Empoleon uses Surf – Infernape in red HP zone
Infernape uses EQuake – Empoleon faints

I send out Infernape
Infernape uses Flame Wheel – Infernape faints (Level up, learns Flare Blitz)

Flint sends out Rapidash
I sub for Togekiss
Rapidash uses Flare Blitz – Togekiss in green HP zone, Rapidash takes some damage
Togekiss uses Thunder Wave – Rapidash is PAR
I use Revive on Empoleon
Rapidash uses Sunny Day – Sunny Weather
Togekiss uses Air Slash – misses
Rapidash is PAR
Togekiss uses Air Slash – Rapidash in yellow HP zone
Rapidash uses Flare Blitz – Togekiss faints, Rapidash faints from recoil

I send out Empoleon
Flint sends out Magmortar
Empoleon uses Surf – Magmortar in yellow HP zone – uses Sitrus Berry
Magmortar uses Flamethrower – Empoleon faints

I send out Electivire
Electivire uses EQuake – Magmortar faints

Flint sends out Flareon
Electivire stays
Electivire uses EQuake – OHKO (Level Up)

Flint is defeated. ^_^
[/spoiler]


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on August 01, 2009, 12:53:41 pm
Arcanine. xD

I need another good UU Pokemon. And Arcanine is actually BL-ish.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on August 01, 2009, 05:58:19 pm
Okay, weird thing with EVs...

I gave my Roselia 15 speed EPs, and it only got a +2 for speed. Do the EVs come into effect immediatly??


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on August 01, 2009, 06:38:07 pm
No. Other wise you'd have a Lv7 Pokemon with stats in the 60s. =P
They all come into effect by Lv 100, though.

Lucian summary below.

[spoiler]Lucian sends out Mr. Mime
I send out Weavile
Weavile uses Swords Dance – Raises Atk
Mr. Mime uses Reflect – Raises Def
Weavile uses Night Slash – OHKO

Lucian sends out Gallade
I sub for Togekiss
Gallade uses Stone Edge – Togekiss in yellow HP zone
Togekiss uses Thunder Wave – Gallade is PAR
Togekiss uses Air Slash – Gallade in yellow HP zone – uses Sitrus Berry
Gallade flinched – Steadfast speed boost
Togekiss uses Air Slash – Gallade in Red HP zone
Gallade flinches – Steadfast speed boost
Lucian uses Full Restore
Togekiss uses Air Slash – Gallade in yellow HP zone
Gallade uses Stone Edge – Togekiss faints

I send out Torterra
Gallade uses Psycho Cut – Torterra in Green HP zone
Torterra uses Wood Hammer – Gallade faints, Torterra still in green HP zone (Level Up)

Lucian sends out Espeon
I sub for Weavile
Weavile uses Night Slash – OHKO Critical Hit

Lucian sends out Bronzong
I sub for Infernape
Infernape uses Flare Blitz – OHKO, Infernape in Green HP from Recoil

Lucian sends out Alakazam
I sub for Weavile
Weavile uses Night Slash – OHKO (Level Up)

Lucian is defeated. ^_^
[/spoiler]


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on August 01, 2009, 06:40:21 pm
Okay then.

Today's Pokemon is...

MILOTIC!!!

Type: WATER
Ability: Marvel Scale - When the Pokemon is inflicted with a status condition, its Defense gets raised by a stage.
Stats:

HP         95
Atck       60
Def        79
Sp. Atck 100
Sp. Def   125
Speed    81

Author's Opinion: Sadly, this Pokemon fell in the last generation. Pokemon are hitting harder than ever, and the Pokemon it used to be able to wall now has either gained more powerful moves due to the Physical/Special Split (Dragonite gaining physical Outrage,) or just simply new moves (Tyranitar with Stone Edge). Choice items gave Milotic a lot of pain as well, even with its high Special Defense. However, it is one of my favorite pokemon, so I guess I will point out the good in this thing. What sets it apart from other "Bulky Waters" is Hypnosis as well as Recover. It is now a UU Pokemon, but it still continues to do its job.


Recommended Movesets:
Nature: Bold
Item: Leftovers
EVs: 148 HP/252 Def/108 Sp. Attack *smogon for those EVs which I am too lazy to think up of my own. Thanks. =P
       148 HP/252 Def/76 Sp. Attack/34 Speed (outrun 188 Speed EV Neutral 31 IV Tyranitar)
       148 HP/252 Def/8 Sp. Attack/92 Speed (outrun 248 Speed EV Neutral 31 IV Tyranitar)
~ Surf
~ Ice Beam
~ Hypnosis
~ Recover

The other EV spreads** are assuming that Milotic happens so to have 31 IVs in Speed, which isn't really that common, and besides, Stone Edge from Tyranitar will 2HKO. If a Dragon Dance is up, then there is a chance of OHKO, assuming that Tyranitar has 252 Attack EVs, Positive Nature, holding a Choice Band, and doesn't land a Critical Hit. Hypnosis away until it hits, and Recover off damage. Simple enough. You might not OHKO the Dragons with Ice Beam, since some are packing a Yache Berry with them. Just avoid Taunt and other Sleep inducers that are faster than you.  

**The EV Spreads were invented by me, and they aren't great.  :P


Nature: Bold
Item: Leftovers
EVs: 252 HP/240 Def/16 Sp. Attack
~ Surf
~ Ice Beam/Toxic
~ Rest
~ Sleep Talk

Now, this is a set he introduced to me. So...
Quote
If you wanted to toy with your opponents, you could just shift things up completely and go with a ReSTalk Milotic.  The Sleep factor would raise its Defense, and it could constantly keep its HP up. ReSTalk Milotic is, in my opinion, the best method for a Tank.
Marvel Scale really benefits Rest, since the Sleep Status activates the ability. Bold is preferred, but if using Toxic, you can switch to Modest if you wanted to. *Smogon. Again.


Countering Milotic:
Ludicolo as well as any other Bulky Water can basically Wall it. Grass Knot is especially going to hurt it, with 100 Base Power.

Electric Sleep Talkers can absorb Hypnosis.

Blissey, Cresselia, and basically any other Special Wall that isn't weak to Water or Ice can wall it.

When switching in to Milotic, beware of Hypnosis, as it could potentially ruin your strategy.

(http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr213/B_T_Energized/Pokemon/Milotic_Sprite.png)

@Twilight - Nope, EVs will eventually get into effect as you level up. Also, the higher the level the Pokemon is, the more higher the stat boost is. Even if I EV trained a Skarmory at Level 3, I still will get the same results as if I had raised it from Level 40. So do not worry, since it is normal.  ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on August 01, 2009, 06:42:33 pm
Oh. Darn it, i needed dem extra stats....and our battle is on Monday O____O, not to mention Church is all-day for me...

Congrats! Good luck with Cynthia...



Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on August 01, 2009, 07:43:18 pm
Well, I enjoyed the ending credits. Sorta. They still bore me, but the graphics are nice, at least.

Yep, I beat the E4 without any restarts, save for one on Cynthia because I forgot to type up the battle. Speaking of which...

[spoiler]Cynthia sends out Spiritomb
I send out Togekiss
Togekiss uses Thunder Wave – Spiritomb is PAR
Spiritomb uses Dark Pulse – Togekiss in green HP zone
Togekiss uses Air Slash – Spiritomb in green HP zone
Spiritomb is PAR
Togekiss uses Air Slash – Spiritomb in yellow HP zone
Spiritomb flinches
Togekiss uses Air Slash – Spiritomb faints (Level Up)

Cynthia sends out Togekiss
I sub for Weavile
Weavile uses Ice Punch – Togekiss in red HP zone
Togekiss uses Aura Sphere – OHKO

I send out Togekiss
Cynthia uses Full Restore
Togekiss uses Air Slash – Togekiss(C) in green HP zone
Togekiss (C) uses Shock Wave- Togekiss in green HP zone
Togekiss uses Thunder Wave – Togekiss(C) is PAR
Togekiss uses Air Slash – Togekiss (C) in yellow HP zone
Togekiss(C) is PAR
Togekiss uses Air Slash – Togekiss(C) in red HP zone
Togekiss(C) uses Shock Wave – Togekiss in yellow HP zone
Togekiss uses Air Slash – Togekiss(C) faints

Cynthia sends out Lucario
I sub for Torterra
Lucario uses Aura Sphere – Torterra in green HP zone
Torterra uses EQuake – OHKO

Cynthia sends out Milotic
Torterra stays
Milotic uses Ice Beam – Torterra faints

Send out Empoleon
Empoleon uses Grass Knot – Milotic in yellow HP zone
Milotic uses Mirror Coat – OHKO (0_o   -_-   0_-)

Send out Electivire
Electivire uses Thunderpunch – Milotic faints

Cynthia sends out Garchomp
Electivire stays
Electivire uses Ice Punch – OHKO (=O   =D)

Cynthia sends out Roserade
I sub for Infernape
Infernape uses Flare Blitz – OHKO, Infernape in green HP zone from recoil

I pwned teh Champ ^_^
[/spoiler]

All members started the fight at Lv 56, fully EV trained, and ended my Weavile at 58 and everyone else at 57. ^_^


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on August 02, 2009, 09:49:32 am
Quote
@BT:  Oh, I see.  I'll have to think about that one for a second.  

And as to what I was saying earlier, I'd like to make some slight changes.  My knowledge about Milotic is a little rusty, so I went to check up on it for this discussion.  Milotic's Special Attack is definitely above average, and its HP isn't horrible, either.  It's Defense can actually be quite solid, should it be executed in the right way.  Its base stat is kind of shakey, but with the right Nature (I would hope you have Bold, but I don't know), and the right EV application, as well as good IVs, it can actually turn out to be okay.  And with Marvel Scale, Milotic walking in on something like Toxic, Thunder Wave, or Will-O-Wisp isn't without benefit, although you have to tread carefully with Toxic.  In all reality, it's really the Speed that is its downfall.  You're all ready putting effort into its Defense, which is good.  Its Special Attack and Special Defense are good and are taken care of.  I would definitely suggest, having read over it some more, putting the other 252 EVs into either Speed or HP.  Everything else will be taken care of.  Sadly, Milotic's Speed is possibly low enough in base to the point where it may not be worth attempting to recover, so I would definitely suggest attempting to make it one big Tank.  However, Speed is still a viable option.  I would put it in one of those two for sure.  I would reccommend HP to make it completely sound, but it's up to you.  

Hmm...The last move is a toughie.  Hypnosis is usually a big one with Milotic, but I guess that's out of the question. :-\  Well, I suppose Toxic is always a viable option.  It can certainly wear down on opponents that Milotic would have difficulty dealing with, particularly opposing Water-types.  And you know, if you wanted to toy with your opponents, you could just shift things up completely and go with a ReSTalk Milotic.  The Sleep factor would raise its Defense, and it could constantly keep its HP up.  ReSTalk Milotic is, in my opinion, the best method for a Tank, if that's what you're going for.  If you don't want to change things from the method you've listed, and if you're looking to make it a team-support Pokemon, you can also incorporate Light Screen into your movepool.  It'll give your Pokemon some defense from the kinds of Special Attacks that might get thrown their way in a switch out, particularly Thunderbolt and Grass Knot.  It really just depends on what you're going for.  If not Hypnosis, then I would suggest Toxic, so as to incapacitate the opponent in a few turns.  Hypnosis is usually preferable, but Toxic can also work well.  

I hope the advice I've given has helped. :)  

Here.  :P

I actually do not know what competitive team I am trying to form.
So far, it is Dragonite, Scizor, and Starmie.

Thinking up of Gliscor, Mamoswine, Blissey, Yanmega, and maybe Omastar.
Or perhaps Milotic or Salamence.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on August 03, 2009, 06:46:49 pm
It's time for B~T's Pokemon reviews!!!1111!!11!!

Pokemon of the day is...

GALLADE!

Type: PSYCHIC/FIGHTING
Ability: Steadfast - When this Pokemon flinches, its Speed increases by one stage.
Stats:

HP         68
Atck       125
Def        65
Sp. Atck 65
Sp. Def   115
Speed    80

Author's Opinion: This thing is one of my most favorite Pokemon. It's got 125 Attack, and fairly high Special defense. However, base 80 speed is just a tad too low for sweeper standards. And its poor defense means it's going to take a lot of damage before it has an opportunity to strike.


Recommended Movesets:
Nature: Jolly/Adamant
Item: Scope Lens/Expert Belt/Life Orb
EVs: 252 ATK/252 SPD/4 DEF
~ Psycho Cut
~ Close Combat
~ Night Slash/Swords Dance
~ Leaf Blade/Thunder Wave/Toxic/Hypnosis/Swords Dance/Will-O-Wisp/ThunderPunch/Ice Punch

Quote
This is a pretty good way to go with Gallade.  First off, the 252 split between Attack and Speed compliment its Physical Sweeping capabilities, and the Jolly Nature just aids further in its Speed.  The 4 Defense EVs are there to help a little in the crippled Defense of Gallade.  Gallade has a really good Special Defense, but its Defense is terrible.  Thus, Gallade needs to be a sweeper, in order to prevent getting destroyed before it can do anything.  Psycho Cut acts as a good STAB move for Gallade, which offers CH bonus.  Night Slash can also take care of pesky Psychic and Ghost-types, which would be otherwise difficult for Gallade to get rid of.  It also has a CH bonus, which is helpful.  As for its third move, you should choose Close Combat.  Close Combat offers a bit more ensured power, and with STAB, it already has a base power of 180, which is really good.  Add in a super-effective hit, and you have a base power of 360 right there, the equivalent of Explosion.  However, this comes at the cost of Special Defense and, even worse, Defense.  Defense is already crippled on Gallade, and the after-effects of Close Combat can turn bad things to worse.   The last moveslot is more of filler.  Leaf Blade adds another CH bonus move, but, even when it's super-effective on an opposing Pokemon, Close Combat can accomplish the same amount of damage even when it isn't super-effective.  The other options can include status hinderences.  For example, if you were to burn your opponent, they would lose HP each turn, and their Attack would be cut in half, potentially nullifying the risk for Gallade.  The item can vary depending on your preference.  If you want a Gallade that has almost all CH bonus moves (Psycho Cut, Night Slash, and Leaf Blade), then Scope Lens is the way to go.  This can magnify the ability to perform a Critical Hit, and can really strengthen you chances of winning.  If you used such a moveset, Gallade hits 11 of 17 types super-effectively, so if you want a certain bonus of power to his attacks, the Expert Belt is a good alternative.  Life Orb is also a good choice, but it's risky.  Gallade already has a somewhat low HP as it is, and with a terrible Defense, you really wouldn't want to risk it.  It offers a good source of power, but the cons and risks seem to outweigh the pros. 

He has well said the purpose of this set. Notice the moves I highlighted in green. They are also viable options. Hypnosis + Swords Dance is an annoying combination for many Pokemon, and Swords Dance alone could do heck amount of damage.  Will-O-Wisp can burn attackers, which helps reduce damage done onto its paperthin defenses and HP. ThunderPunch has coverage on Bulky Waters, while Ice Punch deals with Gliscor and Dragons.


Countering Gallade:
Spiritomb and Dusknoir can wall all of its attacks except Night Slash and fire back Will-O-Wisp to half its attack and throw Shadow Sneak or Shadow Ball.

Scizor can Bullet Punch it to doom, since it resists all of its attacks. Tread carefully with Close Combat though.

Cresselia's high defenses allow Night Slash to never 2HKO. If it gets hypnotized, it can Sleep Talk. Celebi also works the same way, but beware X-Scissor on some variants.

Gyarados and Slowbro fear ThunderPunch, and if Gallade doesn't, they will be Gallade's nightmares.

Gliscor and Salamence laughs at non - Ice Punch variants of Gallade. Gliscor can wall its attacks, and fire off Earthquakes for high damage. Beware Will-O-Wisp though.

Heracross's Choice Banded Megahorn can OHKO Gallade.

Focus on its weak stats: Defense and Speed. Entry hazards can lessen its longevity.

(http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr213/B_T_Energized/Pokemon/Gallade_Sprite.png)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on August 03, 2009, 06:59:11 pm
You got the Ability for Gallade wrong, B~T  ;)

Say, as a staller,who is best- Hippowdon, Dusknoir or Shuckle?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on August 03, 2009, 07:01:23 pm
I've spent an hour trying to catch the Darkrai on Newmoon Island. does anyone have any tips?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on August 03, 2009, 07:07:13 pm
Um....ask it nicely to go in the Poke Ball?  ;D

I'd reccomend inflicting a status problem on it, preferably PAR or Sleep.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on August 03, 2009, 07:14:07 pm
yeah, good idea.
(the thing about status problems, not the thing about asking nicely)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on August 03, 2009, 09:19:42 pm
False Swipe it to 1 HP. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on August 03, 2009, 11:22:14 pm
the only Pokemon I have that can learn False Swipe is my only hacked Pokemon-a really weak level 30 Mew.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on August 03, 2009, 11:34:00 pm
All of these pokemon can learn False Swipe. Not that hard to find one. =P

http://www.serebii.net/attackdex-dp/falseswipe.shtml


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on August 03, 2009, 11:35:31 pm
 my only high-level Pokemon cannot learn False Swipe-I've tried. In fact, I tried it on almost every Pokemon I have!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on August 04, 2009, 12:04:33 pm
Anyone have suggestions on a good UU Pokemon to write about?

Taken:
Arcanine
Milotic


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on August 04, 2009, 12:13:48 pm
@herochild: Did you even click the link? >_>

@B~T: Blaziken.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on August 04, 2009, 03:45:13 pm
K then.

BLAZIKEN!!!

Type: FIRE/FIGHTING
Ability: Blaze - When this Pokemon has 1/3 HP remaining or less, its Fire move's power is increased by 50%
Stats:

HP         80
Atck       120
Def        70
Sp. Atck 115
Sp. Def   70
Speed    80

Author's Opinion: This may look like an inferior Infernape, but it has some few things that Infernape doesn't have. It has access to Reversal, which combined with a Focus Sash and a Salac Berry is a nasty combination. He also packs Agility to make up for its OK speed, as well as Baton Pass to pass the boosts on. 


Recommended Movesets:

Nature: Jolly
Item: Choice Band/Scarf
EVs: 4 HP/252 Attack/252 Speed
~ Flare Blitz
~ Superpower/Brick Break/Sky Uppercut
~ Thunder Punch
~ Stone Edge

It's a Choice Band/Scarf set. What else? It just hits hard. Fun fact: Choice Banded Flare Blitz can score an OHKO on Skarmory, the best Physical Wall in the OU metagame. Earthquake is also an option to use.


Nature: Adamant
Item: Life Orb
EVs: 140 HP/252 Attack/116 Speed (with Agility)
       4 HP/252 Attack/252 Speed (with Swords Dance)
~ Flare Blitz
~ Agility/Swords Dance
~ Superpower
~ Thunder Punch/Stone Edge/Earthquake/Baton Pass

Agility can help you outrun base 120 Speed Pokemon as well as Scarfed 100's. Swords Dance is there for increasing Attack power. And then sweep. You can also Baton Pass to another Sweeper for the boost. 

Alternate Moves:
Reversal and Substitute make a nasty combination. Depending on the boosting moves, you will want to use a Salac or Liechi berry.


Countering Blaziken:
I just use too much Smogon don't I?

Anyway, Starmie, Gyarados, and Slowbro can wall its STAB Attacks, and can hit back with Surf/Waterfall. Tread carefully with Thunder Punch, and that means you, Gyarados.

Suicune is an exception, since Thunder Punch will still fail to OHKO.

Salamence walls it, but be careful of Stone Edge.

Hippowdon, Gliscor, and Donphan can counter any set without Special Attacks.

(http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr213/B_T_Energized/Pokemon/Blaziken_Sprite.png)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on August 04, 2009, 04:54:09 pm
*still can't decide between Dusknoir and Hippowdon*

At least the Battle of the Budews has been postponed to next week...i have more time to prepare.

Eh, I'll go with Dusknoir. True, it has worse HP, but Hippowdon is only good with Physical attacks. Just by looking at the Base Stat breakdown...


Dusknoir                         Hippowdon
HP-45                            HP-108
ATK-100                         ATK-112
DEF-135                         DEF-118
SP.ATK-65                      SP.ATK-68
SP.DEF-135                     SP.DEF-72
SPD-45                           SPD-47

AS you can see, there only major differences are in SP.DEF and HP. IMO, for a staller, Defense and Special Dfense are more important than HP.

Now...anyone have suggestions for it? I'm going to teach it mostly physical and annoyers attacks (will-o' wisp has to be in there somewhere), but for an EV set all i know is that I'm maxing out HP.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on August 04, 2009, 06:22:48 pm
If it's Dusknoir, you'll want a Tank setup. ;)

Item: Leftovers
Nature: Impish 
Moveset
~ Will-O-Wisp
~ Pain Split
~ Earthquake / Fire Punch
~ Ice Punch / ThunderPunch
EVs: 252 HP / 28 Atk / 228 Def 

All from Smogon.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on August 04, 2009, 06:51:01 pm
...Pain Split won't be easy to get. But I'll try.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on August 04, 2009, 08:16:20 pm
Do you have a male Misdreavus?

That's what you need for Dusknoir to learn Pain Split.

And it is easier if you have one with good Defense/Special defense/HP IVs...

Nature doesn't even matter, since it is a male, and Everstones so not work on Males. [/duh]


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on August 05, 2009, 08:33:05 am
I have fully EV trained 4 of the six members of my team. And I just need to find the right 6th member for my team. There'll be a bit of overlapping on my team, sadly, and I'm kinda afraid of fire types(although having my lead start out with Stealthrock would help).

What's a good moveset for Scisor, Adamant Nature w/ Technician?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on August 05, 2009, 01:52:11 pm
Quoted from Smogon.

Name “It’s a Trap!”
Item: Life Orb / Expert Belt
Ability: Technician
Nature: Adamant 
Moveset
~ Pursuit
~ U-turn
~ Roost
~ Bullet Punch
EVs 176 HP / 100 Atk / 176 SpD / 56 Spe 

Scizor is a perfect choice for a Pokémon that can put its opponents into a checkmate position. With Technician, Pursuit becomes a 60 base power move if the opponent decides to stay and fight. If the opponent decides to flee, Pursuit’s base power will double from 40 to 80. This set is tailored for the Uber environment where many of the physically frail Psychic-types are either hit hard by U-turn when staying in or Pursuit when attempting to escape. In the OU environment, this set is capable of handling threats such as Gengar, Starmie, and Celebi.

The given EVs allows Scizor a balance of offense and defense. With the Special Defense EVs, Scizor has the ability to switch into Dragon and Dark Pulses from Latias and Darkrai, respectively. Scizor must be aware of Latias in the rain as a boosted Thunder will 2HKO Scizor. With only one weakness, it is easy for Scizor to step into many of these threats and force them to switch out. This makes Roost an excellent option to recover damage from switching in and out or from constant Life Orb recoil. The 100 Attack EVs will OHKO standard Mewtwo, Latias, and Darkrai most of the time with U-turn unless they invest a ridiculous amount of EVs in their HP and Defense stats. Bullet Punch will hamper not only Deoxys-A, but also Darkrai since it resists Pursuit anyway. On top of that, a 379 HP / 216 Def Rayquaza suffers 36 – 43% from Scizor’s Bullet Punch, or a 95% chance of a 2HKO with Stealth Rock taken into account. Finally, the Speed EVs will outpace and trap Shedinja before it can attempt to use Will-O-Wisp (provided that Shedinja lacks its Focus Sash beforehand).

Life Orb is the best item for this set. It guarantees the OHKOs and 2HKOs listed above. If the recoil from Life Orb is a problem, Expert Belt is a fine option to remedy it. Unfortunately, not many Pokémon are hit for super effective damage from Bullet Punch. The only residual damage Scizor should really worry about is indirect damage from Stealth Rock and Spikes or Hail.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on August 05, 2009, 02:03:32 pm
Cool. I'll look around Smogon a bit, since this one seems to be mostly for Uber, although still effective in Standard. So far I have a lv 70 Scyther with Swords Dance, Agility, Night Slash and X-Scissor.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on August 05, 2009, 08:20:42 pm
@herochild: Did you even click the link? >_>
I didn't see the link at first, but yes I did. I do not have any of those Pokemon, aside from one or two level  5s and the really weak Mew I mentioned earlier.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on August 05, 2009, 08:36:10 pm
Just go up to Acuity Lakefront and catch a Sneasel at Lv 41 and you'll be good to go. ^_^


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on August 05, 2009, 11:10:48 pm
And then Typlosion after that. Just 'cause he was my favorite Johto Starter. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on August 06, 2009, 12:03:36 am
True, Typhlosion has a weak movepool, but still. =P

I just noticed something:
Diamond = Dialga
Pearl = Palkia
Platinum =/= Giratina

Something's wrong with that setup =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on August 06, 2009, 12:30:14 pm
because Ducky said so =P

My first Pokemon was a Treecko. MY first game was Ruby. I now prefer Fire Types, but i know deep down I'm a grass type trainer. Even though i deny it. Anyway, the aformentioned Treecko was one of two Pokemon i got to level 100- although the other was Rayquaza, who sorta doesn't count.

Anyway, enough of my nostalgic ramblings..

I could use a Feraligatr analysis actually. I've already picked him as my starter for SS. Coincidentaly, in SS i can get the Mascot for my first Pokemon game.

BTW, is making Heracross part of my team in SS a bad idea? His movepool put him above most fighting types IMO, but I'm not sure if there's a better choice...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on August 06, 2009, 01:13:06 pm
Beats me. =/

I've been wondering, is there a rule on PP-Up/PP-Max in any tier?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on August 06, 2009, 01:16:54 pm
Beats me =P

The real beauty of Heracross is how its attacks work. It has horrible Sp. Atk, but doesn't learn any level up moves that are special. You can totally ignore SP. Atk.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on August 06, 2009, 01:24:14 pm
I don't think there are PPMax limits. If you own Emerald and don't use all of your PPMax' before the Battle Tower you can get unlimited amounts, and I don't see why you wouldn't be allowed PPMax usage on teams. There aren't many moves that actually need it much, mostly Extreme Speed, Dynamicpunch, Stone Edge and in Ubers Spacial Rend maybe...

You can usually ignore 1 atk method on any pokemon. Scisor and Porygon-Z come to mind. Both have sky highatk and spatk respectively, but their other attaking stat is mediocre. Infernape and Lucario are mixed sweepers, so they can be either. Same goes for defence most of the time(Blissey and Steelix anyone?), although defence is usually more rounded IMO.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on August 06, 2009, 05:23:09 pm
Quote
Feraligatr rules!  Typhlosion drools! :P  Totodile was my first ever Pokemon.

Hey!  :P
I like Typhlosion!!!*sniff* Since he has hurt me by poking fun at Typhlosion, I'll make Typhlosion feel better by doing a review of him first.


Nah. I like Feraligatr too.  :) But Typhlosion got a bost in the 4th Gen too D=. And he asked first, so...

I finally beat Cynthia, and the double team of Volkner and *forgets name* the fire guy.

Ronald McDonald. XD

@SH and DT - PPMaxing moves is legal  ;)

Type: WATER
Ability: Torrent - When this Pokemon has 1/3 HP remaining or less, its Water move's power is increased by 50%
Stats:

HP         85
Atck       105
Def        100
Sp. Atck 79
Sp. Def   83
Speed    78

Author's Opinion: This may look like an inferior Gyarados, but don't underestimate it. Unlike Gyarados, it has Swords Dance, as well as Torrent, making it a nasty sweeper if played correctly.


Recommended Movesets:

Nature: Adamant/Jolly
Item: Life Orb/Leftovers
EVs: 4 HP/252 Attack/252 Speed
~ Dragon Dance
~ Waterfall/Aqua Tail
~ Ice Punch
~ Earthquake/Crunch

It's the Gyarados-Mimic of the Dragon Dance set. If you are using this set, I would go with Gyarados, since he is more threatening with this set. But you can still use it if you want.  ;) Aqua Tail has more power, but less accuracy, while Waterfall has a 20% Flinch rate and 100% accuracy, but less power. Crunch gets rid of Celebi and Cresselia as well as takes on walling Grass types and Dragon types.


Nature: Jolly
Item: Life Orb/Leftovers
EVs: 4 HP/252 Attack/252 Speed
~ Swords Dance
~ Waterfall/Aqua Tail
~ Ice Punch
~ Earthquake/Crunch

This set is what sets Feraligatr from Gyarados. Swords Dance can multiply its Attacking power by x2, resulting in a nasty sweep. I personally like this set more than the Dragon Dance one, but you must have a Jolly nature to make up the speed loss.


Nature: Jolly/Adamant
Item: Liechi Berry/Salac Berry
EVs: 4 HP/252 Attack/252 Speed
~ Swords Dance/Dragon Dance
~ Waterfall
~ Substitute
~ Flail

Assuming Feraligatr has 31 IVs in HP and 4 EVs in HP, its Substitutes are enough for 3 Substitutes, leaving exactly 25% health, as well as a Berry boost. It also is handy for Flail.


Countering Feraligatr:
Bulky Grass types such as Leafeon and Tangrowth can wall its Ice Punches.

Beware phazers, as they can roar away stat boosts. This includes Skarmory and Suicune.

Abomasnow, Hippowdon, and Tyranitar can switch in on a boosted Waterfalls and Flails respectively. The weather effects will wear down the Substitutes and eventually Feraligatr's own HP. If your name is Abomasnow, watch out for the occasional Rock Slide as well as Waterfall if you are Hippowdon or Tyranitar.

A Jolteon's Thunderbolt will OHKO Feraligatr and will completely outspeed Feraligatr even with a Dragon Dance boost (Jolly +1 Speed Feraligatr will outspeed it though). Gyarados can wall him well, but beware Rock Slide.

(http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr213/B_T_Energized/Pokemon/Feraligatr_Sprite.png)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on August 07, 2009, 03:42:00 am
Quote
We need to get a tournament going! :)
YES! =D

Why my strong support? Well, that's mostly in part to my finally getting Wi-fi! =D

Yes, I do intend to challenge people in the upcoming days/weeks. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on August 07, 2009, 07:32:28 am
Quote
@ZLS:  Blissey and Steelix?  What about SkarmBliss, the most obnoxious combo ever, even back in GSC? :P 
Well, ummm... I typed it down fast, and those two came to mind. Skarmory is the best physical wall in the game(arguably), but Steelix has higher defences(which is why I typed that down. And yes I know its weaknesses to ground, fighting and water eliminate it from all competitive battling...)



Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on August 07, 2009, 09:14:34 am
@BT's Feraligatr Review-nice, but can the Ice Punch theoretically be subbed for Ice Fang?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on August 07, 2009, 10:58:42 am
I think Ice Fang can replace Ice Punch, but the lower accuracy and loos in power is not very good.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on August 07, 2009, 02:11:56 pm
TYPHLOSION!!!!!

Type: FIRE
Ability: Blaze - When this Pokemon has 1/3 HP remaining or less, its Fire move's power is increased by 50%
Tier:  UU
Stats:

HP         78
Atck       84
Def        78
Sp. Atck 109
Sp. Def   85
Speed    100

Author's Opinion: It has Eruption, Lava Plume to burn, and Solar Beam. However, Stealth Rock makes it hard to come into play. However, Eruption is a significant gain in Typhlosion's movepool, especialy when paired with a Choice Scarf. 


Recommended Movesets:

Nature: Timid/Modest
Item: Leftovers
EVs: 4 HP/252 Sp. Attack/252 Speed
~ Sunny Day
~ Solar Beam
~ Fire Blast/Eruption/Flamethrower/Lava Plume
~ Hidden Power Ice/Focus Blast

Yes, the SunnyBeamer. Sunny Day up, and then Solar Beam. You can use Fire Blast for more power but less accuracy, but Flamethrower has less power for more accuracy. Eruption is an option if you want a head start. Hidden Power Ice is an option to rid those walling Dragons, or Focus Blast to get rid of Blissey and Heatran, and perhaps Houndoom.


Nature: Mild/Rash
Item: Choice Scarf
EVs: 144 Attack/252 Sp. Attack/122 Speed
~ Eruption
~ Focus Punch
~ Overheat
~ Earthquake/Hidden Power Ice/Hidden Power Grass

Eruption at this first turn for the most power. Focus Punch for Blissey that expects Eruption. Overheat can be used late in the game when your HP is low, as well as getting a Blaze boost. Earthquke to get Heatran out of there. Or Hidden Power Ice can get rid of Dragons, or Hidden Power Grass to make Bulky Waters out of the field.


Countering Typhlosion:
Stealth Rock wears it down. Bring in a Rapid Spinner for best effects.

Bulky Waters, particularly Gyarados, Suicune, and Milotic can take a hit from Hidden Power Grass and hit back with Waterfall and Surf respectively. Milotic can get a defense boost from a Burn if it switches in on a Lava Plume.

Flash Fire users can hurt the Choice Scarf set as long as they watch out for Earthquake.

Blissey can wall it, but beware Eruption, Focus Punch, and Focus Blast, especially if it has Full Health.

Tyranitar can take a Fire Attack and Pursuit it as it flees.

(http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr213/B_T_Energized/Pokemon/Typhlosion_Sprite.png)

News and Improvements Section:
Hello, this is, uh, the news section. August 7, 2009.
With his suggestion, I will add the Tier section to make things a lot helpful. It will be between the ability and stat sections. I will also link to previous reviews to make things a lot convenient in the section below. They will be listed alphabetically. Oh, and not to mention that this is also the first time I added the News Section :P.

Alakazam: http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,136801.html (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,136801.html)
Arcanine: http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,137912.html (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,137912.html)
Blaziken: http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,152761.html (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,152761.html)
Dusknoir: http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,136354.html (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,136354.html)
Feraligatr: http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,153726.html (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,153726.html)
Gallade: http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,152525.html (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,152525.html)
Gyarados: http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,148526.html (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,148526.html)
Milotic: http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,151952.html (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,151952.html)
Salamence: http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,148086.html (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,148086.html)
Umbreon: http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,136212.html (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,136212.html)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on August 07, 2009, 04:03:24 pm
I was just asking if it was a possible sub.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on August 07, 2009, 04:06:40 pm
It's possible, but it'd be pointless to have. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on August 07, 2009, 05:46:14 pm
I should do Meganium so that Blade won't yell at me for not doing it.  :P

I guess I will do him tomorrow, if things go well.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on August 07, 2009, 09:15:04 pm
I fail to understand Battle Hall strategy. D=

If anyone feels like explaining it (The official guide doesn't make much sense), that'd be nice. For reference, I'm using the classic PhysVire set, with it's 13 super effective type advantages.

/Edit: Scratch that. After playing it a bit, I've figured it out. I'm up to a 30-win streak. ^_^

//Edit: Had to forfeit my streak at 31. Dang hax Shedinja. >_>
Gonna try the Arcade out.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on August 08, 2009, 08:31:41 am
Arcade was pretty easy to get silver print(well, actually, all were easy to get silver, except factory, which is pretty hard sometimes).

For aracade I'd say if there's nothing that benefits you, aim for a null or board effect.

And for Hall you used Electivire w/
Earthquake
Ice Punch
Thunder Punch
Cross Chop?

I guess Shedinja is a problem... Use a Breloom to win :P
Mach Punch
Seed Bomb
Facade
Spore/Swords Dance

Item should be Toxic Orb, and ability should be Poison heal. If you last longer than one turn you begin to heal, and if you start with Spore you should be set to go. Facade doubles in power after Toxic Orb, and Mach Punch gets rid of Breloom's sub-par speed. Seed Bomb is there for STAB and for hitting water, ground and slow rock types. Only problem with this set is ghosts, who will eat you for lunch. As long as you stay away from them you're good.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on August 08, 2009, 10:11:44 am
@DB-SERIOUSLY?!? The same thing happened to me a few days ago. Darn you Shedinja.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on August 08, 2009, 11:02:29 am
For the Battle Hall, I'm not going to use an Electivire, after I found out a better set on Smogon:

Salamence:
Life Orb
Mild
84 Attack/216 Sp. Attack/208 Speed
~ Draco Meteor
~ Fire Blast/Flamethrower
~ Brick Break/Earthquake
~ Crunch/Outrage/Roost

Dragonite:
Life Orb
Mild/Rash
112 Attack/196 Sp. Attack/ 200 Speed
~ Draco Meteor
~ Superpower
~ Flamethrower
~ Roost/Thunderbolt

These sets can "2HKO almost any Pokemon" in the game due to their high attack power. Also, Shedinja will no longer be walled, since it packs Fire moves.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on August 12, 2009, 07:55:57 am
What Electivire needs is to be passed Speed and Atk, fro, say Ninjask. He also needs better STAB, other than Thunderpunch...

Dragonite beats Salamance because he can use Supwerpower, right?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on August 12, 2009, 07:36:44 pm
Salamence
 
Dragonite
Has better Attack   Has better Defenses
Has better Speed    Has better movepool

Yeah.

MEGANIUM!!!

Type: GRASS
Ability: Overgrow - When this Pokemon has 1/3 HP remaining or less, its Grass move's power is increased by 50%
Tier:  UU
Stats:

HP         80
Atck       82
Def        100
Sp. Atck 83
Sp. Def   100
Speed    80

Author's Opinion: In my opinion, this is a decent Bulky Grass type. It has Aromatherapy, as well as Synthesis and Sunny Day, which makes a good combination. And this is probably the first time I will make fun of Blade, since he likes this Pokemon. Maybe my joke isn't that funny at all, but I think I emphasized how much Blade likes Meganium. And Blade, if you are reading this, please don't take any offense in this, and I can edit them out if you want. plz don't de-rep me D=

Omega Blademan: This is like, the best grass type ever in the second generation, k? Besides, its GREEN. Who doesn't like green? Green is like the best color ever. I think this Pokemon should be in the OU tier, but its placed in UU D=.  

Recommended Movesets:

Nature: Bold/Calm
Item: Leftovers
EVs: 216 HP/148 Defense/144 Sp. Attack
~ Energy Ball
~ Aromatherapy
~ Light Screen/Reflect/Substitute
~ Leech Seed

This is one of the most annoying sets to your opponent. Aromatherapy Support helps cure your burns, sleeps, and paralyzes on sweepers. Energy Ball for a grass move, and Light Screen and Reflect are options depending what your team is more vulnerable to. Leech Seed is a plain annoying move, especially paired with Leftovers and Substitute, which gives you 3/16 HP every turn, near close to making another Substitute and stall the opponent.


Nature: Adamant
Item: Salac Berry
EVs: 252 Attack/4 Def/252 Speed
~ Swords Dance
~ Substitute
~ Flail
~ Seed Bomb

Substitute until you have a measly portion of HP left, which activates the Berry, and Flail for a 200 Base Power Attack. If you can get a Swords Dance up, 400 Base Power move right there.


Nature: Bold/Calm
Item: Leftovers/Heat Rock
EVs: 252 HP/148 Defense/144 Sp. Attack
~ Sunny Day
~ Solar Beam
~ Synthesis/Substitute
~ Leech Seed

The set I recommended for Blade at one point in PM while I was thinking in the back of my head. Use Solar Beam since you are using Sunny Day. Synthesis recovers all its HP. You can also aid Leech Seed stalling with Substitute.  

Omega Blademan:  Colorful sets =O

Countering Meganium:
Beware Sleetix, Probopass, as well as Aggron for the Physical variants. They can wall you, and Steelix can Roar your Swords Dance away. Oh, and don't forget Skarmory and Forretress in OU play. And Empoleon too.

Ice types can use Ice Shard or Ice Beam to do heavy damage. Abomasnow can cancel out Sunny Day sets and hit with 100% accurate Blizzard.

Any Pokemon with high Special defense that isn't weak to grass can wall the Support set.

Shedinja can wall it completely, and so can Drifblim, thanks to its high HP.

Omega Blademan: nuuuuuuuuu Hax Shedinja >_>.

(http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr213/B_T_Energized/Pokemon/Meganium_Sprite.png)

News and Improvements Section:
Hello, this is, uh, the news section.

August 7, 2009.
With his suggestion, I will add the Tier section to make things a lot helpful. It will be between the ability and stat sections. I will also link to previous reviews to make things a lot convenient in the section below. They will be listed alphabetically. Oh, and not to mention that this is also the first time I added the News Section :P.

August 11, 2009
Added separate section for the previous reviews.


Previous Reviews:
Alakazam: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,136801.html)
Arcanine: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,137912.html)
Blaziken: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,152761.html)
Dusknoir: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,136354.html)
Feraligatr: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,153726.html)
Gallade: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,152525.html)
Gyarados: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,148526.html)
Milotic: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,151952.html)
Salamence: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,148086.html)
Typhlosion: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,154326.html)
Umbreon: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,136212.html)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on August 13, 2009, 09:56:47 am
Battle Castle isn't as hard as I thought it would have been. Currently running that challenge.

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Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on August 13, 2009, 10:26:22 am
lol XD

I thought i voted for Pikachu to be president...=P

Well, i got a Shuckle, training it a bit. Man, that thing is a MONSTER in defense. I"m still getting a Dusknoir, however. I'm just concerned, as my friend is getting the Misdreveaus to let it inherit Pain Split of the GTS...Bad Egg...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: 0PureChaos0 on August 13, 2009, 10:26:38 am
I got the Member card right now. Darkrai, here I come!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on August 13, 2009, 01:53:16 pm
Give me a good OU...

OMG SKARMORY!!!

Type: STEEL/FLYING
Ability: Keen Eye - The Pokemon's accuracy cannot be lowered.
          Sturdy - OHKO moves will not work on this Pokemon.
Tier:  OU
Stats:

HP         65
Atck       80
Def        140
Sp. Atck 40
Sp. Def   70
Speed    70

Author's Opinion: This is one of the best Physical Walls in OU. He has Roost to recover damage, as well as access to Stealth Rock and Spikes. WhirlWind makes it a good Phazer. I'm considering using one on my team. :)


Recommended Movesets:

Nature: Impish
Item: Shed Shell/Leftovers
EVs: 252 HP/64 Attack/176 Defense/16 Speed
~ Drill Peck/Brave Bird
~ Spikes/Stealth Rock
~ Whirlwind
~ Roost

The most popular set for Skarmory is right here. Yes. Above you. Brave Bird gives Skarmory a good STAB, at the cost of HP. Drill Peck is the weaker alternative, but doesn't affect his HP. Spikes and Stealth Rock is an option for entry hazards, and Skarmory is one of the few good Spikes in OU. Stealth Rock is an option if you are having trouble with Salamence or Gyarados or anything that is weak to rock. Whirlwind is preferred over Roar, since there are rare cases of Baton Passing Soundproof Mr. Mime. Roost is there to recover HP. Keen Eye is preferred, as OHKO moves are banned.

Your choice of items is up to you: Shed Shell or Leftovers. Shed Shell helps you flee from Probopass and Magnezone, while Leftovers lasts you a little longer.  


Countering Skarmory:
Magnezone and Probopass are Skarmory's worst nightmares, as their Magnet Pull ability can trap you if you do not have Shed Shell equipped. they can now proceed to Taunt you or hit with Thunderbolts for the OHKO.  

Special sweepers with Fire or Electric moves moves should have no problem taking it down. Heatran resists all its STAB moves and hit back with its Fire moves.

Stat uppers can hurt Skarmory badly if Skarmory can't Whirlwind them away.

(http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr213/B_T_Energized/Pokemon/Skarmory_Sprite.png)


News and Improvements Section:
Hello, this is, uh, the news section.

August 7, 2009.
With his suggestion, I will add the Tier section to make things a lot helpful. It will be between the ability and stat sections. I will also link to previous reviews to make things a lot convenient in the section below. They will be listed alphabetically. Oh, and not to mention that this is also the first time I added the News Section :P.

August 11, 2009
Added separate section for the previous reviews.

August 12, 2009
Recolored Flying type.


Previous Reviews:
Alakazam: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,136801.html)
Arcanine: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,137912.html)
Blaziken: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,152761.html)
Dusknoir: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,136354.html)
Feraligatr: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,153726.html)
Gallade: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,152525.html)
Gyarados: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,148526.html)
Meganium: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,156646.html)
Milotic: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,151952.html)
Salamence: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,148086.html)
Typhlosion: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,154326.html)
Umbreon: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,136212.html)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on August 15, 2009, 10:05:36 am
Okay, since he has overlapping types, I might as well post a plan for my team(which has a weakness to fire, but due to Stealth Rock, fire type is not so common, but fire moves may still be, but whatever). Please add comments about it, and critisize it(but hel[pful critisism).

Scisor @Life Orb
Adamant Technician
4HP 252Atk 252Spe
-Bullet Punch
-Swords Dance
-Roost
-X-Scissor/Superpower
BP gets Technician, Life Orb and STAB boosts, making it my main atk, and also gets powered up by a Swords Dance. Roost recovers Life Orb recoil, while X-Scissor gets Stab, but Superpower hits harder.

Breloom @Toxic Orb
Adamant Poison Heal
EVs?
-Swords Dance
-Mach Punch
-Facade
-Seed Bomb
Stay alive one turn, then heal myself with Poison Heal(and T-Tar's Sandstream doesn't affect Breloom thanks to this). Mach Punch gets over his Speed, Facade becomes 140 Base Power, and Seed Bomb adds coverage and kills Swampert. Swords Dance boosts my atk.

Porygon-Z @item
Timid Adaptability
4HP 252SpAtk  252Spe
-Tri Attack
-Discharge/Dark Pulse
-Ice Beam/Substitue
-Nasty Plot
May switch for a Batton Passer. Tri Atk is my main move, while Ice Beam/Discharge mimics the BoltBeam, but with 30% chance of paralysis with a lower base power. Nasty Plot adds power.
I can also hide behind a substitute and power up with NP, then fire off Tri Atk or Dark Pulse to hit every type.

Lucario @Choice Scarf
Modest Steadfast
4HP 252SpAtk 252Spe
-Vaccum Wave
-Aura Sphere
-Dragon Pulse
-Dark Pulse
Special Sweeper. Hits hard and fast, and on weakened enemies Vaccum Wave kills them off. Most people expect Physical Lucario, so this takes them for 1 surprise hit. Dragon Pulse for Salamance and coverage, while Dark Pulse hits ghosts.

Tyranitar @item
Adamant Sandstream
EVs?
-Stone Edge
-Earthquake
-Crunch
-Pursuit/STealth Rock(if it learns that).
Powerful STAB moves + Earthquake make this a powerful pkmn. Lucario and Scisor are unnafected by sandstorm, and Breloom continues to recover in it. Last Moveslot is open for anything(possibly Stealth Rock(does it learn this?) if I lead with T-Tar). Pursuit kills pokemon if they switch, while Crunch hurts them if they stay it.

Dusknoir @Leftovers?
Nature Pressure
EVs?
-Pain Split
-Shadow Sneak
-Will O Wisp
-?
Kills all hopes for Physical Sweepers, and recovers off damage with Painsplit. Shadow Sneak hurts weakened pokemon.

So yeah, please add comments and constructive critisism. I would like suggestions for a Baton Passer(but not Smeargle, even though he learns BP and Ingrain. Ingrain might actually hurt my team if they are forced to stay in). Ninjask is a possibility, but he's frail.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on August 15, 2009, 10:28:01 am
AAGH! My darned laptop went back to the last page and lost my post, I have to it ALL OVER AGAIN!!!

We don't think type overlaps are always bad. And i reccomend using Houndoom for your 6th Pokemon-you didn't have one. Although it has some weakness overlaps, it adds a fire and dark type to the mix, effective for bringing down the Lake Trio, among others. Check out Serebii's 4th Gen. Pokemon of the week for a moveset.

@Sage-All i can say is, use Fire/Thunder Punch for your final move on Dusknoir.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on August 16, 2009, 09:41:03 am
Ok, I see.

*coughHeatrancough*

I've never trained a Scizor before....maybe I'll try training one this week.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on August 16, 2009, 11:42:37 am
I already have a trained Scizor.

Nature: Adamant
Items: Leftovers
EVs: 252 HP/252 Atck/4 Def.
~ Bullet Punch
~ Swords Dance
~ X-Scissor
~ Brick Break

B~T's Puzzle of the day!

 = My lead will be a certain Fighting type Pokemon who only knows Normal and Fighting type moves through Level up...

It will not have Stealth Rock...

It plays another role...

 = My sweeper is a stat boosting sweeper with a powerful move it knows naturally...

It is also my first EV Trained Pokemon...
 = My Stealth Rock/Tank/Mixed Sweeper Support will be a Bulky Water with an additional type...

 = My Physical wall was reviewed recently...

 = My Special Wall/Status Support is that of the Fairy Egg group...

 = My other Sweeper will be a popular Cresselia counter as well as a Pursuit user...

It is also the Monster Egg group...

 = But wait...

My other sweeper will also serve as a Rapid Spin blocker...

It has the highest Special Attack for that role...

= My other reserve sweeper has no set gender...



Good luck figuring who all my Wi-Fi Pokemon are. It's not like Blademan's "Special Surprises"...

Now what are the prizes for getting all 8 Pokemon right?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on August 16, 2009, 12:17:24 pm
Quote
@ZLS:  Go ahead and use Ninjask for a Baton Passer.  Your team is built around Physical Sweepers, so that would be beneficial. 

I notice you've put a lot of emphasis on Physical Sweepers.  Watch out for Burns and Physical Walls. 

And yes, Tyranitar learns Stealth Rock.  However, I think it's the best Pursuit killer in the game, so it's a questionable choice. 
Cool. I was also thinking a Gliscor with Sand Veil, if I lead with T-Tar. It learns Baton Pass and Swords Dance, which could be passed on, and also is protected in the sandstorm. The downside is that it doesn't pass speed, which is what Breloom and Scisor lack(though both posses Priority Moves)
If I use Ninjask it passs Speed for sure, and possibly atk. Is this a good set for Ninjask:

Ninjask @ Focus Sash
Jolly Speed Boost
252HP 4Def 252Spe
-Swords Dance
-Protect
-Baton Pass
-X-Scisor/Aerial Ace

Protect the first turn, which gives a speed boost, then swords dance the following turn, giving me +2 Speed and +2 Atk, which I pass on the 3rd turn. Focus Sash should protect me on the second turn, unless hail or sandstorm starts on the 1st turn. Or I can simply pass off +1 speed after 1 turn of protect.

If I use Gliscor I think the set would be:

Gliscor @ Item
Impish(I think, that's +Def -SpAtk right?) Sand Veil
EVs
-Swords Dance
-Baton Pass
-EQ
-Roost/Aerial Ace
1st 3 moves are standard. 4th move is between type coverage if he's in battle as a late Sweeper or recovery after being hit while passing stats. Not sure about EVs.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on August 16, 2009, 12:54:25 pm
http://www.smogon.com/smog/ou_metagame_analysis (http://www.smogon.com/smog/ou_metagame_analysis)

I'm too lazy to explain stuff to you now, but all I can say is that Tyranitar's use as a lead is declining due to the rise of Metagross and Jirachi.

And do you know the answers to my puzzle?  >:D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Solo Rogue on August 16, 2009, 01:52:10 pm
At Meganium Review:
xD Nice. xD I don't mind that. ... Don't ask why I'm using this. And that review was pretty funny. "Nuuu hax Shedinja D=" xD I prefer Bayleef, but Meganium's good too. =)

HG/SS: Epic this will be the best =O=O=O=O Read that as being all-caps, I don't like using them, even when it's what usually is used. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on August 16, 2009, 03:13:04 pm
I only review fully-evolved Pokemon...

Who should I review next:

Electivire?
Shedinja?
Or Blade's other favorite Pokemon?
(Bibarel) XD


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Solo Rogue on August 16, 2009, 03:15:49 pm
I know, I was just saying that I prefer Meganium. =P

Electivire, Shedinja's too cheap, and I'm pretty sure you've already reviewed Gallade. =P

Oh yes, Congrats on getting Wi-Fi Dudebot =D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on August 16, 2009, 03:21:49 pm
It's not Gallade.  :P

Highlight the bar underneath the "Or".
Plz o plz dont attack mah if you are offended!!! DX


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Solo Rogue on August 16, 2009, 03:51:46 pm
XD

I think that'd be Dudebot's favourite though. =P But...


Do it. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on August 16, 2009, 04:19:13 pm
No. I despise him from the depths of my soul, even though Smogon makes him seem useful. =D

Battle Video code for my silver match in teh Arcade: 63-77567-47477

Going for Castle Silver next. I've been pwning that place, though, so I should have no problems. ^_^


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Solo Rogue on August 16, 2009, 04:24:27 pm
That's why I said he was your favourite... Oh wait, I forgot the </sarcasm> tag. =P

Finally caught Darkrai today. He fainted me the first time around today, but I grabbed my Staraptor and finally caught him after a few hundred different balls.

Did I mention that HG/SS looks epicly awesome and will be the best game ever? =)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on August 16, 2009, 04:38:33 pm
Of course you did. =P

Sweet.

I can't think of a time when you haven't, Blade. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Solo Rogue on August 16, 2009, 04:43:36 pm
=P

Everything I see just maakes me like it more. Customizable Safari Zone? YES. Apricorns and the balls returning, along with a new use? YES. Wi-Fi events that unlocks new PokeWalker zones? YES. =D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on August 17, 2009, 02:14:07 am
I just got haxed at the Castle. I was winning... Then... Somehow... Darach killed me with his ub3r hax skillz. -_-

Battle Vid code: 34-16068-11231

Perhaps I shouldn't level up Darach's pokemon up 5 levels each... =/


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on August 17, 2009, 07:53:20 am
Probably not... I leveled his pokemon down 5 levels each I think... even though Houndoom, Staraptor and Empoleon aren't great pokemon they somehow are quite good together. I think I'm on the 5th or 6th round of the Battle Castle, although I've been skipping battles lately(the 7th battle usually, to ensure I win the round).

So, for my competitive team, should my Baton Passer be Ninjask or Gliscor?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Solo Rogue on August 17, 2009, 06:21:26 pm
Pallet Town looks pretty interesting...

New Pokemon Center and the updated Magnet Train looks epic. =D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on August 17, 2009, 06:38:36 pm
Say, do you have to wait to beat the game in HG/SS to go to Kanto?

And I'd reccomend Gliscor for the Baton Passer.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Solo Rogue on August 17, 2009, 06:43:10 pm
If it's anything like G/S/C, then yes, you'll have to wait.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on August 17, 2009, 06:47:44 pm
Darn.. I was hoping to get a few Kanto Pokemon if I could...I wonder if you can catch the Kanto starters in the wild for the first time? That would be cool.

*grunt* The Japanese are getting this game within the next 30 days, and we're getting it in Spring.

Anyone gonna get an imported one? *looks at him*


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Solo Rogue on August 17, 2009, 06:52:13 pm
1. While it would be epicly awesome, I'm not sure if they would, since them being rare is one of the 'charms' of them to some people.

2. I might, but since it apparently is between getting English or Japanese, so perhaps, but probably only if I can get both languages. And it's 24 days and counting. =)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on August 17, 2009, 06:55:34 pm
Agh!!! 24 days! **** game translators!

I wonder if Heracross will be caught via headbutting trees...?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Solo Rogue on August 17, 2009, 07:05:27 pm
1. It's a complicated language with lots of text in the game. ;)

2. DO we even know if the Headbutt trees are back...? =/ *WAit... Goes to look on Serebii quickly*


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on August 17, 2009, 07:11:59 pm
I think teh trees are back...I can't quite remember though...

Off TOpic:Get to CTAM, we made a new comedy series involving a LOT of food.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Solo Rogue on August 17, 2009, 07:22:11 pm
1. I don't remember seeing them in any of the videos, but with any luck they'll be back... Or all trees will be Headbuttable =D

2. I probably will, eventually.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on August 17, 2009, 07:33:06 pm
Quote
B~T's Puzzle of the day!

 = My lead will be a certain Fighting type Pokemon who only knows Normal and Fighting type moves through Level up...

It will not have Stealth Rock...

It plays another role...

 = My Physical sweeper is a stat boosting sweeper with a powerful move it knows naturally...

It is also my first EV Trained Pokemon...

 = My Stealth Rock/Tank/Mixed Sweeper Support will be a Bulky Water with an additional type...

 = My Physical wall was reviewed recently...

 = My Special Wall/Status Support is that of the Fairy Egg group...

 = My other Physical Sweeper will be a popular Cresselia counter as well as a Pursuit user...

It is also the Monster Egg group...

 = But wait...

My other sweeper will also serve as a Rapid Spin blocker...

It has the highest Special Attack for that role...

= My other reserve sweeper has no set gender and learns Trick Room by level up...

= If a certain Pokemon conbination is banned, then my other Special wall is Toxic Spiker as well as a Spinner...

It is, of course, a Poison type.

All my Pokemon are listed as OU...

Good luck figuring who all my Wi-Fi Pokemon are. It's not like Blademan's "Special Surprises"...

Now what are the prizes for getting all 9 Pokemon right?

Anybody care to solve?  ???

For all of you people that want the answers...
Machamp, Dragonite (probably replaced with Salamence), Swampert, Skarmory, Blissey (haha ima skrmblss n00b =D), Tyranitar, Gengar, Porygon-Z, Tentacruel


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Solo Rogue on August 17, 2009, 07:38:04 pm
I'll guess tomorrow. And my Wi-FI team isn't really that hard to figure out. =P There's a few that have been mentioned recently.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on August 17, 2009, 08:53:42 pm
Quote
B~T's Puzzle of the day!

 = My lead will be a certain Fighting type Pokemon who only knows Normal and Fighting type moves through Level up...

It will not have Stealth Rock...

It plays another role...

 = My Physical sweeper is a stat boosting sweeper with a powerful move it knows naturally...

It is also my first EV Trained Pokemon...

 = My Stealth Rock/Tank/Mixed Sweeper Support will be a Bulky Water with an additional type...

 = My Physical wall was reviewed recently...

 = My Special Wall/Status Support is that of the Fairy Egg group...

 = My other Physical Sweeper will be a popular Cresselia counter as well as a Pursuit user...

It is also the Monster Egg group...

 = But wait...

My other sweeper will also serve as a Rapid Spin blocker...

It has the highest Special Attack for that role...

= My other reserve sweeper has no set gender and learns Trick Room by level up...

= If a certain Pokemon conbination is banned, then my other Special wall is Toxic Spiker as well as a Spinner...

It is, of course, a Poison type.

All my Pokemon are listed as OU...

Good luck figuring who all my Wi-Fi Pokemon are. It's not like Blademan's "Special Surprises"...

Now what are the prizes for getting all 9 Pokemon right?

Anybody care to solve?  ???

For all of you people that want the answers...
Machamp, Dragonite (probably replaced with Salamence), Swampert, Skarmory, Blissey (haha ima skrmblss n00b =D), Tyranitar, Gengar, Porygon-Z, Tentacruel
Well, I was going to guess, but I just wasn't quite enthusiastic enough to do it. I got your first one and 3rd one right in my original guesses though, and I only guessed the first 5.

I've decided I'm going to fully train a Scizor. It'll be my first Pokemon with fullEV training and made for competitive battle.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on August 18, 2009, 04:51:34 pm
Give me another good OU...

OMG AERODACTYL

Type: ROCK/FLYING
Ability: Pressure - Moves that do damage towards the Pokemon lose 2 PP instead of one
          Rock Head - Nullifies Recoil damage when using Recoil moves.
Tier:  OU
Stats:

HP         80
Atck       105
Def        65
Sp. Atck 60
Sp. Def   75
Speed    130

Author's Opinion: The reason Aerodactyl is very popular is because of its 130 Base Speed, only outsped by Electrode, Ninjask, and Deoxys-S. It fills in the unique role as a Suicide Lead, where it sets up Stealth Rock as fast as it can. However, the introduction of the Choice Scarf allowed Pokemon with average Speed to literally outspeed it. The Choice Band set is still vianle for use. Even with that factored in, it still does its job with ease.


Recommended Movesets:

Nature: Jolly
Ability: Pressure
Item: Focus Sash
EVs: 4 HP/252 Attack/252 Speed
~ Taunt
~ Stealth Rock
~ Stone Edge/Rock Slide
~ Earthquake/Ice Fang

Aerodactyl's 130 Speed lets it outspeed many leads. Taunt prevents other leads from setting up Stealth Rock, and Stealth Rock, for, um..., you know. You have a choice between Attacks. Stone Edge and Earthquake for a good combination, or Ice Fang to deal with Gliscor, Salamence, and Flygon. Rock Slide is an option to abuse the 30% flinch rate.

Focus Sash lets it live for two turns on most cases, so you can Taunt and Stealth Rock up if you are faster than the opponent.


Nature: Jolly
Ability: Pressure
Item: Focus Sash
EVs: 4 HP/252 Attack/252 Speed
~ Stone Edge/Rock Slide
~ Earthquake
~ Aqua Tail
~ Pursuit/Fire Fang

Stone Edge/Rock Slide for STAB, Earthquake for Steels, Aqua Tail gets rid of bulky Ground Types, such as Donphan and Rhyperior, but requires prior damage. Pursuit gets rid of Pokemon that have poor defenses, such as Gengar. Fire Fang is also an option if Bronzong, Forretress, and Scizor is a problem. Note that Aerodactyl must use Fire Fang when Scizor switches in, otherwise if Aerodactyl stays, Scizor can Bullet Punch for the OHKO.

Countering Aerodactyl:
Swampert can wall Aerodactyl efficiently and hit back with its Water moves to take advantage of its measly defenses.

Bulky Ground types can wall it with the exception of Aqua Tail and on Gliscor's case, Ice Fang.

Bulky Waters as well as Cresselia can wall all of its attacks.  

Scizor can switch in on a non-Fire move and Bullet Punch for the OHKO. Bronzong can Gyro Ball for the OHKO, but be careful about any Fire moves it packs.
 
Stealth Rock can hinder its lifespan, so you can use it to your advantage.

(http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr213/B_T_Energized/Pokemon/Aerodactyl_Sprite.png)
 

News and Improvements Section:
Hello, this is, uh, the news section.

August 7, 2009.
With his suggestion, I will add the Tier section to make things a lot helpful. It will be between the ability and stat sections. I will also link to previous reviews to make things a lot convenient in the section below. They will be listed alphabetically. Oh, and not to mention that this is also the first time I added the News Section :P.

August 11, 2009
Added separate section for the previous reviews.

August 12, 2009
Recolored Flying type.


Previous Reviews:
Alakazam: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,136801.html)
Arcanine: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,137912.html)
Blaziken: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,152761.html)
Dusknoir: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,136354.html)
Feraligatr: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,153726.html)
Gallade: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,152525.html)
Gyarados: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,148526.html)
Meganium: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,156646.html)
Milotic: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,151952.html)
Salamence: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,148086.html)
Skarmory: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,157008.html)
Typhlosion: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,154326.html)
Umbreon: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,136212.html)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on August 18, 2009, 06:25:57 pm
Odd news of the day: My cat, Picasso, now answers when called by the name "Pikachu".  Story at 11.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Solo Rogue on August 18, 2009, 06:29:22 pm
Well that's different. xP

Who here IV trains?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on August 18, 2009, 06:32:32 pm
I IV train.

I'm lifeless.  :P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Solo Rogue on August 18, 2009, 06:34:02 pm
=P Would you recommend it for me?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on August 18, 2009, 06:41:05 pm
Yes, it is better you do so.

Not to mention that one of your Chimchar has 1 IV for Speed.  :P

It can play a big role in battling.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Solo Rogue on August 18, 2009, 06:45:36 pm
=P I think I need to get more Dittos. =P 'specially if I'm to get the other members of my team finished.

And, here's two of my competitive team: Infernape, Gallade. I need to wait 'til I get back to remember the rest ^^;


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on August 18, 2009, 06:48:09 pm
Competitive Team:
~ Machamp
~ Dragonite/Salamence
~ Skarmory/Gliscor
~ Blissey/Tentacruel
~ Swampert
~ Gengar/Porygon-Z/Rotom-A/Scizor/Tyranitar

Still in construction. *beepbeepbeep*


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Solo Rogue on August 18, 2009, 06:50:10 pm
You can use different Rotom Forms over Wi-Fi...?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on August 18, 2009, 06:52:38 pm
Yep. Rotom Forms are not banned in Competitive play.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Solo Rogue on August 18, 2009, 06:55:03 pm
Well at least there's one form that's not kicked back to the original in Wireless. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on August 18, 2009, 07:17:45 pm
Maybe I should IV train my Scizor...I'm going the whole nine yards with that thing. the tricky part is getting a Jolly one with Technician. Just my luck, I already have a Scizor with A Jolly nature...and Swarm =P ='( XD

Do a Scizor Review B~T. Nowz! =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on August 18, 2009, 08:28:33 pm
I personally prefer as well as highly recommend Adamant Scizor, since its Speed is already low...

I already have an IV Trained Scizor...

Be jealous  >:D .


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Solo Rogue on August 18, 2009, 08:32:36 pm
So, provided my battery doesn't die on me, I should be on Wi-Fi soon, for those of you who have my Plat FC. And if you want a fight, please allow at least 2 of a certain... tier of Pokemon... I want to show off my newest addition.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on August 18, 2009, 08:33:37 pm
Since I do not have my DS with me at the moment, please show me you team.  ;D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on August 18, 2009, 08:39:20 pm
@B~T-I am jealous. I'm going to train my Scizor as a Scyther for a while though, so it's Speed won't lag.

Has anyone ever named their rival an expletive? Or something insulting? In SS I'll name my Rival "An Idiot". "An Idiot is looking for you.";"An Idiot would like to battle." XD XD XD


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Solo Rogue on August 18, 2009, 08:39:50 pm
Well, currently, since Dudebot so nicely asked, I have...

Torterra, Luxray, Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, and a mystery Pokemon that I'll reveal after my battle with him. =)

Twilight: xD at the An Idiot thing* =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on August 18, 2009, 08:45:07 pm
@B~T-I am jealous. I'm going to train my Scizor as a Scyther for a while though, so it's Speed won't lag.

Has anyone ever named their rival an expletive? Or something insulting? In SS I'll name my Rival "An Idiot". "An Idiot is looking for you.";"An Idiot would like to battle." XD XD XD

Reminds me of the name given to the rival in Super Effective...

*Does not post name here for fear of getting banned*


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on August 18, 2009, 08:47:04 pm
Lol at the idiot thing. I believe my one friend named "Green" something fun to kick. =P

You're going down, Blade. >=D =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Solo Rogue on August 18, 2009, 08:49:16 pm
Dudebot: xD

Okay then. Is it opposite day then? >=D

Also, this mystery Pokemon will give you a nightmare of a time. Once we're connected though, I'm getting off here for tonight.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on August 18, 2009, 08:51:45 pm
Yeah, the name of that rival in Super Effective is

*gets hit by football in groin*

As I was saying, it is

*anvil falls on me*

Something tells me I should keep quiet about that...

I'm wondering who my second competitivly trained Pokemon will be, probably another OU PKMN.

@DB and SR- XP *makes mental note to keep you two away from each other*


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on August 18, 2009, 08:54:27 pm
Off-topic, yes, but...could someone post in CTAM?  I seem to have killed it...

On topic: Echoes plays Platinum, and he'll have Wi-fi once he finishes his move, so...

*grumbles about losing the game cart*


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Solo Rogue on August 18, 2009, 08:54:36 pm
... ^^; I accidentally fulfilled Dudebot's prophecy... I ran from him because I forgot to turn off VC. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on August 18, 2009, 08:56:04 pm
I had to post a Video anyway, so it's cool. =P

My videos so far:
Battle Arcade Silver Win - 63-77567-47477
Battle Castle Silver Fail - 34-16068-11231
Battle Castle Silver Win - 23-05957-00051
Battle Tower Silver Win - 79-75220-43134

Currently I've defeated half of Blade's team and only lost two of my own. ^_^


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Solo Rogue on August 18, 2009, 08:58:42 pm
So that's where you went. xP


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on August 18, 2009, 09:04:03 pm
Hey Dudebot, Blade, please post your D/P/Pt FCs here please.

And your mystery Pokemon is Darkrai, isn't it?  :P

I just loo..

Never mind. >___>

And what is the video code?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on August 18, 2009, 09:14:03 pm
Video codes are above, B~T. ;)

Honestly, I never thought Blade'd be this easy to beat. I've beaten the Dragon Trio, Darkrai, and Torterra with 5 Pokemon. And I just 2HKO'd his Luxray. ^_^

I never even used Empoleon. =P
But I wasn't fast enough to save a video. >_>

...And now we're at it again. =P
I would remind Blade about Smogon's sleeper clause, but I really don't care right now. xD


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on August 18, 2009, 09:26:32 pm
Oh man, I can't use my Manaphy =P

Can we have the General rules? Like, is there a level max, or can we just raise the all to 100?

I think there should be a private Child Board for Tournaments. It could also be for tournaments of other games.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on August 18, 2009, 09:28:54 pm
Also add:
Evasion Clause: Pokemon shall have no moves that lower opponent's accuracy or have evasion moves.
OHKO Move Clause: Pokemon will not have OHKO Moves (Guillotine, Fissure, etc.)
Item Clause: No Two of the user's own Pokemon will hold the same Item
Pokemon Clause (sp?): The user's team will not have the same Pokemon.

Any more I have forgotten?

Oh, and don't abuse Garchomp peoplez =P

@DT - If you are battling in Wi-Fi, then there is no need to level them up to Lvl. 100, since it will automatically adjust to 100 in Battle.

 


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on August 18, 2009, 09:34:01 pm
Looks nice. I'd approve of the sub-board. =D

Just pwned Blade again, and I gots a vid this time. ^_^
Now I gotta do it again. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on August 18, 2009, 09:35:08 pm
i probably won't participate, i lost my good diamond that had all of my good pokémon... but i would recomend no of those cheap level F.E.A.R pokémon. read this http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/FEAR if you dont know what it is. it is a pain.

also i would allow the evaision moves.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on August 18, 2009, 09:38:46 pm
Looks nice. I'd approve of the sub-board. =D

Just pwned Blade again, and I gots a vid this time. ^_^
Now I gotta do it again. =P

Hey, I pwned Blade like 9 times  :P.

And are you gonna tell me your FC?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on August 18, 2009, 09:40:45 pm
Yeah, later. Too busy pwning the Dragon Trio with Togekiss. =P

Speaking of which, my Paraflinch is obnoxious. xD

/Edit: Somehow I always beat Blade using only 5 Pokemon. xD

//Edit: Kaze vs Dudebot 2: 88-74443-22486


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on August 18, 2009, 11:14:55 pm
I have an idea for the MLNO Pokemon Battling Contest.

Instead of using Wi-Fi, which is a problem for some members, how about we base it on forum posts, like MLN Nex Gen. Problem is, it will take extremely long, and it hampers prediction. This can be solved if there is a judge where the players PM the moves to the judge, and we have damage calculators at our disposal. All the Pokemon that are entering have 31 IVs in all their stats, and the players can put EVs on whatever stat. They can also do the Natures, Abilities, and items and stuff.

Damage Calculator: http://www.metalkid.info/pokemon/OnlineProgram/Calculators/DamageDP.aspx (http://www.metalkid.info/pokemon/OnlineProgram/Calculators/DamageDP.aspx)

For critical hits: Someone puts #s 1 through 16 in a bag. Shuffle. If the #16 is chosen, then it is a critical hit.

Pokemon with Super Luck, or using a High-Critical Hit move, or used Focus Energy, or holding Razor Claw/Scope Lens, or has Lansat Berry used up: #8 and #16 are CH.
Combination of two CH Boosters:  4, 8, 12, 16
Combination of three CH Boosters: 1,4,8,12,16
Combination of four CH Boosters: 1,2,4,6,8,12,14,16

Flinch: Depending on move, randomly pick #1, 2, 3 or #1, 2. Kings Rock = #1

Do the same for the effects of moves (Water Pulse Confusion, Outrage Confusion, etc.)

The judges role is to determine which Pokemon goes first, determine the damage output, and post it in the battle topic.

Its complicated, but it will work.  :)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on August 19, 2009, 07:49:09 am
i learned how obnoxious it was the hard way :p. what i think we should do is vote for which ubers are allowed. it is more fair.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on August 19, 2009, 09:09:25 am
@BT: There are Random Number Generators on the interwebz, but as he said, it would be long and tedious to do, and it wouldn't be exactly the same as a real battle. How many people have wi-fi that are participating?

@Dudebot:what is your team that is beating Blade's?

and for that person that wanted a Scizor moveset:
Scizor @Life Orb
Adamant Technician
4HP 252Atk 252Speed
-Bullet Punch
-Swords Dance
-Roost
-X-Scissor/Superpower/Pursuit

Swords Dance early on, and then BP on anything that doesn't resist it. BP becomes a 60Base Power move after Technician, and with STAB and Life Orb it becomes monstrously powerful, and its priority, so a low speed doesn't affect you too much. Roost keeps you alive longer, since Life Orb chips away at your HP, and X-Scissor, Superpower and Pursuit are there for coverage, depending on what your trying to hit. You can always change Superpower for Brickbreak if you don't like your attack being lowered.
You can also switch your item to Choice Band and get rid of Swords Dance for a 3rd attack, so your moveset would be:
-BP
-U turn
-Superpower
-Pursuit
You won't lock yourself into Swords Dance or Roost, so now you have 4 attacks. U turn switches you out of bad situations, but can be subbed for a more powerful X-Scissor if you want to stay in. BP is still your main move.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on August 19, 2009, 09:39:49 am
@B~T: That sounds like the Pokemon RPG me and Blade have yet to finish, almost. =P

I'd enstate Sleep and Freese clauses, too.

@Period: If Ub3rs were fair, then they'd be OU, not Ub3r. =P
No ub3rs, no exceptions.

@SH: The same team as always: The three final evolutions, Electivire, Togekiss, Weavile.
And it took all of them minus Empoleon to beat Blade's Dragon Trio, Darkrai, Luxray, and Torterra. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on August 19, 2009, 11:22:21 am
DB: nice. Why does Blade us Luxray? and that means your battle spans across 3 tiers. How is it that YOU managed to win though(he has 4 Ubers and 2 UU, and you've got 5 OU and 1 UU).

I wish I had Wi-Fi, then I could battle you guys(and probably beat Blade, although who knows...)



Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on August 19, 2009, 11:34:27 am
@SH - His Pokemon were EV Trained, but Blade's...

I do not know...  ::)

I pretty much pwned him in all of my 9 battles with my Dragonite.  :)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on August 19, 2009, 11:40:21 am
For my second competitive team Pokemon, I can't decide between Salamence or Dragonite.

B~T, do a Dragonite Review NAO! =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Solo Rogue on August 19, 2009, 04:42:02 pm
DB Vid: Eh, I got the first one's vid, I'll upload it later. =)

DB Clause: It was either that, or spamming you with Faint Attack until Darkrai was defeated, I didn't have any other good moves on him... In fact, I haven't done anything with him since I caught him.

Harpuia: Yeah, it did I guess.(And he also asked to fight them =P) =P And he beat me mostly because a) he EV trained his Pokemon, while this was mostly my ingame team, which I use for leveling stuff up. =P b) Paraflinch is annoying. ;_; Ah well. =P

B~T: Yeah, that sums it up just about. =P

DT: I'm using Salamence if I remember right, so...

Tourney: Give me a little while. Is there going to be a time limit for matches? Also, maybe Dudebot could make the subforum of this for me, as a test of that.

FC: 4125-0887-2432 <- Mine. I'll upload the video in a bit.

Vid no. 96-00890-70357 <- Dudebot vs. Blade Battle 1

*Is watching Dudebot's Tycoon fight* Man... Your Electivire got owned. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on August 19, 2009, 05:07:15 pm
Dudebot Clause??

What does it do in Competitive play? =P

I really need to accomplish something in Platinum... >_<

My decisions for the Pokemon review of tomorrow are:
~ Electivire
~ Bibarel (*stares at Blade and Dudebot*)
~ Swampert
~ Lucario
~ Scizor

Now peoples...
Vote, even if there aren't enough people. I personally prefer doing Lucario, but that's my opinion. 


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Solo Rogue on August 19, 2009, 05:11:30 pm
*Finished watching the vid I mentioned in my last edit* You owned Palmer with Empoleon. =P

B~T: I think it's a 'No using ParaFlinch' clause. =P Nah, I was meaning how he referenced the Sleep Clause to me. =P

... DO A BIBAREL! ... =P Then Electivire. =P

I just uploaded a shot of my complete box filled with National Dex Numbers 31-60. ^^


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on August 19, 2009, 05:25:33 pm
review bibarel :p don't you just copy and paste from smogon?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Solo Rogue on August 19, 2009, 05:27:22 pm
If he did, he wouldn't've had that add-on from the Meganium Review. ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on August 19, 2009, 05:28:23 pm
@Blade1: I know. D=

@Blade2: I know =D

...

Just do a Bibarel review so Blade'll be happy and I can claw my eyes out. :)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Solo Rogue on August 19, 2009, 05:30:57 pm
=P Well, that'd be interesting to see. =P ... Battle again? =P I'm switching out Luxray for another Uber though. xP

/EDIT: Wait, hang on, I'm gonna swap out Torterra instead... You'll see why. >=D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on August 19, 2009, 05:32:50 pm
i don't know where my ds is, my other diamond needs darkrai.

maybe i will enter the tournament with all NUs.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on August 19, 2009, 05:35:29 pm
Can't, Blade. Gotta mow the lawn, and at 8 I'm moving away from my Wi-fi source. D=

Probably tomorrow afternoon. =D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Solo Rogue on August 19, 2009, 05:36:16 pm
1. D=

2. ... Wait what?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on August 19, 2009, 06:01:50 pm
@B~T-do a Lucario Review!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on August 19, 2009, 06:21:27 pm
BIBAREL Here we go.

Type: NORMAL/WATER
Ability: Unaware - This ability ignores the opponent's status boosts.
          Simple - When the Pokemon's stats are raised, the stat boosts are raised twice the amount.
Tier:  NU/UU
Stats:

HP         79
Atck       85
Def        60
Sp. Atck 55
Sp. Def   60
Speed    71

Author's Opinion: Heeeeey... Blade and Dudebot requested it, so I will poke fun at them.

Anyways, although its stats aren't that great aside from an average Attack Stat, it is still an annoying Pokemon, especially since it has Curse and Super Fang, and speaking of Super Fang, if your name is not Dusknoir or any Ghost Pokemon, be cautious when you switch. And Unaware and Simple are plain annoying abilities for the opponent. I, regrettably, have to resort to Smogon for this, since it is one of the Pokemon that I do not know well.

Omega Blademan: OOOOoooooOOOOOOoooooooOOOOOO. .. THIS IS LIEK MAH FAVORITE POKEMON (Well, next to Gallade) AND I'M LIEKING IT =DDDDDDD.
Dudebot: GGGGGRRRRRAAAAAAAUUUUUUUGGGGG GHH. DIS THING GETS ON MAH NERVES. ARRRRRGHHHH...
Omega Blademan:  Hey, how come you get BOLD and I do not?!?! I want BOLDBOLDBOLD!!!111!!!
Dudebot: How come you got colerz and I doesntz!?!?
Writer: Stop it. You are detracting from my review.


Recommended Movesets:
Omega Blademan:  *Looks it up from Smogon and puts it down here*
Nature: Careful
Ability: Unaware
Item: Leftovers
EVs: 252 HP/160 Defense/96 Sp. Defense
~ Taunt
~ Super Fang
~ Waterfall
~ Yawn/Swagger/Thunder Wave

Omega Blademan:  Okay children, this is the most annoying set int the history of Pokemon. You Taunt to prevent being set up on, and Super Fang makes walls bye bye, and Waterfall is just... there for STAB. Yawn shuts down many walls, Swagger plus Unaware makes a Ub3r combo, and Thunder Wave is to set up for ur slowr sweeperz.

Dudebot: GGGGGRRRRRAAAAAAAUUUUUUUGGGGG GHH

Omega Blademan:  Speaking of Super Fang, I am so lovin' that move  :).


Countering Bibarel:

Writer: NOW. It's my turn.
Switching in to Bibarel is a pain, due to Super Fang, but once you have your counter on the field, it is easy to make Bibarel flee.

Lanturn can hit with Thunderbolts, but beware Super Fang.

Any Grass Type move can wreck Bibarel. Just beware of Super Fang, again.

Ghost Types wall Bibarel with ease, so all it can do is status. Rotom-A can wreak havoc with STAB Thunderbolts, and so can Gengar.
Dusknoir can wall it very well since it could care less with Thunder Wave.

Dudebot: GGGGGRRRRRAAAAAAAUUUUUUUGGGGG GHH
Omega Blademan:  You know, I was a lot better off if I not knew the counters... >_>

(http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr213/B_T_Energized/Pokemon/Bibarel_Sprite.png)


News and Improvements Section:
Hello, this is, uh, the news section.

August 7, 2009.
With his suggestion, I will add the Tier section to make things a lot helpful. It will be between the ability and stat sections. I will also link to previous reviews to make things a lot convenient in the section below. They will be listed alphabetically. Oh, and not to mention that this is also the first time I added the News Section :P.

August 11, 2009
Added separate section for the previous reviews.

August 12, 2009
Recolored Flying type.


Previous Reviews:
Aerodactyl: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,159071.html)
Alakazam: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,136801.html)
Arcanine: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,137912.html)
Blaziken: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,152761.html)
Dusknoir: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,136354.html)
Feraligatr: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,153726.html)
Gallade: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,152525.html)
Gyarados: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,148526.html)
Meganium: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,156646.html)
Milotic: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,151952.html)
Salamence: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,148086.html)
Skarmory: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,157008.html)
Typhlosion: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,154326.html)
Umbreon: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,136212.html)

Dudebot: GGGGGRRRRRAAAAAAAUUUUUUUGGGGG GHH


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on August 19, 2009, 06:21:56 pm
@Blade: I mean we could Wi-fi battle tomorrow. Unless you get back on in the next half hour, I can't battle today. D=

B~T: Very nice review. :)

*Claws eyes out*


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Solo Rogue on August 19, 2009, 06:42:07 pm
DB: I'm ready whenever you are, but I meant the moving away part; that confused me.

B~T: I actually am loving Super Fang... Mostly because it helped me catch Darkrai easily.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on August 19, 2009, 06:44:46 pm
Alright, getting on now... You record our first battle, and I'll do the second. If we get that far. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Solo Rogue on August 19, 2009, 06:49:27 pm
Getting there now. And that seems good. You forgot to turn off VC. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on August 19, 2009, 06:53:43 pm
You would use Garchomp. ::)

And I messed up with that Wood Hammer. >_<


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Solo Rogue on August 19, 2009, 06:58:06 pm
Still took out Luxray. =P

Sorry 'bout spacing out there. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on August 19, 2009, 07:00:12 pm
Yeah, it took you long enough. =P

Sorry for OHKOing your Garchomp and Giratina. =P

Just owned Blade with FOUR pokemon. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Solo Rogue on August 19, 2009, 07:21:46 pm
Yeah, that was interesting. I got the first one.

I took out over half Dudebot's team I think. ^^ ... And got OHKO'd by Weavile ^^;(C'mon Dialga...)

=O I got Dudebot down to his last Pokemon with Dialga's Roar of Time... But got defeated by Empoleon's Ice Beam because I had to recharge. If I had've been able to redo it though, I would have won I think. =O(And my team had a weakness to Ice mostly. Since 5 of them were Dragons and all.)

Video no.: 93-86274-41422 -- Kaze vs. Dudebot Round 2: Battle 1.

Dudebot, tell me you saved that vid please. =)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on August 19, 2009, 08:40:01 pm
Yep; watching it now. I dare say, though, Blade, you almost had me that time. If it weren't for Empoleon killing Dialga when he did, I'd have lost. =O

I think my best move was when I was facing your Garchomp with Togekiss. Switching for a 1 HP Electvire for the easy-switch to Weavile for the OHKO was ingenious, no? =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Solo Rogue on August 19, 2009, 08:51:47 pm
Yeah, 'specially since my Luxray was already gone. I was wondering what you were up to then. =P And yeah, that was close...

I may have new ideas for our next fight though.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on August 19, 2009, 09:00:39 pm
*grunt*

I needz wi-fi NAO =(

Well, I got my Adamant Technician Scythet after two and a half hours of breeding =O I musta hatched 25 Scyther O_o
One of them was Adamant with Swarm -_- ...

Now, to get a Metal Coat from a wild Bronzong-guess who already used the two you don't get from Pokemon...=/ =( O_O


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on August 19, 2009, 09:17:40 pm
If you have a wireless router, then you can easily get Wi-fi. Just switch the security type to WEP. My cousin went to collage for computer stuffs; he says that the type is irrelevant as long as you have some kind of security. If someone really wanted in, they could hack it regardless.

If you lack the router, however, you'll need one. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on August 19, 2009, 11:17:21 pm
If nobody has any complaints, I can go ahead and make the usergroup/board for the competition and make him a mod there, so he can get his stuff set up. :)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on August 20, 2009, 07:23:42 am
Quote
@Period:  What kinds of Ubers were you wanting?  Because Ubers are banned for a reason.  I don't intend on allowing them. 

I would like everyone to understand that no particular strategies will be banned (FEAR, ParaFlinch, etc.).  I'm talking about Clauses, but that's it.  No particular strategy is off limits, partly due to the fact that it's hard to control.  I'll make it clear what isn't allowed, and call stuff out by name later.
Groudon, Kyogre, and wynaut.

This is maybe the best NU BL combo, Stallrein and leech seed Abomasnow. also imo the spinner is Forretress because it is a great spiker also.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on August 20, 2009, 07:37:10 am
I'm to lazy to train any pokemon... so far I have only 3 of my competitive team fully EV trained, and I still need to evolve my Scyther. And get wi-fi if I want to join teh tourney...

and BT: do a Scizor or Gliscor review next(we've already seen the classic EQ, IcePunce, ThundrPunch, CrossChop Electivire many times).

EDIT: I just tried out Shoddy Battle for the first time, and my record is 1-3 (I need to rethink my strategy a bit). Maybe make a new team or revamp my current team. Dusknoir is not doing a very good job at tanking, or whatever he was supposed to be doing(probably because I didn't put EQ on him). Ninjask as a Baton Passer is great, although usually he makes 1 appearence and then dies because of SR. T-Tar is probably my most used Pokemon, and I count on him to lead my team with Sandstream and Stone Edge. Breloom is an absolute beats when Ninjask passes him an atk and speed boost(nearly OHKOing a Rotom Fire with Seedbomb).
Lucario and Scizor do their job well, but when a Heatran enters, 3 of my team cower in fear, and I've only got 1 EQ user(porbably gonna switch Dusknoir for Gliscor).



Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on August 20, 2009, 08:55:10 am
*agrees with SH*

Well, my Metal Coat hunting has been unsucessful so far, but I'll find it eventually...

EDIT-@DB-Well, first of all, I have a router, but it has WPA and my dad refuses to change it -_-

And where is the sub-forum, and what is the usergroup to get in?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on August 20, 2009, 11:17:24 am
@ DT: Get a Pokemon with CompoundEyes. Pokeradar a Nincada in Eterna Forest, and raise it to level 15-ish. Give it a Smoke Ball. And then find a Bronzor, and it will have a better chance of holding a Metal Coat.

About Wi-Fi, you can also change the Transmission Rate to 1 or 2 (insert unit here).

@ Dudebot: Can I plzplzplzplzplzplzplz be a Mod on the Pokemon Sub-Forum too?  ;D

@ Period: Groundon and Kyogre have high Attack, Defense, and Special Attack,Sp. Defense stats respectively, as well as decent Speed and High HP.  For an OU Pokemon, they are hard to take down.

Wynaut is just a "watered down version of Wobbufett." as he says it.
It an utilize the same "cheap" moveset that goes:
~ Encore
~ Counter
~ Mirror Coat
~ Safeguard/Destiny Bond

Wobbuffet/Wynaut can Encore a move, and the opponent cannot flee due to Shadow Tag. If the move is an offensive one, then Wobbuffet/Wynaut can Counter/Mirror Coat it away depending on the move. Wobbuffet's/Wynaut's High HP and low defenses mean a definite KO on your opponents.  

Any more Ubers you think should be on the Championships?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on August 20, 2009, 11:37:24 am
mainly those, no encore for wynaut


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on August 20, 2009, 12:05:37 pm
Ok, I got a Metal Coat from that room at the end of Iron Island... :)

Can I be a mod in the sub-forum too? I'm willing to wait until after i pass take the PMP.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on August 20, 2009, 12:12:22 pm
mainly those, no encore for wynaut

But you can still Destiny Bond trap your opponent.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on August 20, 2009, 01:07:00 pm
Ok, now all I need is a Life Orb, and I can get that from Stark Mountain, and I'm on my way!

Now, I'm going to use Dusknoir for my Staller/Tank/whatever, so  can you doo a review of him B~T? I could also use a suggestion or a good Special Sweeper.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on August 20, 2009, 01:22:12 pm
@ ddude: *cough* Here... (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,136354.html)*cough*

Special Sweepers:
Azelf
Togekiss
Alakazam
Porygon-Z
Gengar
Heatran *uh, you were proposing it for your team*
Zapdos
Lucario
Empoleon
Jolteon
Vaporeon
Latias (its in OU  ;))
Salamence
Rotom Formes, NOT THE ORIGINAL.
Dragonite (inferior to Salamence, but has Thunderbolt while Salamence can't)

I basically slashed out sweepers that had common weaknesses to the rest of your team, so that leaves you with Jolteon, Heatran, and Porygon-Z.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on August 20, 2009, 02:11:26 pm
Since I fail to see any negative feedback on the board, I'll go set it up. For anyone wanting to mod, ask him. He's running the contest, so he needs to be able to lock/sticky everything he needs to, like competition rules and the tourney list and whatnot.

If you have anyone you specifically want to help other than myself and Blade (We can mod everything, anyway), shoot me a PM.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on August 20, 2009, 02:15:06 pm
Oh, I'm overhauling my competitive team(again). I'm starting by training Scizor. Porygon-Z it is.

*EV trains Scyther* say, do items like Protein give 10 EVs, or 10 EPs?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on August 20, 2009, 02:23:43 pm
10 EV, but the only work up to 100 EVs. ;)

/Edit: I've made the board; anyone taking part post that you are after this post.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on August 20, 2009, 03:26:24 pm
were is the board?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on August 20, 2009, 04:28:36 pm
IT is private ;)

I would like to be allowed to see the board, I won't be participating in this year's tournament, but I will be in the next one. Or whichever one is the HG/SS one.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on August 20, 2009, 05:08:12 pm
Oh, I'm overhauling my competitive team(again).

What's going to be your competitive team?

And it's time for B~T's POKEMON REVIEWS!!! Since Twilight asked first...

DRAGONITE!!!

Type: DRAGON/FLYING
Ability: Inner Focus - This ability prevents flinching. However, it will not nullify Focus Punch flinches.
Tier:  OU
Stats:

HP         91
Atck       134
Def        95
Sp. Atck 100
Sp. Def   100
Speed    80

Author's Opinion: Many say that this Pokemo is completely inferior to Salamence. For the most part, it is true, but it has a few things Salamence does not have. It has higher Defenses, as well as access to Thunderbolt, Superpower, and Fire Punch. It also has Light Screen to reduce the damage from Ice Beam, which would otherwise OHKO Salamence.

Hey, this Pokemon is special to me, because it was the first IV Trained Pokemon I had captured. Yes, I EV Trained it and pwned Blade on Wi-Fi with it.

Recommended Movesets:
Nature: Adamant/Jolly
Item: Leftovers/Yache Berry
EVs: 4 HP/252 Attack/252 Speed
~ Dragon Dance
~ Outrage
~ Earthquake
~ Fire Punch

The Dragon Dancer that mimics Salamence with the exception of Fire Punch. Dragon Dance up, and sweep. Very deadly. N'uf said. Just that Dragonite gained Fire Punch.

Nature: Rash/Mild
Item: Life Orb
EVs: 112 Attack/196 Sp. Attack/200Speed
~ Superpower
~ Draco Meteor
~ Flamethrower/Fire Blast
~ Thunderbolt/Roost

This is what sets Dragonite from Salamence. Superpower gives it a better option and can deal more damage than Salamence's Brick Break. Draco Meteor can help bring down Physical Walls such as Swampert who is immune to Thunderbolt. Thunderbolt is also a good way to deal with Bulky Waters *stares at Gyarados*. Roost is an option as well.


Countering Dragonite:

Ice Beam will only 2HKO on most cases since it has higher Special Defense than Salamence, and can hit back with the preferred move or Dragon Dance up to sweep, thus it isn't a direct counter.

Swampert and other Bulky Waters can wall the Dragon Dance set and hit back with Ice Beam. Cresselia is the same case, but beware of repeated Outrages/Draco Meteor.

Ice Shard is the bane of Dragonite's existence, since it doesn't affect Dragon Dance. Weavile and Mamoswine are examples of good Ice Shard users, hitting on its weaker Defense. However, beware switching in on Fire Moves.

Skarmory can laugh off Dragonite's attacks not named Fire Blast and can Whirlwind boosts away.

Scizor can switch in to any non-Fire attack and KO a Dragonite at low health with Bullet Punch.

(http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr213/B_T_Energized/Pokemon/Dragonite_Sprite.png)


News and Improvements Section:
Hello, this is, uh, the news section.

August 7, 2009.
With his suggestion, I will add the Tier section to make things a lot helpful. It will be between the ability and stat sections. I will also link to previous reviews to make things a lot convenient in the section below. They will be listed alphabetically. Oh, and not to mention that this is also the first time I added the News Section :P.

August 11, 2009
Added separate section for the previous reviews.

August 12, 2009
Recolored Flying type.

August 20, 2009
Recolored Dragon type.


Previous Reviews:
Aerodactyl: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,159071.html)
Alakazam: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,136801.html)
Arcanine: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,137912.html)
Bibarel: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,159573.html)
Blaziken: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,152761.html)
Dusknoir: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,136354.html)
Feraligatr: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,153726.html)
Gallade: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,152525.html)
Gyarados: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,148526.html)
Meganium: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,156646.html)
Milotic: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,151952.html)
Salamence: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,148086.html)
Skarmory: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,157008.html)
Typhlosion: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,154326.html)
Umbreon: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,136212.html)



Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on August 20, 2009, 05:16:14 pm
I don't know what my team is yet, besides Scizor. I've decided to add Dragonite, as well. Next I'm adding a Tank to the mix, what's the difference betweem a Tank and a Staller? For my tank, I'm thinking Dusknoir or Swampert. Is either one a Tank, and if so, which should I go with?

For future reference, I'm going with one Pokemon at a time for my Comptetitive team. I haven't planned it out yet.

I can't find that Life Orb in Stark Mountain. Where is it??

Nice review B~T :)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on August 20, 2009, 05:34:21 pm
Life Orb can be found on Stark Mountain's exterior. ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on August 20, 2009, 05:35:17 pm
I thought the Life Orb is in Route 225...
O wait... That's D/P, I think.

Tank - A Pokemon that can take hits as well as attack back.

Staller - A Pokemon that uses Status Moves (Toxic) to "stall" the opponent.

Dusknoir and Swampert are okay choices, both have their advantages, but Sage Harpuia says that Dusknoir doesn't do his job as he was meant to do.

If you need Stealth Rock support, go with Swampert...

Once I get my DS, I will breed for a good Dragon Dance Salamence...  
I have a Bagon with 31 IVs in Attack and 28 in Speed as well as 22 in HP...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on August 20, 2009, 11:20:35 pm
Sept. 15? That's when B:TLR comes out. =O
That just makes that day that much more epic. =P

These are all the people that currently have access to the competition board:
Period
B~T
Darth T.
Dudebot5000
Blade/Solo
Sage H.

If you are planning on participating/watching and I haven't listed your name, let me know.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on August 21, 2009, 07:35:52 am
Currently battling in the Uber tier on Shoddy, since I never get the chance to play with any Ubers ingame... nyone else playing on Shoddy?

Dusknoir has great defences, but I agree that it's not great, because its slow and it has low HP, which basically nullifies its defences. And it lacks a STAB which could help with tanking abilities.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on August 21, 2009, 08:14:14 am
ANd Scribblenauts comes out the 15th =O

OH wait, I'm not participating.

Ok, I"ll start planning...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on August 21, 2009, 10:48:16 am
I've come up with a pretty effective team for OU, and so far its done pretty well. It still has a few weaknesses, but here it is:
Jirachi
Tyranitar
Latias
Lucario
Scizor
Togekiss

Jirachi and Scizor are the main sweepers on this team, and even though they share a steel type, Steel isn't resisted by too much, and they can hit pretty hard(especially if Scizor gets in a Swords Dance or 2). Tyranitar doesn't really sweep much, he's more there to add an infinite Sandstorm, which is resisted by 4 members of my team(including T-Tar). Latias is there to pack a big punch with Draco Meteor, and can also take a few hits. Lucario and Togekiss are backup sweepers; Lucario has a Scarf, so he hits fast, and because he's a Special Sweeper, he surprises many people and usually gets a KO. Togekiss uses the infamous ParaFlinch, which hurts a lot of people. She doesn't often get a KO, but she hurts a few pokemon, making it easier for Jirachi and Scizor to hit.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on August 21, 2009, 10:59:59 am
Nice team. But how'd you get Jirachi?

WEll, so far in my planning for new new (that's not a typo) competitive team, I have-

Scizor
Dragonite
Jolteon/Porygon-Z (after doing some thinking I may need to consider Jolteon a bit more)
Swampert

What's nice is that I'm not overlapping any weaknesses and getting a good moveset mix. I'm adding a physical fire type next....*slaps face* Infernape, duh! Although I wouldn't count Blazekin out yet-although he is somewhat inferior to Infernape, he was my starter in Emerald, my favorite Pokemon game, and I have something of an attachment to him.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on August 21, 2009, 11:21:51 am
@Sage - Your team looks nice, but 4 of your team members have trouble with Nasty Plot Infernape, and it is famous for breaking down walls.

I really need to work on my actual team... -___-

I need more time...

Machamp
Salamence
Skarmory/Gliscor
Blissey/Tentacruel
Starmie
Gengar/Swampert/Porygon-Z



Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on August 21, 2009, 11:37:46 am
Do a Swampert review B~T. NAO. =P

I'm gonna take a wild guess and say you've done one already, I just didn't see it.

Alrighty, Infernape and Azelf will be part of my team. (azelf will be my lead because I tought it stealth rock-I can't afford a lead w/o Stealth Rock)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on August 21, 2009, 11:52:16 am
@DT: I'm playing on Shoddy Battle, a simulator, so I have access to every pokemon, and all of their moves. That's how I'm using Jirachi(and I love that pokemon so much. It beat an entire team with Serene Grace boosted Iron Head(I got a flicnh nearly every time, and when I didn't the other person used stat boosting moves and SR)).

@BT: Yes, most fire types give me trouble(Jirachi, Scizor, Lucario are weak to fire, and Tyranitar is weak to fighting, which is basically Mix-Ape).

This is the Jirachi that I'm using:
-Iron Head
-U Turn
-Stealth Rock
-Dynamic Punch (must change this; it is great if it hits, but being locked into this is not good)
Carries Choice Scarf, allowing it to outspeed a lot of leads.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on August 21, 2009, 11:54:50 am
OIC.

Now, who should my sixth Pokemon be...maybe a staller....Snorlax? Rest-berry wakes him up-recycle-rest-lather-rinse-repeat =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on August 21, 2009, 12:09:22 pm
This is the Jirachi that I'm using:
-Iron Head
-U Turn
-Stealth Rock
-Dynamic Punch (must change this; it is great if it hits, but being locked into this is not good)
Carries Choice Scarf, allowing it to outspeed a lot of leads.

Why Dynamic Punch? It only has 50% accuracy, and its a LEAD, so it doesn't need as much moves.

I looked up Smogon, and you should replace it with Trick, so you can swap your opponent's items to slower Pokemon, shutting down their usefulness.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on August 21, 2009, 12:29:54 pm
I find Scarf to be quite useful on my Jirachi, so I'm not gonna trick it away. And my Jirachi is not a normal lead. Yes, its the first thing to pop out in the battle, but my team has no true lead. Usually I U-turn myself out on the first move, getting Focus Sash users to crumble beneath me, and if an Alakazam or Azelf appears, I hit them hard too. Also, most people expect SR to be set up by Jirachi, but that doesn't happen often. Iron Head kills Aerodactyl leads, because it is either a OHKO, or if there's a Focus Sash, I have 60% flinch, and then hit them on the 2nd turn.

But I do agree that D-Punch needs to go.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on August 21, 2009, 04:33:01 pm
I haz nat dex in plat! w00t!

maybe i will enter the tournament...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 21, 2009, 04:45:58 pm
... Hey, you know what I realized? As long as people get their competitive team ready in Plat and such, and can connect to D/P/Pt, People can participate in the tournament with an imported HeartGold/SoulSilver game. =O Since it comes out on the 12th. ... All depends on HG/SS not blocking stuff like in FR/LG of course >_>


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on August 21, 2009, 04:53:13 pm
We're only allowed to use Plat?

I was planning on using Diamond... -_-

And what about HG/SS that makes everyone able to connect?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on August 21, 2009, 04:55:22 pm
I think Blade just assumed everyone was using Plat B~T ;)

I think the next tournament has HG/SS as a requirement though. SS FTW!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on August 21, 2009, 04:57:37 pm
tbh it probably will be like fr/lg for connecting with D/P.

would this be a good torterra? It is aimed to be a tank

Nature: Sassy

Item: leftovers

Evs: 252 Sp def, 252 def, 6 hp

Moves:

Leech seed
Earthquake
Seed Bomb
Synthesis/Crunch


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 21, 2009, 04:59:49 pm
I was just assuming/using the latest as a model as that's my main version now. =P I so wish I could get HG/SS in Japanese. =P Even if I can't understand a word.(Yay for the new bag layout allowing me to know what's what. =P)

And I dunno if it's be a requirement, but it will for the official tourney next year.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on August 21, 2009, 05:03:16 pm
Hey, do you think Pal Park will show up in HG/SS?

I'm glad they're adding the mobile berry-grower. I'm too lazy to keep track of berrys most of the time =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 21, 2009, 05:06:32 pm
There's no room though; unless they use the empty Safari Zone in Kanto... I think they're trying to get away from the GBA games, which is why they included Groudon, Kyogre, and Rayquaza.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on August 21, 2009, 05:07:09 pm
would this be a good torterra? It is aimed to be a tank

Nature: Sassy

Item: leftovers

Evs: 252 Sp def, 252 def, 6 hp

Moves:

Leech seed
Earthquake
Seed Bomb
Synthesis/Crunch
May i please have advice?

HG/SS info may be on bulbapedia serebi or smogon. some one there may know japanese ???


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 21, 2009, 05:11:59 pm
Meh. Someone'll have a walkthrough eventually, and until then I'd just wander blindly through the game... Shouldn't be too hard, right? =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on August 21, 2009, 05:13:47 pm
Tank: A Pokemon designed to take hits as well as fight back.

Sassy? Change to Impish, since his Sp. Attack Stat is lower than his Attack.

(courtesy of Smogon below)
EVs: 212 HP/252 Defense/44 Speed

Why this thing does not have Attack EVs is beyond me, but "Wood Hammer and Earthquake still do plenty of damage, despite the lack of Attack EVs"

Seed Bomb? Wood Hammer is better. Torterra has a lot of HP to take recoil damage. Stone Edge can also be an option to replace Earthquake, but Earthquake is more preferred IMO. Crunch is very weak compared to its other attacks...

According to him, even a Super Effective hit from Crunch is still weaker than its other moves.

And Synthesis and Leech Seed together is rather redundant. Just replace it with Protect or Stealth Rock.


I think they're trying to get away from the GBA games, which is why they included Groudon, Kyogre, and Rayquaza.

I was actually thinking about that XD.

@Darth Twilight - Once, I was growing EV Reducing Berries for Scizor, and I watered regularly, and I got 5 berries from each plant ^_^


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 21, 2009, 05:22:13 pm
A lot of people were B~T, a lot of people were.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on August 21, 2009, 05:28:55 pm
WAIT. There better be Kanto/Hoenn starters in 4th Gen...

Otherwise late game players are screwed when completing the Pokedex... >_>

They should make Kanto/Hoenn remakes in the 5th Gen...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 21, 2009, 05:46:00 pm
That'd be the third time for Kanto though... And I wouldn't put it past them... Remember Emerald?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on August 21, 2009, 05:49:12 pm
Yes I remember Emerald...

What about it?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 21, 2009, 05:51:52 pm
*Points at the Johto Starters after completing the Pokedex*


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on August 21, 2009, 05:54:05 pm
Which would mean that Johto Starters would be obtainable in 5th Gen...  ;D

And even if Johto Starters would be tradable from 4th Gen to 5th Gen, then GameFreak would decide not to implement it into the Hoenn remakes...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on August 21, 2009, 06:06:58 pm
He said that FR/LG/R/S/E remakes, if they were to happen, would be rather far off.

I say, if they remake Emerald, they could keep the Battle Frontier, but make it less haxable. =O


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on August 21, 2009, 06:16:21 pm
O wait.

I think it contradicts to the storyline.

NVM.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 21, 2009, 06:17:15 pm
Except also adding the new facilities as well.

/EDIT: Contradicts?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on August 21, 2009, 06:18:54 pm
Wait...
What was the timeline for the "regions"...?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 21, 2009, 06:23:38 pm
R/S/E = R/G/B/FR/LG
G/S/C/HG/SS = D/P/Pt

That's just about been confirmed with Cynthia's appearance in HG/SS.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on August 21, 2009, 06:26:43 pm
Wait...

Ignore the fact that it was a contradiction...

And what did he mean that the remakes are going to be "far off"?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 21, 2009, 06:28:13 pm
Look how long it was before the GSC remakes.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on August 21, 2009, 06:30:20 pm
It took two generations.

For a FR/LG/R/S/E remake in the 5th Gen from the Third...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on August 21, 2009, 06:37:53 pm
I dunno about the timeline, though. In the video games, we sorta infrence the timeline as it is, but the manga timeline perfectly matches the game releases. =/

Manga: R/B/G -> Y -> G/S -> C -> R/S -> FR/LG -> E -> D/P -> Plat

I'm not fully sure there is a timeline n the games, other than G/S/C happens after R/B/G/Y. =/


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 21, 2009, 06:40:01 pm
D/P/Pt happens around the same time as HG/SS for sure. Cynthia's appearance is one reason.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on August 21, 2009, 06:45:24 pm
And if the manga states that G/S/C happened 3 years after R/B/Y, then D/P/Pt must have also happened 3 years after R/B/Y if it happened in G/S/C =O [/duh]

And don't even mention Jasmine in Sinnoh...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 21, 2009, 06:50:13 pm
Where she says she's from a faraway land. And the Manga's timeline doesn't follow the games'. If it did, the Pokedex holders would've been there quite a while.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on August 21, 2009, 07:02:00 pm
I haz an idea.
Since Rahkshi likes Pokemon, maybe we can let him participate in the tournament...?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 21, 2009, 07:03:02 pm
It all depends if he wants to. ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on August 21, 2009, 07:03:55 pm
So should I PM him?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 21, 2009, 07:08:07 pm
Sure, I guess.

/EDIT: Random guess, but has anyone noticed that in the video ads for Kyogre and Groudon being available in HeartGold and SoulSilver, they had new girl for the Kyogre fight, and Gold for the Groudon fight? What I figure may be is that the new girl is named Heart ingame or so, and Gold is renamed Soul, which that old pic of Elm's lab would back up, as it mentions that Soul, who is Gold in the pic, had made Elm wait.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on August 22, 2009, 10:26:00 am
Why do they name the chars after the versions? Like what kind of name is Silver/Gold? And Green? They should stick with Ash or something that is a name...

anywho, who's in the tournement so far?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 22, 2009, 10:33:46 am
1. Um, Gary/Ash and such is technically Anime Only... And hey, at least they are original. And Green'd sic his Pokemon(Like his Charizard =P) on you if he actually heard that =P(Green being RGB Rival) Plus there are some names that make sense(Crystal).

2. ... Not sure.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on August 22, 2009, 10:46:12 am
Yeah. What I don't get is how Pearl can be a dude's name =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 22, 2009, 10:57:23 am
I think we all wonder that. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on August 22, 2009, 12:50:21 pm
I wonder how Platinum is a name at all. =P

But in any case, it was the manga that made me hate Ruby (Male R/S char) from the depths of my soul. Like Bidoof/Bibarrel. :)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 22, 2009, 12:55:02 pm
Platina. ;)

=P He can be cool when he wants to be though. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on August 22, 2009, 01:18:25 pm
No, it's officially "Lady Platinum Berlitz." I never saw a "Platina" anywhere. ;)

http://www.serebii.net/manga/characters-new/platinum.shtml

Not too often, though. His non-manly side is way more evident. -_-


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 22, 2009, 01:22:02 pm
1. Oh. I'm sure I saw a Platina somewhere though...

2. True. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on August 22, 2009, 01:27:19 pm
1. Beats me.

I feel the urge to read some manga. What series should I re-read?

R/G/B // Y // G/S/C // R/S // FR/LG // E

D/P doesn't count, because it's not finished yet. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 22, 2009, 01:41:25 pm
FR/LG. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on August 22, 2009, 01:43:33 pm
Mewtwo/Deoxys, here I come. =P

I've been wanting to reread Emerald anyway, and this leads right into it. =D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on August 23, 2009, 10:53:02 am
I now have a timid synchronizer for darkrai/rotom. anyway here are the ids of battle videos. it is me vs my brother.

Video #1 23-05957-27491

Video #2 66-52221-29916


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on August 23, 2009, 06:49:09 pm
I lack in something to say... -_______________-

LUCARIO!!!!

Type: FIGHTING/STEEL
Ability: Inner Focus - This ability prevents flinching. However, it will not nullify Focus Punch flinches.
          Steadfast - When this Pokemon flinches, its Speed increases by one stage.
       Tier:  OU
Stats:

HP         70
Atck       110
Def        70
Sp. Atck 115
Sp. Def   70
Speed    90

Author's Opinion: This thing has a versatile movepool, but once one of its moves are revealed, it's whole movepool is discovered easily. Although it has average speed, it has Extremespeed and Vacuum Wave at its disposal. Overall, a good Pokemon.


Recommended Movesets:
Nature: Adamant/Jolly
Ability: Inner Focus
Item: Life Orb
EVs: 4 HP/252 Attack/252 Speed
~ Swords Dance
~ Close Combat
~ ExtremeSpeed
~ Stone Edge/Ice Punch/Crunch

Swords Dance up and sweep. Bai. WAIT. Stone Edge covers Salamence and Gyarados and does neutral to Gliscor, Lucario's worst enemy. If that is a problem, Ice Punch is an option. Crunch gets rid of the annoying walling Ghosts and Psychics.


Nature: Modest/Timid
Item: Choice Specs
EVs: 4 HP/252 Sp. Attack/252 Speed
~ Aura Sphere
~ Shadow Ball
~ Hidden Power (ROCK)/Hidden Power (ICE)
~ Vacuum Wave

Aura Sphere and Shadow Ball make an amazing combo, taking out the Psychics and Ghosts that wall it, and what's more is that it can get past physical walls amazingly. Hidden Power Rock for Gyarados and Salamence and a 2HKO on Gliscor with Stealth Rock factored in, and HP Ice dents Gliscor and Salamence badly, at the cost of Neutral damage on Gyarados.  

Vacuum Wave gets past its average Speed.

But this thing is walled by Blissey.


Countering Lucario:

There is no counter to both Physical and Special sets.

Physical: Gliscor can take on any Physical Set without Ice Punch and Earthquake for the OHKO.

Without Stone Edge, Gyarados can wall it.

Without Ice Punch or Stone Edge, be prepared to be decimated by Salamence.

Without Crunch, Cresselia, Rotom-A, and Dusknoir are examples of Pokemon that can wall it.

Special: Blissey can wall Special Lucario and set up with Thunder Wave to slow him down, or hit with Flamethrower or Seismic Toss. It can also heal off damage with Softboiled or Wish.

Spiritomb can wall it with ease since it is neutral to Shadow Ball. Gyarados can switch in on anything not Hidden Power Rock and hit back hard with its attacks.

Heatran can switch in and use its Fire moves or Earth Power to finish it.

Cresselia, Dusknoir, and any other bulky Psychics and Ghosts can wall it with ease. Beware Shadow Ball though.  

Magnezone can trap it and do 75% damage with Thunderbolt, but beware its Fighting Moves.

(http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr213/B_T_Energized/Pokemon/Lucario_Sprite.png)


News and Improvements Section:
Hello, this is, uh, the news section.

August 7, 2009.
With his suggestion, I will add the Tier section to make things a lot helpful. It will be between the ability and stat sections. I will also link to previous reviews to make things a lot convenient in the section below. They will be listed alphabetically. Oh, and not to mention that this is also the first time I added the News Section :P.

August 11, 2009
Added separate section for the previous reviews.

August 12, 2009
Recolored Flying type.

August 20, 2009
Recolored Dragon type.


Previous Reviews:
Aerodactyl: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,159071.html)
Alakazam: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,136801.html)
Arcanine: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,137912.html)
Bibarel: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,159573.html)
Blaziken: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,152761.html)
Dragonite: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,159813.html)
Dusknoir: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,136354.html)
Feraligatr: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,153726.html)
Gallade: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,152525.html)
Gyarados: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,148526.html)
Meganium: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,156646.html)
Milotic: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,151952.html)
Salamence: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,148086.html)
Skarmory: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,157008.html)
Typhlosion: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,154326.html)
Umbreon: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,136212.html)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on August 24, 2009, 04:47:34 pm
Hooray for the MLNO Pikmin tournaments! I've raised all my Pikmin to max power! =P

Is there any way I can help him?

*continues raising Scyther*


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on August 24, 2009, 09:18:01 pm
'k. And the Spring tournament will have a HG/SS theme, right?

I need a fast way to EV train my Scyther!! I'm doing attack right now, fishing around Lake Verity. That should help with Attack, but I need a quicker way for speed than Starly...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on August 25, 2009, 05:30:03 am
Hey, I just realised that my in-game name lacks a 5000; it doesn't fit. =P

A question of items. For both my Torterra (Phys Sweep) and my Togekiss (Paraflinch), Leftovers are recommended. However, if they were both to have leftovers, it'd break Item Clause. So my question is, who gets leftovers and what shold the other have?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Skullkeepa14 on August 25, 2009, 05:43:59 am
Maybe If U had it, give torterra an iron ball which makes flying pokemon not have the levitate ability so then u could use earthquake and pummel them. If U need me to explain this more. Just ask!!!! :-X


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on August 25, 2009, 05:53:41 am
Iron Ball only does that if the flying pokemon in question is holding it. ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Skullkeepa14 on August 25, 2009, 05:54:29 am
Have u tried it? ???


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Admiral-Ike on August 25, 2009, 06:02:25 am
I have Platinum and Diamond.  I have a Lv 100 latios,charizard,blissey,metagross,t-tar and lots of other pokemon. Anyone wanna battle me? PM if you do. Is there an MLNO pokemon tournament? If so, I would like to join!  ;D I'm a pretty good battler I know bout EV training.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on August 25, 2009, 07:56:08 am
@Dudebot: The Item Clause isn't in effect for the MLNO tourney, so both can use Leftovers.

@Admiral-Ike: There is a tourney. PM him to join :)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on August 25, 2009, 10:12:40 am
'k. And the Spring tournament will have a HG/SS theme, right?

I need a fast way to EV train my Scyther!! I'm doing attack right now, fishing around Lake Verity. That should help with Attack, but I need a quicker way for speed than Starly...
try trophy garden ;) it is how i am training my alazazam.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 25, 2009, 10:26:11 am
Quote
I would like to make it clear that besides GSC coming three years after RBY, and besides XD coming five years after Colloseum, there are no other confirmed timeline connections.  Anyone who says otherwise is basing this off of assumptions and fallacies.  The anime and manga are based off of the games, not the other way around.  Any other timeline comparisons are only fanbased speculation.  

I'm putting more work into the tournament when I can.  However, I'm very busy nowadays, considering I'm back in school with very tough classes, as well as marching band.  However, I'll get some more work done this week.
Except, D/P/Pt and HG/SS happening around the same time is generally confirmed with all the stuff, like Cynthia in HG/SS, and Jasmine in D/P/Pt, along with the Red Gyarados mentions in D/P/Pt. Granted, it's not 100%, but I expect that if Jasmine mysteriously disappears to Sinnoh, or says she's just returned or something, then it will be 100% confirmed. ;)

Sure, R/S/E still doesn't have a clear timeline place, thanks to no real hints, and the FR/LG and R/S/E thing is just a fan guess, but it would make sense as it doesn't require a Time Capsule or a Pal Park(Which is another way that D/P/Pt is similar to G/S/C's originals. It had a way to interact with the gen before it.) to trade between them... But that's speculation until more info.

And the only reason we brought up the manga is because it follows the actual release, unlike these games. So it was brought up to confirm the timeline wasn't the same. ;) And we all know the anime doesn't hold any credit timeline wise, I mean I don't think Ash has had a birthday yet, so that should tell you something there. =P


/EDIT: I just got hax'ed by Argenta. Of course she had to toss out Glaceon against my Garchomp that doesn't have the Ice blocking berry. And of course it has to faint me in one hit while I only take off like a third of it's HP. >_>


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on August 25, 2009, 04:21:41 pm
Is there an MLNO pokemon tournament? If so, I would like to join!  ;D I'm a pretty good battler I know bout EV training.

Sure. Make sure you have Wi-Fi access, which I'm pretty sure you have.

I haven't contributed to the Battle Frontier in Platinum... >_>








Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 25, 2009, 04:24:22 pm
I almost got hax'd by a ... That Preevolution of Weavile.

It was close, but I won barely, with only 2 HP remaining...

Only to get taken out like 3 battles or so later ><

I did get a vid of the battle, and will upload later/next I'm on.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on August 25, 2009, 04:37:09 pm
@Dudebot: The Item Clause isn't in effect for the MLNO tourney, so both can use Leftovers.
Reguardless, I want to follow it for future reference. Anyway, I'd only have one leftovers. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on August 25, 2009, 05:15:57 pm
Does anybody have a spare Stealth Rock TM I can use? Thanks.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on August 25, 2009, 05:18:25 pm
DB: 'k. Just so you know(in case you come across a second one). As he posted in the Tourney Rules topic, Item Clause is only used in Nintendo events for some reason or another. I usually run 2-3 Choice Scarfs on my team, so that my lead is faster than others, and so that Lucario can actually get a move in...

@Blade: You're using Garchomp and getting beaten by Sneasel?? Something is wrong with that... Which print are you going for? Try using a Breloom to win :P

@BT: Technically yes, but I have no wi-fi, so no, sorry :-\


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on August 25, 2009, 06:19:15 pm
...Well, my friend and I had a battle. IT was my Scizor vs. his Lucario. Each one was level 30. I got pwned...my darned Scizor lost like 1/4 of his speed when he leveled up. =/ I think my Scyther was actually stronger than my Scizor...

Alright, I found a compromise for my little lead Pokemon problem. I wasn't really that into Azelf...so I figured out a good replacement-a Tank Drapion with Toxic Spikes.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on August 25, 2009, 06:27:25 pm
Scizor's Speed is lower than Scyther's when it evolves. However, it can hold its own in battle more efficiently than Scyther as well as a massive Attack stat. Not to mention better typing.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on August 25, 2009, 06:44:23 pm
Bullet Punch + Swords Dance + Life Orb + Technician + STAB = The most powerful priority move in OU. Scizor is amazing. And if your Scizor also knows Superpower you should be able to beat Lucario unless it has HP Fire. Make your Scizor like this:

Scizor @Life Orb
Adamant Technician
4HP 252Atk 252 Speed
-Bullet Punch
-Superpower/Roost
-X-Scissor
-Swords Dance
Life Orb allows you to last max 10 turns without Roost, so Roost is a good choice, however Superpower gives you more coverage. X-Scissor is there for STAB, and BP gives okay coverage, but is Priority and with LO, SD, TEchnician it becomes a 180 Base Power move plus STAB ( i think I did that right, anywho, its strong). You should survive most physical attacks because of good Defence and great resistances, but fire kills you.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on August 25, 2009, 06:57:34 pm
Well, I was GOING to go with that, but for some reason my Life ORb is gone...so I'm doing that w/ Roost-Life Orb. My problem is, he's making the Lucario a Sp. Attacker, and I have weak-ish Sp. Def.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 26, 2009, 09:59:47 am
@Blade: You're using Garchomp and getting beaten by Sneasel?? Something is wrong with that... Which print are you going for? Try using a Breloom to win :P
Hey, Ice is 4x effective on Garchomp... >_> But I said I beat him...

Only to getting trashed by like the evo of Spheal a few battles later, right before I was about to finally complete Ice. T_T Something tells me I need to train a new Garchomp...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on August 26, 2009, 10:09:08 am
=P

^_^ According to Serebii, headtbutt trees ARE coming back!

Alright, Tank/Lead Drapion it is for me. Here's the setup:

Drapion

Leftovers-Battle Armor-Impish

Taunt
Toxic Spikes
Crunch
Knock Off

EVs
252 HP
6 Atk
252 Def

Improvements ar welcomed.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 26, 2009, 12:36:08 pm
Yeah it seems like it, and it seems it's all trees. And really, it makes sense, because from what I see of in-game pics, half the trees in it are Headbutt Trees, so why not make all of them in the remakes the same? ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on August 26, 2009, 01:35:03 pm
It said now ALL of the trees appear to be headbutt-able.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 26, 2009, 04:34:51 pm
That's... What I just said. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on August 26, 2009, 04:36:19 pm
Oh. I misread it. =P

Someone give me a good OU Water type with a setup the doesn't require Leftovers. I only have one and it is really hard to get more.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on August 26, 2009, 05:17:37 pm
Gyarados, Starmie, Kingdra, Swampert, Tentacruel and Vaporeon would be OU water types that come to mind. But which one you use depends on what you want it for. Gya, Kingdra, Swampert would be good sweepers or leads, while Starmie is more for Rapid Spinning, although it can also sweep a bit. Tentacruel would be a T-Spike absorber and could set up T-Spikes for your own team, and with great SpDef it can wall a few things. Vaporeon is normally Wish Support, with excellent HP and SpAtk.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on August 26, 2009, 05:49:16 pm
Well, any Toxic Spiker is pretty much out of the picture, as my new lead/tank-Drapion (I figured out a loophole in my little Azelf situation) covers that. I'm leaning towards a Choice Band Swampert, as the best Sweeper option.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on August 26, 2009, 06:12:24 pm
DT i know you want drapion as a lead, but forreterres is a better option imho.

also bt can you review dugtrio?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on August 26, 2009, 06:53:07 pm
Nah, I'd prefer to stick with Drapion. I don't want to have two Pokemon with the same types. As you may have noticed, I'm making sure to use 1-weeakness Pokemon.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Skullkeepa14 on August 27, 2009, 06:55:08 am
Can u guys recommend me a pokemon team that consists of the basic 6 pokemon elements: Fire, Water, Grass, Electricity, and the other ones Plz? No suggestions r out of the question 0:)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on August 27, 2009, 08:40:27 am
I'm guessing you're going with OU right?
Fire: Heatran
Water: Gyarados
Grass: Celebi
Elec: Electivire
and two others. Those were just the first that come to mind. Gyarados can be used to lure in Elec moves, and when you think one is coming just switch in Electivire for a Speed Boost. Heatran is pretty powerful, and can be used as a lead. Celebi has aweful types, but is pretty bulkys and can assume multiple roles with 100 Base Stats across the boards.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on August 27, 2009, 09:58:16 am
@ dt: i know it overlaps, but it is an elite spiker/rocker/spinner. Also drapion can be taunted out of toxic spikes, and tokic spikes is very easy to deal with; you can send out a poison pokémon.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on August 27, 2009, 10:26:55 am
I'm passing. Plus I already used my only available Stealth Rock on Azelf...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Admiral-Ike on August 27, 2009, 01:45:24 pm
What do you think of this team?
Charzard
Metagross
Tyranitar
Blissey
Gengar
Lucario
Pretty much OU pokemon... All level 100. Should I change any pokemon?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on August 27, 2009, 01:50:27 pm
How did you get them all to level 100?

but your team leaves a bit to be desired...you overlap a lot of types, and you have 3 weaknesses to Fighting Types.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 27, 2009, 02:07:00 pm
What do you think of this team?
Charzard
Metagross
Tyranitar
Blissey
Gengar
Lucario
Pretty much OU pokemon... All level 100. Should I change any pokemon?
Replace Charizard with Infernape, Infernape gets a lot of good moves, and could be a lead.

Take out Tyran and replace him with Salamence.

What's the Gengar's role? What's Metagross' role?

Lucario, how's he going to be used?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on August 27, 2009, 03:06:42 pm
What do you think of this team?
Charzard
Metagross
Tyranitar
Blissey
Gengar
Lucario
Pretty much OU pokemon... All level 100. Should I change any pokemon?
i would replace lucario and maybe charzard, depending on how you use him. For an OU to replace him i would use a bulky gyrados, if you want a uu try a sub-seeder sceptile.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on August 27, 2009, 04:17:18 pm
I suppose I'll look into importing some leftovers from my Sapphire, along with my Kyogre (Just happened to be modest xD) and whatever others I feel like importing.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on August 27, 2009, 06:13:38 pm
What do you think of this team?
Charzard
Metagross
Tyranitar
Blissey
Gengar
Lucario
Pretty much OU pokemon... All level 100. Should I change any pokemon?
i would replace lucario and maybe charzard, depending on how you use him. For an OU to replace him i would use a bulky gyrados, if you want a uu try a sub-seeder sceptile.

Charizard loses 50% of its health when it switches into Stealth Rocks. That gives you a max of 4 times in(Lead, 2 SR damage, and 1 time at 1HP. That also assumes you aren't damaged by anything else, and if Tyranitar goes in you'll probably get Sandstorm Damage).
And please (this should be a rule) if you post a RMT have explanations for the purposes of each pokemon, as well as the EV spread, Nature, Item and Moveset.

@. :I'm pretty sure this is an OU team(other than Zard).


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on August 27, 2009, 09:55:02 pm
probably zls, but if he replaces charzard he may want a UU. and subseeders are very tough to deal with.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on August 28, 2009, 12:37:43 pm
 ::)

I am really starting to like Starmie when I battled Blade. Although it was built to be a Rapid Spinner *hinthint*, it saved me from a tight situation from Blade's Palkia's Spacial Rend. It also swept through Blade's Hoenn team, but that's because it was EV-Trained. It's also IV Trained after breeding for a better Starmie.  ;D [/bragtag]

I need to level Machamp more...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 28, 2009, 12:41:59 pm
I was sooooo close there. ;_; I saved the battle though, so I'll upload it later while I'm on.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on August 28, 2009, 05:13:05 pm
SCIZOR TIME.

Type: BUG/STEEL
Ability: Technician - Powers up move by 50% if they are at 60 Base Power or lower.
          Swarm - When the Pokemon has 1/3 of its HP Left or lower, its Bug type moves increase in power by 50%.
Tier:  OU
Stats:

HP         79
Atck       130
Def        100
Sp. Atck 55
Sp. Def   80
Speed    65

Author's Opinion: This is one of OU's best sweepers. It has a boosted Priority move (Bullet Punch), as well as only one weakness. In fact, it is a viable Pokemon to be used in the Uber tier. Not to mention Swords Dance, Roost, and Life Orb added in for a powerful sweeper.


Recommended Movesets:
Nature: Adamant
Ability: Technician
Item: Choice Band
EVs: 248 HP/252 Attack/8 Speed
       252 HP/252 Attack/4 Def
       252 HP/252 Attack/4 Speed
~ U-Turn
~ Bullet Punch
~ Superpower
~ Pursuit/Night Slash/Quick Attack

The Choice Band set for Scizor. Bullet Punch and Pursuit gets a boost from 40 to 60, and can cause massive damage. Quick Attack is there to hit hard on frail and fast Pokemon, such as Infernape and Jolteon.


Nature: Adamant
Ability: Technician
Item: Choice Band
EVs: 252 HP/252 Attack/4 Speed OR Defense
~ Swords Dance
~ Bullet Punch
~ Brick Break/Superpower
~ X-Scissor/Roost/Quick Attack

Swords Dance that sky-high attack of Scizor and sweep. Brick Break or Superpower is your choice - Superpower for extra power, but Brick Break is better for longer battles, since Superpower lowers your Defense and Attack. The last option is up to you, really.


Countering Scizor:

Rotom Formes, particularly Heat Form, can wreak havoc with Overheat and resists everything not named Pursuit or Night Slash.

Anything with a Fire type move can beat it in One or two hits. The est examples are Heatran, who resists all its moves, and Infernape.

Physical Walls can wall it, particularly Skarmory, Hippowdon, and Gliscor. Roaring or Whirlwinding it is only a temporary solution, since Skarmory w/ Brave Bird fails to 2HKO the bug. A Swords Danced Superpower can threaten to 2HKO Skarmory.

And the hax bug, Shedinja, can wall Scizor's attacks that aren't Dark-Typed.  

(http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr213/B_T_Energized/Pokemon/Scizor_Sprite.png)


News and Improvements Section:
Hello, this is, uh, the news section.

August 7, 2009.
With his suggestion, I will add the Tier section to make things a lot helpful. It will be between the ability and stat sections. I will also link to previous reviews to make things a lot convenient in the section below. They will be listed alphabetically. Oh, and not to mention that this is also the first time I added the News Section :P.

August 11, 2009
Added separate section for the previous reviews.

August 12, 2009
Recolored Flying type.

August 20, 2009
Recolored Dragon type.


Previous Reviews:
Aerodactyl: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,159071.html)
Alakazam: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,136801.html)
Arcanine: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,137912.html)
Blaziken: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,152761.html)
Dusknoir: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,136354.html)
Feraligatr: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,153726.html)
Gallade: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,152525.html)
Gyarados: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,148526.html)
Lucario: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,160949.html)
Meganium: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,156646.html)
Milotic: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,151952.html)
Salamence: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,148086.html)
Skarmory: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,157008.html)
Typhlosion: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,154326.html)
Umbreon: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,136212.html)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on August 28, 2009, 06:55:48 pm
*clap clap*

Nice, B~T.

Although I did something different. I gave it 224 Speed EVs to help it, and it has worked. Although it is still my 4th best stat out of six, it has been getting +4s in speed lately...

I've also discovered a great counter to a Swords Dance-Bullet Punch-Roost-X-scissor Scizor:Lucario. He can exspose Scizor's average Sp. Def, and resist all of his attacks. I learned the hard way. Although I had random moves, besides Roost. No real strategy. But he 2HKO'D me anyway. 0__0


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on August 28, 2009, 10:20:43 pm
Sounds good to me. Take all the time you need. :)

And before I forget, thank you for taking care for the competitive itself. =D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Skullkeepa14 on August 29, 2009, 01:14:12 am
My Pokemon Team is as Follows:

Top 3 Pokemon In Party

Sceptile

Moves: Frenzy Plant, Leaf Blade, Leaf Storm, Detect

Ability: Overgrow: Powers Up Grass-Type Moves In A Pinch.

*Base Stats Have Been Upgraded*

Stats: Hp: 300/300
Attack: 208
Defense 160
Sp.Atk: 241
Sp.Def: 176 (Yet to upgrade)
Speed: 322

Infernape

Ability: Blaze: Powers Up Fire-Type Moves In A Pinch.

 Moves: Overheat, Close Combat, Earthquake, Blast Burn

*Base Stats Have Been Upgraded*

Stats: Hp:290/290
Attack:217
Defense: 184
Sp.Atk:270
Sp.Def: 178 (Not Yet Upgraded)
Speed: 280

Blastoise

Moves: Hydro Pump, Skull Bash, Flash Cannon, Hydro Cannon

Ability: Torrent: Powers Up Water-Type Moves In A Pinch

*Base Stats Have Been Upgraded*

Stats: Hp:301/301
Attack: 202
Defense:250
Sp.Atk: 245
Sp.Def: 204 (not Yet Upgraded)
Speed:207

Remaining 3 Pokemon In Party:

Dragonite,
Garchomp,
Weavile,

Tell Me If There Are Any Things You Would Recommend???  :o




Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on August 29, 2009, 02:21:13 am
Why do I have the feeling of Deja-vu? Oh yeah, we've covered a lot of this stuff pages upon pages ago. =P

First of all, kill Frenzy Plant, Blast Burn, and Hydro Cannon. They may seem powerful, but they're horrible moves lining up with Hyper Beam, Giga Impact, Rock Wrecker, etc. You could deal more damage with a different move in two turns than you can with any of the above moves in it's one turn.

For example, I'll compare Blast Burn to Flare Blitz.

In one shot of Blast Burn, you have a base power of 150, not factoring in STAB and the like. Then you have one turn that you are simply a target.

With Flare Blitz, you deal out a base power of 120 each turn. Therefore, across the same two turns of Blast Burn, you can deal a total base power of 240.

See what I mean?

Second, I have no clue what you mean by "upgraded." Did you just max out each stat on vitamins or something? =/

Third, you NEVER place two or more attacking moves of the same type on the same Pokemon. I'm pointing this out on all of your Pokemon. However, due to the time of night, I don't feel like looking up recommended movesets ATM. *Yawn*


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Skullkeepa14 on August 29, 2009, 02:38:33 am
Why do I have the feeling of Deja-vu? Oh yeah, we've covered a lot of this stuff pages upon pages ago. =P

First of all, kill Frenzy Plant, Blast Burn, and Hydro Cannon. They may seem powerful, but they're horrible moves lining up with Hyper Beam, Giga Impact, Rock Wrecker, etc. You could deal more damage with a different move in two turns than you can with any of the above moves in it's one turn.

For example, I'll compare Blast Burn to Flare Blitz.

In one shot of Blast Burn, you have a base power of 150, not factoring in STAB and the like. Then you have one turn that you are simply a target.

With Flare Blitz, you deal out a base power of 120 each turn. Therefore, across the same two turns of Blast Burn, you can deal a total base power of 240.

See what I mean?

Second, I have no clue what you mean by "upgraded." Did you just max out each stat on vitamins or something? =/

Third, you NEVER place two or more attacking moves of the same type on the same Pokemon. I'm pointing this out on all of your Pokemon. However, due to the time of night, I don't feel like looking up recommended movesets ATM. *Yawn*
I use High powered moves such as Blast Burn Since I normally Knock out pokemon in 1 hit knock out.

With Flare Blitz You Sustain Recoil Damage.

But Good Point On  The Types of moves.

Upgraded means maxed out on Proteins and stuff. Wat is sp.def used for?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on August 29, 2009, 08:18:06 am
what if you are against the hax pokémon? you couldn't do anything with 2 of them.

also is your blastiose supposed to be a sweeper or tank? And if you are participating in the contest, you can't use garchomp.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 29, 2009, 08:59:53 am
Skull Skeepa, response to Dudebot: Blast Burn or such won't knock out the Pokemon on the first turn, and even then, when the opponent switches in, then it's toast if it's a good typing against yours.

Recoil damage doesn't matter. If it's supposed to be a sweeper, then as much damage as it can get in before it goes bye-bye the better... And resting moves don't help with that.

The stats aren't maxed out if you use ten vitamins... That's the vitamin limit. You can further train it by battling certain Pokemon, and it's called EV training. ;) And Sp. Def is essentially Defense against Special Attack. ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on August 29, 2009, 09:18:42 am
he didn't say maxed out. he maxing out vitamins. meaning 100 evs every where. also try using your skeptile as a sub-seeder.

the 1 pokémon that should use giga impact/blast burn/ any of those moves is slaking.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on August 29, 2009, 01:19:23 pm
True, there are exceptions, but at 3 AM, I was too lazy to think of them. =P

I am also available to ask to see the board. I also have control over membergroups. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on August 29, 2009, 01:50:28 pm
@Skullkeepa - Heed everyone's advice about Blast Burn, Frenzy Plant, and Hydro Cannon. I agree with them too. It only makes you easily revenge killed. And there are moves that can deal more overall damage. And why you have more than one of the same type moves is just beyond me. Leaf Storm and Energy Ball together is fine, but...

@DB - Usually Choice sets contain "Overheat"ish moves, since they switch out in play a lot, cancelling the effect of the moves. Then there is another move intended for longer play.

I feel like reviewing a Swampert. I'll do that now.

Does somebody have a spare Stealth Rock TM I can use, because I hate using up one-opportunity TMs... -____-

SWAMPERT

Type: WATER/GROUND
Ability: Torrent - When this Pokemon has 1/3 HP remaining or less, its Water move's power is increased by 50%
Tier:  OU
Stats:

HP         100
Atck       110
Def        90
Sp. Atck 85
Sp. Def   90
Speed    60

Author's Opinion: Swampert has excellent type distribution, having above average stats not named speed. Due to this, it was given the role of "Bulky Water". It only has one weakness, which is Grass.


Recommended Movesets:
Nature: Relaxed
Item: Leftovers
EVs: 240 HP/216 Defense/52 Sp Attack
~ Earthquake
~ Ice Beam
~ Surf/Hydro Pump
~ Stealth Rock/Toxic/Protect/Roar

So, why put Ice Beam instead of Ice Punch? Well, it can get past Walling Skarmory, which hits their lower Sp. Defense, and it isn't affected by Intimidate. Same gos for Surf and Hydro Pump. Hydro Pump can score a 2HKO on Skarmory and Weezing, two of its counters. Put Stealth Rock on if you do not have any other Pokemon with Stealth Rock. There are other options, like Protect, which scouts your opponent's moves. Roar can stop threats from setting up, but that's only temporary. Toxic can ruin its counters not named Weezing and ResTalk users.


Countering Swampert:

Anything with a Grass type move can stop it in its tracks, especially Grass Knot and Energy Ball.

Gyarados and Cresselia can wall Swampert, but if you are using Gyarados, beware Stone Edge on some variants.

Dusknoir is an example of a Ghost Type bulky enough to wall its attacks, and can throw Will-O-Wisp to hurt Physical variants.

Other Bulky Waters can pose a threat, as long as they have recovery moves. Examples are Milotic and Suicune.

Zapdos can wall its attacks, even Ice Beam, but it needs Hidden Power Grass to actually hurt it.

(http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr213/B_T_Energized/Pokemon/Swampert_Sprite.png)


News and Improvements Section:
Hello, this is, uh, the news section.

August 7, 2009.
With his suggestion, I will add the Tier section to make things a lot helpful. It will be between the ability and stat sections. I will also link to previous reviews to make things a lot convenient in the section below. They will be listed alphabetically. Oh, and not to mention that this is also the first time I added the News Section :P.

August 11, 2009
Added separate section for the previous reviews.

August 12, 2009
Recolored Flying type.

August 20, 2009
Recolored Dragon type.

August 29, 2009
Recolored Water Type.


Previous Reviews:
Aerodactyl: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,159071.html)
Alakazam: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,136801.html)
Arcanine: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,137912.html)
Blaziken: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,152761.html)
Dusknoir: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,136354.html)
Feraligatr: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,153726.html)
Gallade: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,152525.html)
Gyarados: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,148526.html)
Lucario: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,160949.html)
Meganium: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,156646.html)
Milotic: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,151952.html)
Salamence: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,148086.html)
Scizor: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,162555.html)
Skarmory: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,157008.html)
Typhlosion: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,154326.html)
Umbreon: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,136212.html)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on August 29, 2009, 03:15:13 pm
Nice. I'm working on a team for the Battle Tower, and guess what: I'm using Swampert!

Oh, and I figured out a way I can't believe I didn't see before to get Stealth Rock-simply get it from my Diamond Version, which I have really early in the game. I can just beat Roark, trade it in, new game, lather, rinse, repeat.. =P So Stealth Rock will be get-able. The dilema is now, do I go with forteress as my lead, which offers Toxic Spikes, Spikes AND Stelath rock, a DEADLY trio, but get two Pokemon with the same types (and thus the same weaknesses), or do I stick with Drapion?

EDIT:

Ok, I don't like overlapping types, BUT....I might as well, as he's an elite lead. So here's how it'll look:

Forrteress
Item:Leftovers
Nature:Relaxed


Toxic Spikes
Stealth Rock
Explosion
Rapid Spin

A nice Lead. He tosses out Toxic Spikes and Stealth Rock, which will slow down the enemy quite a bit. Immunity to Toxic Spikes will be a problem, but with Stealth Rock out there it'll be fine. Rapid spin will get rid of the opponent's Spikes variations, and Selfdestruct is just a last resort. As for EVs...

252 HP
104 Def (well, he does have massive defense as is =P)
152 Sp. Def ( I need to cover up teh shakey SP. Def)

Suggestions are welcomed. Although I may not take them. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on August 29, 2009, 09:42:45 pm
you may want to replace explosion with spikes... he is a great spiker/spinner you can spin out rocks/spikes if you are taunted. i think a great suicide lead counter.

is the tournament single or double battle?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on August 30, 2009, 03:24:48 am
I would imagine single battle, but it's really up to him. I've got a gut feeling it's single, though.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on August 30, 2009, 09:31:27 am
...I don't think I have Shed Shell. I guess I might.

Ok, I have a question-does Rapid Spin clear away ALL of the spikes on the field, or only the ones that have been set on me?

And he is right. He's pretty much a suicidal Spiker.

 I'm planning to use this team against Palmer for the Silver Print. I set up Toxic Spikes and Stealth Rock-Dragonite loses a chunck of his HP, and that Rhyperior gets poisoned, preferably badly. Scizor will Swords Dance-Bullet Punch to take care of Rhyperior, matching Rhyperior's high Defense with his MONSTER attack stat. And finally, Scizor will slow down Dragonite a little bit (too bad Dragonite's immune to Toxic Spikes =/
) and Swampert can handle the rest with Ice Beam/Punch (depending on which is available).

How does my strategy look? I think I'll keep Swampert's setup secret, just in case I use him competitively later.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on August 30, 2009, 12:25:52 pm
...I don't think I have Shed Shell. I guess I might.

Ok, I have a question-does Rapid Spin clear away ALL of the spikes on the field, or only the ones that have been set on me?

And he is right. He's pretty much a suicidal Spiker.

 I'm planning to use this team against Palmer for the Silver Print. I set up Toxic Spikes and Stealth Rock-Dragonite loses a chunck of his HP, and that Rhyperior gets poisoned, preferably badly. Scizor will Swords Dance-Bullet Punch to take care of Rhyperior, matching Rhyperior's high Defense with his MONSTER attack stat. And finally, Scizor will slow down Dragonite a little bit (too bad Dragonite's immune to Toxic Spikes =/
) and Swampert can handle the rest with Ice Beam/Punch (depending on which is available).

How does my strategy look? I think I'll keep Swampert's setup secret, just in case I use him competitively later.


If it were to be a Suicidal Spiker, then I'd probably replace Stealth Rock with Spikes, since there are rarely any good Spikers. Stealth Rock can go into another area.

Swampert should have Ice Beam for Rhyperior, since Rhyperior's Solid Rock ability cuts Super Effective Attacks by 1/3 or 1/4. You can use Surf or Hydro Pump to Take it down though, since its Special defense is pitiful.  

And Shed Shell is help by wild Venomoth in Route 229 by Pokeradaring. Use CompoundEyes to help get the item quicker, as well as a Pokemon that knows Frisk (Banette) to ensure that the Venomoth holds the Shed Shell.



Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Admiral-Ike on August 30, 2009, 01:40:23 pm
Anyone know a good nature for Togekiss?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on August 30, 2009, 01:45:15 pm
Calm's good, if you're looking for a ParaFlincher.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on August 30, 2009, 09:30:27 pm
Join the club.  :P

Breeding for the correct Scyther was miserable. I must have hatched 20. Ugh.

@B~T-will do. And I do actually have a Shed Shell right now.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on August 30, 2009, 10:27:09 pm
Having trouble breeding Larvitar w/ Pursuit...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on September 01, 2009, 09:30:31 am
@Both-keep in mind Scyther can have two abilities, and those can only have one. I had an adamant Scyther....with Swarm O__O

Working on mah forrteress....or however you spell it. It's hardx to keep track of that Pokemon's name =P

NExt up are Swampert, and for my fourth Pokemon, a 3rd-Gen Dragon often overshadowed by his cousin Salamence.....Flygon!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on September 01, 2009, 10:06:21 am
Quote
Breeding for a Naive Bagon, to no avail.

I think I have a Hasty Bagon...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on September 01, 2009, 11:22:34 pm
I had been filling up several boxes trying to get correct natures for my competitive team. =P

Any particular moveset recommended for Heatran? I'm about to catch him, but I'm not sure what nature I'd want, should I ever use him. =/


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 02, 2009, 10:22:28 am
Why don't we just set the forum to be non-private?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on September 02, 2009, 10:23:52 am
Quote
Maybe I should ask Jas or someone to make a banner for it?  I think there are many potential competitors at MLNO that don't even know about it.  This topic has practically been the only form of advertisement, and some people, such as R8, play Pokemon, but don't read this topic.  Thus, we should advertise forum-wide.  I'll figure something out...

I PM'ed Rahkshi some few weeks ago, but he never responded...

Either he missed it or he ignored it...

EDIT: Cool, 2020th post... ;D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on September 02, 2009, 10:28:23 am
I think we should just leave it private, just in case new members go in there and spam it up. Plus everyone else has no real reason to go there.

I think we should make a topic in MLNO General disscussion, or somewhere else here in the games board, just to spread the word a bit.

Does disky still play Pokymahn?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 02, 2009, 10:30:13 am
She doesn't have a DS. =P And if people spam it up, that's what me and Dudebot are there for. ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on September 02, 2009, 10:38:28 am
B~T is requesting a UU Pokemon nao.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 02, 2009, 01:58:20 pm
Every three months? Interesting...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on September 02, 2009, 02:00:44 pm
@B~T:Yanmega?

@blade-well, then it would be seasonal.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 02, 2009, 02:03:26 pm
at would be every four mon- ... Oooooh.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on September 02, 2009, 03:21:33 pm
Check this out: The mudkipz are rising up! =O

http://www.bloodysushi.com/macro/mudkipz.png

It is HILARIOUS. XD XD XD



Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 02, 2009, 07:22:44 pm
Hmm, interesting. Sounds pretty cool. =) And the next one after this will be a HG/SS one, or will it be the one after that?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on September 02, 2009, 07:24:20 pm
I may be starting to do a daily Pokymahn review thing like B~T. So keep an eye out.

EDIT:
Here's mah review.It is like B~T's review, but I have a few small changes, such as coloring, and the use of  my unreliable different opinion. I will use a news box like B~T.

Luxray
Type:Electric
AbilityIntimidate/Rivalry
Intimidate: Lowers the foe's attack one stage;reduces wild Pokemon encounter rate.
Rivalry: Move power depends on Nature.
Tier: NU


Stats:

HP:       80
Atk:      120
Def:      79
Sp. Atk: 95
Sp. Def: 79
Speed:  70

My Opinion: Although it's your best choice for an electric type in Diamond and Pearl, in competitive battling its lack of speed and fairly average defenses leave it fairly helpless in competitive battling.


Reccomended Setup:
Nature: Adamant
Item: Choice Band
EVs: 40 HP/252 ATK/216 Speed
~Crunch
~Ice Fang
~Spark
~Thunder Wave

This set gives you nice type coverage, among other thing. Ice Fang is to cover Ground Types, Spark is a decent physical attack with STAB. Crunch is simply so useful you can't pass on it, good power, accuracy and typing. Thunder Wave is the wild card, there to slow down faster foes.


Countering Luxray

Luxray isn't the toughest Pokemon to counter. Any Ground type with bulky defense can stop Luxray in his tracks...Rhyperior comes to mind. An Electivire with Earthquake can absorb Thunder Wave and Spark, and potenially 1HKO it. Any decent Physical Wall can pretty much stop it, assuming it has correct typing. Swampert can, like Electivire, absorb attacks and 1HKO it.


News, Improvements and Past Reviews.
Hello, this is my miscellaneous news area.

September 2nd: First Review: Luxray

Previous reviews
Luxray (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.msg164320.htm)

Wow....that took longer than I thought.

Famitsu rated HG/SS....37/40!^_^


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on September 02, 2009, 10:34:37 pm
Breeding for a Larvitar with good natures and EVs to no avail...

@DT - Also mention that Luxray has no reliable STAB Physical Move.

And mention the preferred ability in competitive battle.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 03, 2009, 10:13:32 am
So I'm guessing people with imports and are far enough to connect can't join in? =P Or is it just limited to moves and such that you can't learn in D/P/Pt like how Platinum had new moves, if HG/SS has any at all?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on September 03, 2009, 10:39:56 am
@B~T-thanks, but this is MY review, not Smogon's. =P

...I need to do some training...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on September 03, 2009, 10:44:17 am
Quote
Also, Return instead of Thunder Wave.  Spark is preferred over Thunder Fang for offering a 30% paralysis rate, so you should offer Return instead.  Return is its strongest attacking option. 

I got my Bagon, Naive Natured, completely EV trained and up to Level 31, and then I realized that Dragon Dance is an Egg Move on Salamence. 

Biggest >__< move in Pokemon I've done in a VERY long time.  I need to pay more attention next time. -__- 

@Blade:  Actually, the HGSS tournament will be the May tournament.  For one, with all things considered, I can't see NA getting HGSS before early February.  Furthermore, I want to give everyone some decent time to get through their games.  For many, these games will be their access to the tournaments, and as such, they need reasonable time to work on them.  Thus, HGSS additions won't be allowed until then. ;)

I actually have Dragon Dance Bagon. Want some?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on September 03, 2009, 12:08:12 pm
Oh, and on the topic of release timeline...

In February, M&L Inside Story was released. It is being released here in America in a few weeks.

That means it took about 7 months to transtlate everything. I'd say we should expect this in March-April.

I seriously need to start training my team...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 04, 2009, 08:14:26 am
Alright, so if I theoretically got HG/SS via importing(... What? =P), and raised up my team on Platinum, and traded it over to HG/SS, provided I didn't make any changes, it'd be alright? What about traded Pokemon from HG/SS via someone who imported it, same deal?('course I'd have to pay attention to Serebii then even more =P)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on September 04, 2009, 06:35:27 pm
can you get more than one gorgeous/royal/royal gorgeous ribbons at the ribbon syndicate?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 04, 2009, 06:37:49 pm
Not on one Pokemon, but you can buy more than one of each.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on September 04, 2009, 07:14:47 pm
Although I fail to see why anyone'd buy one in the first place. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 04, 2009, 07:17:47 pm
Bragging rights. Heck, if I wanted to, with all my money, I could buy at least one of them. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on September 04, 2009, 07:58:26 pm
According to Serebii, the legendary birds are in HG/SS >_<. This is not right...

Also, for the Pokemon Tournament, I made a banner. Comments and constructive criticism is appreciated.
(http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr213/B_T_Energized/Pokemon/MLNO_PokemonVideoGameChampionshipsB.png)
"PM him for details about the tournament."


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on September 04, 2009, 09:48:52 pm
Cool banner. But if Arceus were in teh background...

BTW, can someone re-explain EV-lowering berries to me? To make sure my Forterresses defense was at 100, I used a berry. But when i used an Iron to check....the Iron worked. =/ I haz way to fix, but it is sorta annoying...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Skullkeepa14 on September 04, 2009, 10:04:29 pm
They make sure that ur pokemon is friendlier but lower pacific stat for each one of the lowering berries. I would Check My Ds But I just woke up! ;) And Also Arceus Is Only Obtainable through an event in Japan Where the new pokemon movie came out. And You Can't Trade him in GTS Because He holds Perish ribbon (or sumthin) ^-^


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on September 04, 2009, 10:31:49 pm
Okay.

If a Pokemon has more than or equal to 101 EVs in a stat, then it will reduce to 100 EVs in that particular stat.

If a Pokemon has 100 EVs or lower in a stat, then a berry will reduce it by 10 EVs.

The vitamins give Pokemon 10 EVs in a stat and stop at 100 EVs. There, you train by yourself.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on September 04, 2009, 10:43:50 pm
Cool banner. But if Arceus were in teh background...
That'd be pointless, since Arceus is an Ub3r, which are banned. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Skullkeepa14 on September 04, 2009, 11:17:57 pm
Okay.

If a Pokemon has more than or equal to 101 EVs in a stat, then it will reduce to 100 EVs in that particular stat.

If a Pokemon has 100 EVs or lower in a stat, then a berry will reduce it by 10 EVs.

The vitamins give Pokemon 10 EVs in a stat and stop at 100 EVs. There, you train by yourself.

Actually I tried this and at more than 100 evs on a stat the vitamins incresed my base stat. I have a blissey with 665 HP! >:D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on September 05, 2009, 06:08:12 am
I have a blissey with 665 HP! >:D
What level is it? 'Cause that's actually really low by Blissey standards. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Skullkeepa14 on September 05, 2009, 07:48:43 am
100! I could show u if  had wireless router :-[


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on September 05, 2009, 09:06:04 am
@B~T-okay. But if I used teh Vitamin, and tried to use another of the same vitamin that didn't work, that GUARENTEES my Pokemon haz 100 EVs in that stat?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 05, 2009, 09:14:03 am
Skullkeepa: Um... Vitamins don't work period if you have over 100 EVs in the stat you're trying to increase ;)

DT: It would say it wouldn't work. 10 Vitamins is the max for a stat though, if you're wondering. ;) But the berries are like reverse Vitamins. The first, if you're over 100 as B~T said, will reduce it to 100, and the rest act, as I mentioned, like reverse vitamins.

Arceus Thing: Currently you can only get Arceus via the movie one, but I expect an event that doesn't come to Canada will have it, as usual. =P And while you can't trade him over the GTS, the GTS isn't the only way to trade Pokemon. if you found someone who had a legit one, you could just exchange FCs and trade it that way.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on September 05, 2009, 09:27:48 am
I know, but we have IMAGES of Arceus, don't we?

Ok. So my Forretress has 100 Defense EVs currently...

I need to do my daily Pokemon review..


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on September 05, 2009, 10:53:51 am
I have a blissey with 665 HP! >:D
What level is it? 'Cause that's actually really low by Blissey standards. =P

Its actually average for Blissey. I don't think you can invest more EVs into Blissey's HP since it is Lvl. 100...

Maybe you can; I'm not sure.

And it is normal for Blissey to have high HP. It has a base HP Stat of 255.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on September 05, 2009, 03:47:00 pm
I have a blissey with 665 HP! >:D
What level is it? 'Cause that's actually really low by Blissey standards. =P

Its actually average for Blissey. I don't think you can invest more EVs into Blissey's HP since it is Lvl. 100...

Maybe you can; I'm not sure.

And it is normal for Blissey to have high HP. It has a base HP Stat of 255.
True. But according to Smogon, the minimum HP for a Blissey is 651 and the maximum is 714. In other words, it's not far off from the minimum HP stat.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on September 05, 2009, 04:44:41 pm
Actually, use Serebii.

Smogon assumes that stats have 31 IVs.

Serebii uses all possible ranges for HP.

Thus, SkullKeepa's Blissey has average HP.

TODAY'S POKEMON IS...

LANTURN!!!

Type: WATER/ELECTRIC
Ability: Volt Absorb - Recovers HP when hit by an Electric move, including Thunder Wave
          Illuminate: Increases wild Pokemon encounters, it does nothing in battling.
Tier:  UU
Stats:

HP         125
Atck       58
Def        58
Sp. Atck 76
Sp. Def   76
Speed    67

Author's Opinion: Lanturn is actually a decent Special Sponge. In fact, it is viable in both UU and OU, although it does better performance in UU, being one of the best counters to Starmie, since it resists eerything, including Grass Knot (Base 40 Power, FYI, 50 pounds). It also counters the ever-so-common Bulky Waters in OU and UU that do not have Water and Ground as their types.  

Also, when I mention specific sets in a section, its movew|movex|movey|movez/alternatemovea, where "|" represents a move, while "/" represents an alternate move in a moveslot.


Recommended Movesets:
Nature: Calm
Ability: Volt Absorb
Item: Leftovers
EVs: 40 HP/136 Sp. Attack/252 Sp. Defense/80 Speed *credit to Smogon for EVs, since I'm too lazy to find it by myself, and the fact that I do not know Lanturn well.
~ Surf
~ Thunderbolt/Discharge/Thunder Wave
~ Ice Beam/Confuse Ray
~ Thunder Wave/Toxic

This set can use the Dudebot clause Parafusion, or act as a Special Wall. For a special wall, go with Surf|Thunderbolt|Ice Beam|Thunder Wave/Toxic. For the Dudebot set, Go with Surf|Discharge/Thunderbolt|Confuse Ray|Thunder Wave/Ice Beam. If you decide to have Discharge, then ditch Thunder Wave and go with Ice Beam. If you like power at the cost of accuracy, it is possible to replace Discharge for Thunder.

For the Special Wall set, Thunder Wave or Toxic is up to you. Thunder Wave cripples sweepers while Toxic cripples walls.


Countering Lanturn:

Swampert does a good job at dealing with it, firing off Earthquakes to hit its poor Defenses. Quagsire is special since it resists its Water moves completely and shares the same story as Swampert. Same with Gastrodon. And maybe Whiscash, even if it is inferior.

Since Lanturn is inclined to be a Special threat, Blissey and Snorlax wall it. Other Special walls that aren;t weak to its moves do a good job at walling it.

If you are a Grass type with decent Special defense *stares at Tangrowth*, then it is a counter.

Electivire can absorb its moves and fire Earthquakes.

Dugtrio can revenge kill it with Earthquake.

(http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr213/B_T_Energized/Pokemon/Lanturn_Sprite.png)


News and Improvements Section:
Hello, this is, uh, the news section.

August 7, 2009.
With his suggestion, I will add the Tier section to make things a lot helpful. It will be between the ability and stat sections. I will also link to previous reviews to make things a lot convenient in the section below. They will be listed alphabetically. Oh, and not to mention that this is also the first time I added the News Section :P.

August 11, 2009
Added separate section for the previous reviews.

August 12, 2009
Recolored Flying type.

August 20, 2009
Recolored Dragon type.

August 29, 2009
Recolored Water Type.


Previous Reviews:
Aerodactyl: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,159071.html)
Alakazam: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,136801.html)
Arcanine: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,137912.html)
Blaziken: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,152761.html)
Dusknoir: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,136354.html)
Feraligatr: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,153726.html)
Gallade: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,152525.html)
Gyarados: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,148526.html)
Lucario: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,160949.html)
Meganium: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,156646.html)
Milotic: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,151952.html)
Salamence: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,148086.html)
Scizor: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,162555.html)
Skarmory: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,157008.html)
Swampert: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,162862.html)
Typhlosion: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,154326.html)
Umbreon: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,136212.html)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on September 05, 2009, 05:07:02 pm
Fair enough.

Dudebot clause. xD

I finally caught my perferred Heatran, and I can now leave Stark Mountain behind. =D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on September 05, 2009, 06:00:18 pm
Congratulations.

Alright, I need to get something offline done, but once I do, I'll get my next Pokemon review up. Not that anyone learns anything useful from them. =P

Congratulations.

Alright, I need to get something offline done, but once I do, I'll get my next Pokemon review up. Not that anyone learns anything useful from them. =P

EDIT: It's time for...

Twilight's daily(give or take a few days) Pokemon reviews!




Today's Pokemon is....

Staraptor!!

Type:Normal/Flying
Ability:Intimidate: Lowers the foe's attack by 1 stage; reduces wild encounter rate.
Tier: BL


Stats:

HP:        85
Atk:       120
Def:       70
Sp. Atk: 50
Sp. Def: 50
Speed:   100

My Opinion:Borderline fits this Pokemon perfectly. It isn't quite strong enough to be OU, but not weak enough for UU. As far as Flying-types you can get early in the game (starter birds, as I call them), Staraptor is the best final evolution by fairly wide margin.



Reccomended Setup:
Nature: Adamant/ Jolly
Item: Choice Band
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 4 HP/252 ATK/252 Speed*credit to Smogon for pretty much all of this setup, including these EVs
~Brave Bird
~Return/Double Edge
~Close Combat
~U-Turn/Quick Attack/ Pursuit

AAAAGH! I had just finished, and my computer messed up. *eyetwitch*

*sigh*

Brave Bird and Close Combat are pretty much essential, even if you don't know squat about the meta-game. =P Return gives you decent power, but Double Edge, when taking in the effects of STAB, Choice band and Base Power of 120. All of the final options are good, but all in all I reccomend U-turn.



Countering Staraptor
Electivire, Zapdos, and Swampert can all 1/2HKO Staraptor, and take some hits from it. (My original version was much longer, but I don't want to rewrite it.)



New and Improvements Section
September 5th: Renamed Section and did second review. Past Reviews is its own section now.

September 2nd: First Review-Luxray



Past Reviews
Luxray (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.2020.html)
Staraptor (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.msg165011.html)
HG/SS release in Japan in 5 days.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on September 06, 2009, 02:16:48 pm
The reason Staraptor has high success is because of Close Combat, which gets past Steel-Type walls. Most other Normal/Flying types do not have this advantage.

Also, Skarmory is a counter, since he is not weak to Close Combat.

PORYGON-Z!!!

Type: NORMAL
Ability: Adaptability - STAB Moves are boosted x2 instead of x1.5
          Download: If the opponent has lower Defense, Attack rises by 50%. If the opponent has lower Sp. Defense, Sp. Attack rises by 50%.
Tier:  OU
Stats:

HP         85
Atck       80
Def        70
Sp. Atck 135
Sp. Def   75
Speed    90

Author's Opinion: It has one of the highest Sp. Attack stats in the OU tier, but it comes with an average 90 speed, and lower than average defenses. It has the gift for being capable of 2HKOing Blissey, the best Special Wall. Despite its average speed, it still is a force to watch out for.

Recommended Movesets:

Nature: Timid/Modest
Ability: Download/Adaptability
Item: Choice Scarf/Choice Specs
EVs: 4 HP/252 Sp. Attack/252 Speed
~ Tri-Attack
~ Dark Pulse/Hidden Power Fighting
~ Thunderbolt/Hidden Power Fighting
~ Ice Beam/Hyper Beam/Nasty Plot

Choice Scarf helps its average Speed outrun anything that doesn't have a Choice Scarf and is faster than it. Tri-Attack for STAB, Dark Pulse hits Ghost types that resist it, and Thunderbolt, Ice Beam, and Hidden Power Fighting are options for it.

You can also replace it with Choice Specs, giving it power for less Speed.

Hyper Beam is an option, but it is really risky, since it gies the opponent time to set up on you or hit hard on your poor defenses. However, it 2HKOs most variants of Blissey.

Nasty Plot can make Porygon capable of 2HKOing any Pokemon in the OU tier, including Blissey. Any moves can work out for you, and make sure you use Adaptability if you are going to use the Nasty Plot set.

If you are going with the Choice sets, it is obvious to ditch Nasty Plot.

Countering Porygon-Z:

Due to its high Sp. Attack that is capable of annihilating Blissey, one should take advantage of its low defenses and average Speed.

Spiritomb resists all its moves. Blissey is a counter, but only if it has a status move like Thunder Wave.  

Tyranitar and anything that is Steel/Rock typed like Aggron and Probopass can wall it as long as it doesn't have Hidden Power Fighting.

Also, if you have a Mach Punch or Vacuum Wave user, you're in good shape for killing Porygon-Z. Lucario and Breloom are examples, but watch out, since its attacks can hurt.

Gengar can outspeed it and Focus Blast it.

(http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr213/B_T_Energized/Pokemon/Porygon-Z_Sprite.png)


News and Improvements Section:
Hello, this is, uh, the news section.

August 7, 2009.
With his suggestion, I will add the Tier section to make things a lot helpful. It will be between the ability and stat sections. I will also link to previous reviews to make things a lot convenient in the section below. They will be listed alphabetically. Oh, and not to mention that this is also the first time I added the News Section :P.

August 11, 2009
Added separate section for the previous reviews.

August 12, 2009
Recolored Flying type.

August 20, 2009
Recolored Dragon type.

August 29, 2009
Recolored Water Type.

September 6, 2009
Recolored Normal Type. Also removed the extra spaces between horizontal rules.


Previous Reviews:
Aerodactyl: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,159071.html)
Alakazam: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,136801.html)
Arcanine: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,137912.html)
Blaziken: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,152761.html)
Dusknoir: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,136354.html)
Feraligatr: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,153726.html)
Gallade: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,152525.html)
Gyarados: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,148526.html)
Lanturn: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,164996.html)
Lucario: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,160949.html)
Meganium: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,156646.html)
Milotic: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,151952.html)
Salamence: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,148086.html)
Scizor: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,162555.html)
Skarmory: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,157008.html)
Swampert: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,162862.html)
Typhlosion: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,154326.html)
Umbreon: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,136212.html)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on September 06, 2009, 03:08:06 pm
Question: Does the "One-time item" effect for items like Focus Sash and berries count in Wi-fi?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 06, 2009, 03:10:15 pm
Like, they get used up? Yeah, but they stay for future battles either way.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on September 06, 2009, 03:18:41 pm
Yeah, they'd get used in-battle, but they're available for anothe Wi-fi battle. Correct?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 06, 2009, 03:22:18 pm
Correct. They only time it gets fully used, is if it's ingame, and not against the Frontier.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on September 06, 2009, 03:24:50 pm
Figures. I used one at the Battleground, and was completely surprised when the guy that had it got OHKO'd. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 06, 2009, 03:27:01 pm
Well, the sash shouldn't be used up after a battle, but the berries will be.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on September 06, 2009, 03:50:48 pm
The sash was used in a previous battle. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 06, 2009, 03:53:58 pm
Yeah, but you should be able to use it in multiple battles...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on September 06, 2009, 03:56:52 pm
You'd think so, but Focus Sash is aparently a one-use item ingame. Smogon backs this up. D=


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on September 06, 2009, 10:08:35 pm
I'm so happy, I got a Larvitar w/ Pursuit with good IVs!! w00T!!!

31 IVs in Attack and maybe Speed (least is 28)!!!


Now, can somebody please give me advice on what is a good EV Spread on Tyranitar:
172 HP/252 Attack/80 Speed

OR

4 HP/252 Attack/252 Speed


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 07, 2009, 09:26:29 am
You'd think so, but Focus Sash is aparently a one-use item ingame. Smogon backs this up. D=
0_o that's... weird. Ah well, I guess you should only use it in the Frontier and online then =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 07, 2009, 02:03:37 pm
Now go get the gold prints and say that it's too easy. =P

I'm waiting for my own competitive team for that, which I should probably get to work on...

On a slightly unrelated note, I just noticed that my GBA and my DS has marks in approximately the same spots. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on September 07, 2009, 03:48:00 pm
I'm making a competitive team as well. I am failing to make, however, progress. -_-

I have Swampert, Forrteress, and Scizor planned. Scizor was sucessful, but I need to give him Superpower. Forrterress is a work in progress, I still need Stealth Rock and I'm only about 25% done EV training. Plus I'm too busy trying to learn the correct spelling of his name.

...The Swampert in question doesn't exist yet. If I had known of Pal Park, I never would have new gamed my Emerald, which had 400+ logged hours and 150+ caught Pokemon. -_- 0_o


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 07, 2009, 03:52:39 pm
My competitive team will have...

Infernape
Gallade
Salamence
Togekiss
Swampert
Electivire


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on September 07, 2009, 04:01:14 pm
Not bad. Those are all OU, right? Or is Gallade not OU?

I'm trying to be unpredictable with my team. Trouble is, I am waaay predictable. Sooner or later I'll come up with a strategy though.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on September 07, 2009, 04:02:41 pm
Now, can somebody please give me advice on what is a good EV Spread on Tyranitar:

172 HP/252 Attack/80 Speed

OR

4 HP/252 Attack/252 Speed
HELLO?

So far, I have an IV and EV Trained Scizor, Dragonite, Starmie, and Machamp. All I need is a Relaxed Synchronizer...

And train Larvitar to Tyranitar if someone would recommend me a good EV Spread... tsktsk... *looks above*


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 07, 2009, 04:03:10 pm
I'm not sure, but Gallade could be BL or UU.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on September 07, 2009, 04:16:15 pm
Gallade is BL. ;)

Now, can somebody please give me advice on what is a good EV Spread on Tyranitar:

172 HP/252 Attack/80 Speed

OR

4 HP/252 Attack/252 Speed
HELLO?

So far, I have an IV and EV Trained Scizor, Dragonite, Starmie, and Machamp. All I need is a Relaxed Synchronizer...

And train Larvitar to Tyranitar if someone would recommend me a good EV Spread... tsktsk... *looks above*

What kind of moveset are you planning on running?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on September 07, 2009, 04:17:36 pm
A Choice Bander.

One from Smogon and one EV Spread from Serebii.

Or maybe 252 HP/252 Attack/4 Sp. Def?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 07, 2009, 04:31:13 pm
Quote
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake
- Crunch
- Pursuit / Focus Punch / Ice Fang
Item Attached: Choice Band
Trait: Sandstream
EVs and Nature:
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)

That's from Serebii's Pokemon of the Week... Will that do?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on September 07, 2009, 04:35:44 pm
Tyranitar's Speed stats only cap out at 244 or something. IT cannot outrun a lot of things in OU.

So I will get a few EVs on Speed or none at all...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on September 07, 2009, 04:38:15 pm
Considering Ttar's lack of outspeeding a lot of things, I'd go with Smogon's setup. At the least, you should outrun some Skarmory while being able to take a few hits.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on September 07, 2009, 04:43:59 pm
So which is more preferred:

172 HP/252 Atck/80 Speed

or

252 HP/252 Atck/4 Speed?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 07, 2009, 04:45:49 pm
I'd say the one with more HP, since you should have enough of a speed boost to outrun most things with the Choice Band


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on September 07, 2009, 04:48:05 pm
The latter, when I think about it. If it's not going to be able to hit fast anyway, then it needs to be able to take hits.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on September 07, 2009, 05:16:44 pm
@B~T-the second one.


It's time for....

Twilight's Daily Pokymahn Review!

Today's Pokemon is....

Scizor

Type:Steel/Bug
Ability: Swarm/Technician
Swarm: Boosts power of Bug-Type moves by 50% when HP is at 33% or less.
Technician: Boosts power of moves with base power of 60 or under by 50%
Tier: OU

Stats:

HP:        70
Atk:       130
Def:       100
Sp. Atk:  55
Sp. Def:  85
Speed:   65

My Opinion: Although I didn't know much about this Pokemon until this Generation, I can say with a bit of confidence that this Pokemon was a breakout Pokemon in Plat. The addition of Bullet Punch was the primary boost. Combine it with Priority attacking, STAB, Swords Dance and Life Orb/Choice Band, this Pokemon is a force to be reckoned with.



Reccomended Setup
Nature: Adamant
Item: Choice Band/Life Orb
Ability: Technician
Function: Physical Swords Dance Sweeper
EVs:4 HP/252 Atk/252 Speed**looks at Smogon*, well, I would have probably come up with this anyway
~Bullet Punch
~Swords Dance (duh)
~Roost/X-Scissor
~Brick Break/Superpower


Using Scizor:
What makes Scizor such a threat is its monster attack stat. Maxing out his Attack EVs is a must. IF you have a lot of time on your hands, try to get him 31 IVs *stares at B~T* in Attack.

This set is fairy simple. Open up with a Swords Dance or two, use Roost if you have it and took damage while using Swords Dance, and pwn with Bullet Punch and Brick Break, Superpower.

Swords Dance is crucial to this set, so make sure you get it. Bullet Punch, combined with STAB, Swords Dance, Technician, etc, will get you 1HKOs easily. X-Scissor is a good move with similar power to Bullet Punch, but not really necessary. I'd choose Roost 9 times out of 10. And finally, the Fighting-Type moves, whichever you pick, contain brute power and deal with some would-be counters of this set.All in all, if you can raise Superpower's PP, it is probably the better choice.

Countering Scizor:

Scizor's nine resistences and immunity to Poison *looks at Toxic Spikes* make it tough to count. Honestly, its above-average defenses leave only one way to counter it: Fire. Heatran is okay, but Brick Break/ Superpower can easily 1HKO it. All four of the Fire-Type Starter Pokemon can counter it, especially Charizard. Any Special Sweeper with a Fire-Type move and decent speed can make fairly quick work of Scizor.

New and Improvements Section
September 7th: Made quite a few changes today. Featured Pokemon is now in glow, and typing is now in color. Function feature was added. Bold was added to different days for this section. =P Added bold to "My Opinion" section. Reduced space between sections divided by Horizantal Rule. Added bold to Past Review Section. Probably forgot a few things =P Oh, and I made the longest list of changes in one review ever. =P

September 5th: Renamed Section and did second review. Past Reviews is its own section now. Forgot to mention in last review that I added the reccomended ability.

September 2nd: First Review: Luxray

Past Reviews
Luxray (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.2020.html)
Scizor (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.new.html)
Staraptor (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.2060.html)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on September 07, 2009, 05:44:02 pm
You do realize that I already reviewed Scizor?

I guess I will go with 252 HP/252 Atck/4 Sp. Def...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on September 07, 2009, 05:51:49 pm
@B~T-what, I can't review the Pokemon I want to?  :P

Seriously, Scizor was probably my best option for a review. It's the only one so far that I actively use.

Hm...if I raise my Pokemon to level 100 each (that will take a while =P), and I took the level 50 challenge at the Battle Tower, would the EVs that my Pokemon got when they reached level 100 still take effect, or would lowering the levels cancel that out?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 07, 2009, 05:54:20 pm
They'd still be in effect.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on September 07, 2009, 06:42:22 pm
Well, its just that two reviews are rather redundant.

And while skimming the Pokemon topic, I found this pretty amusing quote... no offense DT
Quote
Rhetoric, sarcasm, and overwhelmingly-long posts are my three big debate weapons, after all. ::) 


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Skullkeepa14 on September 08, 2009, 02:48:12 am
Can some1 tell me how to evolve my nincada into a Shedinja? On Serebii net it just shows a picture of a pokeball next to lvl 20? ???


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on September 08, 2009, 09:03:57 am
It's simple. Evolve your Nincada at whatever level it evolves. Nicada will leave its ow shell behind. This shell is actually Shedinja. When you evolve Nincada, have an empty spot in your team and a Poke Ball.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 08, 2009, 02:53:55 pm
Whoops, missed that one. >_>

Nice, sounds epicly awesome for you xD


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on September 08, 2009, 03:19:22 pm
Quote

I trained you better than this. :P 

Hey, we're your friends, not your Pokemon.  :P ...

...

...

*haz nothing to say*

...I still need to work on my competitive team...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 08, 2009, 03:27:03 pm
Did anyone else miss out on the fact that the running shoes can be used without having to hold down B now? =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on September 08, 2009, 03:29:20 pm
@DT - I choose you, DT-Sith Master!!

Use your Splash Attack!!!


TYRANITAR!!!

Type: ROCK/DARK
Ability: Sand Stream - When this Pokemon enters the field, it creates permanent Sandstorm.
Tier: OU
Stats:
HP         100
Atck       134
Def        110
Sp. Atck 95
Sp. Def   100
Speed    61

Author's Opinion: This thing is a monster in all of its stats not named Speed. Since it summons Sandstorm, it complements its typing, since it gains a x1.5 Special Defense boost in Sandstorm.  To make up for its speed, it has Rock Polish and Dragon Dance at its side.

Recommended Movesets:

Nature: Adamant
Item: Choice Band/Leftovers
EVs: 172 HP/252 Attack/80 Speed
       252 HP/252 Attack/4 Sp. Defense
~ Stone Edge
~ Crunch
~ Pursuit/Dragon Dance
~ Aqua Tail/Earthquake/Fire Punch

Choice Set: Hold the Choice Band. Moveset is Stone Edge|Crunch|Pursuit|Aqua Tail/Earthquake. It ups Tyranitar's high Attack into very high attack.

Dragon Dance Set: Stone Edge|Crunch|Dragon Dance|Fire Punch/Aqua Tail/Earthquake. Dragon Dance up and sweep. Fire Punch makes Scizor think twice about switching in, while Aqua Tail deals damage to Hippowdon, Gliscor, and the like.

Nature: Brave
Item: Life Orb
EVs: 252 Attack/232 Sp. Attack/24 Speed
~ Crunch
~ Superpower/Stone Edge/Earthquake
~ Fire Blast
~ Ice Beam

You'd expect Tyranitar to be all Physical, right? Think again. With its average Sp. Attack stat of 95, you can actually surprise teams off guard when their usual counters get OHKOed or weakened a lot. Fire Blast rids Scizor, and Ice Beam does massive damage to Gliscor and other bulky Ground types.  

Countering Tyranitar:

Scizor. Bullet Punch. An easy 2HKO for Tyranitar, and if Stealth Rock is present, an OHKO. Beware of Fire moves, as well as Choice Band Stone Edges, as they can 2HKO Scizor, and a OHKO if Stealth Rock is up.

Any Fighting Type can take it on, especially Machamp, since he has enough bulk to withstand Tyranitar's attacks. Lucario must watch out for Fire moves though. As well as Earthquake.  

Bulky Ground types can destroy it, but Aqua Tail and Ice Beam spell their demise.

Bronzong works as well as Skarmory, but that's only if it doesn't have a Fire Move.

(http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr213/B_T_Energized/Pokemon/Tyranitar_Sprite.png)

News and Improvements Section:
News section. What more?

August 7, 2009.
With his suggestion, I will add the Tier section to make things a lot helpful. It will be between the ability and stat sections. I will also link to previous reviews to make things a lot convenient in the section below. They will be listed alphabetically. Oh, and not to mention that this is also the first time I added the News Section :P.

August 11, 2009
Added separate section for the previous reviews.

August 12, 2009
Recolored Flying type.

August 20, 2009
Recolored Dragon type.

August 29, 2009
Recolored Water Type.

September 6, 2009
Recolored Normal Type. Also removed the extra spaces between horizontal rules.

September 8, 2009
Recolored Dark Type. Natures, EVs, Abilities, and Items bolded. As well as the section dividers. Originally going to make them 11 pt, but it was too big.

Previous Reviews:
Aerodactyl: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,159071.html)
Alakazam: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,136801.html)
Arcanine: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,137912.html)
Blaziken: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,152761.html)
Dusknoir: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,136354.html)
Feraligatr: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,153726.html)
Gallade: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,152525.html)
Gyarados: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,148526.html)
Lanturn: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,164996.html)
Lucario: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,160949.html)
Meganium: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,156646.html)
Milotic: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,151952.html)
Porygon-Z: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,165129.html)
Salamence: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,148086.html)
Scizor: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,162555.html)
Skarmory: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,157008.html)
Swampert: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,162862.html)
Typhlosion: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,154326.html)
Umbreon: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,136212.html)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 08, 2009, 03:32:39 pm
At the Friends, Not Pokemon comment: We aren't? ... Dang, someone stopped playing Mystery Dungeon then. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on September 08, 2009, 04:30:04 pm
I just completely pwned my one friend in a Wi-fi battle. That said, it wasn't even a challenge. =P

@BT: I choose you, Blademan! Use your splash attack!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 08, 2009, 04:35:28 pm
I feel like I just got owned myself. Oh wait, that's just the aftershocks of you beating me while I was still on Vaca. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on September 08, 2009, 04:39:03 pm
-_-

I don NOT know splash! I know Doubleslap, and that's pretty much it.



Torterra

Type: Grass/Ground
Ability: Overgrow
Overgrow: Boosts power of Grass-Type moves by 50% when HP is at 33% or lower.
Tier: UU

Stats:

HP:       95
Atk:      109
Def:      105
Sp. Atk: 75
SP. Def: 85
Speed:  56

My Opinion: A sturdy Pokemon physically, but he's fairly average other than that. His defenses are fairly good, making for a good tank. His speed is his biggest weakness, along with a x4 weakness to Ice.



Reccomended Setup:
Nature: Impish
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Overgrow
Function: Tank
Evs: 200 HP/252 Def/56 Sp. Def
~Wood Hammer
~Earthquake
~Leech Seed/Synthesis
~Stealth Rock/Protect


Using Torterra:
Pretty good tank IMO. If you have another Stealth Rocker or entry hazard Pokemon, opt for Protect. I guess that's kind of obvious actually.  :P

Anyways....after you handle Stealth Rock/Protect, you have another pick: Leech Seed or Synthesis. Leech Seed is more of a slow 'n steady approach, whereas Synthesis will get it all done at once. Even with Synthesis' low PP, you shouldn't need to recover 5 times.

After that, it's pretty simple. Earthquake and Wood Hammer are both hard-hitting moves. Earthquake is useful for dealing with Ice-Types, except ones with Levitate *glares angrily at Froslass* or part Flying-Type *glares angrily at Articuno*, and Wood Hammer is a 1HKO'er for quite a few Pokemon. Just beware of the HP loss.

Countering Torterra:

Ice. Ice will counter Torterra. Earthquake will 1HKO some Ice-types, but like I said, Froslass and Articuno are forces that Torterra should fear. Flying-Types, like Staraptor, can deal with Torterra as well. Oh, and Fire. You have to be careful around Fire-Types, like Moltres. Any Pokemon Immune to Earthquake will be helpful.

If you can get Toxic Spikes and Stealth Rock out there, it will slow down Torterra as well.

News and Improvements Section
September 8th: No real news today. But for the first time, I did a review two days in a row.

September 7th: Made quite a few changes today. Featured Pokemon is now in glow, and typing is now in color. Function feature was added. Bold was added to different days for this section. =P Added bold to "My Opinion" section. Reduced space between sections divided by Horizantal Rule. Added bold to Past Review Section. Probably forgot a few things =P Oh, and I made the longest list of changes in one review ever. =P

September 5th: Renamed Section and did second review. Past Reviews is its own section now. Forgot to mention in last review that I added the reccomended ability.

September 2nd: First Review: Luxray

Past Reviews
Luxray (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.2020.html)
Scizor (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.2080.html)
Staraptor (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.2060.html)
Torterra (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.new.html)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 08, 2009, 04:41:01 pm
Ice owns Torterra... Trust me, I know -_-;


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on September 08, 2009, 04:54:54 pm
Uh...

Froslass has Snow Cloak as its only ability...

B~T

Type: Water/Ghost

Height: 5' 9.5"

Weight: 105.5 lbs

Stats:
HP-50 <--I have such low endurance...
Attack-40 <--I am physically frail IRL
Defense-100
Sp. Attack-125 <-- I am actually pretty smart IRL
Sp.Defense-85
Speed-90 <--Slow at work, but faster physically...

Does not evolve

Ability: Speed Boost

Base Happiness-70

Base EXP - Medium Fast

Wild Hold Item - None

EV Profit- 2 Special Attack

Moves:
1-Scratch
1-Rest
1-Slack Off
5-Hammer Arm
7-Water Gun
10-Uproar
13-Taunt
16-Hyper Voice
20-Bite
22-Lick
25-Crunch
28-Meditate
30-Jump Kick
32-Detect
35-Body Slam
38-Hi Jump Kick
43-Hyper Beam
45-Shadow Punch
49-Superpower
51-Psychic
55-Shadow Ball
57-Hydro Pump

Can learn Surf and Waterfall as HMs.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 08, 2009, 05:26:00 pm
I'll work on the rest for now, but right now I'll focus on the fully evolved form.

Omega Blademan

Type: Lightning/Grass

Stats:
HP: 20(I don't like to get hurt.)
Attack: 105
Defense: 80
Sp. Attack: 105
Sp. Defense: 90
Speed: 113

Blademan Zero --> Neo Blademan --> Omega Blademan

Base Happiness - 20

Base EXP - Fast

Height: 6 foot 1/6'1''

Weight: 150 lbs(Factoring in Armour for this and the above)

Classification: Sword Armour Pokemon

Colour Category: Green

Wild Hold Item: Muscle Band

EV Profit: 2 Attack, 1 Sp. Attack

Moves:
- Leaf Blade
- Night Slash
- Thunder Punch
- Psycho Cut
50 - Thunderbolt
51 - Close Combat
52 - Spark
53 - Aerial Ace
54 - Giga Drain
55 - Magical Leaf
56 - Razor Leaf
57 - Luster Purge(Yes, a signature move. It fit Ki.)
58 - Psychic
59 - Power Whip
60 - Aura Sphere(And so did this)
61 - Wood Hammer
62 - Volt Tackle
63 - Shadow Claw
64 - Ice Shard
MT - Ice Punch
65 - Last Resort
66 - Blaze Kick
67 - Heat Wave
MT - Fire Punch
TM - Secret Power

... Too many to list I think. >>; It's mostly due to the Armour factor; since he has a way of switching weapons to different things, he can mimic attacks, though the heat wave and fire stuff is from the device melded into his arm, a reference Dudebot should get.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on September 08, 2009, 06:02:13 pm
.

ability: levitate

Type: Dark/dragon

Stats:
Hp: 50 - i get sick a lot
Attack: 90
Def: 20
Sp. Attack: 115
Sp. Def: 50
Speed: 130 - i am fast irl

Doesn't evolve

base happiness - 80

Base exp - fast

wild hold item: choice band

EVs gained: 3 speed

Moves:
- agility
5 - scratch
10 - dragon breath
13 - pursuit
15 - signal beam
19 - take down
21 - night slash
30 - dark pulse
33- Ice beam
40 - stealth rock
44 - dragon pulse
49 - thunder bolt
56 - taunt
70 - draco meteor
Tm - psychic
Mt -heat wave


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on September 08, 2009, 06:43:05 pm
ZLS

Ability: Swift Swin

Types: Water/Steel

Stats:
HP: 70 (Decent. I don't get sick, but I'm not the healthiest person out there(I'm not bad though))
Atk: 25 (I'm weak physically, IMO)
Def: 75 (eh.)
SpAtk: 120 (I consider myself smart and powerful with words and such)
SpDef: 105 (eh.)
Speed: 100 (My speed irl depends on the day(therfor Swift Swim)

Evolutionary Chain:
Zero ->lv25 Zero Shadow ->lv60 ZLS

Base Happiness: 35

Base EXP: Very Slow

Wild Hold Item: Mystic Water(I think that's what its called)

EVs gained: 3SpAtk

Moves:
-Water Pulse
-Flash Cannon
-Charm
7-Agility
12-Water Pulse
18-Metal Claw
27-Whirlpool
32-Metal Sound
36-Aqua Tail
47-Toxic
55-Hydro Pump
60-Hyper Beam
70-Aura Sphere
80-Nasty Plot
90-Surf
97-Barrier
MT: Draco Meteor (even if it is only available to dragons and Jirachi)

And yes, ZLS is a different version of Empoleon, with better SpAtk and Speed.




Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on September 08, 2009, 08:00:01 pm
Uh...

Froslass has Snow Cloak as its only ability...


Say what? 0_o

D~T

Type: Normal
Ability: Truant

Stats:

150 HP (...-_-...)
Atk:30
Def: 90
Sp. Atk: 85
Sp. Def: 40 (I crack under pressure)
Speed: 40 (...)

Evolutionary Chain:

Couch Potato>Happiness D~T Does not evolve.

Base Happiness-Happiness is determined by the time it takes you to give him a berry, starting at 60 and losing 60 points per hour.

Base EXP:Very, very, very, slow.

Wild Held Item: Leftovers

EVS gained: 3 HP, 1 Sp. Def

Moves:

-Rest
-Scratch
-Bide
-Hyper Beam (XP)
Level 1-Recycle
Level 3-Stockpile
Level 3-Swallow
Level 3-Spit Up
Choke(only usable after using Swallow
Level 8-Growl
Level  13-Rest
Level 18-Psybeam
Level 24-Ice Beam
Level 32-Body Slam
Level 37-Hyper Voice
Level 41-Flamethrower-only learnable if Pokemon has recently eaten curry
Level 47-Psychic
Level 58-Recover
Level 69-Thunder (only usable if Pokemon has recently been clinging to a metalic pole in a Thunderstorm)

I loved writing that XP


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on September 08, 2009, 09:39:43 pm
Yeah, Blade, I would understand it. =P

Dudebot5000

Type: Steel/Dragon

Ability: Levitate (Jet Pack. ^_^)

Stats:
HP: 60
Attack: 130 (I hurt. If I want to.)
Defense: 115
Sp. Attack: 105
Sp. Defense: 90
Speed: 125

Dudebot -(Lv. 30)-> Dudebot5000

Base Happiness - whatisthisidonteven (Lowest)

Base EXP - OVER 9000!!!1!1!

Weight: 150 lbs

Wild Hold Item: 'Bot Belt
Item Ability: To be held by Dudebot5000. Prevents confusion and self-inflicted stat loss.

EV Profit: 2 Attack, 1 Speed

Moves:
 -Meteor Mash
 -Outrage
 -Dragon Dance
 -Aerial Ace
50 - Overheat
60 - Close Combat
70 - EQuake
80 - Magma Storm
90 - Brave Bot (Bird)
100 - Draco Meteor
100 - Psycho Boost

Couldn't think of many good moves that fit me. =P
And yes, the only possible type to get Supereffective on me if Fighting. >=D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on September 09, 2009, 01:09:56 am
...

Could someone send me a PM explaining this to me?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Skullkeepa14 on September 09, 2009, 02:26:29 am
I've been aching for the new pokemon games! Can't decide which one heartgold or soulsilver. (Right now competing against the elite four on platinum. All my good pokemon are on my pearl!) 0:)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on September 09, 2009, 10:00:16 am
@flipz-

Well...

ask Blade or Dudebot.  :P

@Skullkeepa-what's your Pearl Team?

EDIT:

*shrieks like little girl*

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEE!

http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml

HG/SS=EPIC WIN. =D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on September 09, 2009, 08:53:58 pm
Darn, you beat me to it. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on September 09, 2009, 08:56:02 pm
Oh yeah.

*Can't wait much longer*


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Skullkeepa14 on September 10, 2009, 02:50:48 am
@flipz-

Well...

ask Blade or Dudebot.  :P

@Skullkeepa-what's your Pearl Team?

EDIT:

*shrieks like little girl*

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEE!

http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml

HG/SS=EPIC WIN. =D


Pearl team: sceptile, Blastoise, Infernape, Fully evolved gible (wats his name), Weavile, Salamence (New to team!. I have over 150 pokemon in my pokemon vault. *Skullkeepa14 twitching after seeing the new pokemon available in the new games* OMG ALL RARE POKEMON AVAILABLE IN THE NEW GAMES! EVEN LATIOS AND LATIAS. On serebii.net, The johto gym leaders have been released with their new pokemon. :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 10, 2009, 09:28:08 am
*Has been following since yesterday morning* I was there when only up to Bugsy and around Whitney was revealed. And yes, HG/SS is epicness, even if people hate the fact that the gym leaders didn't get changed in a remake and are apparently epicly disappointed. >_>

Told ya people got it early DT =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on September 10, 2009, 09:51:46 am
Well, Serebii has his copy, so  info should come flooding out now.

^_^Celebii is in the 'Dex!

I wonder if we'll be getting a battle Tower in this game...

EDIT: On SerebiiForums, it said there is a battle frontier. ^_^

I am serious when I say this could be the best Pokemon game eva.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 10, 2009, 09:54:51 am
1. Yep. And PokeBeach as well.

2. Yep. That's a good sign.

3. Battle Frontier's already been confirmed for a while, and as it's the same as Platinum's Battle Tower's confirmed as well. ;)

4. That was confirmed as confirmed could be as soon as HG/SS was announced, as there was no way they were taking that out. ;)

/EDIT: Serebii overworld sprite=awesomeness(I'm gonna use the Japanese names I rememebr. >>;)

//EDIT: !! Partners can be turned off =O Or maybe not, judging from Serebii's last post...

///EDIT: Clarification about the partner thing:
Quote
15:48; If you're in a small area and have a big Pokémon follow you, it will return to its ball

////EDIT: Silver has new default names.
Quote
If you're playing HeartGold, your rival's default name would be "Soul"
If you're playing SoulSilver, your rival's default name would be "Heart"

/////EDIT: DT: Yep, that's what I've been saying for months. =P

In unrelated news, I'm currently laughing at PokeBeach's coverage, as everytime they mention New Bark Town, they call it Littleroot town. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on September 10, 2009, 10:06:41 am
Cool.

Hm....Blade, how much extra do you think ti would cost to import this game? =P

And we might need to get a doctor....*imagines him having heart attack when he sees all this* XP


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 10, 2009, 10:10:15 am
I'm wondering the same thing. Also note that we haven't really seen the PokeWalker in action, which'll be more epicness to add onto this, which is just the beginning of the game. =P

Arceus Event info up on Serebii.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on September 10, 2009, 10:14:00 am
@Arceus info-WHERE!?! Link NAO. I haven't gotten any event Pokemon, but Arceus I refuse to miss.

EDIT: I see it, but I don't see anything about getting the Azure Flute. WHEN WILL THAT NINTENDO EVENT COME!?!

I better beat my Diamond again...Yeah, that could be important.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 10, 2009, 10:21:22 am
HGSS details box on the front page of Serebii's news page(Link (http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml)), it appears you need to box your entire party, save Arceus, before the event fully activates and completes. It's near the end of the spoiler box.

... Wait, did you think I meant the event to get Arceus? I meant the one requiring Arceus to get the Level 1 Dragons...

/EDIT: Apparently all the berry locations are Apricorns now, according to PokeBeach, and one of the staff on the Serebii Forums say it's quicker to save the game than Plat, which is good.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on September 10, 2009, 11:06:34 am
*sigh of relief*

D/P/P saves so slow. Faster saving will be welcomed.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 10, 2009, 02:32:35 pm
Lot of other new stuff, and strangely the accessory case is given to you by Kotone/Hibiki...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on September 10, 2009, 08:10:19 pm
Check this out: http://stuff.veekun.com/hgss.png (http://stuff.veekun.com/hgss.png)  :o :o :o

HG/SS Pokemon sprites!!!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on September 10, 2009, 08:18:43 pm
*gasp*

EPICNESS!!

I may need to rethink my SS team....Scizor may be added.

T-Minus (less than) two hours to the release of HG/SS in Japan.

*sigh* But why did they have to release it on the day of the....event?

Which starter are you guys going with? I'm taking Feraligatr. They're all UU though, if I'm not mistaken.

*looks at Scizor* he might be getting a spot in my team.

I can't wait to try out the GTS and wi-fi in SS. Assuming they support WPA. Which I believe they will.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 11, 2009, 09:54:27 am
Gen 5 new Pokemon in the next movie, I call it now. =P

Rock Climb's in... But was anyone expecting them to actually change up the HMs and include Whirlpool instead of De-fog? ... Actually, I kinda was.

And yes, these are currently the best games ever, and will easily eat up a ton of my time, so when these release, don't expect to see me for quite some time.

Red... =O

/EDIT: The Red picture is up on Serebii's coverage box on the front page now!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on September 11, 2009, 10:02:19 am
Ditto.

By the way, don't expect to see me much next week. Maybe in the morning, but other than that I'll have school and Scribblenauts and the most epic mario game eva-M&L: Bowser's Insider Story.

Forretres is beginning to see some progress in training...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 11, 2009, 10:28:59 am
.... Massive spoilers approaching.






















































... Hey guys. You guys remember R/S/E, right? And Steven? And you heard about the Hoenn starters being in HG/SS? ... Well, Serebii just confirmed who gives you them... Steven Stone does.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on September 11, 2009, 10:53:12 am
Kewl.

Mudkip FTW!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 11, 2009, 10:57:40 am
Also, I'm laughing at Zapdos just hanging out calmly in front of the Power Plant. =P

Here's my theory for all this though... It's not Red who disturbs the nests and causes them to fly to Sinnoh... It's Gold/Kotone.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on September 11, 2009, 11:13:11 am
Or Green. I wouldn't be surprised if he went after them and startled them.

I'm looking forward to Mewtwo ^_^ Like I said, we're needing Gen 3 less and less...

Wait, if Gen 5 starts, wouldn't we need a new handheld for it? *looks around, doesn't notice Dsi* Because, with the exception of Pal Park and R/B to G/S, two Gens don't generally interact much.

And it appears Defog has been canned, to be replaced by Whirlpool...thank goodness. I hated Defog. To me, it was the only major flaw of D/P/P. Besides the Fontier being too easy...

And yeah, I find it dissapointing that we get the same trainers at the battle frontier...if they use the same Pokemon, I'll be pretty ticked off.

Quote from: Blade
New Pokemon will appear in the next movie. Called it.

I'll call your bluff and raise you a cookie.

Well, you are probably right, *looks at Destiny Deoxes and The Mystery of Mew*


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 11, 2009, 11:30:05 am
1. True, while he's epic and all, he can startle them. =P

2. Mewtwo's confirmed and looking awesome.

3. Eh, possibly, but there's apparently no plan for a new one...

4. Already mentioned that. ;)

5. They probably will, to retain compatibility with Platinum somehow.

6. I'm not bluffing, and you agreed with me. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on September 11, 2009, 03:13:16 pm
OMG Sinnoh evolutions in Johto Dex =O

Or only some, and I can see why...

Gen 5 new Pokemon in the next movie, I call it now. =P

I actually drew some Gen 5 Pokemon ideas. It is sad that Pokemon doesn't accept ideas...

One of them is a Sea Turtle with a Water/Steel type named "Steelonia", which is Steel+Chelonia. It does not evolve.

I drew the "dragons" of Gen 5, based off wyverns.

The bugs of this Gen are:

Larvagot --> Pupagot --> Flyma

Yes, based off flies.

And I gave an evolution to Farfetch'd, named Diometross, since I want to base it off an Albatross. 


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 11, 2009, 03:19:29 pm
Only some, the five that evolve with moves.

Those sound pretty cool actually. =)

/EDIT: Ooh, GB Player in Celadon. Sweet =D And if you don't know, the GB Player is a Key Item that allows you to listen to the original music. =)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 11, 2009, 04:30:11 pm
And with that said, let's hope that Gen 5 is either tradable with Gen 4, ala R/G/B/Y and G/S/C, or they have a double card thing like a Pal Park or something, if it's a new handheld.

And yeah, and have you noticed a lot of them are level 50 or Under? I believe the only one may be Mewtwo that isn't...

What I wanna know is how you get that ExtremeSpeed Dratini by breeding if nothing you can breed Dratini can learn it. >_>


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on September 11, 2009, 08:38:20 pm
Yeah, I hope Gen 4 and Gen 5 can connect.

I actually kinda hope there isn't a new handheld though.I just got my Dsi, and I don't want to buy a new console >_>

At this point, I'm not totally sure if I'll need my old DS Lite anymore once we get HG/SS....Like he said, pretty much every Pokemon will be available in this Gen.

There's something I don't get-
If Celebii is so dang hard to get, then why is it in the OU Tier?

Speaking of Celebii, again he is right, that guy is not doing anything good for his health...

Oh, and you said all changes made in HG/SS are banned, right? Because It would be kinda a pain to keep track of what not to use.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on September 11, 2009, 09:10:49 pm
Correct, all HG/SS additions are banned for this round of battling.

And I feel bad for Serebii. =/

I fail to see any new consoles being released in the upcoming year, so GenV should be on the DS again. =D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on September 12, 2009, 10:06:24 am
Well, there are rumors floating around about a new home console, codenamed "Nintendo Black", coming out in 2012...but I guess that's off-topic.

But in the next tournament, will they be legal?

And yeah, I don't think Serebii is doing anything good for his health...

does that guy even have a job? Or is Serebii.net his job?

You know, even if we can't be sure about the PMD Wii games or Melee Scramble panning out, I just wish nintendo would make a good home-console Pokemon game, like Colluseum or Gale of Darkness.

*needs to start working on competitive team*

I'll be using Heracross, but Serebii is kinda ambigious when it comes to looking at things like locations.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 12, 2009, 11:07:20 am
I'd say that they'd be banned until HG/SS comes out here, myself.

I've been going through the Battle Hall last night, and have got my Garchomp to an over 100 streak, after finally getting both Ice and Dragon to ten first(Ice kept haxing me until I put Brick Break on it. ><), switching off battle animations to speed them up. ... I really need BP.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on September 12, 2009, 11:30:22 am
I don't really like Garchomp. Or reaally any Ub3rs.

Speaking of which, I hate Cynthia and her Garchomp D=

Battle Hall, huh? A good Battle Hall Pokemon is Electivire.

Electivire

Thunderbolt
Ice Punch/Fire Punch
Brick Break
Earthquake

It works, even without EVs or items. Although those would probably improve your chances...

If you're looking for BP, stay away from the Battle Hall. Other than beating Argenta, there isn't any good way to get BP there. I'd reccomend Battle Factory.

Speaking of which, even though it was a month or so back, I got haxed by Noland >_<

Today I plan to get my Mudkip and finish EV Training Forretress. Either or.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on September 12, 2009, 11:39:29 am
At tip for Battle Hall Electivire: DO NOT RUN BUG OR GHOST WITHOUT FIRE PUNCH. YOU WILL GET HAXED BY SHEDINJA.

Anyway, currently running the BF for BP. And maybe get a Battle Hall silver. If I feel like it.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on September 12, 2009, 11:44:44 am
Yes, I have been haxed by Shedinja before. That Pokemon should be banned from teh hall.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: HQuiff on September 12, 2009, 12:24:10 pm
Quote
Eh, I'm pretty big with the series. :)  I'm don't battle competitively that much, but I have a competitive team built for the Overused Tier.  If anyone wants to battle me, just ask, and I'll do so.  However, a word of caution:  I play for keeps, and I play by competitive standards, so if you come across me in a battle, watch out. ;) 

Also, if anyone needs help with getting anything in the National Pokedex, just ask, and I'll see how I can help.  I have 486 Pokemon registered as caught in my Pokedex, excluding Mew, Lugia, Ho-oh, Celebi, and Jirachi.  If you need help with that, as well, just ask. ;) 

In general, I believe I'm a "Renaissance Man" of sorts in Pokemon.  I'm well-rounded in all aspects, so I can give advice for pretty much all aspects of the games.  I currently have four Trainer Card stars, and I'm aiming to get my fifth before Platinum comes out.  I wish there wasn't so much haxing at the Battle Tower. >_<

Meanwhile, I estimated Shaymin's US release date to when and where it would be released.  I said that it would be released in the first trimester of February at Toys R Us stores.  Low and behold, it's being released from February 8-14, at Toys R Us. ;D  Also, Regigigas will be released through Toys R Us on March 8 (the day before my birthday :) ) through March 21, the day before the US release of Platinum Version.  I'm usually good at estimating these kinds of things. Although Nintendo completely floored me when they announced the US release date of Platinum WAY earlier than I had estimated. 

Also, if you need a team rated, or if you need help with constructing a team, you can ask me.  As some might know, I'm good at rating things. ;)  Because I'm so involved at SerebiiForums, I'm constantly immersed in learning about the inner game mechanics of the game, so I know what Pokemon work, and what styles fit them best, and what don't.  I'm a good person to ask this kind of stuff. 

I completed the entire game of Pokemon Ranger: Shadows of Almia, and, during Thanksgiving, my brother deleted my file.  I still haven't been able to make it up yet, but it's mainly because I haven't had time. :( 

Meanwhile, Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of the Sky is starting to reveal its first details via CoroCoro.  It appears to be a sequel to Explorers of Time and Darkness, and will have a release date in the Spring, more likely around April or May. 

Movie 12 is starting to release some more news, and it is anticipated that Arceus will be revealed in the next issue of CoroCoro, which will be released next month. 

I'm probably going to address the GSC remake issue in another topic. ;)

I own Pokemon Diamond, though I prefer Emerald really. And, actually I think the Region is cooler too. Currently I have in my squad:
1. Golem - 79
2. Metagross - 76
3. Milotic - 44 (I need to level her up)
4. Snorlax - 78 (Hurray!)
5. Exeggutor - 79
6. ? - 56
I hope to have Camerupt there soon once I level him up!

The last one died, so discuss the popular Nintendo series and it's spinoffs here =)

In-Topic Links:
B~T's Guide to EV training (http://mln.smfforfree4.com/index.php/topic,2447.msg99091.html#msg99091)
B~T's guide to IVs (http://mln.smfforfree4.com/index.php/topic,2447.msg80975.html#msg80975)
B~T's explanation of EV gain (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.msg133684.html#msg133684)

/EDIT: Adding Release Date for the Japanese version of HeartGold and SoulSilver to the calendar.

Oh, and guess what! I caught a Latios yesterday! :o I was just surfing calming looking for some berries to blend for my Feebas, at the time, and what do you know? There pops the legendery himself! Hurray, I say throwing my Masterball at him!  ;D

The last one died, so discuss the popular Nintendo series and it's spinoffs here =)

In-Topic Links:
B~T's Guide to EV training (http://mln.smfforfree4.com/index.php/topic,2447.msg99091.html#msg99091)
B~T's guide to IVs (http://mln.smfforfree4.com/index.php/topic,2447.msg80975.html#msg80975)
B~T's explanation of EV gain (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.msg133684.html#msg133684)

/EDIT: Adding Release Date for the Japanese version of HeartGold and SoulSilver to the calendar.

Oh, and guess what! I caught a Latios yesterday! :o I was just surfing calming looking for some berries to blend for my Feebas, at the time, and what do you know? There pops the legendery himself! Hurray, I say throwing my Masterball at him!  ;D

Oh yeah... I also caught Deyoxis (I don't know how to spell it)! By using the Action Replay cheat f course! ;)

/EDIT: Merging Triple Posts. -- Blade


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on September 12, 2009, 12:44:37 pm
Oh, and guess what! I caught a Latios yesterday! :o I was just surfing calming looking for some berries to blend for my Feebas, at the time, and what do you know? There pops the legendery himself! Hurray, I say throwing my Masterball at him!  ;D

1. That's great!  :)

I failed at catching Latios...

But at least you have a Wobbuffet in the 3rd Gen to help catch Latios...

2. You do not need to quote the first post. You can just simply type.

3. Please do not double post. You may be used to it in the LMBs, but this is not allowed in MLNO. If you want to add on to your post, use the "modify" button.  ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on September 12, 2009, 12:44:40 pm
...

HQuiff, maybe we haven't made this clear....

You are NOT allowed to make two posts or more in a row under most circumstances.

Do you EV Train your Pokemon, HQuiff?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on September 12, 2009, 12:45:58 pm
And do you have Wi-Fi access?

If so, you could join his Video game tournament.  :)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 12, 2009, 12:51:08 pm
You'll need to use Pokemon Diamond of course, since Emerald can't make use of the DS' Wi-Fi capabilities, but it wouldn't be that hard to migrate the Pokemon provided that you've beaten the Elite Four in Diamond, but the move changes and new Pokemon are very good in Diamond, even if you prefer the region and characters of Emerald(... To be honest, I kinda do as well, but that's partially because of the colour scheme of the player characters in Emerald. =P). Though, you have to try HeartGold and SoulSilver when it comes out. =)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: HQuiff on September 12, 2009, 12:56:50 pm
...

HQuiff, maybe we haven't made this clear....

You are NOT allowed to make two posts or more in a row under most circumstances.

Do you EV Train your Pokemon, HQuiff?

I really don't know how to stop it! And everything explanation Im getting doesn't make sense! Please, can somebody do something for me!  :-[ ???


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 12, 2009, 12:59:47 pm
Just, when you see you're the last author in a topic, don't psot again, instead edit your post with the EDIT button with the (http://images.smfboards.com/Themes2/default/images/buttons/modify.gif) beside it, or look for the (http://images.smfboards.com/Themes2/default/images/buttons/modify.gif) to the right of your post if you have quick edit enabled somehow.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on September 12, 2009, 02:27:45 pm
...

Serebii said he has all of the non-wifi Legendaries in HG/SS listed...

And Celebi isn't on the list...

Although for some reason, in all of the pics he has, Celebi is following him.

Oh come on! To get Rayquaza, you have to have a Groudon and Kyogre from HG/SS. Grrrrrrrr.....


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 12, 2009, 03:39:04 pm
*Cough* You can trade from HG/SS to D/P/Pt from the time you get the Pokedex at the beginning of the game you know. ;)

And we know one HeartGold player here. And I'm getting SoulSilver, so if you can use Wi-Fi, then either way you can get one(Though if it's mine, I'd rather it just be borrowed. ;))


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on September 12, 2009, 03:48:17 pm
Well, if there's a cloning glitch in HG/SS...

I'll probably be able to trade with you though.

Yes, "borrowed"...let's just go with that.  ;D

Hm...Serebii found something relating to Celebi...something about Giovani text.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 12, 2009, 04:46:31 pm
It's only a possibility, don't think it's confirmed just yet...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on September 12, 2009, 05:09:33 pm
IMO Machamp has the coolest new sprite in HGSS. Runners up would be:
-Lugia
-Steelix
-Clefairy(only because the plat sprite was awful)
-Kabutops
-and Celebi lloks decent.

Machamp's sprite is so much better than Plat, and the reaching forwards pose is very nice.

And the game as a whole looks really good graphic wise, and although I'm not enthusiastic for the Pokethlon ts a good idea to add to a game. Red's pokemon are leveled up, although I'm not sure why he sticks with a Pikachu(I see for storyline reasons, but Raichu is much better(minus Light Orb or whatever that item is).

The E-4 looks a lot better than anything, and the last room is exceptionally well done(although Cynthia's team and room are better IMO). I'm glad the E-4 gets leveled up, though, because if I recall the GSC E4 didn't level up, and you were stuck training your team against a max of level 50, except for the hike into Mt Silver to fight Red.

and as for the HGSS tally:

HG: Him
SS: Blade, ZLS(that is what I plan anyways, and hopefully I'll have wi-fi by then(my emerald Rayquaza is Hardy Nature >_>))

and my starters will be:
Todidile(since I have a Cyndaquil in Plat)
Charmander(I don't like the other ones)
Mudkip(Need a good Swampert)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 12, 2009, 05:13:34 pm
My starters will be...

Cyndaquil(Teh gasp! =O)
Charmander(Even though I probably will have gotten to the Green playthrough of FireRed. =P)
And probably Treecko(For obvious reasons. =P)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on September 12, 2009, 05:21:50 pm
Put meh down for SS.

Totadile (I'm gonna counter you Blade! >=D)
Bulbasaur
Mudkip (I liek Mudkipz)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on September 12, 2009, 05:38:01 pm
GENGAR!!!

Type: GHOST/POISON
Ability: Levitate - Pokemon with this ability are immune to Ground Attacks.
Tier: OU
Stats:
HP         60
Atck       65
Def        60
Sp. Atck 130
Sp. Def   75
Speed    110

Author's Opinion: With monstrous Sp. Attack as well as very good Speed at base 110, this thing is an incredible sweeper. However, its defenses are rather poor, so it will fall pretty easily.

Recommended Movesets:

Nature: Timid/Modest
Item: Choice Specs/Life Orb
EVs: 4 HP/252 Sp. Attack/252 Speed
~ Shadow Ball
~ Focus Blast
~ Thunderbolt
~ Explosion/Hidden Power Fire/Sludge Bomb/Energy Ball

If you are using Explosion, do NOT use Choice Specs. Use Life Orb instead.

Shadow Ball for STAB of course, while Focus Blast gives it good type coverage, OHKOing Tyranitar that does not have a lot of Special Defense EVs.

Thunderbolt to incinerate Gyarados and 2HKO some Suicune.

Explosion can be used to cripple Special Walls like Blissey, but beware of Protect. Hidden Power Fire counters Scizor, who can deal massive blows with Pursuit or Bullet Punch. Sludge Bomb gets STAB, but has lackluster type coverage. Energy Ball deals Swampert and Rhyperior high damage as well as any other Ground types. Gliscor receives neutral damage to Energy ball though.

Countering Gengar:

Scizor can Bullet Punch for high damage if Gengar stays in or Pursuit it if it tries to switch out.

Basically, anything with Pursuit is a counter.

Also, Sucker Punch can deal high damage to Gengar combined with its poor defenses. Spiritomb is a good user of these moves.

And yes, it is a Special Sweeper. Tht means that Blissey and Snorlax wall it if it doesn't have Focus Punch.

Steel/Psychic types do well in walling all of its attacks not named Hidden Power Fire.

(http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr213/B_T_Energized/Pokemon/Gengar_Sprite.png)


News and Improvements Section:
News section. What more?

August 7, 2009.
With his suggestion, I will add the Tier section to make things a lot helpful. It will be between the ability and stat sections. I will also link to previous reviews to make things a lot convenient in the section below. They will be listed alphabetically. Oh, and not to mention that this is also the first time I added the News Section :P.

August 11, 2009
Added separate section for the previous reviews.

August 12, 2009
Recolored Flying type.

August 20, 2009
Recolored Dragon type.

August 29, 2009
Recolored Water Type.

September 6, 2009
Recolored Normal Type. Also removed the extra spaces between horizontal rules.

September 8, 2009
Recolored Dark Type. Natures, EVs, Abilities, and Items bolded. As well as the section dividers. Originally going to make them 11 pt, but it was too big.

September 12, 2009
Bolded tier type.

Previous Reviews:
Aerodactyl: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,159071.html)
Alakazam: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,136801.html)
Arcanine: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,137912.html)
Blaziken: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,152761.html)
Dusknoir: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,136354.html)
Feraligatr: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,153726.html)
Gallade: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,152525.html)
Gyarados: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,148526.html)
Lanturn: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,164996.html)
Lucario: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,160949.html)
Meganium: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,156646.html)
Milotic: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,151952.html)
Porygon-Z: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,165129.html)
Salamence: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,148086.html)
Scizor: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,162555.html)
Skarmory: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,157008.html)
Swampert: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,162862.html)
Typhlosion: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,154326.html)
Tyranitar: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,165576.html)
Umbreon: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,136212.html)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 12, 2009, 05:41:41 pm
I can't wait to test out the PokeWalker... *Wonders how I could easily gain mass level profit...* ... Anyone notice we can effectively have 5 Pokemon trained from walking at a time, with the Day Care and this? It's the current most, as FR/LG had three available to train at a time.(Say... Did GSC allow you to have the DayCare in the route to the south of Cerulean train Pokemon too? Or was it closed like half the other things in Kanto?)

And it's okay, it's looking like I'll have a few rivals plus my red haired rival(Who is gaining more and more evidence to the claim/theory that FR/LG started...)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on September 12, 2009, 05:43:26 pm
Starters: I still cannot decide whether to get Cyndaquil or Totodile... -________-
Then it will be Charmander...
And then Mudkip. 


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 12, 2009, 05:58:09 pm
! ! !

Celebi event confirmed. What Celebi..? Apparently a... Movie Celebi. =| Aka, I don't expect to see this event wide-spread for a while.

/EDIT: Just to make sure no-one's confused, by Celebi event, I mean an event activated by Celebi. Also, apparently there's a Rotom Room in HG/SS somewhere for the form changings.

On an unrelated note, I'm now trying to get Red's manga team, but his Pikachu's evading me. =| *Silently hopes I can get it before I have to go through Mount Moon*

//EDIT: Little interesting side note... Manga Red's Pikachu is level 88. HG/SS' Red's Pikachu is level 88. Of course, this is the only reference this time around, but...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on September 12, 2009, 07:45:55 pm
...

Wait, I'm still confuzzled. WHERE DO YOU GET A DANGED NON-WIFI CELEBI IN THIS GAME!?!

Seriously...Can Celebi just be easy-ish to get for once?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on September 12, 2009, 09:56:42 pm
I'm probably definately gonna get HG, but if I'm really bored and feel like it, I may get SS too. But I doubt it.

Anyway.

With the Rotom Room in HG/SS again, this means the Special Key will be available again... ^_^


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on September 13, 2009, 06:22:35 am
i am going to get hg and ss
starters: hg tododile ss cyndaquile
idk about gen 1 and 3...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on September 13, 2009, 09:36:02 am
@DB-yes, and it should mean that I can get the Rotom Forms finally ^_^


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 13, 2009, 10:26:01 am
...

Wait, I'm still confuzzled. WHERE DO YOU GET A DANGED NON-WIFI CELEBI IN THIS GAME!?!

Seriously...Can Celebi just be easy-ish to get for once?
You can't, because that would mean it'd have to be in-game, and they'd never do that >_> But at least it'll be easier to get, as when it comes out here, it should be like Moviegigas and Movie Shaymin in that it's distributed through TRU or so(Unfortunately. As that probably means no Celebi for me. ><). Or it could be over Wi-Fi when HG/SS comes out, as the event hasn't happened yet.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on September 13, 2009, 09:02:30 pm
Oh, and-

you mentioned with teh release of these games no Pokemon would be obscenly hard to get, with the possible exception of Celebi. You forgot a Pokemon-Jirachi. The notorious Jirachi...is it even available outside of Japan?

I finally migrated a Mudkip to meh Platinum. Although I'm beginning to think there's no reason to make a competitive team if I can't use it for serious battles, besides the Frontier. And with my luck I'll just keep getting haxed like I always do >_<


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 14, 2009, 09:22:35 am
About your point in two, and the 'Practically everyone' part, I'm still trying to find that Moviegigas and Shaymin, sooo... =P

And responding to that point, it's true, but they could've done it a little faster so I could activate those two ingame events. ... They better get it figured out for the Arceus/Shiny Pichu(That's all it is, even if it has a special name...) events... >_>

... Say, can you evolve the Shiny Pichu?

/EDIT: Gen 3 kicking out is looking more and more likely of what this game is trying to do, as apparently you can get the Soul Dew in HG/SS.

//EDIT: Woot. Rotom forms are in the game without requiring the Secret Key. Just Rotom.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on September 14, 2009, 05:04:58 pm


... Say, can you evolve the Shiny Pichu?

//EDIT: Woot. Rotom forms are in the game without requiring the Secret Key. Just Rotom.
1. No. =/
2. w00t is right. Now I can get meh Rotom Formes.

Well, Jirachi is hard to get in America, you have to admit.

Yay, Soul dew.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Skullkeepa14 on September 15, 2009, 03:22:02 am
Can some1 recommend me contest moveset for example each of the challenges etc: smart beauty


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on September 15, 2009, 05:56:09 am
Depends on who you want to run on each contest.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on September 15, 2009, 02:28:31 pm
Yeah, which Pokemon will you be using? Although I'm not much for contests anyway...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on September 15, 2009, 06:42:55 pm
I'm not much for contests either, although in Emerald I won Master Rank in all 5 contests and got 5 pics taken.
Wailord-Beauty
Salamance-Cool
Latias-Smart

I forget who I used for the others, but the contest moves changed in DPt, so I can't really give any help, especially without a Pokemon that you'd like to use.

I hate how Pokemon makes pokemon exclusive. Jirachi is one of my fav pokemon, and I can't use it at all in game because I haven't gone to any events or anything.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: korchi12 on September 15, 2009, 07:00:14 pm
I'm not much for contests either, although in Emerald I won Master Rank in all 5 contests and got 5 pics taken.
Wailord-Beauty
Salamance-Cool
Latias-Smart

I forget who I used for the others, but the contest moves changed in DPt, so I can't really give any help, especially without a Pokemon that you'd like to use.

I hate how Pokemon makes pokemon exclusive. Jirachi is one of my fav pokemon, and I can't use it at all in game because I haven't gone to any events or anything.

Lol I have like 5 Jirachi. I got some pre oredered exclusive disk awhile ago when I bought Pokemon Colleseum. I just transferred them to ruby/fire red. I just can't get em on platinum.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on September 15, 2009, 09:50:43 pm
You play Pokemon korchi? 0_o

People don't tell me things anymore...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 16, 2009, 09:37:58 am
YES. FINALLY. I finally caught that darn Sassy Male Pikachu. =D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on September 16, 2009, 11:16:11 am
Why did it have to be Male?

Yeah.

And also, I don't understand how Celebi can be OU if it's so hard to get. Anyone have an explanation?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: korchi12 on September 16, 2009, 02:56:01 pm
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Yes, I'm currently going to give a little private training to korchi about Pokemon. :) 

But ddude, with the pre-order disk in question (in fact, the very disk korchi speaks of is the same one I speak of), you can, in general terms, get an infinite number of Jirachi from it.  There is no limit to how many Jirachis you can transfer from the disk to a Ruby or Sapphire version.  From there, someone can transfer bunchs of them a day (especially if they have both Ruby and Sapphire, or even multiple games of the two versions) to GenIV games, and then spread those out over Wi-Fi.  Yes, if you lack the right connections, it would seem hard to get.  But if you take one glance at SerebiiForums, which I do very regularly, you will soon realize that its status as an event legendary is almost an illusion.  Even in America, Jirachi is nowhere near as elusive as the likes of Deoxys, much less Celebi. 

By the way, Coronis at SerebiiForums (Coronis is practically Joe's best friend/right hand man there) did a lot of in-depth analysis of the coding in the game.  Coronis to Pokemon is kind of like Zonexus to MLN.  Anyway, Coronis has done in-depth looking into the games (part of this in-depth look is what discovered the whole Soul Dew thing, as well as a few rare tidbits), and Coronis has clearly stated that there are no in-game events for Mew, Celebi, or Deoxys, as some have speculated.  Not that the events would really be necessary anyway.  Mew can be gotten off of MPR at anytime, given you have a Wii with Wi-Fi.  Deoxys had his event last year (I always thought the voting for that event back in 2007 was staged, and now I think that even moreso).  Celebi is going to have an upcoming event very soon. 

Hey, guys?  We should start spreading around BT's banner.  Also, could you guys put it in your sigs at MLNTeam?  I think there's an untapped group there that could compete and join us here, and they haven't done so yet.  This might persuade their interest.  It could aid in building up numbers for the tournament.

Yeah Jirachi is kinda like catching a Pidgey to me. All I got to do is hook up my old GameCube and Infinite Jirachis.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on September 16, 2009, 08:18:27 pm
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It's OU instead of Ubers mainly because of its horendous typing (if I'm correct, Celebi has the worst type combo in the game), as well as lesser stats compared to other Ubers.  OU only means that it's a popular choice.  Celebi isn't overly abusable and powerful as is the likes of those in Ubers.  Rarity has nothing to do with it.
Oh. I thought the tiers were based on usage though...It just seems that if a Pokemon was semi-impossible to get, it couldn't be used enough to be OU.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on September 16, 2009, 08:28:08 pm
now you can pre order heart gold and soul silver on amazon.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on September 16, 2009, 09:12:07 pm
Wow. That was early. =P

*reserves a copy*

Well, I'll be getting it there most likely. I had a bad experiance @ Gamestop getting M&L-Inside Story recently, and I'm not sure I trust them. Of course, the Pokewalker could be a GS-exclusive preorder thing..

An-y-way...
I'm beginning to think my Competitive Plat. Team may never be accomplished...It would be easier to try to get it in SS, especially considering I can get my Mudkip there...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Skullkeepa14 on September 17, 2009, 02:46:51 am
Just bought my copy of heartgold, this gonna be gret. Although it is terribly glitchy and i can't read the japenese :'(


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on September 17, 2009, 12:42:10 pm
Wait, how the heck did you get a copy of HG?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on September 17, 2009, 03:03:53 pm
Just bought my copy of heartgold, this gonna be gret. Although it is terribly glitchy and i can't read the japenese :'(
Pics or it didn't happen.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on September 17, 2009, 03:11:26 pm
@ dudebot: as an admin you should set an example of good behavior. that wasn;t nice =P

skullkeepa may have got it imported from some  place in australia.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on September 17, 2009, 06:27:28 pm
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It's OU instead of Ubers mainly because of its horendous typing (if I'm correct, Celebi has the worst type combo in the game), as well as lesser stats compared to other Ubers.  OU only means that it's a popular choice.  Celebi isn't overly abusable and powerful as is the likes of those in Ubers.  Rarity has nothing to do with it.
Oh. I thought the tiers were based on usage though...It just seems that if a Pokemon was semi-impossible to get, it couldn't be used enough to be OU.
I'm pretty sure tiers are decided based on usage on Shoddy Battle, though I'm not 100% sure about that.

HGSS make Platinum look like a really bad game, IMO. The entire graphics section looks to be upgraded, and for Pokemon that's very good, seeing as how most pkmn games are 10/10 gameplay but like 4-6/10 graphics...

Wouldn't it be great if they made a Wii game of Pokemon that included the 4 regions(Kanto, Johto, Hoenn and Sinnoh) on one large map, and you could play through 32 gyms and get every pokemon? It could be like a massive remake, and the graphics could be really well done.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on September 17, 2009, 06:34:17 pm
That would be amazing. =O

I'd buy it if I had a Wii. However, the storyline'd be a pain to figure out. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Skullkeepa14 on September 18, 2009, 02:34:34 am
ok, dudebot don't believe me. Anyways can some1 help me with the part u have to get the sprayduck. I just cant read japenese. dont forget im talkin bout heartgold.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on September 18, 2009, 01:18:55 pm
If it's HG and you're the only one who has it, how would we know? >_>

ALthough Ithink you get it in that town with the Third Gym Leader, go into everyone's house in that city after beating her.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on September 18, 2009, 03:26:01 pm
You would get in Goldenrod, provided it's like G/S/C.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Skullkeepa14 on September 18, 2009, 09:55:10 pm
Thanx. u no the part where u've passed the town right at the bottom with the slowpoke. Then u go to the slightly dark place infested with paras. then u meet 2 farfechted? wat do u do? and alsohow do u get the cut hm?
P.s. My Copy Of Heartgold Was Mailed through. Me lucky! O and I chose cyndaquil and he is now at lvl 23! LOL ^-^


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Skullkeepa14 on September 19, 2009, 01:18:08 am
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I would like to state to everyone that besides a few added things (such as the kimono sisters and Rocket Executives), most of the basic gameplay is exactly the same as it was in GSC.  Most of the stuff I'm saying is coming from ten-year-old memories (I'm too old for this o__o ) of GSC, so just be aware of that. ;) 

@Skullkeepa14:  Chase the Farfetch'd around Ilex Forest until the Farfetch'd have come back to the left.  Once there, when back to the trainer, you should be awarded the HM01. 

Although I find it odd that you would ask about the Squirtbottle and then HM01, because you go to Azalea Town (and subsequently Ilex Forest) before Goldenrod and the Sudowoodo event.  Why did you ask about the Squirtbottle first?

LOL this was a mistake, You no the sudowoodo blocking the path? I thought u water it to make it irritatated and stop blocking the path. I thought this because in pokemon ranger, u water the bonsly near the start of the game. Any hoo. I've just passed the third gym leader and now i'm on route 35. Yay!!! ^-^


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 19, 2009, 11:31:55 am
DT1: Red's team is all male. Male Gentle Bulbasaur to Venusaur. Male Brave Poliwhirl to Poliwrath. Male Sassy Pikachu. Male Mild Eevee to Espeon. Male Impish Snorlax. Male Hasty Aerodactyl. Gyarados doesn't matter because I've got the wrong OT for it, even though everything else is correct aside from the nickname. T_T(Red... In the manga. =P)

Korchi: ... Can I have one eventually? =P

DT2: Importing probably.

Skullkeepa: Yeah, you have to water it, but you have to get to Goldenrod and beat the gym there first.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on September 19, 2009, 01:35:48 pm
Give me a Johto Pokemon that I haven't reviewed yet.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on September 19, 2009, 06:29:56 pm
Meganuim.

And you know what, due to my slightly increasingly busy life, plus B~T does it a lot better than me, I'll cancel meh daily review.  Sorry on the miniscule chance someone here reads my review.  :P



Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on September 19, 2009, 07:13:05 pm
Meganuim.

And you know what, due to my slightly increasingly busy life, plus B~T does it a lot better than me, I'll cancel meh daily review.  Sorry on the miniscule chance someone here reads my review.  :P



I already did that one...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on September 20, 2009, 08:50:12 am
how about suicune?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 20, 2009, 12:14:56 pm
Blissey. =P No, scratch that, Furret, it's the Bibarel of Gen2. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on September 20, 2009, 12:46:16 pm
Kingdra? I love that pokemon.

Has the American date for HGSS been revealed yet?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 20, 2009, 12:58:24 pm
Nope... If it was, it'd be up there with the Japanese Release Date.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on September 20, 2009, 01:08:16 pm
Blissey. =P No, scratch that, Furret, it's the Bibarel of Gen2. =P
Not really. If it was, I'd be cursing it's name to the skys. =P

You know, I've always wanted to say that. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 20, 2009, 01:13:00 pm
Oh trust me, it is. There's nothing worse than encountering a level 2 Pokemon for the first time when your Pokemon's general levels are in the 60s >_>


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on September 20, 2009, 01:15:13 pm
Nice. =P

But still, I don't find it to be of the same annoyance level. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 20, 2009, 01:18:43 pm
*Shrugs* Okay then. Bring on Blissey then. That'd be about the same level of annoyance when you're facing one that just won't die.(Don't even get me started on RestTalk Snorlax. ... Even if I'm using one. >>;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on September 20, 2009, 01:53:52 pm
You know, I enjoy pwning both Blissey and Snorlax with Infernape, Electivire, and sometimes Weavile. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 20, 2009, 01:55:15 pm
Obviously you don't know the brokenness of the PokeFlute+Rest. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on September 20, 2009, 02:19:05 pm
I believe I lack that knowledge. Care to explain? =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 20, 2009, 02:28:02 pm
Rest heals fully, yet puts you to sleep. The Pokeflute, however, wakes up any sleeping Pokemon on the field. That includes the resting Pokemon. That, I believe, is part of the reason you can't use items like that in competitive play. ... I just found that out yesterday as I was trying to catch my Impish Snorlax. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on September 22, 2009, 07:24:48 pm
FURRET!
BLISSEY!

Type:NORMAL
Ability: Natural Cure - Pokemon with this ability have any status healed when they switch out.
           Serene Grace: Moves' secondary effects are doubled.
Tier: OU
Stats:
HP         255
Atck       10
Def        10
Sp. Atck 75
Sp. Def   135
Speed    55

Author's Opinion: This is one of OU's best Special Walls, especially since its is paired with a reliable Recovery Move. w00t. Just beware of Physical attacks, which can severely dent any Blissey.

Recommended Movesets:

Nature: Bold
Item: Leftovers
EVs:252 Defense/80 Sp. Attack/176 Sp. Defense
~ Wish
~ Protect
~ Thunderbolt/Flamethrower/Ice Beam
~ Toxic

Wish+Protect=Awesome combo. Protect helps it shield it from any attack, particularly Physical ones, as well as Explosion. You have three attacking options, which hit different Pokemon.

Toxic can rack up residual damage. Note that Flamethrower covers basically any Pokemon not named Heatran that resists Toxic.

Nature: Bold
Item: Leftovers
EVs:252 Defense/40 Sp. Attack/216 Sp. Defense
~ Aromatherapy
~ Softboiled
~ Thunderbolt/Flamethrower/Ice Beam/Seismic Toss
~ Thunder Wave/Toxic

The key thing about this set is that it has Aromatherapy support, which cancels out all of your party's status. Just be careful, as by the time you use Armoatherapy, a Physical attacked can come in and threaten it, especially Pursuit users. *stares at Tyranitar*

Ice Beam covers Salamence that tries to switch in. Thunder Wave cripples fast sweepers.

Why is it that I must depend on Smogon SO much for EVs... -____-

Countering Blissey:

Any Physical Attack, especially Fighting moves, can pretty much put a dent in Blissey severely. Nasty Plot Porygon can be a problem despite it being a Special Attacker.

Stallers that resists all its moves can just stall it out of PP.

Pain Split hurts especially.

(http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr213/B_T_Energized/Pokemon/Blissey_Sprite.png)


News and Improvements Section:
News section. What more?

August 7, 2009.
With his suggestion, I will add the Tier section to make things a lot helpful. It will be between the ability and stat sections. I will also link to previous reviews to make things a lot convenient in the section below. They will be listed alphabetically. Oh, and not to mention that this is also the first time I added the News Section :P.

August 11, 2009
Added separate section for the previous reviews.

August 12, 2009
Recolored Flying type.

August 20, 2009
Recolored Dragon type.

August 29, 2009
Recolored Water Type.

September 6, 2009
Recolored Normal Type. Also removed the extra spaces between horizontal rules.

September 8, 2009
Recolored Dark Type. Natures, EVs, Abilities, and Items bolded. As well as the section dividers. Originally going to make them 11 pt, but it was too big.

September 12, 2009
Bolded tier type.

Previous Reviews:
Aerodactyl: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,159071.html)
Alakazam: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,136801.html)
Arcanine: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,137912.html)
Blaziken: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,152761.html)
Dusknoir: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,136354.html)
Feraligatr: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,153726.html)
Gallade: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,152525.html)
Gyarados: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,148526.html)
Lanturn: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,164996.html)
Lucario: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,160949.html)
Meganium: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,156646.html)
Milotic: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,151952.html)
Porygon-Z: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,165129.html)
Salamence: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,148086.html)
Scizor: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,162555.html)
Skarmory: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,157008.html)
Swampert: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,162862.html)
Typhlosion: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,154326.html)
Tyranitar: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,165576.html)
Umbreon: Here (http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,2447.0/msg,136212.html)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on September 22, 2009, 08:22:18 pm
Hm, odd-I noticed a few posts up he posted "******", yet the word's base, ****, is filtered, like it just was in this post.

OH by the way, some time within the next few days I will make a testimony to contradict Electivire's, in his words, suckiness.  :P In other words, I'm going to point out why Electivire is EPIC and deserves a spot on every competitive team.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on September 22, 2009, 08:45:21 pm
Hm, odd-I noticed a few posts up he posted "******", yet the word's base, ****, is filtered, like it just was in this post.

OH by the way, some time within the next few days I will make a testimony to contradict Electivire's, in his words, suckiness.  :P In other words, I'm going to point out why Electivire is EPIC and deserves a spot on every competitive team.

In the Smog, it shows why Electivire is easily walled... =\
I never used an Electivire, but I can easily see why it isn't really that great. Not that it's bad, but...

I do not want to link it because it has cuss words, especially inappropriate ones.



Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on September 22, 2009, 09:07:21 pm
Electivire can be easily walled? 0_o

EDIT:oooh, 2222th post in this topic  ;D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on September 22, 2009, 09:16:06 pm
I just found it. Don't link to it.

I have to say, though, Electivire's complaints make sense. His moveset does annoy me sometimes.

However, I'ma gonna keep using him until I feel like switching him out for someone else. And spending the time EV training said change. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 23, 2009, 02:27:50 pm
YESYESYES I WAS RIGHT. =D

Before I got on, I thought to myself, "I bet they'll put up the Oak's Letter event soon, due to their quickness at releasing the events lately". I WAS RIGHT! WOOHOO!! </kiina>

I'm happy, since it unlocks the Gracidea, and is a Shaymin in general. =) Now I'll just need an Arceus, and I'll be able to get all of the gen 4 Event Legends.(Since I've already got Manaphy/Phione from Diamond, which was from a trade and from Ranger)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on September 23, 2009, 02:38:41 pm
Sweet epicness. And I just got around to exploring that route, too. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 23, 2009, 02:58:23 pm
Anyway, in other news, this is what I've been up to the last few weeks.

FireRed Playthrough:
Pkmn Trainer Red
Badges: 8
Pokemon Captured: 107
Pokemon Seen: 138
Time: 85:00
Team:
Aerodactyl(Hasty, Male, Nickname: Aero) Level 53
Dugtrio(Quiet, Male, Nickname: D.A.S.H.) Level 54
Pikachu(Sassy, Male, Nickname: Pika) Level 54
Snorlax(Impish, Male, Nickname: Lax) Level 53
Venusaur(Gentle, Male, Nickname: Saur) Level 54
Poliwrath(Brave, Male, Nickname: Poli) Level 54

And my other member of the team once I migrate it, since I can't evolve it to it's form on this:
Eevee(Mild, Male, Nickname: Vee) Level 25


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on September 23, 2009, 07:06:00 pm
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What about me saying ******? o__O 
Oh, forget about it. =P

...I can't think of anything Pokemon-related to say...

HG/SS wait=too long. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on September 23, 2009, 07:07:11 pm
EXTRA SPECIAL (NOT-SO-FUNNY-AT-ALL ) BIBAREL REVIEW ADDITION:

STARRING...

OTHER, BLADE AND DUDEBOT!!!

Omega Blademan:  Hi. I'm here to tell you this extra special set for Bibarel I have been thinking up with my mind for like 3 months now. Ya wanna know what it issssss... ?  

Dudebot: GGGGGRRRRRAAAAAAAUUUUUUUGGGGG GHH

Omega Blademan:  Itttsss...

Nature: Any nature works perfectly
Items: You don't need one =)
EV Spread: Any combo works perfectly.
Ability: Same as above
~ Cut
~ Rock Smash/Strength
~ Waterfall/Surf
~ Rock Climb/Strength

Cut and Rock Climb are there for that oh-so-lovely STAB. And Strength too. Also Waterfall and Surf. Rock Smash is a good option since it has a good chance of lowering the opponent;s defenses, leaving you an easier time to sweep. The reason you have two/three Normal moves is that you don't have to worry about being PP Stalled of your STAB.  :)

Rock Smash plus a normal move make a GREAT neutral combination other than the Ghost type, which you can hit with Waterfall/Surf anyways. Waterfall has less power, but Surf has more, offsetting its 55 Base Special Attack stat.

Dudebot: GGGGGRRRRRAAAAAAAUUUUUUUGGGGG GHH

Something looks fishy about this set... hmmm...

Other: @Blade - O_____________________o         >_>      <_<       >_<        what is this i dont even

Two STAB moves? You NEVER put two same STABs on one set (There are exceptions though). Rock Smash? Superpower is way much better. And why Surf? Waterfall is the better option, since his Attack stat is decent, unlike its putrid 55 Special Attack stat.

And why cut? >_> Strength has more power, and is more accurate than Cut. Not that I recommend Strength though.

I can't even see why you would want to ditch EVs, Nature, and all the important things in competitive play. They play a big role whether you win or not.

In my opinion, this may be a help in-game, but this set is just horrid. You definitely need a lesson in competitive play. -_-

Omega Blademan:  But Superpower lowers its attack which it needs...

Other: But Superpower is better in the long run. There's this thing called switching out.  ;)

Omega Blademan: You win >_>...

Dudebot: GGGGGRRRRRAAAAAAAUUUUUUUGGGGG GHH

Maybe not that funny. But I attempted it though. He doesn't sound too much like him in my opinion... I over-exaggerated Dudebot as well... =\

Maybe I'm going to get one on my competitive team. But breeding for good IVs is just plain annoying... -_-

As well as sufficient Egg moves.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on September 23, 2009, 07:14:57 pm
At least I enjoyed it, B~T. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on September 24, 2009, 03:17:42 pm
lol bt. i found it funny


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 24, 2009, 03:24:05 pm
xD Nice. ... Why does that resemble my Bibarel? 0_o I'm serious... I'm checking to make sure it's not missing. =P </jk>


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on September 24, 2009, 03:39:21 pm
i will do a review of rattata's 31337N355

Stats
HP: 30 =O
Attack: 99 =O
Defense: 5 =O
Special attack: 1 =O
Special defense: 24 =O
Speed: 142 =O


Nature: jolly
Items: lagging tail
Evs: 252 a 252 spe
Ability: run away =D
Moves:
hyperbeam, 150 power, and stab
tail wip, makes sweeping easier
focous energy, critical hits ftw!
ice beam, ice is cool
_____________________________ _____________________________ _____________________________ ____________________________

i will now welcome feedback, and i will respond to defend my case =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on September 24, 2009, 03:46:57 pm
I did too.

And now, for my own Parody *collective groaning in the background*

One last Review for meh, starring Dudebot, Blade, Other and B~T!-

Togekiss!
Guest Writer Dudebot; Commentary: Everyone else
Author's Opinion:
Togekiss Rocks.

Stats

HP:Epic
Atk:Epic-ish
Def: Epic-ish
Sp. Atk: Epic
Sp. Def: Epic
Speed: Epic-ish
Tier: MAJORAWESOMEEPICNESS
Reccomended Setup
Nature:Unimportant
Item:King's Rock
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: Not really that big of a deal.
Function: Dudebot Clause

Moves:
~Air Slash/Body Slam
~Thunder Wave
~Not Important
~Not Important

Using Togekiss
Use Air Slash/Body Slam. Use Thunder Wave whenever. Keep making the foe flinch until they faint Blade:*groans*

Countering Togekiss:
Togekiss can be countered? 0_o

And now, for our guest commentary:
Blade:*groans* I hate this set. It keeps killing me.
B~T: Something seems wrong here...
Other:
Something wrong?? 0____________________________ ____________o
This set is beyond messed up.

You didn't include accurate Base Stats or Tier, Dudebot. Not to mention you didn't even list an actual Function. It's called ParaFlinch. -_- And calling EVs and Natures unimportant? Dudebot, I seriously need to retrain you ASAP. NOT LISTING TWO OF THE POKEMON'S FOUR MOVES!?! I don't usually use CAPS, but this....What is this I don't even

B~T:Oh, so that's whats wrong with it.

Blade: *groan*

I hope you all enjoyed that as much as I did =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on September 24, 2009, 03:55:54 pm
wt about mah review?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 24, 2009, 03:59:59 pm
No, this is the best Ratatta set(And everyone will now hate me for it)

Nature: Any
Item: Focus Sash
EVs: Any
Ability: Any
Moves: Quick Attack
(I can't remember if it's Endeavour or Reversal)
Any others I guess...
Level(REALLY IMPORTANT): 1

Just use the second move(I don't know which it is... I think it may be Endeavour)  first, the other Pokemon will go first, and attack, but the Sash will kick in and block it. The move will then knock the opposing Pokemon to 1 HP. Next turn, use Quick Attack, and unless the opposing Pokemon also uses Quick attack, it'll faint the Pokemon before the opponent can faint you.

DT: AAAARGH MY NEMESIS. ... Yet I still plan on using it. Funny how that keeps happening to stuff xD


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on September 24, 2009, 04:02:44 pm
@Blade-huh? I've never faced FEAR Rattata before.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 24, 2009, 04:08:04 pm
I was talking 'bout Togekiss when pointing out you. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on September 24, 2009, 04:18:46 pm
No, this is the best Ratatta set(And everyone will now hate me for it)

Nature: Any
Item: Focus Sash
EVs: Any
Ability: Any
Moves: Quick Attack
(I can't remember if it's Endeavour or Reversal)
Any others I guess...
Level(REALLY IMPORTANT): 1

Just use the second move(I don't know which it is... I think it may be Endeavour)  first, the other Pokemon will go first, and attack, but the Sash will kick in and block it. The move will then knock the opposing Pokemon to 1 HP. Next turn, use Quick Attack, and unless the opposing Pokemon also uses Quick attack, it'll faint the Pokemon before the opponent can faint you.

DT: AAAARGH MY NEMESIS. ... Yet I still plan on using it. Funny how that keeps happening to stuff xD
actually i think mine is better, rattata has enough speed to dominate nfe, (though it may be a tier >.>) and quick attack has minimal power.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 24, 2009, 04:24:10 pm
Pfft, it doesn't need power when your opponent is at 1 HP because of Endeavour. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on September 24, 2009, 05:35:58 pm
what about stealth rock, and such? fear is easily countered >=)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on September 24, 2009, 05:46:24 pm
I played a Fear Rattata on Shoddy Battle, and my lead Jirachi flinched it lol Easy enough to beat.

Kingdra
Water/Dragon
Base Stats:
HP:75
Atk:95
Def:95
SpAtk:95
SpDef:95
Speed: 85
Abilities:
-Swift Swim: Pokemon's Speed Stat is doubled in the rain, however, Speed is not doubled on the turn that rain is summoned into play.
-Sniper: Critical Hits do 3x damage instead of 2x

Recommended Setup:
Kingdra@ Life Orb/Damp Rock
Swift Swim Modest
252 SpAtk 164Speed 92HP
-Rain Dance
-Hydro Pump/Surf
-Dragon Pulse/Draco Meteor
-Signal Beam/HPElectric

The item of choice depends on who is on your team. Use Life Orb if you've got Rain Dancers on your team already that bring in the rain. With the Evs as they are you have a Above Average Special Atk, backed up by powerful STAB and Rain boosted attacks. In the rain Swift Swin doubles your speed, outspeeding almost all choice scarf users.
Rain Dance is required in the moveset in case Kingdra is a late game Sweeper and needs to set up rain. Hydro Pump versus Surf is Power versus PP and accuracy. Dragon pulse is the better option if you plan to leave Kingdra until the end of the battle, but Draco Meteor is better when you can still switch. The last move is wether you  want to be able to beat Celebi and dark and psychic types, or Gyarados and Vaporean scare you.

You can also go with a mixed moveset, in which case you'll need to switch the nature of the set to Mild or Lonely. The EV spread will need to be adjusted to give emphasis on atk and less on SpAtk. The moveset should be changed to:
-Dragon Dance/Rain Dance
-Waterfall
-Outrage/Draco Meteor
-Surf/Hyrdo Pump

You'll generally want to go with Rain Dance over Dragon Dance, as RD boosts two STAB water moves by itself, and double speed. Outrage vs Draco Meteor is dependant on how mixed you want to be. If you're concered about Blissey, then go with Outrage, and if you worry about Physical walls go with DMeteor. Two moves of the same type are okay here, as Water/Dragon covers alot anyways, and the two STAB water moves are of different attacking ways.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on September 24, 2009, 06:06:02 pm
i will do a review of rattata's 31337N355

Stats
HP: 30 =O
Attack: 99 =O
Defense: 5 =O
Special attack: 1 =O
Special defense: 24 =O
Speed: 142 =O


Nature: jolly
Items: lagging tail
Evs: 252 a 252 spe
Ability: run away =D
Moves:
hyperbeam, 150 power, and stab
tail wip, makes sweeping easier
focous energy, critical hits ftw!
ice beam, ice is cool
_____________________________ _____________________________ _____________________________ ____________________________

i will now welcome feedback, and i will respond to defend my case =P
what do people besides blade think of my review =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on September 24, 2009, 06:19:25 pm
Blade's setup has more potentiel than yours, although I'd rather fight the one you have. With the set up, Hyper Beam and Ice Beam are coming off of a 1 SpAtk Stat, and with the defences you have you won't live long enough to put any use to Focus Energy or Tail Whip.

Amusing though, since it can't be taken seriously.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 24, 2009, 06:32:12 pm
Oh yeah, that's another thing I forgot to mention... =P Remember, the Special and Physical split happened this gen, so both are special, so both would be epicfail. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 24, 2009, 07:30:04 pm
And like Tim, I've adopted both phrases into my vocabulary. ^^

I found the part about Thunder Wave very humourous though. =P

... Anyone wanna seriously review Gallade? *Prepares flame shield just in case*


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on September 24, 2009, 08:02:47 pm
Blade's setup has more potentiel than yours, although I'd rather fight the one you have. With the set up, Hyper Beam and Ice Beam are coming off of a 1 SpAtk Stat, and with the defences you have you won't live long enough to put any use to Focus Energy or Tail Whip.

Amusing though, since it can't be taken seriously.
actually it was originally a mock of bt's thing, but i wanted people to take it seriously to see what happened =P also i got the stats purposely wrong.

i will do a not serious review of gallade if you want


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on September 24, 2009, 08:33:22 pm
I just tried out Shoddybattle. I got haxed by a Jynx. It took out ALL 6 of my Pokemon without even taking damage 0____________________________ _____________0


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 24, 2009, 08:44:08 pm
Ouch. =/

Say, what's ShoddyBattle like anyway?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on September 24, 2009, 08:53:28 pm
I just tried out Shoddybattle. I got haxed by a Jynx. It took out ALL 6 of my Pokemon without even taking damage 0____________________________ _____________0

Jynx may look weak, due to its plethora of weaknesses (Stealth Rock), but actually, not many teams are prepared for this threat due to the mentioned reasons, so don't be surprised if Jynx wrecks your team, especially paired with Dugtrio*Smogon.

@Blade - In Smogon, there is ShoddyBattle, where you basically battle other actual Pokemon players without Wi-Fi.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on September 24, 2009, 08:59:05 pm
Eh, ShoddyBattle is pretty good IMO. Just a lot of bad language in the chat box =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 24, 2009, 08:59:07 pm
Is it Smogon only? Just getting the facts.

/EDIT: ... Does that Yellow Forest course say the special Pikachu know Fly, Surf, and Volt Tackle? =O


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on September 25, 2009, 09:36:16 pm
FLY SURF AND *BLEEP*IN' VOLT TACLKE?!?

Oi...I've never had a Volt Tackle Pickachu.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Skullkeepa14 on September 25, 2009, 09:43:37 pm
Yes The Volt Tackle Pichu Is found in the yellow forest pokewalker course if i'm correct. Also Where is the notched eared pichu?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Skullkeepa14 on September 25, 2009, 10:06:00 pm
Kewl, Have u tried the new pokewalker?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Skullkeepa14 on September 25, 2009, 11:04:36 pm
Well the games alright, sum ppl get an illegal copy and change japenese to english ^-^


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 26, 2009, 11:22:33 am
PokeWalker sounds awesome, but I have to wait 'til it comes out here to use it because I can't import.

I never knew about it until I posted that. ._. And yes, you did accurately predict it, which was one of the reasons I mentioned it.

DT: Yes, all three. =O Volt Tackle's interesting, and if you want something to compare it to, it's like Double-Edge or Flare Blitz, or Brave Bird, or any of the recoil moves, except it's electric. ... Which doesn't make much sense this gen unless it's on my Pika, since you can't exactly get the full use of it without a mixed sweeper/attacking sweeper... But meh, it's still a good move, but it should probably get some others who can learn it... But it's currently Pikachu's signature move.

Skull: Well, the trio move one is, but you can get a Volt Tackle in any game Emerald and up by breeding a Pikachu holding a Light Ball.

Is Spiky Eared Pichu really confirmed? I knew that it was mentioned in an ad, but that could be a placeholder. If it is, I'm still gonna refer to it as Notched Ear Pichu because that sounds a little... better.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 27, 2009, 10:45:54 am
Hmm. Ah well... =/

Only one more day before the Shaymin item's given out. One thing... Why a Monday? They did this for the Secret Key too... =/ Meh, looks like I'll be getting it early tomorrow, but not getting Shaymin for another few hours.(Then again, if Shaymin's as hard to get as Darkrai was...)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on September 27, 2009, 11:44:37 am
Shaymin's not really that hard to get, provided you have your bike. =P

Following Oak's Letter's instructions, you head to Victory Road and take the once-blocked path. You go through the Marley area, and continue through to the next route. Follow it to the end, where there'll be white rock. There'll be a cutscene, then Shaymin appears and lengthens the route. Hop on your bike and follow this crazy-long trail until you meet Shaymin.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 27, 2009, 11:48:08 am
Oh I know that, it's the capturing part that'll be hard. Darkrai took me a few days to catch. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on September 27, 2009, 12:15:44 pm
Oh. =P

Shaymin has a higher catch rate that Palkia/Dialga. You'll be fine. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 27, 2009, 12:17:19 pm
Is it higher than Darkrai? And how many minutes/hours should I need? If more than one then I think I'll wait to catch it. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on September 27, 2009, 12:36:59 pm
@Blade: Darkrai has the same CR as Giratina, the runners, and most other legendaries. Shaymin'll be an easy catch, unless you'll be looking at natures like me. =P

That makes two of us. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 27, 2009, 12:38:35 pm
On the contrary, it took me a while to catch Dialga. =P But then again, it's a Quick Ball, so... =P

*Is trying to get FR close to finished so I can get through the Trainer Tower... Or at least attempt to* Are the Pokemon types set every time you go through it? I know the levels change, but if I can get a team type that can own the tower...

Okay then, it looks like I'll try in the morning if I have time, and then finish up later. =)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 27, 2009, 01:13:00 pm
Oh yeah, heard about this yesterday on BZP, but forgot to mention it. I think of it as a PBR/ColoXD/Stadium mix with Minigames, a story mode/Gym Leader Castle, the usual coloseums/stadiums, and trainer customization at least.

/EDIT: Gallade or Gardevoir; what would you recommend?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on September 27, 2009, 01:38:18 pm
Gallade.

Another reason why I need to get a Wii. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on September 27, 2009, 01:41:37 pm
Quote
I need a battle...
Can you wait about an hour or two, so I can get to my Wi-fi? =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 27, 2009, 01:42:57 pm
Not all the time. Especially considering that a couple of them are here too, like BT and me. =P But if you had've been around a couple years back, you might have a different opinion, as there were a few awesome battlers there.

Any suggestions for what I could put on my team as a Special Sweeper? 4 out of 6 of my team are sweepers, and I have a sneaking suspicion I have the other two planned to be sweepers as well.

/EDIT: Battle? *Thinks* Well, I still need to breed the right natures for my team... And figure out what's staying and what's not...

Is Rhyperior worth it?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on September 27, 2009, 01:48:23 pm
Is Rhyperior worth it?
Not really.

Scratch that down to about 10-20 minutes. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 27, 2009, 01:53:37 pm
Hmm... Castform?(I really need a special sweeper... What better than one who I can change?)

Oh hey, I noticed that another of my planned team is a Special Sweeper. Forgot about that one. =D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on September 27, 2009, 02:20:17 pm
So what does this team of yours entail? I can help better if I know what we're working with. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 27, 2009, 02:24:52 pm
Your favourite, Electivire, my Favourite, Infernape, Lapras, and Salamence. Currently of course. ... I kicked out Swampert in favour of more Dragon coverage. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on September 27, 2009, 02:27:47 pm
So we have:

Electivire
Infernape
Lapras
Salamence

What movesets? Natures? Items?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 27, 2009, 02:38:50 pm
Salamence I'm looking at the Dragon Dance Mence on Serebii(DClaw, DDance, EQuake, either Stone Edge or Flamethrower). It has an Adamant nature, and the 120/252/136 EV spread for HP, Atk, and Spd respectively. It's gonna be holding Leftovers.

Infernape is the Swords Dance Sweeper set from Serebii. Jolly, 4/252/252(See above), Muscle Band, and Flare Blitz, Close Combat, Swords Dance, and Stone Edge.

Electivire is the 'sweeper' set from Serebii(Seeing a pattern here...? =P), and is Adamant, 4/252/252, Expert Belt, and has EQuake, Cross Chop, Ice Punch, and Thunder Punch.

Lapras is the 'Offensive Wall/Sing Support' set from Serebii, and is Modest, 216 Def/198 Special Attack/96 Special Defense, holding Leftovers, and knowing Thunder Bolt, Ice Beam, Sing, and Surf.

Only three for you? Lemme get my charger, and allow me to use my six, and you're on. =P ... What? I need the advantage right now. xP

/EDIT: Getting on now...

//EDIT: 0___o What the... I've now got room for 16 players in the Wi-Fi waiting room? How'd that happen? It's even got two PCs... 0_o


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 27, 2009, 02:57:45 pm
Okay *Is waiting* What's with the dual room though?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on September 27, 2009, 03:01:45 pm
*Is in Wi-fi room with team of 3*

I try to fight fair. =P

I'll give some input on your team in a sec, Blade.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 27, 2009, 03:03:04 pm
;_; It's not my fault I haven't got my team ready yet...

... Oh wait... =P Warm up fight Dudebot?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on September 27, 2009, 03:06:12 pm
Perhaps, Blade. Give me a minute to do something and I'll be there to take you down again on. =P

Or rather, have fun with him while I go look for things. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 27, 2009, 03:08:05 pm
Stealth Rock in bulk? YES. =D

Dudebot: Fine with me. ... Waitasec... >> << *Hopes that doesn't mean he's going to get his competitive team* ... Meh. *Will be owned if so* =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on September 27, 2009, 03:15:42 pm
No, I'm looking for those video codes of you vs myself. Gonna put them on my userpage so I have them. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 27, 2009, 03:18:07 pm
Well, I know the ones I recorded are on my Userpage, but as for yours... *Points back to the tens of pages ago* Good luck searching. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on September 27, 2009, 03:23:37 pm
I found them, methinks. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 27, 2009, 03:25:42 pm
Alright then, battle time? =P *Is playing FR at the same time*


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 27, 2009, 03:27:42 pm
Not unless the tiers have changed since I last looked. =P Aka, I'm not using my main current staple Garchomp, so you can proceed to own me more than likely. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on September 27, 2009, 03:31:48 pm
I have banned Ub3rs from my tram until I actually get around to making my Ub3r team. And even then, I'll rarely bring them out to play. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 27, 2009, 03:33:20 pm
Yeah, you prefer to wipe me out with your normal team. I'll just quickly upload a Battle Vid from a while back, BRB.

/EDIT: BT Vs. Kaze 2(I think) Video No.: 47-14905-11360

... No-one saw that. >_> <_<


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on September 27, 2009, 03:38:55 pm
Yeah, I just noticed you uploaded a vid. Currently watching =P

Since it wasn't uploaded before: Dudebot vs Blade 4 - 41-55345-20077


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 27, 2009, 03:41:22 pm
How'd you notice that I uploaded one? =P

/EDIT: Getting back on. =)

//EDIT: *Twitch, twitch* Noooooo, The communication gave way just when I had gotten him to have to use his last Pokemon(I forced him to switch. =P) D=


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 27, 2009, 03:53:02 pm
No... Communication gave way...I don't DC, though this happened when I was playing MMSF3 a little while ago.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 27, 2009, 03:57:43 pm
I just don't like it. *Shrugs* It's also probably because you won't hear me talking, and I keep the volume down, so I don't have a reason to. =P

Wow, I was lucky to survive that hit. =O

/EDIT: Fight Dragons much? =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 27, 2009, 04:03:11 pm
=P

Sure. Using Diamond I assume?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on September 27, 2009, 04:04:09 pm
I call fighting him next. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 27, 2009, 04:05:32 pm
Okay. I get the rematch after. =P

I so should've put a Yache Berry on-

=O No! Gaaaah. Didn't get a chance to save the battle ><


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on September 27, 2009, 04:06:37 pm
Fail D=

We'll take turns, as the other one posts a video. Provided they don't fail. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on September 27, 2009, 04:14:18 pm
I'm set for a 3v3. Whenever you're ready. :)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 27, 2009, 04:19:08 pm
'k. But...

... Meh, who needs video, this is how it went, I'll refer to me as Pokemon Trainer Kaze, and him as Pokemon Trainer Stranger. =P

Pokemon Trainer Stranger sent out Gyarados! Pokemon Trainer Kaze sent out Metagross!
Pokemon Trainer Stranger switched out Gyarados for Electivire!
Metagross used Zen Headbutt! Electivire's HP is in the low yellow now!
Electivire used Earthquake! It's Super Effective! Metagross is in the low yellow!
Metagross used Meteor Mash! Electivire fainted!
Pokemon Trainer Stranger sent out Gyarados!
Gyarados used Dragon Dance! It's Attack and Speed rose!
Metagross used Zen Headbutt! Gyarados' HP is in the mid yellow!
Gyarados used Waterfall! Metagross fainted!
Pokemon Trainer Kaze sent out Luxray!(... It was either this first and then LeafGreen, but I think it was Luxray, so...) Gyarados' Attack was decreased!
Gyarados used Waterfall! Luxray's HP is in the mid-low yellow section! Luxray flinched!(Waaaaaaht)
Gyarados used Waterfall! Luxray fainted!
Pokemon Trainer Kaze sent out Leafgreen(Torterra)!
Gyarados used Ice Fang! LeafGreen fainted!
Pokemon Trainer Kaze sent out Dusknoir!
Gyarados used Waterfall! Dusknoir's HP is in the mid to low yellow!
Dusknoir used Will-O-Wisp! Gyarados was burned! Gyarados' Lum Berry healed it's burn!
Gyarados used Waterfall! Dusknoir fainted!
Pokemon Trainer Kaze sent out Dragoon(Dragonite)!
Gyarados used Ice Fang! Dragoon fainted!(I'm definitely starting to see a pattern here...)
Pokemon Trainer sent out Silver(Feraligatr)!
Gyarados used Waterfall! Silver's HP is in the low green(Around 150 HP)!
Silver used Crunch! Gyarados fainted!
Pokemon Trainer Stranger sent out Lucario!
Lucario used Close Combat! Silver fainted!
Pokemon Trainer Stranger won!

See? =P

Thanks. If Luxray hadn't gotten haxed then(Since when does Waterfall have flinch? ;_;), I may have actually had a chance of adding one to my win column for once. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on September 27, 2009, 04:35:02 pm
I was wondering what the hax0r was. >_>

Well, I have to leave to eat dinner, anyway. <_<

Hey, at least that was some fun switching. =P
And Elecctivire pwning. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 27, 2009, 04:36:27 pm
=/ Dang. That... doesn't sound good. *Is currently breeding Porygon right now*

I almost owned Elecy the first time, but Lucario proceeded to own me instead. =P At least, before the Wi-Fi decided to cut out. >_>


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on September 27, 2009, 04:37:57 pm
I would like to battle him next!  ;D

If I can get my DS... >_>


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 27, 2009, 04:38:44 pm
Well, I'm guessing battling him all depends on if he can get the Wi-Fi back up...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 27, 2009, 04:44:58 pm
That's why- ... Wait, I've already told you my team. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on September 27, 2009, 05:43:37 pm
Quote
To be frank, Blade, the people at BZP are n00bs at Pokemon. :P  And one time, I was giving advice to a person, and that Laka kid said I have no idea what I'm talking about. >__<  Bah.  

Once, I saw a Physical Mismagius set (all Mismagius variants are meant to be Special, and it had Curse, which I realized it didn't work to boost attack since it only cuts 1/2 HP and takes 1/4 HP off the opponent*), and the people there are clueless about base stats on Pokemon...  ::)

*I just realized now... >_<

What advice were you giving him, and what did Laka say?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 27, 2009, 07:13:31 pm
It's probably mostly because Latios and Latias are the pair runners of R/S/E, and most wouldn't think that only Latios would be banned. ... Why is that, anyway?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on September 27, 2009, 07:13:37 pm
Everyone knows that Latias is only an ub3r if it has Soul Dew. ::)

@Blade: It's due to the huge SA of Latios vs Latias. Latias matches it, though, if it has Soul Dew. ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 27, 2009, 07:18:24 pm
*Is getting owned by Dudebot*


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on September 27, 2009, 07:20:38 pm
His Feraligator knows Cut. And he sent out Dusknoir against Weavile. ::)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on September 27, 2009, 07:22:22 pm
You fail, Blade  :P.

Not to mention that his Swampert knows Water Gun and Mud Bomb, and Shedinja knows Scratch and Leech Life.

EDIT: OMG BLADE POSTED AT THE SAME TIME AS ME =O


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 27, 2009, 07:22:22 pm
Hey, it's not like you left me any other choices in terms of moves. And that was a failtastic decision to switch out Metagros at the beginning. >_>

And it definitely was a moment of fail for me with Dusknoir. =P

;_; Still won't let me live that down... Remember guys, these are my ingame Pokemon =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on September 27, 2009, 07:26:17 pm
Truely Fail, Blade. =P

However, Weavile would've taken a fairly nice chunk out of Metagross if he stayed in. =P

*Has officially pwn'd Blade again*


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 27, 2009, 07:27:25 pm
And I saved yet another vid of it. =P

And yes, he would have. But it was still fail. >>;

But that post thing was epic win =O

/EDIT: And in a bizarre twist of events, now it's me who's lost one Pokemon, and Dudebot's who's down two. >=D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on September 28, 2009, 08:48:02 am
Oh, new Pokemon Wii. Yay!

*looks at Blade battle* meep. Um, on second thought, let's delay that battle until like, you're 50. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on September 28, 2009, 09:55:35 am
*blinks* I said I have that? When? I was probably hypnotized or something =P

Stealth Rock in bulk? YES. =D I know Blade already said that =P

Wait, where is Stealth Rock in bulk?

EDIT: I see it now. It's at the Dept. Store =D

And let's just hope this new Wii Pokemon game doesn't suck as much as Battle Revolution. BR was the first game I ever got that I sold due to hating it.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on September 28, 2009, 11:57:44 am
Me too. I would play MPR a LOT more if I could transfer Plat. Pokemon into it. I could get Mew much quicker ( I already have Manaphy and Phione).


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 28, 2009, 11:59:27 am
We both said it. =P

And just a note; it's the Celadon Store that it's at.

And a more Stadium based PBR? YES I would want that. =) Or a mix of all three(What? I like the different types of stadiums as well as the Trainer Customization... Though that'd probably change if I actually play it, besides the Trainer Customization. =P) =D

On another note... Timid Shaymin get... On the first try. =D ... =O Highly Curious. Meaning the highest IV is Special Attack(Which is very good) and it's either a five or a 0. I have a very good feeling about this Shaymin.

              Average   %   Min   Max
HP             30        50   30   31
Atk            5          33   4    6
Def            25        33   24   26
Sp.Atk       30        50   30   31
Sp.Def       11        25   10   13
Spd           21        25   20   23

... Did I mention I have a very good feeling about this Shaymin?(Slight note that these are only while it's at Level 30, so it could be off, but I doubt those Special Attack IVs are off, especially since it can only end in a five or a zero, and that ends in a zero.)

/EDIT Twilight: You can use Diamond with it. ;) And if you have a second DS(I'm not sure if you sold your original or not) you could just transfer them over that way. Heck I plan on using Plat and Diamond as storage games once HGSS comes out if I can get a second DS.

//EDIT: Hey, you kinda don't need to mention that Skymin and Oritina are banned. Their forms auto-kick off on Wi-Fi and trades apparently. I know 'bout Giratina's Origin form doing that(Wi-Fi kicks the item off Giratina), but Serebii says Skymin's form goes away as well. But, I assume since Shaymin land's not on there, it's OU? >=D(Also, quick question... Does Skymin's learned attacks stay after it's knocked out of Sky Form, or are they like Rotom's special moves?)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on September 28, 2009, 02:34:34 pm
*eyetwitch* Curse you, Platinum's Wifi requirements. I want mah Shaymin NAO but I can't get one.

Personally, I would be more interested in another Colluseum sequel for Wii.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 28, 2009, 02:38:03 pm
Stealth Rock in bulk? YES. =D

;)

Thanks, and it was my first attempt too. *Wonders how Dudebot's doing with his Shaymin* =P

Hmm, okay then, I'll think about it. But I never got my question about keeping the moves answered technically. =P

DT: ::) Too bad they don't seem to be doing the normal building stuff like the Secret Key... =P

Yeah, that'd be pretty cool, especially since I never got to play the first two, but since Cipher's pretty much obliterated(They're like the Team Rocket of Orre, I just realized. =P)...

/EDIT: And here's the Vid ID of the fight I had with Dudebot last night, or my recording.

Dudebot vs. Kaze Round 3, Battle 1 Video no.: 84-09867-36465


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on September 28, 2009, 03:44:25 pm
@ blade: i have a timid shaymin. but i also have a timid synchronizer =D

how do you change shaymin out of sky forme? jc.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 28, 2009, 03:50:50 pm
Box it or freeze it or let it sit out overnight. And I'm pretty sure Wi-Fi/Trading will do it too.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on September 28, 2009, 04:21:53 pm
The following is my current collection of Battle videos. By "My" I mean that I am involved in some way, meaning about 3 of these are Blade's. =P Anyway...

Pokemon Platinum Video Codes:
Battle Arcade Silver Win - 63-77567-47477
Battle Castle Silver Fail - 34-16068-11231
Battle Castle Silver Win - 23-05957-00051
Battle Tower Silver Win - 79-75220-43134
Dudebot vs. Blade 1 - 96-00890-70357
Blade vs Dudebot 2 - 88-74443-22486
Blade vs Dudebot 3 - 93-86274-41422
Dudebot vs Blade 4 - 41-55345-20077
Dudebot vs Blade 5 - 84-09867-36465
Dudebot vs Blade 6 - 49-54312-81025

To be updated as necessary on my userpage.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on September 28, 2009, 08:48:34 pm
wait, does shaymin still know sky form moves after it has changed?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 29, 2009, 02:39:42 pm
That's what I asked, but I never exactly got an answer...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on September 29, 2009, 03:23:28 pm
meh i don't want to test 4 myself incase it messes up. isn't that serebii's job?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 29, 2009, 03:28:37 pm
That's my job. =P But I dunno if I wanna risk my Shaymin this time. =/


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on September 29, 2009, 03:29:59 pm
same here, and mine is timid. maybe i will check the ivs l8r... if they stink i will test.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on October 01, 2009, 07:58:59 pm
So far, my competitive Pupitar (soon to be a Tyranitar) is at Level 41. Need to level up more... >_>

As well as get the Wi-Fi event... -_-


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Skullkeepa14 on October 02, 2009, 02:10:28 am
Chuck Norris: 5500HP

Moveset:

Roundhouse; Power:--- Accuracy:--- Your Opponent Dies

Beard of Death; Power:--- Accuracy:--- Your opponent Dies again!

Description: God Pokemon. Length 5' 8". weight 234 Lbs. It stands on one foot. It Changes movement so fast that the movement can be rarely seen

Weakness: Electricity.

Resistance:-3000 Fighting type.
----
Someone Recommend an Ev combination. *lookin at u dudebot*



Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 02, 2009, 02:49:19 pm
That's so powerful it doesn't need EVs or IVs, or even a nature. 0_o


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on October 02, 2009, 08:33:56 pm
That's so powerful it doesn't need EVs or IVs, or even a nature. 0_o
Incorrect. Chuck Norris can have Over 9000! points in every stat.

Weakness: Electricity.
Also incorrect. Chuck Norris has no weaknesses. Only invulnerability.

All his moves are super-effective OHKOs, with infinite accuracy, as well.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Skullkeepa14 on October 02, 2009, 10:04:48 pm
I saw it on a site so i thought i would put it here. http://www.myds.com.au/img/gallery/full/9D5GTSX8.jpg (http://www.myds.com.au/img/gallery/full/9D5GTSX8.jpg) Thats the link to chuck norris pokemon card


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 03, 2009, 10:12:12 am
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Well, that's TCG. ::) 

Hey, guys?  If you see Serebii add a HGSS Trainer Card page "as per request", just know that it was a certain someone who requested it. ::) 
Sweet. Though, if a certain site's correct, I already know all the requirements.

Elite Four(That's just automatic.)
Red(Didn't Serebii say he got something for beating Red?)
Shining Leaf(Confirmed by Serebii already)
Battle Tower(Not confirmed technically, but as it's a copy-paste from Plat...)
Capture all Pokemon(Well, it's been like that the last few games...)

So, I dunno if it's all true, but it would make sense, and two are confirmed, as you don't see Elite Four without also seeing 'And you get a star for beating them' in the recent games. ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Tom on October 03, 2009, 12:47:44 pm
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Well, that's TCG. ::) 

Hey, guys?  If you see Serebii add a HGSS Trainer Card page "as per request", just know that it was a certain someone who requested it. ::)
I was going to request that. o:


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 03, 2009, 02:00:53 pm
Say.... Does anyone want some King's Rocks? =)

/EDIT: Interesting... It seems I'll be getting a Latios to start in SoulSilver, meaning I can just keep Latios on Platinum once I get SS. Latias... That'll mean I'll have to wait of course to find out about where you get that rock thingy, but...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Tom on October 04, 2009, 12:20:55 am
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*Gasp*!  Tom is finally back! :o  Are you interested in the tournament, Tom? 

@Blade:  That sounds like a reasonable list.  However, for the better of my peers, I thought I would request it anyway. ;)
The rules fly over my head. o:


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on October 04, 2009, 09:30:19 am
*needs SoulSilver NAO*

I'm just wondering when Nintendo will announce the American release date...

And the release date of Melee Scramble...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 04, 2009, 10:15:12 am
There's a possible release date out, but that hasn't been confirmed at all. And if TPCi is like every other year... I'd expect it revealed by December or January. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 04, 2009, 12:57:11 pm
Done.

I'm pickup farming in both Emerald and Sapphire right now, so if anyone has any requests, it'd be good to get them in now... =P(Oh yes, to mention, I have like 6 King's Rocks over on Sapphire right now... Anyone want? =P)

/EDIT: Two questions; One, should we have the Tournament board be out in the open? Two, should we have something like a Frontier Pass or a Trainer Card for people? Like an image or something, since I don't think that we could do anything else in terms of that.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 04, 2009, 05:21:24 pm
Like having a Trainer card made for the competitors, for all the tournaments. Just to show who won which easily. =)

*Is probably gonna open up a can of worms* What do you guys think about... Well, using the RNG to get stuff easier? ... Also, how do you do it anyway?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Tom on October 04, 2009, 07:24:09 pm
@Blade: Farming?

And does anyone know where I can train a Fire Type in R/S/E for the Elite Four such as Torkoal?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on October 04, 2009, 07:38:32 pm
@Blade: Farming?

And does anyone know where I can train a Fire Type in R/S/E for the Elite Four such as Torkoal?

In Pickup farming, you basically get a Pokemon that has Pickup and win battles with it. And then check the Pickup Pokemon and see if it gets an item.

Fire type? hmm... I'm thinking of a training area abundant in Grass/Ice/Bug/Steel type Pokemon, but I cannot quite recall an area with those...

If its Blaziken, then Victory Road would be a good place. If it's not... then I guess Victory Road is your best bet.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Tom on October 04, 2009, 07:43:07 pm
@Blade: Farming?

And does anyone know where I can train a Fire Type in R/S/E for the Elite Four such as Torkoal?

In Pickup farming, you basically get a Pokemon that has Pickup and win battles with it. And then check the Pickup Pokemon and see if it gets an item.

Fire type? hmm... I'm thinking of a training area abundant in Grass/Ice/Bug/Steel type Pokemon, but I cannot quite recall an area with those...

If its Blaziken, then Victory Road would be a good place. If it's not... then I guess Victory Road is your best bet.
Ah. My Linoone is perfect for farming then. I just need to train it more.

I wish it was Blaziken, but it's Torkoal. I chose Treecko as my Ruby starter.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 04, 2009, 07:46:21 pm
I go all out and train six of them. It's much easier in Sapphire of course, but is still doable in Emerald, though to get Rare Candies you need it at like level 40 to have the same chance of getting them. =/

EDIT:This is worth the extra post. Boy have I got a story for you tomorrow. I just went through the Kanto Elite Four, and wrote about all the stuff(Much to Tim's dismay).

Merging double posts.  For shame, Blade. =P - Tim


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on October 05, 2009, 08:55:53 pm
Whud?

Seriously, I have no idea what you just said. =P

Anyone here going for PMD:EoS?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Skullkeepa14 on October 05, 2009, 11:46:45 pm
Heartgold release date 4th april 2010


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 06, 2009, 11:30:08 am
ddude: I am as well. And as I went through the Kanto Elite 4 in FireRed, I wrote down what happened. I'm gonna be editing this post with it veeeery shortly.

Kanto Elite Four: Take One; Setup:
October 05, 2009, 06:16:08 pm: I've almost got all five of my Kanto team to Level 63... Then I can go fight the Elite Four...
October 05, 2009, 07:08:56 pm: 'k, this is it; Elite 4 Kanto: Take 1!

Kanto Elite Four: Take One
October 05, 2009, 07:10:17 pm: Lorelei's up first; I'm leading off with a Pikachu with an Amulet Coin because of that.
October 05, 2009, 07:11:46 pm: Er; scratch that, I'm restarting >>; Forgot to heal xD
October 05, 2009, 07:13:00 pm: Take 2. =P

Kanto Elite Four: Take Two; Lorelei
October 05, 2009, 07:13:43 pm: As I was saying, I'm leading off with the Pikachu, and Lorelei's leading off with her Dewgong.
October 05, 2009, 07:14:38 pm: Thunderbolt almost fainted Dewgong, but it's Surf took out half Pika's health. I'm glad I took the time to raise my Pokemon to level 63...
October 05, 2009, 07:15:31 pm: And there we go. One Pokemon down, four to go. Let's hope Pika can hold out...
October 05, 2009, 07:17:59 pm: Cloyster's up next. Let's see if I can one-hit this one, or even get lucky with Thunder(... On second thought... =P)
Knew Thunder was a bad idea; I missed and Cloyster got a turn to get Hail out on the field. Thunderbolt then proceeded to One-Hit the Cloyster.
October 05, 2009, 07:18:40 pm: 'k, so Slowbro's next, and Hail's still out on the field. I may have to use my first Full Restore soon...
October 05, 2009, 07:20:15 pm: ._. Slowbro survived my Thunderbolt and miraculously fainted Pika. ... Meh, he only had around 50 HP left, so it's not that big a deal; but now I have to rely on Saur to take out the rest of her Pokemon, some of which are Ice Pokemon... Gonna send it out anyway though.
October 05, 2009, 07:20:40 pm: ... Oh sure, the hail goes and faints Slowbro right after I send out Saur. >_>
October 05, 2009, 07:22:00 pm: ... Oh boy. Lorelei's sending out Lapras now... I have this bad feeling that an Aurora Beam will spell the end of Saur soon.
October 05, 2009, 07:23:18 pm: Didn't take any chances; Frenzy Planted it. =P Switching out to Lax for the next Pokemon though, which is... Jynx. Good decision on my part I'd say. =P
October 05, 2009, 07:24:14 pm: ._. The Jynx put Lax to sleep. >> *Goes to fetch out PokeFlute and uses it to wake Lax back up*
October 05, 2009, 07:24:59 pm: >_> What was Red thinking getting all males... Just got Attract'd.
October 05, 2009, 07:25:12 pm: And put to sleep again...
October 05, 2009, 07:26:28 pm: *Plays Pokeflute again* This keeps up I'm switching to Poli. *Looks at screen* Haaaaaax. I just got frozen by Ice Punch. And I don't have a Key Item for that. =/ *Switches to Poli for good measure*
October 05, 2009, 07:27:34 pm: And there goes Lorelei to a Brick Break. One down; 3 4 to go. =)
October 05, 2009, 07:28:01 pm: Whee, over 10,000 PokeYen for that ^^

Kanto Elite Four: Take Two; Bruno
October 05, 2009, 07:29:20 pm: I'm sending out Saur as my lead Pokemon during the next fight, though I'll need my other team mate to help as well, since it's Rock/Fighting.
October 05, 2009, 07:31:25 pm: And, as I suspected, Bruno sent out Onix first. Needless to say, it fell quickly to my Razor Leaf. ;)
October 05, 2009, 07:32:32 pm: Ooh, Bruno's sending out Hitmonchan... Time to use my only member I'm actually fighting with that I haven't shown yet; Aero. I have Vee on my team, but that's just an 'along for the ride' Pokemon. ;)
October 05, 2009, 07:33:22 pm: Aaaand Hitmonchan's down. STAB Wing Attack can be good in-game. Competitively, not so much. =P
October 05, 2009, 07:34:32 pm: Machamp's next, so I'm keeping Aero in. Wing Attack again, and... Just barely survived. Only to Bulk Up. =P(Oh, and a Sitrus Berry so Bruno won't HP restore on me. =P)
October 05, 2009, 07:35:13 pm: And that second Wing Attack Fainted him. Neeeext is... Onix again, So, back to Saur we go.
October 05, 2009, 07:36:03 pm: And with a similar outcome, Onix is one-hitted by Saur's Razor Leaf. =) Back over to Aero for Hitmonlee...
October 05, 2009, 07:36:28 pm: ... Of course, it'd help if I actually switched. >_>
October 05, 2009, 07:36:54 pm: And Wing Attack owned again. =P
October 05, 2009, 07:38:26 pm: 11,200 PokeYen was gained from that battle; Now onto Agatha... It says she leads with Gengar, which isn't exactly good, because I don't think I have anything that's super effective against Ghost/Poison.

Kanto Elite Four: Take Two; Agatha
October 05, 2009, 07:39:44 pm: So, I'll be leading with Poli. Agatha indeed leads with Gengar.
October 05, 2009, 07:40:06 pm: Surf only took out around half, but Gengar only used Double Team.
October 05, 2009, 07:40:45 pm: And the second Surf did the trick. Gengar's down. Next up is Golbat, so I'll be switching to Pika for this.
October 05, 2009, 07:41:49 pm: Thunderbolt only took out 98% of the HP approximately, so now I'm confused and have to be lucky. Hooray.
October 05, 2009, 07:42:25 pm: Oh, did I mention Agatha used a Full Restore? So even though it did hit through Confusion, I'm back where I started this turn. =P
October 05, 2009, 07:43:01 pm: And that time I hit myself, and I got poisoned. Switching out now... For Aero.
October 05, 2009, 07:43:22 pm: Good thing there's only one Golbat...
October 05, 2009, 07:44:22 pm: And Ancientpower owned Golbat, and Agatha's switching to Arbok. Intimidate does not help a bit, so I'm now switching back to Poli.
October 05, 2009, 07:45:35 pm: Iron Tail? Interesting. And here's a Surf for you. But it only took out around 2/3rds, so here's a Strength for you. ... This is one tough Arbok to take out...
October 05, 2009, 07:46:32 pm: Okay, it's finally down, and we're back to the Ghosts... Haunter's up now, and I'm gonna use Surf... ... SURF, not STRENGTH. >_>
October 05, 2009, 07:47:25 pm: Oh goodie, Haunter decided to be a little self-hurting, and used Curse. Needless to say, with the Surf I just used, it didn't last long. =P
October 05, 2009, 07:48:08 pm: Switching out to Saur... Let's hope Grass Moves do at least a little damage on Ghost/Poisons.
October 05, 2009, 07:48:49 pm: Oh wait, I didn't even get a chance to test it, it put me to sleep. >_> *Digs out Pokeflute again*
October 05, 2009, 07:49:26 pm: Silly Gengar; don't you know I'm a Poison type too? =P
October 05, 2009, 07:49:52 pm: ... Hmm... This may take a while... Razor Leaf didn't do much at all.
October 05, 2009, 07:50:28 pm: That's more like it. now, time to use it once more, then Frenzy Plant it out of here.
October 05, 2009, 07:50:56 pm: ... Unless... of course... it uses Hypnosis on me first.
October 05, 2009, 07:52:10 pm: Switching out to Poli, and I got hit by a Sludge Bomb on my first move. Great. Now I'm in the Red(No pun intended), and I'm using a Surf, only to be fainted by another Sludge Bomb. Just great. Time to use Aero then...
October 05, 2009, 07:53:26 pm: AncientPower hits first... But of course it doesn't faint it all the way. >_> 'Who ordered the Full Restore?' *Points to Agatha* 'Oh thanks'
October 05, 2009, 07:54:38 pm: AncientPower again, this time it takes out even more... back into the Red for Agatha. Next hit should do it if Agatha doesn't heal Gengar again.
October 05, 2009, 07:55:48 pm: And that match is over. >_> And I got 11,600 PokeYen for winning that.(Next should be easier since Poli has Ice Beam on it =P)

Elite Four: Take Two; Lance
October 05, 2009, 07:57:07 pm: Okay, since Lance is leading with Gyarados, I'm gonna lead with Pika again. Should be an easy OHKO.
October 05, 2009, 08:00:09 pm: And there we go, Gyarados down, only 4 more to go. Switching to Poli because Dragonair's up next...
October 05, 2009, 08:01:08 pm: Ice Beam=OHKO. The first Dragonair's down. Now over to Pika to deal with Aerodactyl of the Lance...
October 05, 2009, 08:03:24 pm: Thunderbolt takes Aerodactyl to the Red, he responds with AncientPower, and Pika's Static ability Paralyzes him. =) Thunderbolt again, but Lance used a Full Restore, and this time it only goes to the yellow.(Ironic part is Aerodactyl got paralyzed again) And Thunderbolt claims another Faint this time. 3 down, only two left, both Dragons. Time for Poli to shine.
October 05, 2009, 08:05:57 pm: Ice Beam took out almost all of Dragonair's health, but Poli got paralyzed.(Gotta hurry up) Lance healed, but Ice Beam hit again, reducing Dragonair to the Red again. Surf took out Dragonair though, leaving Lance to his last Pokemon... Dragonite.
October 05, 2009, 08:07:30 pm: Wing Attack hits and takes out around half Poli's HP... Time for a Full Restore. And again I have half my health taken out. Better get a OHKO, or freeze the Drag- Nope, got him to the yellow, but fainted. =/
October 05, 2009, 08:08:10 pm: Sending out Pika as Cleanup Crew, Thunderbolt brought Dragonite to the Red... But took out Pika.(._.)
October 05, 2009, 08:09:30 pm: Time to send out Aero. Pika's Static paralyzed Dragonite, which is a good thing, so I'll just use a nice ol' Wing Attack... And just fainted the last Pokemon of the last member of the Elite Four... I got 12,000 PokeYen for that win.
October 05, 2009, 08:10:36 pm: However...

Kanto Pokemon League Challenge: Champion Fight; Take 1
October 05, 2009, 08:10:36 pm: There's one more person to fight after the Elite Four, the Champion, who, in this case, is Green.
October 05, 2009, 08:10:54 pm: Aaand like a dummy, I forgot to heal. >_>
October 05, 2009, 08:11:38 pm: Good thing Lax was sent out first. He can absorb hits while I heal.
October 05, 2009, 08:12:04 pm: And the Pidgeot used FeatherDance. ::)(EDITOR's Note: Never laugh when a Pidgeot uses FeatherDance on you... He just faints you. >>)
October 05, 2009, 08:13:23 pm: Al-right, time to get serious. Pidgeot used Aerial Ace, which took a bit out of Snorlax, but my Double Edge missed. =/ That's from Sand Attack I guess...
October 05, 2009, 08:14:17 pm: Same thing, except this time I hit. Going for a body slam, though the Aerial Ace still happened... And now, a Hyper Beam, for an all-or-nothing attack.
October 05, 2009, 08:15:16 pm: >>; Snorlax fainted before I could get out the Hyper Beam. Now I'm sending out Pika to deal the last blow to this Pidgeot.
October 05, 2009, 08:17:36 pm: And Pidgeot is fainted. Level Up Pikachu! =D Green's sending out Rhydon, so I'm switching to Saur.(And if that fails, to Poli. =P)
October 05, 2009, 08:18:50 pm: Razor Leaf hits, and OHKOs the Rhydon. Now Green's sending out an Alakazam, and I don't have anything to counter it... Sending out Aero.
October 05, 2009, 08:19:57 pm: AncientPower mostly worked, but I'm banking my chances on this Hyper Beam... Which hits. And faints the Alakazam. =) Level Up Aerodactyl. Green's sending out Gyarados, so I'm switching to Pika.
October 05, 2009, 08:21:44 pm: Thunderbolt... All but OHKO. =/ Slam misses too, but not the second time, though Gyarados hits me with Hydro Pump, which leaves a mark and faints Pika(EDITOR's Note: Gyarados had a Full Restore used the turn I first used Slam. ;)). Time to send out ... Uhh... *Thinks* I guess Aerodactyl to stall?
October 05, 2009, 08:22:20 pm: Now, I revive Lax, so I can stall with it better and revive Pika.
October 05, 2009, 08:23:29 pm: And Aero obviously faints from Hydro Pump. Time to send out Saur. I use Razor Leaf, but it doesn't do much... So, I keep trying and then I use Frenzy Plant.
October 05, 2009, 08:24:21 pm: Level Up Venusaur! =D Gyarados fainted, which leaves only the final battle between Charizard and the non-fainted members of my team... I switch to Poli.
October 05, 2009, 08:26:15 pm: Ouch. Charizard used Aerial Ace, which just barely avoided fainting me. I then attempt to Surf Charizard again, to faint it, but Charizard fainted me with Fire Blast. I switch out to Lax to work on a plan and revive Pika.
October 05, 2009, 08:27:35 pm: As Charizard didn't faint me, I revive Poli as well, intending Saur to be another stall reviver... But Aerial Ace still doesn't faint Lax, so I decide to revive Aero as well.
October 05, 2009, 08:28:28 pm: Miraculously... I'm still not fainted. Hyper Beam time. =) ... Of course, Charizard had other plans, and outsped Lax. Needless to say, I'm switching out to Pika now. =P
October 05, 2009, 08:29:03 pm: Thunderbolt hits.... And just misses the fainting blow, as Pika faints.
October 05, 2009, 08:33:03 pm: Green uses a Full Restore, as Poli uses Surf to take Charizard down to the Yellow again. Charizard uses Aerial Ace, but leaves me with 33 HP; just enough to faint Charizard finally with Surf. After around 30 minutes of fighting and typing, I have beaten Green, Pokemon Champion of Kanto, and have become the new Pokemon Champion of Kanto(... Only to eventually give it up three years later and train on a mountaintop, and only to be narrowly defeated by a kid from Johto. =P). ... Wait, hold up a sec, he's still got Exeggutor =O Well then, it looks like Aero's getting some EXP. =P And Exeggutor's fainted. [cp]I have beaten Green, Pokemon Champion of Kanto, and have become the new Pokemon Champion of Kanto[/cp] =P
October 05, 2009, 08:34:02 pm: For this amazing feat, I get awesome victory music, and 12,600 PokeYen.

Kanto Elite Four: Take Two; Epilogue
October 05, 2009, 08:37:40 pm: And that ends my first journey through the Kanto Elite Four of this playthrough =D
October 05, 2009, 08:38:02 pm: And I never even had to switch to Vee. =P



That was the big surprise thing. =)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on October 06, 2009, 11:56:11 am
Not bad, Blade. But what pokemon is Vee? Oh wait, Eevee, I'm guessing.

I think I'll go dig out my old Leafgreen/Firered(I think I have both) and  make a...*dramatic pause* Blue-themed Team! (the Trainer named Blue, not the color. =P) Meh, I might make some edits though...

and remind me how you found the exact details for Red's team, Blade?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 06, 2009, 12:15:31 pm
*Points at rest of the battles* =P

Barely won against Green(Who is Blue in Pokemon Adventures here. ... Yes, confusing I know, blame Nintendo/Game Freak not bothering to translate the original Red/Green here. =P). And which Blue are you talking about, Charizard Blue, or Blastoise Blue?

As for how I found out Red's team, here's the hub for it. Only the RGBY characters have the full team's natures and such revealed though... (http://www.serebii.net/manga/characters-new/) And in the order, because of the Green/Blue deal, it goes Red, Green, Blue, and then Yellow. Oh, and don't go to Yellow's profile if you haven't read the Yellow saga, it kinda ruins the plot twist. ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on October 06, 2009, 04:17:10 pm
Anyone mind recommending a contest moveset for Milotic?

Beauty contest, that is. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Tom on October 06, 2009, 04:44:00 pm
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@ddude:  I am. :) 

@Skullkeepa:  Wait, what? o__O  What's your source? 

Let me check Serebii here...

Gamestop probably, that what they told me I think.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on October 06, 2009, 05:52:46 pm
I finished leveling up my Tyranitar!!

Yay!

Now... I have to pwn with this thing...  >:D

# of EV and IV-Trained Pokemon so far: 5

~ Dragonite
~ Scizor
~ Starmie
~ Machamp
~ Tyranitar

Just need a sixth member... And that is not my final team, so no ideas.  :P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on October 06, 2009, 08:36:03 pm
Anyone mind recommending a contest moveset for Milotic?

Beauty, that is. =P
Add onto that a perfered moveset for a Modest Kyogre. (Yes, I'm forming an Ub3r team, just for the heck of it. I'll primarily use it for n00b-bashing after my OUish team pwns said n00bs. =P)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Tom on October 07, 2009, 04:29:56 pm
Whud?

Seriously, I have no idea what you just said. =P

Anyone here going for PMD:EoS?
Just saw this. I'm getting Explorers of Sky from Gamestop. The pre-order bonuses. >.<


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on October 07, 2009, 04:47:37 pm
Yeah. That's the only real reason I go to gamestop for all my games. *looks at Scribblenauts Rooster hat* plus it's quicker than most places.

So do you have any 4th Gen games Tom?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Tom on October 07, 2009, 04:50:28 pm
Yeah. That's the only real reason I go to gamestop for all my games. *looks at Scribblenauts Rooster hat* plus it's quicker than most places.

So do you have any 4th Gen games Tom?
Diamond, Pearl, Platinum and the spin-offs if you count those.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 07, 2009, 04:51:47 pm
The only reason I ever thought about GameStop(Not talking 'bout EB Games here =P) was for MMSF1: Dragon. And ironically eventually I found it in EB Games, another store like GameStop(Can't explain it, but I think the same company owns both stores), but I don't think I'd go to EB Games otherwise. Other stores suffice. =P

/EDIT: Got Wi-Fi Tom?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on October 07, 2009, 04:52:20 pm
@Tom: Do you have Wi-Fi access? If so, state your Friend Code and name.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Tom on October 07, 2009, 04:56:13 pm
The only reason I ever thought about GameStop(Not talking 'bout EB Games here =P) was for MMSF1: Dragon. And ironically eventually I found it in EB Games, another store like GameStop(Can't explain it, but I think the same company owns both stores), but I don't think I'd go to EB Games otherwise. Other stores suffice. =P

/EDIT: Got Wi-Fi Tom?
Gamestop and EB Games are owned by the same company. And yeah, I've got Wi-Fi. I'll post my FCs later. Some of them can be found on my Backloggery page though.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 07, 2009, 04:58:14 pm
Say... Anyone currently have EoT or EoD? And what's FC swapping used for in them? I know about Wi-Fi helping(Plan on having a topic about it if we get the sub-forum thing approved.), but...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Tom on October 07, 2009, 05:03:03 pm
Say... Anyone currently have EoT or EoD? And what's FC swapping used for in them? I know about Wi-Fi helping(Plan on having a topic about it if we get the sub-forum thing approved.), but...
Nothing really. =/ I think it just makes it easier to rescue friends.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on October 07, 2009, 05:03:55 pm
@Tom-oh. I just always see you posting about Third Gen games.

@Blade-I have EoD.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 07, 2009, 05:05:20 pm
Ah...

Say, does anyone have any ideas for topics if we do get a sub-forum just for this?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Tom on October 07, 2009, 05:07:41 pm
@Tom-oh. I just always see you posting about Third Gen games.

@Blade-I have EoD.
Yeah, I'm currently replaying R/S/E and FR/LG. Ruby's first.

@Blade: FC topic?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on October 07, 2009, 05:09:18 pm
Ah...

Say, does anyone have any ideas for topics if we do get a sub-forum just for this?

Bibarel Fan Club Topic?

Maybe a Pokemon game review discussion?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 07, 2009, 05:09:49 pm
Yeah, that along with a Battle Video ID topic would be mains... Any other ideas?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: korchi12 on October 07, 2009, 05:13:45 pm
Matt 5413 9133 3268

If you add me tell me so I can add ya back. Oh and regarding topics... maybe a pokemon of the day topic? Just throwin that out there.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Tom on October 07, 2009, 05:16:10 pm
Yeah, that along with a Battle Video ID topic would be mains... Any other ideas?
Rate My Team Thread?

@Korchi: K.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 07, 2009, 05:35:19 pm
RMT thread may be an idea...

Korchi: Pokemon of the Day? Just wondering what exactly that would include, like just listing a random Pokemon, or including stuff like Serebii's Pokemon of the Week? And I'll add you later =)

/EDIT: Oh yeah, I hereby predict that RSE remakes come out 5 years from now, and come packaged with something, has the Battle Frontier, will have two versions with slight Emerald additions(Match Call instead of Trainer Eyes?), and will have some Pokemon added from the other generations. Also, I predict that the Safari Zone upgrade will be kept, along with having Sinnoh, Johto, Kanto and Hoenn starters in it somehow. Hoenn and Johto are easy, but the rest would require a new area or something.

//EDIT: Gallade: Thunder Wave or Swords Dance? And whichever gets that, that or Will-o-Wisp?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: korchi12 on October 07, 2009, 08:12:44 pm
RMT thread may be an idea...

Korchi: Pokemon of the Day? Just wondering what exactly that would include, like just listing a random Pokemon, or including stuff like Serebii's Pokemon of the Week? And I'll add you later =)

/EDIT: Oh yeah, I hereby predict that RSE remakes come out 5 years from now, and come packaged with something, has the Battle Frontier, will have two versions with slight Emerald additions(Match Call instead of Trainer Eyes?), and will have some Pokemon added from the other generations. Also, I predict that the Safari Zone upgrade will be kept, along with having Sinnoh, Johto, Kanto and Hoenn starters in it somehow. Hoenn and Johto are easy, but the rest would require a new area or something.

//EDIT: Gallade: Thunder Wave or Swords Dance? And whichever gets that, that or Will-o-Wisp?

Randomly selecting would probably work best I guess, thats all I can come up with right now. Oh and I'll add you on later as well.

Another idea would be a contest topic. You could post contest combos that have worked for you and such. Not really sure how popular of a topic it would be but who knows?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on October 07, 2009, 08:23:36 pm
Bibarel Fan Club Topic?
GGGRRRAAAAHHHH

I'm up for RMT and contest topic.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on October 07, 2009, 08:46:29 pm
How about a Tiers topic? Also, our reccomendations for choosing Pokemon to be different functions, like who we think is the best Tank.

So which games do you have korchi?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: korchi12 on October 07, 2009, 08:52:09 pm
How about a Tiers topic? Also, our reccomendations for choosing Pokemon to be different functions, like who we think is the best Tank.

So which games do you have korchi?

I got Platinum, Ruby, Sapphire, Fire red, and all the oldies like red, blue, yellow, silver, gold, crystal etc.... I also have Pokemon colleseum and got the special gift Jirachi through a pre order thing.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on October 08, 2009, 08:08:54 am
Cool. I didn't even know you were into games until now.

...I wonder when that new Wii Pokemon game will be titled...the Pokemon Wii Games available in America were both busts, IMO. ALthough Ranch isn't that horrible, Battle Revolution was just a way to do 3-D battles with 4th Gen Pokemon.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on October 08, 2009, 02:17:25 pm
if you want to trade i jirachi to me a would be happy to apply =P

3/6 out of my OU team is done. i have the pokémon to breed then train. just 2 lazy to get it done.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Tom on October 08, 2009, 03:07:31 pm
Cool. I didn't even know you were into games until now.

...I wonder when that new Wii Pokemon game will be titled...the Pokemon Wii Games available in America were both busts, IMO. ALthough Ranch isn't that horrible, Battle Revolution was just a way to do 3-D battles with 4th Gen Pokemon.
Isn't it PokePark: Pikachu's Adventure? Sounds like Hey You Pikachu 2! to me.  ;D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 08, 2009, 03:28:14 pm
I'm not sure if that is the same game, but it does sound like a type of Channel game. If that's so, then I'd suspect that another Stadium/PBR game will be out either in a year or so, or next gen(Since the only gen that actually had two stadium-esque games was Gen3). Oh, and whatever that game was to be, it's definitely gonna be a disk game, or there's gonna be a new DS game, because of the Rock Capsule. You can't get it over Wi-Fi, because it has a different message from Wi-Fi event items. I highly doubt it'll be in-game either, as apparently it's in the same area the Manaphy Egg was or something. So, that leaves a future game hand-out, ala the Manaphy Egg.(Plus it says 'The Rock Capsule arrived safely', so...)

And I predict it'll hold the Mystery Crystal.

And PBR was designed to be that, with a type of Frontier-esque secondary gameplay. It went back to it's roots, and it'd be fine for me, since Stadium was that was, albeit with a GB Tower and Gym Leader Castle and Mini-games and a way to store Pokemon on the game itself and trade with other games... But I liked Stadium, and if they included at least some of those things(Store the Pokemon data on the Wii, or co-operate with a future version of MPR?), then I'd love it, especially if they included a mini-story mode(I highly doubt they'd be able to fit a whole story mode onto something like what I'm suggesting) too. Oh, and Trainer Customization is a must.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 09, 2009, 02:42:26 pm
Unless, of course, there's another generational gap like with Gen 2-3. And that was mostly just a joke based on the info we've seen(It's been five-six years approximately since FR/LG to now). Which was why I mentioned about the starters =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on October 09, 2009, 10:53:43 pm
Epic Hax of the day:

Tower Tycoon's Milotic Hypnotizing all my Pokemon, and attacking from there. -______________________________________-

Ever learn about Sleep Clause...? >_<

At least I learned why Hypnosis's accuracy was cut.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on October 10, 2009, 09:57:08 am
ive been haxed by shedinja far too many times, in the battle hall and the tower. >.>

due to epic laziness . hasn't finished his OU team, but he does not really care.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 10, 2009, 10:21:51 am
Shedinja's easy, you just need a move of one of it's weaknesses and it falls easily.

But Shedinja in Mystery Dungeon is epically broken. It has more than 1 HP. =|


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on October 10, 2009, 12:31:26 pm
i know it is easy to defeat him, but when i play it w/ those moves i never see him, but if i try pokémon without super effect moves i get haxed every single time...

EDIT:  bibarel FTW =D

i think b~t's idea about a fan club should be taken seriously =P

EDIT: Removing sprite...~Ddude


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 10, 2009, 01:07:33 pm
GRAAAAAAAAH.

Why would you go without a Fire move anyway? Skarmory could own you as well. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on October 10, 2009, 01:15:56 pm
skarmory is pwned by electric.

i thought only dude bot hated bibarel i think i should create a fan club for bibarel. how can you not like him?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 10, 2009, 01:19:37 pm
In the Battle Hall? ;)

He breaks chains and we teamed up to utterly own a Bibarel or two once. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on October 10, 2009, 01:22:03 pm
bibarel + tropious = ultamite hm slaves. but i like bibarel better =D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 10, 2009, 01:29:42 pm
*Changes subject* So, who's gonna be your Hero and Partner in EoS, if you're getting it? Mine'll be a Riolu and Eevee as Hero and partner respectively, if I can pull it off. And Eevee'll evolve into Glaceon post-game.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on October 10, 2009, 01:36:21 pm
i don't know. i probably will get EoS.  *checks the pokĂ©mon options*  maybe eevee and cyndaquil, i don't know which i would be. i probably will get it eventually.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 10, 2009, 01:42:25 pm
Eevee's Female only, or at least for the Hero, so if it was that combination, you'd probably want Cyndaquil as your Hero.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Tom on October 10, 2009, 02:59:21 pm
*Changes subject* So, who's gonna be your Hero and Partner in EoS, if you're getting it? Mine'll be a Riolu and Eevee as Hero and partner respectively, if I can pull it off. And Eevee'll evolve into Glaceon post-game.
Probably the same as the last game, Pikachu and Cyndaquil.

Unless they took Pikachu out. D:


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 11, 2009, 03:16:48 pm
Pikachu'd never get taken out. It's like the Link of Zelda. =P

Working on finishing up EoT, but just got Shedinja owned in a mission, so that ended that quickly as that was my client. >_>


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Tom on October 12, 2009, 01:34:11 pm
Pikachu'd never get taken out. It's like the Link of Zelda. =P

Working on finishing up EoT, but just got Shedinja owned in a mission, so that ended that quickly as that was my client. >_>
Ugh, I hate weak clients. And pitfall traps. Really sucks when you're escorting someone and they fall into a Pitfall Trap and it counts as a death.

Anyways, I was playing Emerald yesterday and I caught nearly all the Johto Pokemon in the Safari Zone, Smeargle and Sudowoodo at the Battle Frontier, revived the two fossils, hatched Wynaut, and caught Kyorge, Groundon, Rayquaza, Regirock and Regice. I feel accomplished. (I bought it used by the way, so the team for the most part is completely new to me.)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 13, 2009, 12:45:10 pm
Yeah. Luckily, I continued after that and recruited a few legendary Pokemon like Giratina, and got the Rock Horn, so... A few good things happened. =)

And it's funny because I beat the Final Maze(and recruited Suicune and Moltres while I was at it), yet I can't even get through Mt. Mistrel(SP?) with a Shedinja as my client. ._. Gonna try again when I'm level 100... Might also help recruiting Ho-Oh.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: korchi12 on October 13, 2009, 07:08:24 pm
Anyone got a slowpoke holding a kings rock they would be willing to trade? Or just a Slowking? Either would be appreciated.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Tom on October 13, 2009, 09:17:50 pm
Anyone got a slowpoke holding a kings rock they would be willing to trade? Or just a Slowking? Either would be appreciated.
I think I might have one or two. I'll check tomorrow.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: korchi12 on October 14, 2009, 06:35:54 pm
Anyone got a slowpoke holding a kings rock they would be willing to trade? Or just a Slowking? Either would be appreciated.
I think I might have one or two. I'll check tomorrow.

Alright cool, thanks. I think my friend codes somewhere in this topic :P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on October 14, 2009, 07:20:37 pm
*sigh* heartgold and Soulsilver...now that we know a lot about them, it almost feels like it spoiled the surprise. Still, it's coming around fast...spring isn't all that far away.

I look forward to the release. But is the Pokewalker only for Gamestop, or does it come packaged like that wireless thing that came with FR/LG?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Tom on October 14, 2009, 07:31:12 pm
*sigh* heartgold and Soulsilver...now that we know a lot about them, it almost feels like it spoiled the surprise. Still, it's coming around fast...spring isn't all that far away.

I look forward to the release. But is the Pokewalker only for Gamestop, or does it come packaged like that wireless thing that came with FR/LG?
It'll probably come packaged. No way they'd ruin the game completely.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 15, 2009, 08:33:40 am
It's a sequel, except way more expanded than Pokemon Channel. =P

And it's prepackaged, though I have a sneaking suspicion that they're using a GBA-like box to hold the game's true box and the PokeWalker, that way the card is actually able to be stored.(These boxes are way better than the GBA boxes by far =P) But it won't be GameStop exclusive, as that would ruin it, and it wouldn't make sense why it'd be available to sync to on every other game, when you couldn't get it. So every game box will have a PokeWalker.

/EDIT: I predict the next movie will have at least one new Pokemon... The next generation is coming.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on October 15, 2009, 01:17:36 pm
@EDIT-agreed. Challenger approaching[/SSBSeries]

I just hope this movie is good. Since Destiny Deoxes, they've all been the same- a small legendary Pokemon gets driven away from its home and ash and co help, then a big legendary or two gets angry, and two big legendaries fight and Ash narrowly saves the day. Getting kind of lame after 4 or 5 uses. =P

I just hope Gen 5 doesn't come too quick.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on October 15, 2009, 01:19:17 pm
@EDIT-agreed. Challenger approaching[/SSBSeries]

I just hope this movie is good. Since Destiny Deoxes, they've all been the same- a small legendary Pokemon gets driven away from its home and ash and co help, then a big legendary or two gets angry, and two big legendaries fight and Ash narrowly saves the day. Getting kind of lame after 4 or 5 uses. =P

I just hope Gen 5 doesn't come too quick.

Not to mention that it all involves some gang trying to capture Pokemon and use it for their own gain.

I'm now trying to draw 5th Gen Pokemon...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 15, 2009, 01:41:25 pm
Not to mention that it all involves some gang trying to capture Pokemon and use it for their own gain.
Where'd that happen in Lucario and the Mystery of Mew?(Aside from Team Rocket, but they do that in every movie) That Weavile thing turned out to be a misunderstanding.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Tom on October 15, 2009, 07:28:30 pm
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It comes prepackaged, ddude.  Why do you think the boxes for the games were so bulky? ;) :P 

I must say, this new Pikachu game looks VERY interesting, and really could rival a "Hey You, Pikachu!" remake. :P
All it needs is the voice chat. :P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on October 16, 2009, 07:59:35 am
:P

MAJOR NEWS APPROACHING!!

According to Nintendo Power, Arceus will be distributed November 7-15 At Toys 'R Us for players of Diamond, Pearl And Platinum.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on October 16, 2009, 09:23:21 am
...

It's still big news it's coming this soon. And if it was from Nintendo Power, this means I may be getting my next issue soon ^_^

My first event Pokemon...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 16, 2009, 11:52:30 am
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It was distributed to Platinum anyway in Japan, that isn't news. :P  However, I'm EXTREMELY amazed at the timing of this.  I didn't expect us to get the Arceus event until January or February at the earliest.  Why we're getting it this early is FAR beyond me.  This is before THANKSGIVING, for heaven's sake. 

...

Perhaps the 12th movie and HGSS will be out in February/March?  Nintendo is getting faster and faster at this...
... Actually, the 12th movie's coming out in November or so... Right?(And it would fit, as it's the movie tie-in they're giving out.)

Also, is there anything about if it'll be like the Rotom event was and actually have Nintendo find Canada on the map again? If not, I may need to get some help, though I think I may have that help already found.

... Also, it may be before Thanksgiving for you, but... =P

And if someone here gets a second Arceus for me, could I request it be obtained on the 11th? =P

/EDIT: *Looks at scan* . . . GAAAAAH. I have doubt that it'll reach here, so I may have to go that route after all >_>


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on October 16, 2009, 02:36:55 pm
apparently, you can have a typhlosion with extrasensory, by breeding. that may move Typhlosion to OU...


@ blade: blade, i know the release date of hg/ss. positive of it. if you make me a flower member i will tell the forum...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 16, 2009, 02:39:59 pm
Get that team made and you can be if you really want to be for some weird reason =P

And the release date?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on October 16, 2009, 02:43:24 pm
i want to nut no one wants to join D= maybe if you could make it for me as a punishment...

i really need to work on my competive team, not my secret base >.>


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 16, 2009, 02:49:36 pm
No, that was Tim being Tim that made that happen.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on October 16, 2009, 03:00:30 pm
but blade being blade could make me a flower member for a release date =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on October 16, 2009, 03:02:47 pm
*changes topic*

Anyways, I am currently leveling up a Spearow to level 37, and has perfect HP IVs. Try to guess my next competitive Pokemon...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 16, 2009, 03:04:10 pm
Only if you get that team up and running. And last I checked, there wasn't any confirmed release dates...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on October 16, 2009, 03:04:44 pm
infernape, or forreterres

@ blade: not according to gamestop ;)

off topic: b~t we can discuss terms if our main part of our post is on topic


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 16, 2009, 03:11:07 pm
We already know about Gamestop's alleged release date, but I'm pretty sure there's been placeholder RDs before.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on October 16, 2009, 04:14:19 pm
no i am positive of the exact release date for hg/ss. it isn't april 23d or 6th or 4th. none of those.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on October 16, 2009, 04:20:01 pm
Link please. If you don't want to post it, PM me, as temp. mod of this board I'd like to review the forum. Um yeah, that's it. =P

@Tom- if you want voice chat, it's called Wii Speak. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on October 16, 2009, 04:24:06 pm
actually i found the release date irl, not on the computer.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 16, 2009, 04:29:08 pm
Hmm... Where?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on October 16, 2009, 04:38:32 pm
gamestop >.>

blade, if i post off topic here as a "punishment" can you make me a flower member? if you do i will reveal the release date.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 16, 2009, 04:45:25 pm
... If it was given to you at Gamestop, it'd be on their site, and that release date isn't exactly confirmed. And Tim wasn't supposed to do that, it's not a true punishment. >_>

/EDIT: Oh yeah, Arceus Event officially confirmed, same stuff as the Japan event, and the date mentioned in NP. . . . And confirmed to be only in the States and Puerto Rico >_<


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on October 16, 2009, 05:54:01 pm
i preordered it at a store and they said the release date then >.>


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 16, 2009, 06:00:19 pm
And what was the date? Was it like 4/1/09? And if Nintendo and Gamefreak haven't even released the date to anyone... Also, take note that GameStop's website doesn't even have the game box art yet, which'll obviously be the japanese art with a translated logo, since that's all it's been the last, oh... 3 gens?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Tom on October 16, 2009, 07:12:15 pm
... If it was given to you at Gamestop, it'd be on their site, and that release date isn't exactly confirmed. And Tim wasn't supposed to do that, it's not a true punishment. >_>

/EDIT: Oh yeah, Arceus Event officially confirmed, same stuff as the Japan event, and the date mentioned in NP. . . . And confirmed to be only in the States and Puerto Rico >_<
I'm getting 6, two for myself, 4 for a couple others.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on October 16, 2009, 07:15:44 pm
>.> blade, if you do not believe me, why don't you go to a gamestop and preorder one and ask for the releace date yourself.

i know it i and i will post it if i become a flower member.

i need to finish my final 3 pokémon for my competitive team...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 17, 2009, 11:05:14 am
The only way you're ever getting that is if you get that team made. I'm not getting bribed. That's that.

And I don't see how Nintendo would allow the actual Release date to be known months before they announce the release date... Sure, there have been leaks before, but that was closer to when it was gonna be released.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on October 17, 2009, 11:09:40 am
wagner, tell me the release date. As moderator of this board, I have the right to call you full of baloney. :P

Seriously, I will excersise my Probie powers on you. PM me the release date. And stop asking to become a flower member.

=O =O =O

This Pikachu game has...good graphics! It looks like Nintendo can make a good-graphic, fun Pokemon game on Wii after all!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 17, 2009, 11:12:57 am
The only reason it had those graphics for the other three games was to save space, as they were only Wii-Ware games, and they had 493 Pokemon to cram in, plus the shiny sprites(Right?) and the extra formes for some. That's a lot of models.

Whereas, for a full fledged game, it has more space, so they can do more with the graphics.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on October 17, 2009, 11:16:29 am
Yeah. But the Pokemiis were pretty ugly.

*wonders when melee Scramble will have a NA release announced*


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 17, 2009, 11:27:34 am
It does have a release date, SOON. Soon Or Otherwise Never. =P

And yeah, but not all of them were =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Tom on October 17, 2009, 11:30:14 am
Yeah. But the Pokemiis were pretty ugly.

*wonders when melee Scramble will have a NA release announced*
I wouldn't get it honest. If Ninty hasn't released the Platinum update for MPR, we might as well boycott the Pokemon WiiWare games. =/


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 17, 2009, 11:39:10 am
That's good and all... But it'd only work until they release the Mystery Dungeon games here because those seem pretty cool.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Tom on October 17, 2009, 04:04:14 pm
That's good and all... But it'd only work until they release the Mystery Dungeon games here because those seem pretty cool.
I know. ;-; I don't get why Ninty won't just please their fans and release the update.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 17, 2009, 04:24:51 pm
I think NoA reached it's limit of one fanservice thing per generation/lifetime with HGSS. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on October 17, 2009, 04:31:24 pm
=P

I would use MPR a lot more if it got teh Plat. upgrade. I would be willing to get enough Pokemon to receive Mew. Why would I do that? Because it's Mew. ^_^ =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on October 17, 2009, 05:51:05 pm
wagner, tell me the release date. As moderator of this board, I have the right to call you full of baloney. :P
no i won't. i do know it, but being in mod prep doesn't make you special. idrc if you call me that. name calling isn't going to help you become a mod...

i know it, but blade isn't being bribed...

i would post it if my team was made, but no one wants to join :-\


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Tom on October 18, 2009, 11:47:00 am
=P

I would use MPR a lot more if it got teh Plat. upgrade. I would be willing to get enough Pokemon to receive Mew. Why would I do that? Because it's Mew. ^_^ =P
I'd use it more too. I can't import tons of Pokemon and breed because of no update for Plat.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 18, 2009, 11:51:29 am
wagner, tell me the release date. As moderator of this board, I have the right to call you full of baloney. :P
no i won't. i do know it, but being in mod prep doesn't make you special. idrc if you call me that. name calling isn't going to help you become a mod...

i know it, but blade isn't being bribed...

i would post it if my team was made, but no one wants to join :-\
I call your bluff, you don't know the true release date that would hold up any scrutiny, or you'd tell us. And I'd like to know if it's real or not, so that I can plan for stuff and add it to the topic's release date stuff. And saying that you'll post it if you become a Flower Member kinda is trying to bribe someone, especially when you ask that to an admin. ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on October 18, 2009, 01:36:13 pm
if i post it i am not going to be a flower member, which is what i want. so basicly because you won't make me a flower member, i won't post it untill i become a flower; either by the team or blade making me one.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 18, 2009, 01:39:35 pm
... So you don't have enough faith in your team doing successfully that you have to have it without trying to bribe people by holding the unconfirmed release date above their heads? We don't just hand out membergroups like candy here unless there's a need, or something else needs it, like how the tournament board formerly needed a special membergroup.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on October 18, 2009, 01:53:15 pm
was the membergroup tim created for flower members deleted? if no one is in it, doesn't mean it is automaticly deleted...

and strangely no one wants to join the flower members :-\


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 18, 2009, 01:55:17 pm
I know it's deleted because I deleted it myself. That is not a punishment to be given out no matter what, and there was controversy surrounding that.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on October 18, 2009, 02:00:03 pm
i guess the release date will be revealed on serebii or if 4 more people join my team...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 18, 2009, 02:02:38 pm
Or, you could save the hassle and just tell us yourself maybe? =)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on October 18, 2009, 02:05:39 pm
that would be giving in. if you can't tell, i know it and am using it as a bribe to become a flower member, no one wants to join the team D=


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 18, 2009, 02:07:27 pm
Technically that won't help, as if you haven't noticed, most of the people who frequent this topic are already in teams. ;) And I don't give into bribes. That would cause Controversy. And I don't cause Controversy. That's Tim's job.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on October 18, 2009, 02:36:49 pm
not really blade... like the "interesting" stuff you do causes controversy.

so your saying that you are just going to have to wait for it, while i know it.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 18, 2009, 02:39:35 pm
You think you know it. I'm 99% sure GameStop's been wrong before. And right now you have no consequences, because as long as you don't tell us, when the release date is announced, you can say it's what you were told, and we'd be none the wiser. ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on October 18, 2009, 02:42:46 pm
well it is in april. you will see when it is revealed.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 18, 2009, 02:50:18 pm
What if it comes out in February or so? ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Tom on October 18, 2009, 03:05:50 pm
What if it comes out in February or so? ;)
Kinda doubt that. o: It'd probably be around when Plat came out.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 18, 2009, 03:08:57 pm
Which was a month earlier than D/P came out, even though it was only like 2 weeks earlier in Japan. So maybe early March, or even late February, since it wasn't that far from Platinum in Japan.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Tom on October 18, 2009, 03:11:01 pm
Which was a month earlier than D/P came out, even though it was only like 2 weeks earlier in Japan. So maybe early March, or even late February, since it wasn't that far from Platinum in Japan.
True.

I like the new board, I feel the urge to post pointless topics related to Pokemon. :P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 18, 2009, 03:16:12 pm
Heh, that'd be interesting. =P

Also, if you didn't see, if you've got Wondermail codes to share, post them in the Wondermail list topic, and I'll add them under the correct heading whether it's Time and Darkness or Sky. And of course, RRT and BRT. Probably even the Wii-Ware games, but I don't think anyone here has those...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: timposter on October 19, 2009, 10:27:58 am
That would cause Controversy. And I don't cause Controversy. That's Tim's job.

Haha, yes. =P

Pokemon.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 19, 2009, 02:51:13 pm
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Haha, nuuuuuuuu! D= 

Nothing notable in da pogeymanz right now...
Except the 99% chance of there being a new Pokemon or two in the next movie. ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on October 19, 2009, 03:37:17 pm
That would cause Controversy. And I don't cause Controversy. That's Tim's job.

Haha, yes. =P

Uh, your post is considered spam...

Anyways, I just learned that when a Pokemon egg is created, its Gender, Nature, and Ability are all set. When the egg is given to you is when the IVs are determined. Very helpful for an IV breeder like me.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: timposter on October 19, 2009, 03:45:47 pm
I'm the Senior Field Agent here.  You don't have to tell me what spam is, Probie.  -_-


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 19, 2009, 03:46:28 pm
Hmm, that's an interesting piece of news...

/EDIT: *Whacks Tim upside the head* Get to work Soul.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on October 19, 2009, 03:47:37 pm
I'm the Senior Field Agent here.  You don't have to tell me what spam is, Probie.  -_-
That looks like spam too, Spamior Field Agent. :P /jk

Anything new about Arceus and the Jewel of Life?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on October 19, 2009, 03:52:52 pm
I'm the Senior Field Agent here.  You don't have to tell me what spam is, Probie.  -_-

*cough* What DT said.

@DT - All I know is that... uh... it involves Arceus and Heatran, and it involves Arc *gets hit by a bat*

OK.. OK... I won't give spoilers...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on October 19, 2009, 03:57:47 pm
*hits the person who hit you with a bat with a bat*

Spoil away! =D =P

I wonder if melee scramble will actually be any good...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 19, 2009, 04:18:21 pm
Someone steals the Jewel of Life, which is made up of four of Arceus' plates, and Arceus takes revenge on Ash and co. ... What, were you expecting the ending? =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Tom on October 19, 2009, 04:20:27 pm
Someone steals the Jewel of Life, which is made up of four of Arceus' plates, and Arceus takes revenge on Ash and co. ... What, were you expecting the ending? =P
Not really, I can already tell what it'll be. Ash and Co. whining about something, then Arceus restores peace to the world and Team Rocket blasts off again. /movie :P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on October 19, 2009, 04:22:25 pm
@Blade-I already knew all that. =P

@Tom-=P

It would be nice if this movie was slightly less predictable than the others...The only reason I even watch the movies because of the Giant Legendary Pokemon battle that occurs somewhere in the movie. =D =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 19, 2009, 04:22:56 pm
It's a little more than that, but minus the Team Rocket part(I think that may happen earlier in the movie =P), I think that may be the movie actually =P ... Shouldn't we be talking about this in the other topic so it gets posts? =P

Well, there is a plot twist, which I'm not ruining, but... Also, you get to see NEP/SEP ^^


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on October 19, 2009, 04:31:59 pm
It's a little more than that, but minus the Team Rocket part(I think that may happen earlier in the movie =P), I think that may be the movie actually =P ... Shouldn't we be talking about this in the other topic so it gets posts? =P

Well, there is a plot twist, which I'm not ruining, but... Also, you get to see NEP/SEP ^^
NEP/SEP?

Meh, I'll maybe post in the movie topic.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 19, 2009, 04:32:58 pm
Notched Ear/Spiky Ear Pichu. ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on October 19, 2009, 04:39:12 pm
Ah.

Can you PM me the plot twist? I don't really mind things gettin' spoiled.

Has anyone here used Tropius as any function other than HM Slave?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 19, 2009, 04:52:05 pm
I forget the character it involves, so... =P

/EDIT: GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH.

Quote
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I am wondering: Will there be a Pokemon Platinum version update for My Pokemon Ranch?
I'm afraid there are currently no plans to make My Pokemon Ranch compatible with Pokemon Platinum Version, but we'll let you know if anything changes.
. . . One, they said that about HGSS, like one or two years ago. Two, the update's already made, they just need to translate the thing! ><><><


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Tom on October 19, 2009, 05:53:40 pm
I forget the character it involves, so... =P

/EDIT: GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH.

Quote
Quote
I am wondering: Will there be a Pokemon Platinum version update for My Pokemon Ranch?
I'm afraid there are currently no plans to make My Pokemon Ranch compatible with Pokemon Platinum Version, but we'll let you know if anything changes.
. . . One, they said that about HGSS, like one or two years ago. Two, the update's already made, they just need to translate the thing! ><><><
We plan a massive online day of calling? Flood their help lines, demand MPR Platinum Update?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on October 19, 2009, 06:02:15 pm
That could work. We could also try to boycott MPR until the update comes...although that might not work.

I get Nintendo Power, so I could write a letter to them about it...although if they published it, it would show my name...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 19, 2009, 06:10:41 pm
DT: Don't they allow internet stuff...?

Tom: Might work, but I don't know if I'd be allowed to =P

I'm just hoping this 'not in the plans' stuff changes quickly like HGSS.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: timposter on October 19, 2009, 06:20:54 pm
Hmm, that's an interesting piece of news...

/EDIT: *Whacks Tim upside the head* Get to work Soul.

o.o Yes, Boss.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 25, 2009, 10:23:52 am
Except, there's the fact that if it was to evolve, they'd have to program in new sprites for other variants of the evolutions. And I figure this may be a precursor of sorts to the next gen stuff, like maybe other new sprites, or a variant of Pikachu and Raichu. What I wanna know though, is if you can nickname the Pichu...

Hmm, interesting... You get BP in the Battle House... This could be useful... Do you get EXP as well, or no? ... Well, if you get set to Level 50 for the battle, I assume no, you don't =P

/EDIT: . . . Can you get a different roaming Pokemon(Like different IVs and Shinyness and such) by defeating it and rebeating the E4? I think I heard something about that, but... That'll be my only way of getting a Shiny Latios if so, since I happen to have the wrong game to soft reset for one. ><


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Tom on October 25, 2009, 11:54:20 am
I found my Battle Frontier away from the Battle Frontier then. :D No more pointless restricts and pure battle.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on October 27, 2009, 07:34:17 pm
*attempts and fails to revive topic*

Sweet. The Power Items can now be used in HG/SS to easily pass IVs during breeding...  :)

HP and Defense IVs now more easier to pass!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on October 27, 2009, 07:38:39 pm
Yeah, I'm glad they're making the breeding process easier...I might breed my Extremespeed Dratini and get one with 31 Attack and Speed IVs. EPIC WIN DRAGONITE ^____^

I've been sort of losing my interest in Pokemon lately...but that'll change with the release of HG/SS. BTW, I got Nintendo Power today, and I can confirm we'll be getting Arceus from November 7-15.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: korchi12 on October 28, 2009, 06:19:55 am
Oh yeah the tournament. Heh, Im just rushing to get em' to level 100. I think I'll be ready by November though. But I doubt I will make it past round one :P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on October 28, 2009, 08:49:23 am
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We've known about that for weeks, ddude. :P 
I was just confirming it. =P

Ah yes, the tournament...the wifi requiring tournament...D=

I'm happy IVs are much easier to acquire now. I think I'll apply to be a breeder. If anyone wants me to horribly mess up their Pokemon, mesa help. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on October 28, 2009, 02:26:08 pm
Oh yeah the tournament. Heh, Im just rushing to get em' to level 100. I think I'll be ready by November though. But I doubt I will make it past round one :P

You don't need to raise them to level 100  ;)

Wi-fi automatically raises your Pokemon to level 100.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Tom on October 28, 2009, 06:37:23 pm
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Yeah.  I only have three guys trained. >__> 

I'd like to have all of the participants registered with all necessary info by midnight this Saturday.  That way, I can start setting up the spreadsheet.  I'd considered doing a tiered tournament, but then I decided we should make it a round robin tournament instead.  That way, the tournament lasts longer, and I can differentiate placing better. :)  What do you guys think? 

Mew is going to be distributed over Wi-Fi to all GenIV games.  Well there went Mew's rarity. -__-  The Enigma Crystal will also be distributed over Wi-Fi, once the distribution of Mew to HGSS players ends.  So much for Blade's theory. :P 
Mew didn't already lose it? You'd think with all those breeders and D/P they'd have Pokemon Ranch filled.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on October 28, 2009, 06:39:34 pm
Huh...can someone try to get an extra Mew for me? I'll have Wi-fi sooner or later, but for now...D=

Well, looks like I'll be getting me an Arceus soonish. =D I missed Shaymin and Darkrai, but I won't let this one slip through my fingers. =P

Oh yes, the tournament...the one I won't be participating in.

Although I guess I could get Mew if I buckled down and used my Diamond to get a ton of Pokemon for MPR...=/


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on October 28, 2009, 07:02:03 pm
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Yeah.  I only have three guys trained. >__> 

Only have, like 5 guys trained.

And I really need that Power Item that boosts Defense EV Gain, but I don't have enough BP...  :'(


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: korchi12 on October 28, 2009, 07:32:21 pm
Wait what thing that boosts EVS? What item is it?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on October 28, 2009, 07:56:45 pm
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Haha, I've got like 180 BP. :P  Do you just want me to send you one?  I can do so, free of charge. :) 

@ddude:  The Mew Wi-Fi event won't happen in America until after HGSS comes out. ;)

Wait, you got Wi-Fi back?

Give me one and I'll give you Blade's FAVORITE POKEMON (QUOTE MY POST) for free.  ;D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on October 28, 2009, 08:23:21 pm
Nice one B~T. =P

So, anyone have a reccomended Nature for my future Arceus?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on October 29, 2009, 08:55:53 am
1st Star-well that was sort of obvious. =P
2nd Star-SS will be the first Pokemon game I have with a completed Pokedex. ^_^ I hope. =P
3rd Star-Ah yes, the Pokethlon...=/
4th Star-I really don't get what the point of those Golden Leaves is. =P
5th Star-Well, this one's easier to get than the second. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on October 29, 2009, 09:17:42 pm
I should be completely ready for the tournament next week/week after. =D

And you guys just had to close the GGGGGRRRRRAAAAHHHH topic before I could get to it. Dx


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on October 29, 2009, 09:40:36 pm
I should be completely ready for the tournament next week/week after. =D

And you guys just had to close the GGGGGRRRRRAAAAHHHH topic before I could get to it. Dx

That's what you get for locking a topic I was going to post in once...  ::)

And I need to breed a Blissey, and get a Swampert...

Quote of the Day:

http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,4842.0.html

In the Pokemon Board. Guess what it is.  >:D
GGGGRRRRRAAAAAHHHHHH


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on October 30, 2009, 05:22:17 pm
if anyone wants to see me pwn my brother, here is the battle id, 15-28740-50813


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 30, 2009, 05:53:48 pm
... Wait, no star for Red? =/ Everything else I expected, but if there's no star for beating Red, then why not? ... Meh, we get a ribbon at least...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 30, 2009, 06:56:27 pm
Yes, only the most powerful trainer in the games. =P

... Well, couldn't it run over? Because, what with my computer being out, I haven't been working on my team...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on October 30, 2009, 11:03:49 pm
Just got a Shed Shell of a Venomoth today, since I do not have the Shed Shell yet (I know where it is).

Guess who's it for...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on October 31, 2009, 09:24:28 am
does anyone have any soul dew from pbr? i could use one for the battle frontier.

i am not ready for the tournament. only 4/6 trained. though i am working on my final two...

EDIT: now 5/6 done =D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on October 31, 2009, 10:30:48 pm
Dudebot vs Black~Terror 1: 14-81672-84530

w00t. I bet Blade is jealous. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 01, 2009, 07:51:34 am
i may train a donphan as a revenge/dragon killer (ice shard).

i still need to hatch a jolly/adamant shroomish. >.>

Edit: hatched one. anyone want to battle? i could still probably work on my team some.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 01, 2009, 10:21:19 am
Dudebot: Well, either way I lose to both of you currently, so... =P ... Well, assuming that everything in that competitive battling topic is final, I should try to get started on the stuff today... ... Now I just have to track down a few Ditto so I have more natures... Now would be a good time for Emerald to give me a Sync Male Adamant Ralts =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 01, 2009, 10:22:19 am
blade, can you battle me? you will probably pwn me =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 01, 2009, 10:26:10 am
Have you even seen my team I use against Dudebot? =P I need to train my competitive team before I even think of actually battling people here right now. =P *Wishes HGSS was here so I could use that epic new breeding mechanism*


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 01, 2009, 10:27:38 am
the only person i battled is my brother =(. you probably will pwn me. you see, dudebot is good, i am bad.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 01, 2009, 10:31:19 am
I don't think it's the fact that he was good =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 01, 2009, 10:32:43 am
he beat b~t. still you probably will beat me. i don't want to test me new improvements on my brother. he is awful. he th

also dudebot will probably agree with me that he is good =P

i will go easy.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 01, 2009, 10:40:35 am
And B~T beat me =P Heck, I use Luxray. xP But why not, I'll use my team one last time before I start trying to get my Competitive team ready.

/EDIT: ... *Is waiting on WFC*

//EDIT: ... Post here when you're ready, 'k?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 01, 2009, 10:56:21 am
sorry for not responding. my computer crashed. connecting to wi-fi...

Edit: seeking participants

Edit: blade are you on?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 01, 2009, 10:59:23 am
Yeah, just give me a couple minutes, lunch. And I was seeing if I had the correct sync natures I needed, but apparently not.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 01, 2009, 11:00:39 am
i think i have a level 52 adamant synchronize alazazam. i am still waiting...

Edit: please hurry blade. i s bord =(


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 01, 2009, 11:06:56 am
Getting on now... I think I may have an Adamant Sync Ralts over on Sapphire...

/EDIT: aaaah, now I see what you did there. Still fainted you though ;) Guess it doesn't work if you use it after the second time. =P(... I feel like I'm in a contest xP)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 01, 2009, 11:10:02 am
you metagross made my focus sash useless =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 01, 2009, 11:12:03 am
xD See, the sash only protects if it's from full health. ;)

Huh, that's interesting...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 01, 2009, 11:12:45 am
i think my forretress is an epic win =)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 01, 2009, 11:13:51 am
I blame that on my Metagross having three moves, all non-effective. =P Now, how are you gonna actually attack me? =P

/EDIT: ... Well that's not good...

/EDIT: *Eyetwitch* ... nor that...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 01, 2009, 11:15:59 am
i will spike then explode =)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 01, 2009, 11:16:50 am
._.; That's definitely not good...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 01, 2009, 11:19:45 am
w00t i s going to use facade


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 01, 2009, 11:20:26 am
Oh, don't worry... You won't have it out long. >=D

/EDIT: ... Oh dang.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 01, 2009, 11:21:39 am
or will i =)

Edit: i really am starting to like my breloom.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 01, 2009, 11:23:01 am
._.; Remember how I said you'd win? =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 01, 2009, 11:24:21 am
yeah, this is my first time using my breloom =P he great.

why did you use crunch >.>

Edit: i think i will let the poison kill you =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 01, 2009, 11:26:08 am
Focus Punch? Seriously? =P

And I used Crunch because other than Strength and my Electric moves, it's my only move on there... And I didn't know it didn't effect Breloom. -_-;

/EDIT: AHA! Why didn't I use this earlier? >=D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 01, 2009, 11:27:36 am
i am purposely not attacking you to see how defensive breeloom is =)

Edit: blade, my breeloom knows seed bomb. i am testing to see if my breloom is defensive


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 01, 2009, 11:28:49 am
>< ... Can you give me a little bit to switch out a Pokemon? I knew not bringing a fire type was a bad idea =P

/EDIT: Lemme just upload that and switch out a Pokemon.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 01, 2009, 11:30:44 am
after i upload it maybe i will rematch w/o my breloom.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 01, 2009, 11:31:58 am
... Wait, you saved the video too? I've got the next video then =P And no, keep your Breloom, I'm switching out a Pokemon to see if I can actually get some damage done =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 01, 2009, 11:36:01 am
don't be upset if you can't =P

i think i will switch my special wall... (altaria)

96-00890-71887


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 01, 2009, 11:37:37 am
Yeah, Special wall, the Physical Dragon move took it down =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 01, 2009, 11:39:13 am
i thought it was good, it destroyed my brother. it was my first pokémon and it didn't faint =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 01, 2009, 11:41:26 am
It was good. It was just that my Dragonite was better. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 01, 2009, 11:44:37 am
if sing only hit =P

i switched altaria out, and put in umbreon =)

i am waiting...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 01, 2009, 11:46:39 am
I'm already on though...

Umbreon: Well that'll be interesting...

/EDIT: Say, B~T, if you use the egg hatch and such to figure out the nature and such and then try to reset for IVs, how do you figure out the IVs? Since to get on Wi-Fi you have to save...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on November 01, 2009, 06:54:07 pm
I'm having so much fun watching Blade get owned by period.  :P

Blade: I'll work on that Ditto you want.

And you basically use Rare Candies and put it in an IV Calculator.
And look at the Memo on your Pokemon for signs that it has perfect IVs.



Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 01, 2009, 07:01:12 pm
Did you see the one that I posted? =P

And what if it's a good one? wouldn't it be a bad thing that it's Rare Candied with no EVs? =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on November 01, 2009, 07:04:34 pm
Did you see the one that I posted? =P

And what if it's a good one? wouldn't it be a bad thing that it's Rare Candied with no EVs? =P
IF it has bad IVs, then you soft reset (DO NOT SAVE)

If it has good IVs, then you keep as it is, if you have spare RCs.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 01, 2009, 07:05:55 pm
blade you got lucky in the one you posted =P

want to battle again blade? i did just pwn my brother. 1 vs 6 and i won. he had 6 pokémon and i had 1. i need to test my kabutops against better people >.>

Edit: nvm. i will battle b~t.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 01, 2009, 07:09:52 pm
The only luck was that Typlosion didn't get owned, and that Feraligatr actually had some good defense. =P

B~T: So, then, how high do you go?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 01, 2009, 07:12:33 pm
i am battling b~t now =)

Edit: i got haxed >.>


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on November 01, 2009, 07:13:58 pm
The only luck was that Typlosion didn't get owned, and that Feraligatr actually had some good defense. =P

B~T: So, then, how high do you go?

As many RCs as you can. The more the better.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 01, 2009, 07:15:53 pm
What if you level it to level 100, but keep it unevolved and find it to be good? That'd be a d'oh moment, especially because you can't get EVs onto a level 100. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 01, 2009, 07:18:09 pm
or you can just have a test-battle >.>


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on November 01, 2009, 07:28:37 pm
What if you level it to level 100, but keep it unevolved and find it to be good? That'd be a d'oh moment, especially because you can't get EVs onto a level 100. =P

Then don't raise it to level 100...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 01, 2009, 07:30:15 pm
That would save it, so if it's perfect nature, perfect Gender, shiny, and has the perfect ability... But had like all 0 in IVs, and you did an EV battle to check, you'd be rather annoyed since it would save. See, the nature, gender, ability, and if it's shiny or not is set when the Egg's created... But IVs are set when it's taken. So if you save before getting the egg, you can try to reset for epic awesome IVs.

B~T: ... Point. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 01, 2009, 07:35:05 pm
i got haxed =(


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 01, 2009, 07:36:13 pm
Hmm, did he bring out a Togekiss on you? ... Oh wait, that's Dudebot. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 01, 2009, 07:45:02 pm
it was kinda like what happened too you. his skarmory should've fainted many times but was still alive >.>. i seem to get haxed a lot.

i will upload it tomorrow, if b~t doesn't.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on November 01, 2009, 07:47:28 pm
it was kinda like what happened too you. his skarmory should've fainted many times but was still alive >.>. i seem to get haxed a lot.

i will upload it tomorrow, if b~t doesn't.

I can't upload since I play on Diamond for Wi-Fi.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 01, 2009, 07:49:16 pm
k. i will upload it tomorrow.

what do you think of my team?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on November 01, 2009, 07:53:04 pm
That would save it, so if it's perfect nature, perfect Gender, shiny, and has the perfect ability... But had like all 0 in IVs, and you did an EV battle to check, you'd be rather annoyed since it would save. See, the nature, gender, ability, and if it's shiny or not is set when the Egg's created... But IVs are set when it's taken. So if you save before getting the egg, you can try to reset for epic awesome IVs.

B~T: ... Point. =P

Exactly, don't save once the egg hatches...



Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 01, 2009, 08:02:51 pm
if you want to know ivs, battle a friend with your level 1s and check their ivs with an iv calculator, it is perfectly accurate for level 100s.

it works for me.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on November 01, 2009, 08:07:43 pm
That would save it, so if it's perfect nature, perfect Gender, shiny, and has the perfect ability... But had like all 0 in IVs, and you did an EV battle to check, you'd be rather annoyed since it would save. See, the nature, gender, ability, and if it's shiny or not is set when the Egg's created... But IVs are set when it's taken. So if you save before getting the egg, you can try to reset for epic awesome IVs.

B~T: ... Point. =P

Or just battle Pokemon to raise their levels, and make sure to keep track of the EVs they yield. That way, no Rare Candies wasted.  :)

@period - I think you have to save in order to battle, so it will not work out. 


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 01, 2009, 08:10:08 pm
you do. though you will have extra pokémon. of the nature if you manipulate it. i find it easier because you don't waste rare candies.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on November 01, 2009, 08:11:40 pm
you do. though you will have extra pokémon. of the nature if you manipulate it. i find it easier because you don't waste rare candies.

And you cannot save, since you do not know what IVs your Pokemon has yet, and if they have bad IVs, then what are you going to do?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 01, 2009, 08:17:43 pm
either releace them or put them in the pc.

i kinda want to battle rakashi sometime... i think he would win. blade beat me =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 02, 2009, 12:17:35 pm
B~T: *Sees Wagner's sig* Hey, I've gotten a little better since you fought me, I don't think you've battled me since I added Metagross and Dragonite to my team. xP Plus, I always go up against your competitive teams; so I'm naturally at a disadvantage. =P

Wagner: But we're saying to reset for good IVs on an egg you've already got if it's good. Your idea is using the 'breed thousands of eggs all at once' method. ;) You can't save once you take the egg from the day-care man, unless you've got a good Pokemon from it, or you'll have to restart the breeding process, and if you've got a shiny perfect natured perfect gendered Pokemon miraculously, I doubt you'd want to go through a ton of time to get it again... ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 02, 2009, 02:24:05 pm
anyone want to battle? if i lost to blade i could lose to anyone =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on November 02, 2009, 02:54:34 pm
Strange thing to be proud of, ain't it? =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 02, 2009, 02:55:43 pm
i completely pwned him the first time, then he got really really lucky =P i still lost...

dudebot, want to battle?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 02, 2009, 02:58:32 pm
Typlosion was luck. My Feraligatr must have good defense EVs/IVs, like my Torterra(Remember that, Dudebot? =P). ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 02, 2009, 03:00:18 pm
iz wantz 2 batl nao D=

does anyone want to battle...

doesn't your feraligator know cut? =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 02, 2009, 03:06:08 pm
Yes, but it made up for that by Crunching your Alakazam. =P And the only reason it knows cut is because it was passed on to it I assume.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 02, 2009, 03:08:19 pm
bade want to batte? does any one want to battle me? i am not that good....


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on November 02, 2009, 03:30:24 pm
like my Torterra(Remember that, Dudebot? =P). ;)
Nope. Which vid?

My DS, as old as it is, has finally hit fail-mode. Well, at least partial-fail mode. The graphics in the upper screen have started switching colors. This, of course, makes Pokemon fail-play. Dx


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 02, 2009, 03:32:54 pm
1. It's called the Battle Frontier. =P

2. You sure you didn't just run into a Shiny? =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 02, 2009, 03:35:34 pm
any one want to battle... i will probably get pwnd OR haxed.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on November 02, 2009, 03:39:21 pm
1. It's called the Battle Frontier. =P

2. You sure you didn't just run into a Shiny? =P
1. Oh yeah. =P

2. No, the entire screen changes color. Granted, I use the original DS, in which my top screen is practically falling off, but still. D=


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 02, 2009, 03:41:21 pm
in which my top screen is practically falling off
... That's your problem right there. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 02, 2009, 03:44:16 pm
people are ignoring me. i want to battle, and i will probably lose, and i am 3/3 for good battles. i have a few new pokémon for blade to face.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on November 02, 2009, 03:54:39 pm
in which my top screen is practically falling off
... That's your problem right there. =P
I know. =P

But I dun't leik it. Dx


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 02, 2009, 03:56:19 pm
iz being ignored. plz battle mah. i will pwn, get pwned, or get haxed. please battle me =(


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on November 02, 2009, 05:08:00 pm
like my Torterra(Remember that, Dudebot? =P). ;)
Nope. Which vid?

My DS, as old as it is, has finally hit fail-mode. Well, at least partial-fail mode. The graphics in the upper screen have started switching colors. This, of course, makes Pokemon fail-play. Dx

Ms D-Pad Buttons are getting old, especially the Left and Right buttons D= (Not the ones on the corners of the DS)
And my DS is getting dirty-ish, since mine is white.

As a result, it is becoming a bit challenging to use the egg route in Emerald... 


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 02, 2009, 07:57:04 pm
the top screen on my phat ds broke, though i do have a ds lite and a dsi.

anyone want to battle now? probably not...

if anyone wants to battle i can battle at around 1:00 :


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on November 03, 2009, 10:18:47 pm
Fun Fact of the Day: My Skarmory has 0 IVs in Speed XD

Gyro Ball anyone?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on November 04, 2009, 02:52:45 pm
I'd say so. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 04, 2009, 02:56:15 pm
does anyone want to battle or need any battle frontier items? (choice items, tms, etc) if so pm me =)

soul dew latios pwns the entire frontier. i am genius =) i have a lot of bp.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on November 04, 2009, 03:21:03 pm
Should be black for the last card. >_<


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 04, 2009, 03:22:31 pm
i have around 300 bp

i will give anyone up to 6 tms/items from the battle frontier if they are willing to get me and adamant phanphy with ice shard and good ivs =)

does anyone want to battle?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 04, 2009, 03:23:30 pm
Anyone happen to have a spare Life Orb? I kinda need one >> If not, can anyone help me trade one over? It might not be today, but maybe tomorrow.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 04, 2009, 03:26:51 pm
do you want mine? i have two from my diamond and my platinum. i may need them though.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 04, 2009, 03:29:03 pm
Well, find out if you need it first. If you do, I think I have one on my Diamond anyway.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 04, 2009, 03:32:31 pm
i think i need one of them actually.

i really need to train an ice shard adamant phanphy because no one will take my deal =(

anyone want to battle? i am not very good. i will pwn (see blade vs .~wagner in the video id # topic) or get haxed (see me vs. B~T or me vs blade 2)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 04, 2009, 03:38:24 pm
You pwned in that first match because I let you set up Entry Hazards and didn't have a Fire Pokemon =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 04, 2009, 03:42:25 pm
i still pwnd you. and i will probably pwn you again if you battle my unfinished sandstorm team. (i still need to get a donphan)

also what does he mean when he says the tournament is round robin?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 05, 2009, 11:44:39 am
I made a new deal. If you battle me i may give you a battle frontier item. i need to test my team on someone else besides my brother.

Edit: Sorry for the double post. i can't merge my posts. i didn't realize i had the post before.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on November 05, 2009, 02:50:39 pm
@wagner-If you want to put your team to the test, try the Battle Frontier. =P

yes, you will pwn with Salamence, until I get mah Extremespeed Dragonite with 31 attack and speed IVs. =D =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 05, 2009, 02:55:49 pm
... Say, I wonder... I hope none of my team needs egg moves. >>;


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on November 05, 2009, 03:07:10 pm
That could cause you to fail, Blade. =P

Want me to check for you? =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 05, 2009, 03:11:22 pm
It'd be appreciated

Swampert - Stealth Rock, E-Quake, Ice Beam, Roar
Infernape - Nasty Plot, Flamethrower, Vacuum Wave, Grass Knot
Gallade - Close Combat, Night Slash, Psycho Cut, Swords Dance
Salamance - Outrage, E-Quake, Flamethrower, Roost
Electivire - E-Quake, Cross Chop, Ice Punch, Thunderpunch
Togekiss - Air Slash, Thunder Wave, Roost, Aura Sphere


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on November 05, 2009, 03:24:29 pm
Swampert - (4 TMs)
Infernape - (Nasty Plot - Lv 23 Chimchar, 2 TMs, 1 Move Tutor)
Gallade - (3 Level Up, 1 TM)
Salamance - (3 TMs, 1 Move Tutor)
Electivire - (Cross Chop - Egg Move, 1 TM, 1 Move Tutor, 1 Level Up)
Togekiss - (2 TMs, 2 Move Relearners)

Ouch. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 05, 2009, 03:28:17 pm
Actually, that's not bad; Primeape's the one who passes on Cross Chop, right?

Oh, and just for curiousity sake, what is Thunderbolt on Electivire?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on November 05, 2009, 03:32:45 pm
Electivire learns Thunderbolt by Level Up


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on November 05, 2009, 03:33:34 pm
Along with Machamp, and any number of Fighting types =P

Level up move.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on November 05, 2009, 03:35:10 pm
Actually, Primeape cannot breed with Electivire for Cross Chop.

Only the Machamp line.

Get one from Victory Road, as it is guaranteed that the Machoke there have Cross Chop.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 05, 2009, 03:36:29 pm
Alright then, I may still have a chance. And just to check, if I get the egg move on it once, can I then pass it down via that Pokemon? So I could get Cross Chop on and use a Ditto?

... Ah dang. Thanks B~T. I'll get it tonight then, and get started on my mass breeding tomorrow =)

Oh, and Ditto? =)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on November 05, 2009, 03:42:07 pm
Yes, you can teach it to one and Ditto the rest. ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on November 05, 2009, 03:42:45 pm
I'll try to get my DS... >_>

And Swampert can learn Earthquake by Level-up, I believe...

And if you have an egg move on a certain Pokemon, and you breed it with a Ditto, regardless of gender, it will still pass it down. So if you have an Elekid with Cross Chop, and you wish for another Elekid with Cross Chop, then you can breed it with Ditto and still pass the egg move down.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 05, 2009, 03:59:29 pm
Oh sweet, that's good news =D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on November 05, 2009, 04:02:19 pm
I'm not really playing Pokemon, but I'm still working on a Soul Silver Competitive Team in my Head....

Feraligatr
Dragonite w/Extremespeed =D
Heracross

...yeah. =P It's still a work in progress.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 05, 2009, 04:04:45 pm
Oh sweet, that's good news =D
blade i think i have a jolly ditto if you want it.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on November 05, 2009, 04:11:08 pm
Oh sweet, that's good news =D
blade i think i have a jolly ditto if you want it.

He wants Calm, not Jolly.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 05, 2009, 04:15:39 pm
i think i have a calm ditto in my leafgreen i could migrate.

anyone want to battle? i have my vs. brother team as my party now and i am battling him.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on November 05, 2009, 04:51:35 pm
*sigh* Wagner, I think we've established you want to battle someone. We'll let you know if anyone else does. =P

So, you guys ready to get Arceus? =D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 05, 2009, 04:53:25 pm
I definitely am. =)

I wonder just how soon it will be to HGSS though...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 05, 2009, 05:45:15 pm
blade do you want the calm ditto?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 05, 2009, 05:46:35 pm
I'll wait for B~T. ;) Besides, I've got the means to get the other Ditto I need, and already have 3 out of the 5 Dittos. =)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Tom on November 07, 2009, 11:05:54 am
Quote
HGSS might not be all that far off...Nintendo said spring, and that would match my estimates, but while statistically it matches up, logically, it doesn't. 

Look when America is getting its first look at the new movie.  We're barely into November, and we already get the 12th movie sprung on us.  Same with the release of Arceus itself.  Pikachu Colored Pichu may follow into December.  And considering it was announced officially to the American public before the release in Japan, Nintendo is moving at an astronomical pace...
Surprising considering they take so long on things. Like Zelda. :P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 07, 2009, 01:12:16 pm
Yeah, they take a while on some things, but not on others. xP


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 07, 2009, 05:09:47 pm
blade is your team close to ready yet?b if you want to test any one just battle me =)

no the date is in april. i know it =)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 07, 2009, 05:14:37 pm
April? Well, if it's following Plat, it won't be unless it's very early April.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 07, 2009, 05:17:09 pm
actually it is early april...

blade want to battle? please?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 09, 2009, 12:31:31 pm
Oh, and if it's following HGSS, it'll be before what Plat's release day was this year. Like, it was September the 13th or something last year for Plat, and it was September 12th this year for HGSS.

Also, please tell me how Gamestop would know something that the publishers don't tell usually until a couple months before, just wondering how it would work. Especially since Nintendo should know by now what happens when you tell people ahead of time. *Points at last year's incident with Best Buy or Circuit City or whatever it was revealing it before Nintendo by accident*

Plus there's the fact that they're releasing Arceus so early, along with showing the movie on TV earlier as well. Plus, let's not forget; the DVD isn't even out yet in Japan last I checked. And the DVD's due here around Spring. So, wouldn't that mean HGSS would come out a little before? Oh, and is there a TCG schedule? Because depending on what the schedule is, HGSS could release alongside the LEGEND collection.

Granted, we still need Pikachu Coloured Pichu released, but I expect that to happen after Arceus' finished being given out. But once PCP's revealed as an event, I expect a flood of English HGSS info and updates to the mini-site.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 09, 2009, 02:18:03 pm
yeah i know it. they probably were not supposed to tell me >.>

do you want to battle blade =)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 09, 2009, 02:19:56 pm
Not yet, I've still gotta train my team, and breed the rest.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on November 09, 2009, 02:35:14 pm
Not yet, I've still gotta train my team, and breed the rest.

And I have yet to give Blade the Ditto. ;_;

Know what? I think I can breed Blade a Calm Togepi in the process. I cannot maximize happiness since Happiness resets when trading occurs.

I have, like, 7 Shiny Stones, and I can let Togepi hold one.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 09, 2009, 02:37:32 pm
Actually, ironically I found a Calm Ralts on my Emerald's Boxes yesterday. So, I just migrated that. I only got three Calm Serene Grace Togepi when I bred though... =/ Plus, likely it's got like 1 IV points in the stats it needs =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 09, 2009, 03:52:34 pm
i need to find a paraflinch counter =P

i have enough pokémon for 2 teams so i can vary my teams =)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 09, 2009, 03:54:04 pm
asdf my team I currently have isn't exactly the best. I think the Gallade I'll be training will be one of my best IVed Pokemon =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 09, 2009, 04:15:36 pm
i am lazy but i often get 31 in the stat(s) i want on my first 5 eggs... i am kind of lucky that way. it doesn't take me long to IV breed =)

I am going to get a paraflinch counter, and i already have imo the best DD salamence counter =)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 09, 2009, 04:18:36 pm
I got 31 in Def on one of my Togepi, but it fails in Special Attack and Speed ><


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 09, 2009, 04:20:23 pm
that stinks >.> what method do you use to find ivs? i use test battles =)

incase your wondering the best dd salamence counter is a dd salamence =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 09, 2009, 04:23:54 pm
That's exactly what I used.

And that's good, I'm not using one. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 09, 2009, 04:28:13 pm
Iz luv stokpil!!11!!!1!! Epik Haksishnes!11!!!11!now i need to get a hippowdon with one and a lanturn with one =)

I just made the biggest >.> move ever. i had a chinchow with perfect ivs. rare candied it to be a lanturn. then i realized it had illuminate. >.> >.> >.> >.> >.> >.> >.>


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on November 10, 2009, 04:51:08 pm
w00t. I got my Arceus. =DDDD

It's modest, with 30 IVs in Speed. I didn't have time to try and get a good nature (or multiple Arceus, if that's possible), but I'll see what Smogon has to say about Modest Arceus.

I'm just happy to have my first event Pokemon.

EDIT: But I don't get why it had to be level 100. I can't EV train it D=


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 10, 2009, 04:52:51 pm
=O Whoa, that's good. I'm hoping to get a Modest Arceus myself, but that all depends on multiple factors... But if you don't delete any of the event moves, that's a really good nature. Since 3 out of the four moves are Special.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 10, 2009, 04:57:39 pm
i will get mine on saturday =D

i am bored. D:


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on November 10, 2009, 07:09:42 pm
I feel like forcing my parents into a trip to TRU. ::)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on November 10, 2009, 07:13:07 pm
Why? You have your action replay. ::) :P

Yeah, Arceus is epic epicness. I won't use him much, I'll be trading him into HG/SS as soon as I get it.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 10, 2009, 07:14:07 pm
that is partly why i want arceus =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on November 10, 2009, 07:38:28 pm
Why? You have your action replay. ::) :P
I wish to not hack Platinum. I have yet to do so. =P

(Although I would like Arceus to be at Lv80 for EV training... >_>)
(Which I could do via AR... <_<)
(But then people could tell it was haxored due to to the ub3rness of the ub3r... >_>)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 10, 2009, 07:46:24 pm
::)

i s bored. what should i train next...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on November 10, 2009, 08:01:07 pm
I feel like forcing my parents into a trip to TRU. ::)

Same here. Even if I'll die trying, since my parents won't let me, since they do not trust giveaway events... ;_;

@wagner - Your last post is considered spam you know...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on November 10, 2009, 08:08:08 pm
What do they have against giveaway events?

I guess I could use the EV-boosting Items, but that wouldn't give me exactly what I want...

BTW I gave Arceus a Ghost(?) Plate, and he is an EPIC WIN ghost-type. =D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on November 10, 2009, 08:24:50 pm
BTW I gave Arceus a Ghost(?) Plate, and he is an EPIC WIN ghost-type. =D
Except against Darkrai. ::) =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 10, 2009, 09:17:08 pm
i still need to catch darkrai >.>


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on November 11, 2009, 08:37:50 pm
Nin-jask...=P

I put up a Pokemon Breeding Topix. And I'm currently working on a Gallade,

I know Gallade has fail speed, but it can't hurt to have good IVs for it.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on November 11, 2009, 08:56:12 pm
Is it a a Fighting Type?

Graaaah I don't think I will be able to get the Mew wi-fi event. >__> Unless I use the wi-fi at mah friend's house...although he's lost internet access indefinately. Nothing he did, just something weeeeird...

If I can't get it, can someone grab me a spare Mew? Although I guess I can use MPR...but I won't really be able to build up the energy to do that unless they bring out the Platinum Upgrade.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on November 11, 2009, 10:12:08 pm
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Nope, not Ninjask. :)  Actually, Ninjask barely fits any of that description. >__>  Ninjask is only used for Baton Passing his Speed, and maybe a Swords Dance or two if you're lucky.  Lucario doesn't Baton Pass Swords Dances, he makes them on his own.  But that doesn't mean my new guy is using Swords Dance. ;) 

******* <-- There's the name.  Go ahead and figure it out.  But I won't answer anymore questions. ;) 

It's either Breloom or Machamp. Most likely Breloom, since Machamp has poor speed.

So, Breloom is my answer.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on November 12, 2009, 08:14:20 am
Yeah, I was leaning towards Breloom as well. But the thing is, we aren't 100% sure it's a fighting  type, although it probably is...

Man, Arceus is epic. =D I can't wait for HG/SS now...=DDD

EDIT: We may have already known this, but at the 2009 Pokemon World Chamionships, Nintendo said HG/SS would be coming between January and March. I read that on Wikipedia, but....=D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 12, 2009, 11:47:50 am
I read that on Wikipedia
Yeah, that sums up what I'm thinking right now. =P But, I actually don't doubt that that'll be when the release date is. Look at all the stuff they've done recently. Plus I can't wait to get the epicness that'll be HGSS in my hands, preferably with a new DS as well so I can transfer my team over without having to use Wi-Fi.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 12, 2009, 01:59:13 pm
Gyarados? Seriously? =P I thought sure all the abundant electric types put him out of his misery a while ago... ::) 'specially 'Vire.

And I'm almost ready... Err... What EVs does Machoke give again? >>;


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 12, 2009, 03:50:46 pm
i am ready. i have a ******* that is a monster. it can shut entire teams down if it can set up.

i think he has a... Kingler


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on November 12, 2009, 04:31:00 pm
I really need to get some power items for EV Training. >___>

I'm too lazy to gather the BP for them, although I could probably handle it if I tried...the thing is, I want to make a competitive team for the Battle Frontier...but I need EV boosting items to speed up that proccess because I'm too lazy to train them w/o the item. It's an endless cycle of indecision amplified by my own laziness. I'm between a rock and a hard place. D:


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 12, 2009, 04:43:41 pm
i have an extra if you can access wifi =) which do you need?

what are the thoughts of my kingler guess?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on November 12, 2009, 04:46:40 pm
I have no wifi. D: I would appreciate if you siggied my thing about the endless cycle though. xP

Meh, I don't think he would use Kingler for a competitive team.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 12, 2009, 05:01:44 pm
130 attack, 110 defence, 75 speed and the addition of agility into hg/ss it could be a threat. and it is the correct leters =)

no i only sig things that say how awesome i am =)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 12, 2009, 05:16:41 pm
and the addition of agility into hg/ss
HGSS things are banned from the competition. ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 12, 2009, 05:27:15 pm
i know >.>

tough i do think it is kingler.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on November 12, 2009, 05:34:38 pm
Quote
I'm now working on a Pokemon that will not only replace most of the good, functioning roles Lucario has served, but perhaps do them even better, all while also offering team support.  I'll leave this Pokemon secret for the time being, as I don't want to reveal everything about my team.  But I'll tell you this - even though I don't even have the species of Pokemon yet, it's going to be one heck of a doozy on the battlefield.  If only it had a little more Speed, it would be monsterous...
Lucario is a boosting sweeper.

From the information, we can tell that it is a boosting sweeper, a support Pokemon, and is a legendary Pokemon with seven letters.

This leaves Suicune and Jirachi.

Jirachi fits the description perfectly since it can support teammates as well as boost and sweep. It is even legendary and has seven letters! He also admits that he doesn't have certain legendaries, so...
watch him tear his hair out IF i get it right. if not, then it is most likely suicune.      


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 12, 2009, 05:41:45 pm
YES YES YES. I got and Event Arceus thanks to one of the members on BZP. =D

*Looks on Platinum site* xD The official site has an Arceus that's obtained by the player ID. Which can only happen if you catch it yourself. Which can only happen if you have the Azure Flute. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on November 12, 2009, 05:42:55 pm
*teh gasp* =O Man, if anyone can beat him at Pokemon, it's B~T. =P

I'm breeding for a Physical Sweeper Lucario, anyone reccomend a nature? I really wish that it was easier to get 31 IVs in each stat like in HG/SS, I want to get Lucario 31 in speed...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 12, 2009, 05:46:35 pm
Yeah, that breeding addition just makes it all the more anxious for me. *Goes to look up Machoke's IV output so I can actually continue training Gallade tonight* ... Don't ask. Rookie mistake. >_>


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on November 12, 2009, 09:43:53 pm
*teh gasp* =O Man, if anyone can beat him at Pokemon, it's B~T. =P
I got myself handed to Dudebot. If he can beat him, then he can pwn me. But the kind of team is also a factor on who is going to win.

Dudebot's team is a varied team, however he lacks secondary damage moves(Stealth Rock for example) as well as a way to get rid of entry hazards.

His team looks like an offensive team so far, but I think he is going to have support and Walls to mix the roles of his teammates.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 13, 2009, 09:48:07 am
Whoa. The new PokeWalker area revealed by the official Japanese site has...

Wild Torchic. =OOO


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on November 13, 2009, 09:56:31 am
o_________O WIN. WANT. NAO. NAAAAAAO. NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAO. =D

Sorry, had to let that one out. =P

But seriously, a wild Torchic? Win. I will say it now. HG/SS BEST POKEMON GAMES EVER HANDS DOWN.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 13, 2009, 10:01:04 am
On the PokeWalker, but yes, a wild Torchic. Which renders getting Torchic from Steven unneeded, so anyone who gets HGSS, get Mudkip or Treecko, and hope this app comes out everywhere. =P

/EDIT: ... I just got parafused... By a Pichu. >_>


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 13, 2009, 02:50:43 pm
that is great. no i do note think it is jirachi. i think it is kingler.

anyone want to battle?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on November 13, 2009, 03:00:36 pm
that is great. no i do note think it is jirachi. i think it is kingler.

anyone want to battle?

Not Kingler, since it overlaps with Gyarados for boosting sweeper. And it isn't viable for team support.

I neeeeed a good Beldum plzplzplz?? *whines at RNG*


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 13, 2009, 03:03:46 pm
... Wait, you know how to RNG, B~T?

*Is currently only around 10 battles away from getting my Chimchar finished*


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 13, 2009, 03:28:08 pm
no i won't battle. kingler doesn't need to be a boosting sweeper. meh

i want to test some pokemon. blade want to test whatever you have ready? please?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 13, 2009, 03:30:06 pm
I have nothing ready. And my Chimchar is still 10 or so battles off, since I can't find those Pichu when I need them xP And even then I need to get it to the Flamethrower level and then evolve it, so...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 13, 2009, 03:36:33 pm
yeah you are probably going to fail the tournament, no offence; your team is not ready.

do you have any pokemon with pokerus blade?

anyone want to battle? D:


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 13, 2009, 03:49:19 pm
1. I've almost got two; messing up Gallade's EVs set me back though.

2. Yeah, if I didn't, I would have given up a while ago.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 13, 2009, 04:14:07 pm
i will give your favorite pokemon if you give me any pokemon with pokerus =)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 13, 2009, 04:19:04 pm
What do you have?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 13, 2009, 07:32:06 pm
bibarel =D i will attach a focus sash, or whatever you want from the battle park =)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on November 13, 2009, 10:22:25 pm
... Wait, you know how to RNG, B~T?

*Is currently only around 10 battles away from getting my Chimchar finished*

No, I mean that the RNG determines the IVs of Pokemon, natures, and all that complicated stuff. On this case, I always do not what I need fast, so...  :P

BTW, I have a Beldum w/ 31 Attack IVs. If anyone wants it, be careful as it doesn't have good IVs in its other stats.  :P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on November 14, 2009, 04:21:39 pm
Grrr.

I was at TRU today. I was hoping to get a second Arceus on my Plat. Version. So I went to the 'Mart, got my Arceus (Was too lazy to actually get it last night), saved, and deleted the card. Then I tried to get another Arceus, being the greedy self I am. It didn't work.

...Now I'm stuck with a Calm Arceus. >_<


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 14, 2009, 04:23:05 pm
Whoops. =P That's why you go with two game cards, and not just the same one. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on November 14, 2009, 04:25:05 pm
That's what I was thinking after I got there. >_<


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 14, 2009, 04:27:42 pm
=P Even I would've known to bring Diamond and Platinum =P

*Is one Bidoof away from having perfect HP EVs*


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on November 14, 2009, 04:36:25 pm
That's what I was thinking after I got there. >_<

That's what you get for abusing Paraflinch.  :P

Anyways, I already have a team of six I realized.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 14, 2009, 04:51:18 pm
I'm only three more members away from actually finishing my team, and he hasn't technically even started the tourney yet. =P 'Least I'll have my two sweepers and my MixPert ready(... Hopefully) though. And I saved a TM by waiting to evolve Chimchar until it naturally learned Flamethrower =) And I also got Grass Knot and Vacuum Wave before evolving it as well. Now I just need to get the rest of Gallade's moves, and he'll be ready.(Agh Level 53 needed for Close Combat...) And Swampert... Well... He's getting there. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 14, 2009, 05:42:28 pm
i have a hasty arceus with 31 speed ivs =) i will bet money it is faster than anyone's that didn't cheat. i would also bet money it has higher hp then anyone that didn't cheat, 31 ivs again =) now i need to catch darkrai.

anyone willing to get a focus sash for a pokemon with pokerus?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 14, 2009, 05:47:01 pm
... Do you know how to RNG? >_>

Also, I need a Life Orb, and a Roost TM... =/


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 14, 2009, 05:58:27 pm
what is rng? i entered his ivs in and it had 31 speed and 31 hp. 28 attack, 2 defense, 23 spa, 23 spd.

i will give roost for a pokemon with pokerus.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 14, 2009, 06:01:11 pm
You must be extremely lucky if you got an Arceus with those type of IVs without using the RNG manipulation for it =O

I have a Pokerus Pokemon... You accept a Ralts? =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on November 14, 2009, 07:00:06 pm
WHAT IS RNG? Seriously, Blade...tell us! =P

Well, I got an Arceus with 30 Speed IVs. Not bad.

I thought about going there with my Diamond and getting a second one, but decided against it. I should have done it, I realise now. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 14, 2009, 07:06:06 pm
@ blade: what is rng? i saved in front of the guy and softset until i got a good one. ralts works =)

I HAZ A SHINY MODEST DARKRAI!!1!!11!!!!!111111!!!!!!1111!!11! though it has awful ivs =(


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 15, 2009, 02:19:03 pm
RNG is manipulating the Random Number Generator, but I have no clue how to do it.

Sweet on getting a Shiny Darkrai.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: korchi12 on November 15, 2009, 02:27:17 pm
How do you get a darkrai? Just by trading? If so how do you see one in your pokedex?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 15, 2009, 02:29:23 pm
Well, there was the Wi-Fi event like two or three months ago that gave you the Memebrship key so you could catch one, but now the only way is from Events or trading. And since I haven't heard of any Darkrai events... Trading. And by trading I don't mean the GTS.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: korchi12 on November 15, 2009, 02:36:24 pm
Well, there was the Wi-Fi event like two or three months ago that gave you the Memebrship key so you could catch one, but now the only way is from Events or trading. And since I haven't heard of any Darkrai events... Trading. And by trading I don't mean the GTS.

Oh ok. Thanks.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 15, 2009, 04:22:33 pm
i got it from the member card. >.>

has the tournament started?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 15, 2009, 04:23:45 pm
It should have, but I haven't seen any activity or him on...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 15, 2009, 04:28:51 pm
i should have known =(

i will create a uber team =. i have arceus and darkrai.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 15, 2009, 04:36:29 pm
I almost have my own level 100. My other two are both traded, and one started as Level 100, so... Anyway, my first level 100 will be Giratina. My others will probably be Dialga and Palkia, and then my new team. =)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on November 15, 2009, 08:29:45 pm
I'm working on getting a Silver Print at the Battle Arcade. I had been so interested in the Tower, Factory and Hall that I had basically ignored the Arcade. Now I'm trying it, and I got through my first 7 battles DEAD EASY. I should have tried this earlier. :P

I'm serious, I didn't even take damage in the first three battles, besides a little recoil from my Infernape's Flare Blitz. I should burn through the trainers with ease to get to Dahlia. And I'll use that BP to get some EV Training items ^_^

/EDIT: Huh, it censored my "with" up there. Guess some combo of those letters is profane. O_o

Anyway...I beat Dahlia. ^_^ Apparently I had a streak carried over from a looong time ago, so when I thought I had 13 wins, I had 20.

To be honest, it was fairly easy. Her Ludicolo took out my Infernape (it didn't help that the roulette made it rain >_>), but after that Salamence took out all three of her Pokemon.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on November 15, 2009, 11:14:06 pm
Which is why I've decided to use my Arceus for display. Other than HGSS, that is. ::)

Now then, if only they'd release the flute so I could get a good Arceus without going Haxor. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on November 16, 2009, 08:57:28 am
...? Is nintendo doing a Flute event for Arceus?

Well, I haz EV training item nao...for Attack.

/EDIT...oh BTW, working on a new edition to my Competitive team  take four. We usually overlook him for any use other than one, but on paper, he could be pretty rough on teams.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on November 17, 2009, 02:31:23 pm
On BZP, looks like Blade and DB aren't the only people who like Bibarel... XD

Quote from: Bundalings
yo dont be dissin' bidoof

No, seriously. Bibarel is not that bad. It's actually really good at wearing down walls, causing the enemy team chaos with its many disruptive moves, and Simple and Unaware are both interesting and unique abilities. ... If you don't want it I'll take it off your hands. :D

~Bunda



Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 17, 2009, 03:33:47 pm
Hey, you forgot to scratch out my name too. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 17, 2009, 04:36:13 pm
i like bibarel. D:


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on November 17, 2009, 05:51:44 pm
don't spam, wagner. ::)

So, I'm working on a Physical Sweeper Lucario...anyone think I should try for Crunch? Although I'm pretty sure that's a tough egg move to get...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 17, 2009, 05:55:49 pm
Sure, if you want to. I once tried for Iron Tail Pikachu without the TM, so, it's possible to multi chain egg moves, you just need a lot of time. =P

Also, on the HGSS mini-site on the official English site, there's some old images dubbed to English. =)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 17, 2009, 08:32:38 pm
it isn't spam, i liked bibarel and i wanted to be mentoined ddude.

anyone want to battle?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on November 18, 2009, 03:25:57 pm
I don't have wi-fi. Or a prepared team. Both will change upon the release of HG/SS.

Well, I played some of the Demo Version of Pokemon Rumble, and I'm sort of undecided. It seems fun at first, but it starts to get repetitive after a while. Granted, I only got to do the Free-for-all Mode once, but still...

Heh, I'm working on my OWN DDMence. This one will be vastly superior to his. His DDMence will be this DDMence's footstool. >=D

Anyone have a reccomended Nature?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 18, 2009, 03:27:56 pm
Probably Adamant or so...

I've finally finished EV training my team =D By the time I get on tomorrow, I should hopefully have finished off leveling up my team enough and getting all my moves.

... Oh yes, anyone know how to get Draco Meteor in Plat?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 18, 2009, 03:29:28 pm
move tutor in the fog route. tell me when you want to battle ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 18, 2009, 03:34:31 pm
Ooooh... That explains why I couldn't find it xP

I should be ready tomorrow. I just have to dual evolve both my 'Spyro' and my 'Avalar'(Cookie to whoever figures out which nickname goes to what Pokemon... You'll probably get Spyro easily, but Avalar doesn't really match the Pokemon. =P), and then I'll finally have my team ready, as I bet my 'Blade' will learn Close Combat in the process.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 18, 2009, 03:42:55 pm
salamence and swampert?

what is rng?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 18, 2009, 03:48:59 pm
Salamance is correct for Spyro, but it's not Swampert for Avalar. =P

I explained it a little while back... It's the Random Number Generator, but in Emerald and Platinum you can somewhat manipulate it, but I don't know how. </preventsfurtherquestions>


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 18, 2009, 03:51:22 pm
i will ask b~t.

 electivire?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 18, 2009, 03:55:48 pm
Wow, second try. Yeah, Electivire, which is why I said it didn't fit. Avalar is the name of a place in the Spyro series, not a creature. ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 18, 2009, 04:02:03 pm
were's mah cooky D=

i can access my ds. battle me and i will rate you team so far.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 18, 2009, 04:14:55 pm
*Hands cookie*

There's the whole problem of there being two members not evolved and not with all the moves and such. ::)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 18, 2009, 04:18:57 pm
i will give you leftovers. (munchlax tree+thief=leftovers)

please?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 18, 2009, 04:24:05 pm
I've got Leftovers over on FireRed. I'll battle you once my team can actually survive a fight.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 18, 2009, 04:26:17 pm
okay. tomorrow i think... i am going off. i will be back on at around 8.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on November 18, 2009, 04:47:14 pm
I have the Power items for Attack and HP.

I would try to get more by beating the Battle Factory, but Thorton has haxed me the two other times I challenged him. >_<

I guess I'll just keep trying, get some BP from there, and work on an EV-trained team...

BTW, Everstone makes a 50% chance of Nature getting passed down, right? *begins to plan my Scizor Take 2*


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 18, 2009, 04:49:15 pm
Yeah, but it doesn't always works. *Looks at the hundred or so Elekids I bred the other day, only one of them being Adamant* >_>


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on November 18, 2009, 05:02:23 pm
=P

I'm going to do a little Battle Factory work, and use this as a Battle Tower Team:

Scizor (Physical Sweeper)
Swampert (Bulky Water/Partial Special Sweeper)
Salamence (DDMence Physical Sweeper)

I know it lacks a "true" Speciall Sweeper, but it makes for a good matchup against Palmer...

Rhyperior<Swampert
Milotic<Swampert+Scizor
Dragonite<Salamence


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on November 18, 2009, 05:03:22 pm
Just get a team that kicks butt at a facility and keep going at it even if you keep dying after the Brain. =P

Always works for me. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 18, 2009, 05:04:07 pm
want to battle db?

scratch what i said earlier. i will be off at 8 >.>


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 19, 2009, 05:35:38 pm
Okay, three things.

One, anyone notice that they added two moves to the Legendary Dragons' movesets instead of just the ones they advertised?(Dialga and Palkia both have Power Gem, and Giratina has Destiny Bond, both of those moves not being in D/P/Pt.)

Two, anyone else notice that those so-called 'exclusive' moves to the special Legend Dragons aren't exactly exclusive to them? They can learn them through level up apparently.

Three, though this may be correspondent to the Dragons being at level one when you first get whichever one you get, the Legend Dragons' moves are all reduced in level or otherwise re-arranged in HGSS.(And the somewhat horrid move 'Heal Block' is gone. Works good on certain Pokemon, but is just a waste of a moveset slot if you're not facing Blissey and the usual suspects. =P)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 19, 2009, 06:50:22 pm
heal block is s***. really

though blade i want to battle asap D=


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on November 19, 2009, 08:24:53 pm
HAXED AGAIN. >____<

I got haxed for the third time against Thorton.

Thornton sends out Meganium. Go, Monferno!
Monferno uses Flame Wheel. Meganium is in yellow zone.
Meganium uses (attack I can't remember). Monferno is in lower Green Zone.
Monferno uses Flame Wheel. Meganium in Red Zone.
Meganium uses Synthesis three times in a row, with me using Flame Wheel in response each time and getting Meganium back in Red.
Meganium uses Sunny Day. Finally.
Monferno uses Flame Wheel. Meganium Fainted. Thornton sends out Amphorous.
Me: Alright, I can do th-
Amphorous uses Power Gem. Monferno Fainted.
Me: >__> *sends out Cacturn*
Amphorous uses Power Gem.
ME: PLEASE DON'T BE BUG TYPE PLEASE DON'T BE BUG TYPE PLEASE DON'T BE BUG TYPE. (I'm not very familiar with Power Gem)
Cacturn is still in Green Zone.
Me: *major sigh of relief*
Cacturn uses Faint Attack. Cacturn is effected by Static. Cacturn is parlyzed.
Me: First sign of haxing.
Amphorous uses Power Gem.
Cacturn uses Faint Attack again. Amphorous hangs on by a micropscopic sliver of HP.
Me: Second sign of haxing. -_-
Amphorous uses Power Gem. Cacturn is in Red Zone.
Cacturn uses Faint Attack. Amphourous faints. Thorton sends out Glaceon.
Glaceon uses Ice Beam. Cacturn faints.
Me: Didn't see that coming. ::) *sends out kingdra*
Kingdra uses Dragon Pulse twice while Glaceon uses Double Team, getting Glaceon into red zone.
Me: FINALLY. I can beat Thor-
Glaceon uses Ice Beam. A critical hit. Kingdra faints.
Me: WHAT THE *bleep*?! THAT IS THE BIGGEST *bleep*in' load of *bleep* I've ever seen. CURSE YOU GAME DESIGNERS!! *puts hand in face*

Seriously, that was the most ridiculous hax EVA. Glaceon was in the RED ZONE, Kingdra was at full HP, and Glaceon got a CRITICAL HIT. This is even worse than being outsped by Leafeon.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on November 19, 2009, 09:04:52 pm
Niiiiiice. XD

Uhgh...  Hate when that happens...

I never did anything on my Platinum other than watch Blade's Fail Battle Videos and complete the Regional Pokedex.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on November 19, 2009, 09:21:10 pm
...Why? Platinum is so much better than Diamond and Pearl...

I hate getting haxed. Especially at the Battle Factory. Which happens FAAAAR too often to me. :P

I wonder what he will have to say about this great injustice I have suffered...probably "Suck it up you big wuss. :P It happens to all of us." xP


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on November 20, 2009, 08:20:45 am
I'm just ticked this is the third time Thorton has haxed me. And I was so close to. I didn't think it was possible, but this game is being cruel to me. WHAT ARE THE CHANCES OF GETTING A CRITICAL HIT ON YOUR FIRST ATTACK!? *weeps* xP

BTW, if anyone wants a quick way to make money in Plat, just take your Arceus through the E4 with an Amulet Coin. You might want  to bring a few other strong Pokemon, but still...

I did that in Emerald with Rayquaza and it worked REAAALLY well. I had max money through that method. :P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 20, 2009, 08:52:14 am
That's a good idea. However, you lose typing for your Arceus, so you'll have to rely on it's other moves than Judgment. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 20, 2009, 05:27:11 pm
anyone want to battle?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 21, 2009, 11:44:40 am
I'm battling Wagner now(Not sure if it's for the tourney yet or not), and he just gave me a free turn to Swords Dance. xP

/EDIT: ... ASDF. I forgot Outrage is a locked into move. >_>

//EDIT: Yet it still fainted Wagner's Pokemon. =P

///EDIT: I find this fight really funny. Especially the circumstances. And the fact that my Infernape still didn't faint even though the Life orb recoil almost took it to 0.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 21, 2009, 12:09:59 pm
i got pwnd. D=


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 21, 2009, 12:15:57 pm
Utterly pwned. You may actually have some competition now B~T; my team did waaaaaaaaaay better than I expected, and Waaaaaaay better than the last time I fought Wagner. =P

Uploading Vid ID soon... =P

/EDIT: Also, I only used three out of my 6 Pokemon, and it's entirely possible that I couldn't just stuck with Salamance, as long as it's confusion didn't kill it. =P

Battle Vid ID: 95-10978-30345


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on November 21, 2009, 05:58:07 pm
*EPICGULP*

O_O   o_o   O_o   o_O

So much for underestimating you in Pokemon the whole time... *passes out*

Why do I feel like my team needs reform? I'm serious...

Somebody comfort me. -_-


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 21, 2009, 06:00:37 pm
Did I mention only one of my Pokemon got fainted? =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on November 21, 2009, 06:33:32 pm
1). I spammed on my last post.

2). GRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH.

*hides in corner of room*




Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 21, 2009, 06:34:44 pm
Actually, you were talking about underestimating me in this, so... =P

And there's still a chance, but it's very small. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on November 21, 2009, 06:39:51 pm
I keep gettin' haxed at the Battle Factory. -_- It's hard to win your first seven matches. you get pathetic pokemon. One time there was a Bidoof available as one of the starters to rent. xD

And the last out of the seven always has Pokemon like the ones you face in battles 8-14. So you have to overcome all odds and defeat the second evolution Pokemon like Sandslash and Cacturne some guy's throwing out at you with Togepi and Bidoof and Torchic and the like. :P

@B~T's joke about prayer-Hey, can you not post that kinda stuff, dude? I'm Christian, and saying that is sort of misusing prayer. =/

I am still working on Competitive team V. ....um...I lost track of what V it is. :P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on November 21, 2009, 07:38:47 pm
I actually did better than I expected in the battle with Blade. I lost. 4 down (him) vs 6 down (me).

I'm starting to be the new Blade... >____>

Losing to Dudebot,

Losing to him...

O_O I see a trend here...

Just curious, can you replace Pokemon in your team for another?

EDIT: Sorry ddude about the "religious joke". I never meant to hurt anyone's feelings. I edited it out for you...   


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on November 21, 2009, 09:10:12 pm
It didn't really hurt my feelings, it just sort of seemed like it was mocking prayer. Not really something that thrills me. =P I'd explain why, but it's a long story...

Still, thanks for editing it. =)

Anyway...

So, B~T, um....do you mind losing to me now? =P I just need to run down to Caribou or somewhere with public wi-fi. =P

So...anyone getting Pokemon Rumble? (although I guess you'd need a wii first =P) The demo didn't impress me that much.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on November 21, 2009, 09:29:37 pm
It didn't really hurt my feelings, it just sort of seemed like it was mocking prayer. Not really something that thrills me. =P I'd explain why, but it's a long story...

Still, thanks for editing it. =)

Anyway...

So, B~T, um....do you mind losing to me now? =P I just need to run down to Caribou or somewhere with public wi-fi. =P

So...anyone getting Pokemon Rumble? (although I guess you'd need a wii first =P) The demo didn't impress me that much.

I don't mind losing to ya. Especially since I have Blade's former reputation as a Pokemon trainer now.  :)
If you want to battle Blade, he's WAAAAAY tougher than before.
I'm losing my dignity... ;_;

Also, I am training a Pokemon that is a boosting sweeper. It is weak to Stealth Rock, and it has considerable defenses. The Pokemon is ********. Guess.  ;D

Just give me your FC in PM if you want a battle.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on November 21, 2009, 09:47:03 pm
Um...I don't really know. :P

I don't know my FC. I've never gone on wi-fi with my DS. Darned WPA Computer Security >__<

Anyway...you could probably beat meh. I'm not that good. I plan stuff, I make sure I haven't overlooked everything, I make sure every little detail is right...and then I never get around to it. >__> If is wasn't so lazy, I would probably be the greatest Pokemon player alive. :P I guess there has to be a way to keep things in balance.

...that, and I keep getting Battle Factory haxed. >___< If I could just get some BP...

I do have the EV-training items for Attack, Speed and HP tho. That would at least speed up the process if I ever got to it. :P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on November 21, 2009, 10:33:39 pm
Going into the tournament, I feel somewhat secure. B~T's lost to Blade, so I'm not sure what to say. I'm still basing Blade off his former team, since I have no idea what he's packing and I'm too lazy to look it up. =P

Meaning my main competition should be... Him. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 22, 2009, 08:26:00 am
i want to rematch blade again...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on November 22, 2009, 10:19:45 am
@DB - I'm warning ya. He is definitely no pushover this time.

I'm working on a Pokemon article on my opinion on the most psyched Pokemon in MLNO as of this point.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 22, 2009, 03:13:49 pm
Dudebot: Bring it on. =) And you may wanna heed B~T's warnings. >=D


Wagner: Oh, you'll get your rematch eventually. Probably when I get back.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on November 22, 2009, 03:22:10 pm
I'll be entering battle with Blade at a complete disadvantage. He knows my team, but I have no idea what he has - by choice. Therefore, this should be fun. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 22, 2009, 03:27:05 pm
Oh, this will be fun. *Gets ready to add another win to my record* =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on November 22, 2009, 03:56:00 pm
*Chalks up another win for Dudebot*


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 22, 2009, 03:59:08 pm
It was uber close though.

... Ah, that reminds me, I've gotta attach my Life Orb; I forgot to attach it, which was one of the reasons Infernape didn't get even to the Red when I used Flamethrower. >>


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on November 22, 2009, 04:01:48 pm
Although that woulda put it down to 3/4 health, insuring my victory there. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 22, 2009, 04:04:37 pm
Which is also why I should've used Vacuum Wave instead of Flamethrower. =P That was so very close though. *Is waiting for rematch*


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on November 22, 2009, 04:06:38 pm
Sadly, I need to head elsewhere soon. Perhaps later. =D

(Let it be noted that I somehow beat Blade while taking him half-seriously. Barely. He was tough.)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 22, 2009, 04:12:15 pm
D= Dang. *Wonders if B~T would be up to facing me again* =P

And yeah, I think that one was just you getting lucky there. But as he himself admits, I'm not the same Blade I was. See, I told you I was like Magikarp. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on November 22, 2009, 04:14:22 pm
See, I told you I was like Magikarp. =P

Hey, that's my role now!  >:(    :P

Speaking of Magikarp, I'm training one now...

It has AMAZING IVs...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 22, 2009, 04:17:16 pm
=P Rematch B~T? You may just get your old role back. xP


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on November 22, 2009, 04:27:22 pm
I want to redo a Pokemon's EV Training first...

And once I get my DS, which should be soon...

AND I WANT TO BE BLADES FORMER ROLE PLZPLZPLZ =DDDDDDDD


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 22, 2009, 04:32:03 pm
Maybe before 8 tonight? =P

*Is currently waiting on a response from him*


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on November 22, 2009, 04:34:45 pm
Beware Gyarados and Electivire!

Maybe Lucario and his Mystery Pokemon too.  :P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 22, 2009, 04:37:27 pm
If I can successfully take out Electivire before switching to Togekiss, then I've got a chance. And I'm sure I can find something that's not electric to take out Gyarados. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on November 22, 2009, 04:41:24 pm
BTW I drew some Pokemon that were particularly popular in the MLNO Metagame. They actually turned out nice. (Gallade is an exception  :P)

Once I scan and upload them, I'll add them to an article I'm working on.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 22, 2009, 04:45:05 pm
Of course Gallade was the exception. ::)

Also, I now have another move type on my team, instead of Draco Meteor.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 23, 2009, 02:34:11 pm
ready to rematch blade?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 23, 2009, 02:35:20 pm
Tomorrow, 'k? Then I can actually multi-task better because I won't be using a laptop to surf.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 23, 2009, 02:37:12 pm
you said tomorrow yesterday >.>

fine D=


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 23, 2009, 02:41:20 pm
I said tomorrow two days ago, and you never got on. >_>


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 23, 2009, 02:42:31 pm
oh sorry. >.>


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 23, 2009, 02:44:22 pm
Meh, I had a bad day yesterday anyway(... Note to self; Never lead with Infernape again. >_>)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on November 23, 2009, 03:02:15 pm
It was a good Sunday for me!!! =D

I like how Stone Edge from Dudebot's Torterra missed two times consecutively, and my Dragonite proceeded to destroy 4 out of 6 of Dudebot's Pokemon. And I actually got lucky with Confusion =D. It's one of those instances where my RNG acutally goes my way... >_>

@Blade- Try starting out with your Swampert as a lead. It is very rare for a lead to have a Grass Move, and his bulkiness can help survive at least two hits to set up.   


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 23, 2009, 03:03:55 pm
... Funny, my lead had a Grass move yesterday, and it didn't help. xP

Might be an idea though. If so, then I'll actually rearrange my team so that their markings actually match up to their order. xP


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on November 23, 2009, 03:05:35 pm
When I say Swampert as a lead, I meant that the opposing team generally has no Grass Moves in their roster.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 23, 2009, 03:07:09 pm
Unless they're using my type of Infernape. =P ... Or is Dudebot. >_>


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on November 23, 2009, 05:17:22 pm
Heh heh heh... =P

I hate Stone Edge. Did I tell you guys that? =D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on November 23, 2009, 06:52:07 pm
want to battle anyone?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 26, 2009, 05:57:19 pm
So. I now have 462 Pokemon seen in my National Dex, and 450 owned. If someone could help me with obtaining a Magmortar(For Living Dex), and can also help by trade evoing three of my Pokemon, it would be appreciated =)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on November 27, 2009, 08:04:47 pm
Hm...well, if you bred it it can't be Jirachi. =/

Speed, huh...Tropius? :P

Can I know what it is? =D Since I'm not in the tournament...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on November 27, 2009, 08:29:43 pm
Quote
Heh heh heh... =P

I hate Stone Edge. Did I tell you guys that? =D
Then you'll hate my team.  At least two of my guys will have Stone Edge. :P
I meant when I use it. It never hits. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on November 27, 2009, 10:09:38 pm
Maybe you should fear my mystery Pokemon that has 3 PERFECT IVS in HP, Attack, and Speed.

It's already EV Trained.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 28, 2009, 10:34:20 am
I replaced a move on one of my Pokemon. And this time I won't be leading with Infernape. >_>


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on November 28, 2009, 04:05:55 pm
I'm planning to trade my EV-Trained Pokemon onto Platinum, with the help of others...



Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 28, 2009, 04:09:49 pm
... Seriously? That's seriously what it is? =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on November 28, 2009, 04:31:53 pm
... What do you mean?

And I'm planning to breed a replacement for one of my other Pokemon...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 28, 2009, 04:33:46 pm
That isn't something I'd really go for. ::)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on November 28, 2009, 04:36:48 pm
Don't tell me that I need to suffer the wrath of him... -_____- *turns into the new tim O_o*
hmmm... Blade's being suspicious... This will cheer him up! =D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKOb-kRagco (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKOb-kRagco)



Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 28, 2009, 04:44:53 pm
That one wasn't as epic as others. =P And besides, I know it now that he gave it away. ::)

Anyone else slightly disappointed that despite Mach Punch being learned by Ledian(Or so...) that Scizor can't get it as an Egg move? -_-


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 28, 2009, 05:55:50 pm
If you're referring to the first part, then B~T overreacting essentially gave it away, I think. =P

And if it's the second, you can't get Mach Punch onto a Scizor legally, even though someone it can breed with has it. Which doesn't make much sense considering how Scizor's essentially the Pokemon that priority moves seem to be made for. ::)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on November 28, 2009, 05:59:21 pm
@Blade- Just because I edit it doesn't mean I'm necessarily going to use it... ::)

And in HG/SS, I cannot wait for the Soul Dew event, even if I don't have HG/SS. probably cuz I'm most likely going to use one in my team. Doesn't mean I will though.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 28, 2009, 06:21:10 pm
You know it's already out for the Japanese games, right? =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on November 28, 2009, 07:12:38 pm
Yea...

And I somehow like the Latis...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 28, 2009, 07:20:12 pm
Who doesn't? *Can't wait to get my Latias from Sapphire* A few years late of course, since I wanted to do that like back when D/P were new, but I'm actually making progress =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on November 28, 2009, 07:33:41 pm
Yea, I bought my Emerald in 2007 O_o

Soooo delayed...

And I'm going to SR for a good Latias in Emerald.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 28, 2009, 07:40:59 pm
I've had my Sapphire since '04 or so. It was me resetting it even though I knew of the Transfer thing that was the problem. ><


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on November 29, 2009, 08:53:35 am
was it an accident or...? Maybe I'll play throgh my Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald, Firered and Leafgreen later.  ;D

...Pokemon Rumble seems interesting. A bit repetitive tho. Nintendo Power said it was pretty good, but it just seems...lacking.



Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 29, 2009, 11:34:14 am
I only need Ruby and LeafGreen, and given the fact that practically no stores have new ones... D=


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on November 29, 2009, 11:28:34 pm
And we all know that Ash and co. are going back to Johto because of Battle Frontier 2.0, right? Thus allowing movie 13 to make sense timeline wise, right? =D

But of course, you all knew that. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 30, 2009, 07:53:51 pm
Hey. Guys. Is this what I think it is? =O (http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/hgss/news/17.html)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on November 30, 2009, 08:06:06 pm
*Coughs* *Uses epic translation powers*

Top:
Pokeuoka protect us from scratch a "dedicated silicon cover Pokeuoka" I was released!
Gale and two types of Houou, also carry very useful if only Karl Dewey Decimal code! LCD protective film to protect LCD screen from minor scratches, but it is sticky, I'll peel curable paste!

Yellow Box:
Product
Product Name: Silicon cover only Pokeuoka (the two species Gale Houou)
Price: ¥ 892 each (approx.)
Description: Silicon cover, protecting film, curl cord with hooks
Sale / Sale: Media Factory, Inc.


Go figure. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 30, 2009, 08:09:07 pm
Huh. It is a PokeWalker cover. Dang. And here I thought it was a standalone 'Walker. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on December 05, 2009, 03:56:49 pm
*revives topic*

Currently, I'm training a new Pokemon that will replace a role of one Pokemon...

It is *********. 

Other modifications to my Wi-Fi team will be made in the future.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on December 05, 2009, 03:58:14 pm
My ******* will be awesome. I just hope I can get it right... *Still wishes it had a certain move, but oh well*


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on December 05, 2009, 04:04:08 pm
******* = Bibarel

Lemme guess, Gliscor.

I'm typing a new Pokemon review for y'allz to enjoy.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on December 05, 2009, 10:15:35 pm
Not Bibarel for sure, but I'll let you guess.

Hint; It's speed isn't the best.

Also, I'm starting to wonder if they wanted to keep the release date for HGSS in secret, which is why they said Spring. Because things are just pointing to it releasing in February or so. Take the TCG for example. The first LEGENDs English set(Which just happens to be named HeartGold & SoulSilver here) is releasing on the 10th of February. It didn't release that long from HGSS in Japan. So, I think it'll be the same here.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on December 05, 2009, 10:31:44 pm
Another hint is that my mystery Pokemon is going to have 1 or 0 Special Attack IVs... ._.;

Which is a minor-ish issue.

EDIT: IT HAS 0 SPECIAL ATTACK IVs. GREAT JOB RNG. >____________> <________< >______<


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on December 06, 2009, 09:42:56 am
Heh.

Another hint is that it saw boosted usage lately.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on December 06, 2009, 09:49:40 am
i made a review. bt, what is rng and how do you do it?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on December 06, 2009, 09:51:07 am
He doesn't use RNG manipulation. And none of us here know how to do it, so... >_>


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on December 06, 2009, 12:11:59 pm
Blade's using a Scizor. =O


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on December 06, 2009, 12:13:47 pm
*Freezes for a second* ... What makes you say that? *Nervous laugh*

Also, what's that thing? I never saw any Thank You Mails...

/EDIT: oh i c. xDD


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on December 06, 2009, 12:19:49 pm
Blade made a typo... ;_;

It was 6 letters, but he made it seven. Bad Badleman! >:(

Any ideas for my next review?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on December 06, 2009, 12:22:40 pm
........ I did that on purpose. =P It was a case of, 'don't rely on the number of asterisks.' =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on December 06, 2009, 12:27:18 pm
*Freezes for a second* ... What makes you say that? *Nervous laugh*
Slow speed + boosted usage = Scizor.

I didn't even bother to count asterisks. ^_^


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on December 06, 2009, 12:29:04 pm
;_; I knew I shouldn't have given that second hint... =P

Would it be a suitable replacement for Electivire?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on December 06, 2009, 12:30:25 pm
No, for Electivire is ub3rgodlyness =O

Possibly. Depends on the rest of your team.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on December 06, 2009, 12:32:08 pm
You've already seen the rest of my team, so... =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on December 06, 2009, 12:33:48 pm
Team:

Gallade
Electivire Scizor
Swampert
Infernape
Salamence
Togekiss

Looks like an acceptable replacement.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on December 06, 2009, 12:35:49 pm
I just wish it could use Mach Punch... Then it'd be epic. =P Especially if it had a bug typed priority move.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on December 06, 2009, 12:39:20 pm
If you think Scizor can learn all priority, then it should be learning Aqua Jet now. Which is clearly wrong.

And ********** and ********** are going to replace two members of my team...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on December 06, 2009, 12:43:38 pm
No, I'm saying that Mach Punch is a level move of one of the Pokemon in his Egg Group, and he doesn't have it as an egg move. Which is just weird. And he's lacking a Bug type priority move... In fact, I don't think there's one at all 0_o


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on December 06, 2009, 12:47:31 pm
No, there isn't. Heck, before D/P/P, there were almost no priority moves. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on December 06, 2009, 12:50:58 pm
True... And that's the whole problem. =P

Check your PMD mail soon. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on December 06, 2009, 12:51:55 pm
The only priority moves I can think of in the third Gen are Mach Punch, Quick Attack, and ExtremeSpeed.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on December 06, 2009, 12:56:24 pm
@G~G: Exactly. Now we have Bullet Punch, Aqua Jet, Vaccum Wave...

@G-N: Check your Mail then. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on December 06, 2009, 12:57:58 pm
That'd better not be another Rescue mail already... =P

Thanks. =P Also, I meant to put 'Failtastic' =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on December 06, 2009, 04:39:53 pm
i think i found a nasty plot sweeper in ****** . :)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on December 07, 2009, 12:02:00 am
Lookie what I found. =O

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njYB2meovaw&feature=related

Ahh, the memories. ^_^


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on December 07, 2009, 09:23:19 pm
Just like how you took nuuuuuuuu from Tim. ::) :P

And I used to use a Scizor in Wi-Fi. It unfortunately did not make it on my team, since his type coverage is low, and many Pokemon pack a Fire move, making switching in a pain. It is not a bad Pokemon, it just doesn't fit on my team well.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on December 11, 2009, 05:49:34 pm
This topic's almost dead... D=

Even if Superpower keeps Heatran at bay, I think Heatran has the defenses to live it, and outspeed and use a Fire Move.

Argh... *is thinking of a good Special Sweeper**has an idea**most likely executes it*


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on December 11, 2009, 06:02:39 pm
Anyone here about the new movie stuff? Sounds intriguing to me...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on December 11, 2009, 10:09:27 pm
It's kinda interesting.

PMD:EoD update - Paklia is hard without Reviver Seeds... Dx


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on December 12, 2009, 09:28:30 am
Also, I have proudness!

A very possible HGSS release date(With what seems to be the correct box and all) is set for March 14th. With everything that's been revealed recently, I wouldn't doubt at all that it's correct. Plus it's following the pattern of being before Platinum's US date(Though a year later), which follows the Japanese HGSS being before the Japanese date of Plat(Again, although a year later).


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on December 12, 2009, 10:21:50 am
I HAVE JOY!! ;D

Woo! March 14! *dances* This is the awesomest awesomeness since Fawful! The game is probably almost being ready to be released, and it will be the awesomest Pokemon game eva! Fawful has pleasedness!! ;D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on December 14, 2009, 12:00:33 pm
There's just one thing about your plot guess... The fact that there's a shadow Ash from the looks of it. And what the 'Ruler of Z' means.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on December 15, 2009, 04:15:21 pm
I interrupt this conversation for this important image.

(http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/epic-fail-calculus-fail.jpg)

You may now continue with your daily lives.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on December 15, 2009, 04:21:25 pm
x. D.

Nice one. What I find funny is that that guy didn't know it was 'hydro cannon'. =P

Wait. Hang on a sec. Is that who i think it in in the red? xD


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on December 15, 2009, 05:22:25 pm
I'm not sure who you're referencing, but the red was a Teacher's comments. xD


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on December 15, 2009, 05:40:38 pm
That's what I had meant. I was thinking that the red was of the teacher. xP


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on December 19, 2009, 08:32:11 pm
*sighs*
*revives topic*

*continues to contemplate on what Pokemon he should train next*


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on December 20, 2009, 09:07:08 am
I finally got good enough at the Factory (Overnight, apparently 0_o) to face Thorton. And get pwn3d.

I took a video, but I haven't uploaded it yet. I'll do so when I get home.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on December 22, 2009, 01:24:19 pm
=P Well, as long as you're better than you were when you fought the Battle Factory with me. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on December 22, 2009, 03:14:25 pm
The fact that I got that far speaks a lot. =P

Speaking of facts.

(http://www.majhost.com/gallery/Dudebot5000/Anime/pokemon/sovietmudkipz.jpg)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on December 22, 2009, 03:54:13 pm
xD Nice.

The Battle Factory should be called the HAX Factory. I've been Haxed SO MANY TIMES there. SO. MUCH. HAAAAAAXIIIIING. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on December 22, 2009, 03:56:49 pm
I found out recently that haxing in Pokemon isn't as bad in other games. *Looks at the two games I'm playing now(Which are essentially the same core engine with different features and such in them), and the fact that I lost against a few opponents simply because I got haxed in the luck department*

Not much to talk about here though until the PCP event date is revealed...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on December 24, 2009, 03:00:32 pm
Code:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_37YH_FojE

Epic Bibarel sweep. XD

Blade and DB should be very happy... ::) :P

EDIT: I didn't want to link directly, as there was one part of the video which I did not like. SO watch at your own risk, it's not a cuss word, but it is a bit inappropriate. 


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on December 24, 2009, 09:43:33 pm
Epic hax0r. =O

Oh yeah. Forgot.

GGGGGGGGGGGGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on December 27, 2009, 09:03:37 pm
I'm starting to question how active this topic is... >_>"

I bet once Heart Gold/SoulSilver comes out, then there will be more activity here...

Speaking of which, what will be your teams in HG/SS, if you get it?

Mine's will be:

~ Typhlosion
~ Lanturn/Lapras/Tentacruel
~ Victreebel/Exeggutor/Tangrowth
~ Hitmonlee/Hitmontop
~ Forretress/Skarmory
~ Mamoswine (if Lapras not chosen)/Heracross



Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on December 27, 2009, 09:18:03 pm
It's active if we have something to do. =P

Not exactly sure what my team will be. I'll have to think about it.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on December 28, 2009, 10:50:43 am
i pre-ordered both version's on amazon.

according to bulbapedia the date of release is march 14th. according to gamestop it is in the first week of april >.>


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on December 28, 2009, 12:31:14 pm
... March the 14th has already been confirmed. As I said, don't rely on GameStop for the release dates, especially if it hasn't been confirmed. There is something called 'placeholder dates' after all. ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on December 28, 2009, 12:44:11 pm
Oh yeah. Proves we were right about March and April. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on December 28, 2009, 12:48:37 pm
Yep. What can we talk about now though?

And I'll get to your rescue as soon as I get the game I'm playing now out of my DS. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on December 28, 2009, 09:16:56 pm
did you pre-order hg/ss yet?

also can you get a surf pikachu by breeding?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on December 29, 2009, 09:47:22 am
Wagner: I don't pre-order games. And it'll likely possibly be the preorder thing that Japan had out.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on January 03, 2010, 11:23:04 am
Actually, I've gotten Chimchars that are hatched with Rock Climb before... =/

I wonder if I should bother to stop playing Bowser's Inside Story for a bit and play EotS. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on January 03, 2010, 11:24:13 am
At least you have a better case than Blade's Totodiles with Cut... ^_^ =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on January 03, 2010, 11:25:17 am
;_; Hey, they had Waterfall too, so... =P

And yeah, you should. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on January 03, 2010, 12:15:42 pm
This is funny.

In EoD, I was a Munchlax, and my partner was a Chimchar.

In EoS, I am a Chimchar, and my partner is an Eevee. xD


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on January 03, 2010, 12:17:59 pm
xD Change the hero starter and you'll have my starting team. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on January 03, 2010, 12:25:28 pm
For which one? =P

Also, this demands a look.
http://www.bzpower.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=316994


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on January 03, 2010, 12:27:19 pm
EotS, when I get it. =P EoT's Pikachu as the Hero and Chikorita as the partner.

Also, I'm very very tempted to name name my Riolu 'The Doctor' if it fits when I get EoS. =P

... *Eyetwitches at BlissLax* Those are pretty good though. =)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on January 03, 2010, 02:30:08 pm
Yep, those are good sprites. Can't wait until Nintedno calls him out for copyright infringment and uses those sprites in Pokemon Extrusive/Rock versions. =P

*sigh* This place'll be so quiet without him. I already miss him...his massive text walls that make my head asplode...his massive knowledge of Pokemon that makes my head asplode...those bombs he carries around that make my head asplode...=P I MISS HIM!! *cries* Oh wait, he hasn't left yet. =P

But wait...who's going to do the tournaments if he leaves? O_O

Anyway....hey, HG/SS are only a few months away now. =D Now I can finally get mah wi-fi. And battle you guys. =D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on January 03, 2010, 03:58:12 pm
Quote from: GTalk
me: hey DB
 
dudebot5000: straw BT

me: im typing with my DS in one hand

dudebot5000: nice

me: You know, I am tired of people going offline after I send PMs...
 
stares at him
 
dudebot5000: Lol

me: I am currently... breeding... a support Pokemon...
 
I want to give him his order from my Trade Shop...
 
dudebot5000: And... He's not here to grab it
 
me: ... unfortunately...

GRRAAAAAAAAAAHH
 
dudebot5000: That's my line D=
 
me: So is Blade's.. =)
 
Any more words, you GRAHjesty?

dudebot5000: Not really

me: I named a ******** "Timmehdex". Don't know why.
 
dudebot5000: Lol
 
me: And an ##### "SHE" after Jade.
 
I put them in a [DayCare] Center, and they are a legit combo for an egg...

dudebot5000: You put together Tim and Jade? 0_o
 
me: Oh god, I'm not making anything suggestive here, am I? >____>"
 
dudebot5000: Just kinda 0_oo

me: Hey, I spent 3-4 days getting an ##### with 31 Defense IVs... CUt me some slack... -_-
 
dudebot5000: Lol fine
 
me: Same with a ******** with 31 IVs in Sp Attack

And guess what?
 
THEY ARE TIMMEHDEX AND SHE RESPECITVELY
 
At least the man says "They don't seem to like each other...."
 
dudebot5000: So Jade's a ******** now? 0_o
 
Lol

me: No... Jade's the #####, and Tim is a ********.
 
dudebot5000: Then you contradicted yourself =P
 
me: Yes, I meant to reverse Jade and Tim. -_-

dudebot5000: That makes more sense =P
 
me: At least the man outside the Day Care says that they don't like each other
 
=P
 
dudebot5000: That's good =P

me: I want to type something, but I found out how awkward it is.

Ya wanna know what it is... It is VERY awkward...
 
dudebot5000: Eh, go ahead
 
me: My ##### just laid an Egg... O__o
 
X_X
 
dudebot5000: xD

me: Don't even try substituing "#####" with a female member in MLNO... >__> X_X

dudebot5000: Lol fine =P

me: My ##### is $$$$ and Tim is @@@@@@. Tim is FAR from @@@@@@ and Jade is FAR brom @@@@. Maybe switch the two around, but I can't for breeding reasons.
 
dudebot5000: That statement... Is so true. Lol

me: Try and guess my next Pokemon based on the information.
 
FULLY EVOLVED.

dudebot5000: $$$$ indicates a rise in %%%
 
me: And is more &&&&&&.
 
dudebot5000: And its a staller?
 
I believe you said?
 
No, you said support
 
me: I named the ##### after you. ^_^
 
dudebot5000: Oh?
 
=P
 
And the name is? =P

me: DUDEBOT.
 
dudebot5000: Nice =P
 
Although I'm no good at being a support [[[[[[[]]]]]]]. =P
 
me: Nice job. ALthough it was pretty obvious.

bye

We had... an interesting conversation about two members of MLNO who represent two Pokemon in a Day Care... ^_^"

I omitted Pokemon names and natures, so you won't find out a member of my team. Only Dudebot knows, and THAT's THAT.

AND DUDEBOT, DON'T YOU DARE TELL.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on January 03, 2010, 04:07:22 pm
xDxDxD I think you'd better hope those certain members doesn't somehow find this. =P

*Also goes to ask Dudebot* =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: mtmerrick on January 04, 2010, 03:00:22 pm
some of you have earned yourself a beating. you better knock it off, or you can always choose the option of a painful death.

EDIT: Do not threaten anyone at this forum, especially at a moderator!!!!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: timposter on January 04, 2010, 03:39:24 pm
Quote from: GTalk
me: hey DB
 
dudebot5000: straw BT

me: im typing with my DS in one hand

dudebot5000: nice

me: You know, I am tired of people going offline after I send PMs...
 
stares at him
 
dudebot5000: Lol

me: I am currently... breeding... a support Pokemon...
 
I want to give him his order from my Trade Shop...
 
dudebot5000: And... He's not here to grab it
 
me: ... unfortunately...

GRRAAAAAAAAAAHH
 
dudebot5000: That's my line D=
 
me: So is Blade's.. =)
 
Any more words, you GRAHjesty?

dudebot5000: Not really

me: I named a ******** "Timmehdex". Don't know why.
 
dudebot5000: Lol
 
me: And an ##### "SHE" after Jade.
 
I put them in a [DayCare] Center, and they are a legit combo for an egg...

dudebot5000: You put together Tim and Jade? 0_o
 
me: Oh god, I'm not making anything suggestive here, am I? >____>"
 
dudebot5000: Just kinda 0_oo

me: Hey, I spent 3-4 days getting an ##### with 31 Defense IVs... CUt me some slack... -_-
 
dudebot5000: Lol fine
 
me: Same with a ******** with 31 IVs in Sp Attack

And guess what?
 
THEY ARE TIMMEHDEX AND SHE RESPECITVELY
 
At least the man says "They don't seem to like each other...."
 
dudebot5000: So Jade's a ******** now? 0_o
 
Lol

me: No... Jade's the #####, and Tim is a ********.
 
dudebot5000: Then you contradicted yourself =P
 
me: Yes, I meant to reverse Jade and Tim. -_-

dudebot5000: That makes more sense =P
 
me: At least the man outside the Day Care says that they don't like each other
 
=P
 
dudebot5000: That's good =P

me: I want to type something, but I found out how awkward it is.

Ya wanna know what it is... It is VERY awkward...
 
dudebot5000: Eh, go ahead
 
me: My ##### just laid an Egg... O__o
 
X_X
 
dudebot5000: xD

me: Don't even try substituing "#####" with a female member in MLNO... >__> X_X

dudebot5000: Lol fine =P

me: My ##### is $$$$ and Tim is @@@@@@. Tim is FAR from @@@@@@ and Jade is FAR brom @@@@. Maybe switch the two around, but I can't for breeding reasons.
 
dudebot5000: That statement... Is so true. Lol

me: Try and guess my next Pokemon based on the information.
 
FULLY EVOLVED.

dudebot5000: $$$$ indicates a rise in %%%
 
me: And is more &&&&&&.
 
dudebot5000: And its a staller?
 
I believe you said?
 
No, you said support
 
me: I named the ##### after you. ^_^
 
dudebot5000: Oh?
 
=P
 
And the name is? =P

me: DUDEBOT.
 
dudebot5000: Nice =P
 
Although I'm no good at being a support [[[[[[[]]]]]]]. =P
 
me: Nice job. ALthough it was pretty obvious.

bye

We had... an interesting conversation about two members of MLNO who represent two Pokemon in a Day Care... ^_^"

I omitted Pokemon names and natures, so you won't find out a member of my team. Only Dudebot knows, and THAT's THAT.

AND DUDEBOT, DON'T YOU DARE TELL.

AGH O.o

pokemon.  this post in on topic.  pokemon.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on January 04, 2010, 05:12:27 pm
some of you have earned yourself a beating. you better knock it off, or you can always choose the option of a painful death.
Dude, chill. Remember what happened to your rep the last time you threatened someone like that?

I don't think you're grasping the concept of the word "joke" here. =P

*is playing Platinum* Still looking forward to HG/SS =D Still need to train a competitive team D=


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: red on January 06, 2010, 11:10:10 pm
Im getting Platinum in the next couple days from a friend, how is Piplup for a starter?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on January 07, 2010, 09:09:53 am
BAD. =P Believe me, once you get to the second Gym with him...

Wait, you play Pokemon? O_o If only he were here to see this...=P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on January 07, 2010, 11:31:23 am
Red: =O =D Yes, good good choice of game. =)

Piplup's good, but as Twi said, he's not that great against the second gym... Which is Grass. I'd suggest Chimchar; got my through Diamond okay. Or Turtwig. 'course, if you have access to Wi-Fi, then once you get past the first gym we could swap Friend Codes and I could trade over the starters you don't have. =)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: red on January 07, 2010, 01:41:17 pm
Wait, you play Pokemon? O_o If only he were here to see this...=P
not yet lol
I havent played since silver version came out, forever ago.

hmm, ill def be doing some trading, ill let you know the fc when I get the game.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on January 07, 2010, 01:44:12 pm
Sweet, 'k. Just remember that if you don't have certain badges, and your traded Pokemon are over certain levels, it may not listen to the commands.

But good luck in the game when you get it. =)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on January 07, 2010, 04:39:35 pm
Since he is not here, what Pokemon are you going to use for your team? I can tell you whether a Pokemon is better or is it a good choice, and the preferred moveset in-game.

Make sure that your Pokemon do not overlap types. For example, if I have a Shinx, I would not get a Raichu for that reason, as they are both Electric types.

Here is my Diamond team:
~ Empoleon
~ Roserade
~ Rapidash
~ Drifblim
~ Hippowdon
~ Lucario

Although I noticed I had two Steel types, you don't see that many Steel type Attacks. The Steel Typing serves for defensive purposes, even if Lucario is known for having low defenses. So pardon me for having two Steel types, even if I say that having two similar types is not recommended. Anyway...

The three starters for Sinnoh are, if you want to let a few spoilers...:












Turtwig (GRASS) - It evolves to Grotle (GRASS) at Level 18, and Torterra (GRASS/GROUND) at Level 32. He is the slowest of the starters, but he can take hits very well, as long as you stay away from Ice (especially!), Bug, Fire, and Flying moves. He has High HP, Attack, and Defense so you want to capitalize on those stats. When Torterra evolves, he learns the incredibly useful move Earthquake. If you have a Heart Scale, you can teach Torterra Wood Hammer to deal a bucketload of damage, at the expense of 1/3 of the damage done to the Pokemon. However, his high HP helps negate it. The Turtwig line can also learn Curse, which capitalizes Torterra's high Attack and Defense for lowered Speed, which isn't his best stat anyways. Crunch is also an option for in-game, even if Wood Hammer outpowers it despite being ineffective on certain Pokemon.


Chimchar (FIRE) - It evolves into Monferno (FIRE/FIGHTING) at Level 14 and into Infernape(FIRE/FIGHTING) at Level 36. When Chimchar finally evolves into Infernape, he has very high Speed, Attack, and Special Attack, however, his HP, Defense, and Sp. Defense is low. As a result, even an ineffective hit on Infernape can deal considerable damage. He learns Close Combat and Flare Blitz, all very good moves. He can also go to the Special side, but you will need move tutors or TMs for that. If you choose to keep Chimchar unevolved until Level 23, he can learn Nasty Plot, which boosts Infernape's Special Attack stat very high. Be sure that you have a Special move though.  

Piplup (WATER) - Evolves into Prinplup at Level 16 and Empoleon (WATER/STEEL) at Level 36. It is slow, just like Torterra, but is a bit faster. Empoleon's greatest stats are his Special Attack and Special Defense stats, and its other stats are not too shabby at all. His typing is great, resisting all types but Fire and Grass, and takes 2x damage from Electric, Ground, and Fighting. Once you have the fourth/fifth Bade, depending on version, and have reached Celestic Town, you can teach it Surf for an effective STAB move. It can also learn Drill Peck, and it's Physical Movepool isn't shabby, with several moves to back it up, such as Aqua Jet, which allows it to strike first, Brick Break, and Earthquake. The former two requires TMs. He can even learn Swords Dance to boost this already decent Attack. On the Special side, he can learn Ice Beam and Grass Knot, both good moves.  











Basically, choose Turtwig if you want to have a sturdy Tank, Chimchar if you want a Sweeper, and Piplup if you want to have a bulky sweeper.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on January 07, 2010, 04:47:22 pm
And of course, we'll all be here to help you out. A lot. ::)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: red on January 07, 2010, 06:08:38 pm
Im starting with Piplup, just got the game a couple minutes ago lol
I dont even know many of these new guys from this version, so im not worried about a "team" yet.

Ill post my friend code prolly tomorrow.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on January 07, 2010, 06:12:52 pm
What ever you do, though, don't challenge any of us to a battle. You'll lose terribly until you know how to make your team fully epic. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on January 07, 2010, 06:15:09 pm
'k. Just remember that you have to go through 4 towns first, since there's the starting town, the lab town(Why they split it in this game is beyond me...), the GTS town, and then finally the first gym town. But that shouldn't take long.

Good luck! =)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on January 07, 2010, 07:28:51 pm
@Red - The Pokemon you will encounter in your way to Oreburgh are:

~ Starly -
Starly (NORMAL/FLYING) --> Staravia (NORMAL/FLYING) (Lvl 14) --> Staraptor (NORMAL/FLYING) (Level 34)

Unlike Noctowl and Pidgeot(you can't find one in the game until you beat the game), all average Normal/Flying types, Starly and it's line is very unique and powerful. It learms Wing Attack at an early level, which is very powerful at this point in the game (Level 9!). Eventually, it will learn Aerial Ace, a move that never misses, and when it evolves into Staraptor, it learns Close Combat, a powerful Fighting Move that deals high damage, but lowers Defense and Special Defense. This is what sets Staraptor apart from its Normal/Flying Counterparts, as it finds a way out of being walled by Rock and Steel Pokemon. His Attack and Speed are excellent, but both his Defense stats are very low, so beware of that. 

~ Bidoof
Bidoof (NORMAL) --> Bibarel (NORMAL/WATER) (Lvl 15)

zomg Bibarel! It's Blade and Dudebot's favorite Pokemon of all time. =) On the serious side, Bibarel is just like Rattata/Sentret and stuff, right? Think deeper. Just because it has naturally poor stats, with the only decent one being Attack doesn't mean it isn't viable. It has various disruptive moves that cause havoc for the opposing team. If it is used in competitive play. Otherwise, I wouldn't recommend Bidoof too much other than being an very useful HM Slave.

~ Shinx

Shinx (ELECTRIC)--> Luxio (ELECTRIC) (Lvl 15) --> Luxray (ELECTRIC) (Lvl 30)

He has good Attack, but a shallow movepool for that stat, with his strongest Electric Move being Spark. YOu can use Crunch and Return, overall, he's a decent member on your team, but there are better options. If you really want to use him, then go ahead. 

~ Kricketot

Kricketot (BUG) --> Kricketune (BUG) (Lvl 10)

When it is Kricketot, he really does not have that many moves to start out with, only having Bide and Growl. Even after he evolves, he still does not have many good moves. I highly do not recommend it on your team.
~ Budew

Budew (GRASS/POISON) --> Roselia (GRASS/POISON) (Happiness at Daytime) --> Roserade (GRASS/POISON) (Shiny Stone)

Although it is a pain to evolve, needing a certain amount of happiness, and has to level up at daytime, the results are worth it. It evolves into Roselia after the required conditions are met, and evolves after a Shiny Stone is used on it. Roserade has powerful options, with Giga Drain and Petal Dance being decent options, and Sludge Bomb is a good move to teach it to as as TM as well. I highly recommend this Pokemon, as it has a high Special Attack Stat, good Special Defense, and a decent speed stat.
 
~ Magikarp

You know how this thing works, and everybody does. Just note that some Water moves are physical now because in this generation is where several moves became Physical to Special and vice versa. So Waterfall is an option when he becomes a Gyarados.

~ Geodude
~ Zubat
~ Psyduck
~ Onix
~ Machop

I will update more if I get some research on it.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: red on January 08, 2010, 12:12:57 am
Im almost in the town with the second gym, so far I have:
Prinplup lv 18
Geodude lv 16
Shinx lv 14
abra lv 12
machop lv 8
kricketot lv 8 (aka fail pokemon)
I wish I would have saw B~T's post earlier lol

my friend code is 2880 0674 6128 in case anyone wants to put that in their pal pack.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on January 08, 2010, 12:38:32 am
I'll add that later, then. =D

Second gym is Grass, so I can't exactly say you'll have any major advantages going in. Try teaching your Prinplup an Ice-type move, or grab a flying type. That'll help a lot.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Legodac on January 08, 2010, 01:15:28 am
I watched this for the first time on TV today, with my grandson. I''ve never played the game, but I'm going out tomorrow to buy a Play station 3, if pokemon is there, I will, and get back to you then. Just hope that pokemon is available on PS3


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: red on January 08, 2010, 02:30:43 am
pokemon isnt for the ps3, its a nintendo thing

btw 2nd gym was easy with meh gastly and kadabra, almost a sweep with my kadabra.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on January 08, 2010, 09:31:25 am
@Dancer-

nuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu don't buy a PS3. D=

Let me explain something to you:
The PS3 is for...suckers who want a Blu-Ray Player. (I apologize to anyone here with a PS3 =P)
The XBox360 is for people who want good graphics and shooters. It can do everything the PS3 can and more, for 100 dollars less.
The Wii is for people who don't mind average graphics but want quality games. If you really crave 1PShooters on the Wii, try the Metroid Prime Trilogy and The Conduit.

Now...as for red...good work. =) But I'd reccomend ditching Kricketune in favor of Scyther when possible. I can't remember when Scyther is available, but...it's a great Pokemon. Especially if you evolve it into Scizor. Then give it Bullet Punch and Swords Dance. =D

Machop...he can be useful when used properly. I'd say Lucario is far better, but there's that issue of not getting it until the 6th Gym...=/

Geodude...do you EV Train? Try to max out its defense and special defensee. That's not easy, especially considering where you are in the game. And...er...well...I don't really know Geodude that well. I believe this is B~T's turn. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on January 08, 2010, 11:16:38 am
Legodac: If you want to play the games, get a DS. All the main games are on the handhelds, and are Nintendo-only, because it's a Nintendo franchise.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on January 08, 2010, 02:44:31 pm
Now...as for red...good work. =) But I'd reccomend ditching Kricketune in favor of Scyther when possible. I can't remember when Scyther is available, but...it's a great Pokemon. Especially if you evolve it into Scizor. Then give it Bullet Punch and Swords Dance. =D

Machop...he can be useful when used properly. I'd say Lucario is far better, but there's that issue of not getting it until the 6th Gym...=/

Geodude...do you EV Train? Try to max out its defense and special defensee. That's not easy, especially considering where you are in the game. And...er...well...I don't really know Geodude that well. I believe this is B~T's turn. =P

Scyther does a better job as a Bug Type, and does Heracross. Scyther I think is found in Route 215 (raining) and the foggy route. Heracross, you need to get Honey, and there is a 4% chance of it appearing, so it is a pain to get, but it is worth it eventually.

To evolve Scyther into Scizor, just trade your Scyther and back, holding a Metal Coat. It can be found on wild Bronzor/Bronzong and Magnemite. And if Scyther has Technician as its ability, it boosts moves that have a base power or 60 or lower 1.5x greater, so Bullet Punch will deal 40 x 1.5 = 60 Base Power. If it has Swarm, then just slap X-Scissor on it, and Bllet Punch is still an option, just that it will be less powerful.

Machop, you should be familiar with the line. It does not outclass Lucario in any way, nor does Lucario outclass Machamp. Machamp boasts higher Attack and his Defense and Special Defense, including HP, are enough to make him bulky. Lucario has higher Speed, and Attack/Special Attack, but his defenses are poor. Both are good choices, it just depends on your preference.

Geodude, you are familiar with that. I personally would prefer picking Rhyhorn in favor of Geodude. Rhyhorn is found in Route 214 (Route south of Veilstone) and Victory Road. Although Rhydon and Golem have similar stat distributions, Rhydon can evolve into a better Pokemon, if you trade Rhydon  while having it hold a Protector.

In-game, don't focus too much on EV Training. Just level up your Pokemon as much as you can.

If you thought the First and Second Gyms were easy, Fantina is a far cry from "easy". Her most threatening Pokemon is...  an evolution from a Johto Pokemon.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on January 08, 2010, 02:45:48 pm
@Fawful: I believe the last one Red said he played was Silver or Crystal. He probably has no idea what we're talking about when we say EVs/IVs. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on January 08, 2010, 02:47:44 pm
EVs and IVs did exist back in the days or GSC, and even further back to the first games. However, the game mechanics were very different back then.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on January 08, 2010, 02:50:52 pm
I know. But the regular player would never notice them, hence "he has no idea what we're talking about." =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: red on January 08, 2010, 04:56:05 pm
lol yea, I dont know what IV's are, I know STAB thats about it with the terminology.
an update of my team:
Prinplup lv 25
kadabra lv 25
Graveler lv 25
Haunter lv 24
Luxio lv 20
Togepi lv 18

I just beat the 3rd gym leader.  I need to trade with someone soon to evolve some of my people, cuz I also have a machoke in my box.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on January 08, 2010, 05:21:32 pm
Red: I'll trade with you tomorrow, I'll need to get Plat back into my DS. ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on January 08, 2010, 05:22:32 pm
I'd recommend replacing Graveler with Rhyhorn, and after Level 42, it will evolve into Rhydon. If you don't like to Level up late, or trading away items for evolution, then I guess Graveler is okay, just that the evolved Rhydon is waaay more powerful, and could possible have a better ability. An Elite Four member of the game uses one.

Togepi evolves into Togetic after being happy, right? Now, Togetic has a new evolution, if you use a Shiny Stone found on Iron Island later in the game on it. If it has Serene Grace for an Ability, teach it Air Slash with help from a Move Relearner in Pastoria City, and if you see Pokemon flinching ~60% of the time, it will be a useful addition to your team. Also teach it Aura Sphere. Before you evolve it into Togekiss, teach Togetic Ancient Power for a chance to boost stats at Level 33. You can put Magical Leaf on it if you detest evasion moves and/or hax *coughDoubleTeamcoughSandAttackcough*. Otherwise use a Move TUtor to teach it Special Attack Moves, or use TMs.

And Luxray? Pachirisu is a lot better. Its movepool is very diverse, especially since it can learn the majority of Move Tutor moves, such as Seed Bomb, a Grass move that finds its way out of being resisted by Ground Types. Plus, it has the incredibly-useful Super Fang that only Bibarel in Pre-E4 knows. It chips off half the opponent's current HP. And even better? It has more Speed and Special Defense than Luxray!  

Haha. =P

Obviously, Luxray is the better choice. He has high Attack power to be abused. However, his movepool is very shallow, and his strongest STAB Physical Attack is Spark and Thunder Fang, and they aren't that powerful at all at 65 Base Power.

Not to mention that Pachirisu's base stats for both Attack and Special Attack are both at 45, which is veeeery low.

Overall, your team looks good and very diverse.



Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on January 08, 2010, 05:26:22 pm
I'm gonna help him complete his 'Dex, that's why I'm doing the trade evo. =P

Say, I need to start working on that again... *Looks over at Diamond, FireRed, and Emerald gathering dust* ... Should I even bother attempting to get a shiny Mewtwo, or at least right now?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: red on January 10, 2010, 06:30:37 pm
I just got passed the iron island stuff, and my game froze.  Everytime I put my game in the ds, it doesnt load on to the ds menu screen, it freezes everytime.  Is there a way to fix this?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on January 10, 2010, 06:32:00 pm
0_o That's weird. Never heard of that happening before. Does it do it with any other games?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: red on January 10, 2010, 06:36:33 pm
other games work just fine.  For some reason everytime I start up the ds with that game in it, it freezes right before it says "touch to continue" ive been looking online for some possible fixes.  My team was starting to look pretty beast.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on January 10, 2010, 06:43:45 pm
That's just weird. =/ Is there any stuff on the connectors of the card? And just to make sure, the previous owner didn't use an AR or anything, did they? Just wanna check to make sure, as I've heard freezing be a symptom before, but I kinda doubt it'd be one here. Especially when it's not getting to the DS menu yet...

How old's your DS?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: red on January 10, 2010, 06:46:06 pm
I just bought the ds refurbished, and the game was my friends, that works at eb games, he got it free.  So the game was essentially new.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on January 10, 2010, 06:47:33 pm
... Refurbished? Oh I don't like the sound of that.

Can you describe what it's like when you turn it on? And what type is it, like a DS Phat, DS Lite, or DSi?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: red on January 10, 2010, 06:51:16 pm
its a ds lite
it goes to the white screen and makes the dada noise and freezes right before it says "touch to continue"


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on January 10, 2010, 06:53:08 pm
Hmm. Does it make any type of screeching noise when it goes to that screen? Have you tried blowing into the DS's connectors? Does it respond at all to any touch or button commands?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: red on January 10, 2010, 06:56:27 pm
no unusual noises when it freezes, it just stops and I cant do anything.  Ive tried pretty much everything.  I just sent an email to nintendo customer support.  So hopefully they know a fix or can fix it for me.  Im pretty sure the game is the problem, not the ds, cuz I can play other games without any problems.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on January 10, 2010, 06:58:26 pm
Hmm... Did anything seem off about the game before that? =/ And have you tried any other games recently? I'm just trying to narrow it down here. And probably an attempt at blowing it would help in case it's a case of rogue dust.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: red on January 10, 2010, 07:12:36 pm
nothing weird previously in the game, its was kind of random.  Ive been playing the world ends with you since I havent been able to play plat, and its working fine.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on January 10, 2010, 07:14:59 pm
That's really weird... Have you tried any of your other games, or is that it?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: red on January 10, 2010, 09:01:25 pm
Ive been playing mario kart, and zelda too.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on January 11, 2010, 11:36:13 am
Well that's just weird then. How many times have you tried to get it to work, approximately?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on January 11, 2010, 12:17:23 pm
Alright red, here's what you do.

First, you carefully remove the Action Replay from the DS cartridge...:P

Hm...have you tried running disk cleaner on it Have you dropped or damaged your DS at all in the past?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on January 11, 2010, 01:20:22 pm
... Anyone seen the epic new Pokemon.com yet? =D You'll have to update your bookmarks though. It's epic. And they ported the club from Japan to here finally. =D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: red on January 14, 2010, 12:55:04 pm
I called nintendo and they confirmed that the gamecard for my game was defective and they are trying to repair it, or they will send me a new game.  could take up to 6 weeks maximum.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on January 14, 2010, 12:59:37 pm
=/ Dang... Can you remember what Pokemon you had? We could try to trade you them over after, though some may be unevolved.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on January 19, 2010, 10:18:11 am
*sort of revives topic*

Do we know if Secret Bases and The Underground from D/P/P return in HG/SS? They're fun little minigames. Especially if you're having Trap Wars with your friend. =D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on January 19, 2010, 11:16:31 am
Underground's a big no. Secret Bases seem unlikely as I haven't heard about them, though the Safari Zone customization seems similar.

I think the Pokethelon is the replacement for both those and the Contests. And the Rock Smash Rocks for the underground in a way.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: red on January 27, 2010, 10:23:44 am
Got my game in the mail today, they couldnt fix it, and they sent me a new one.  I cant play it till tonight tho.  I think im going to start off with chimchar this time, and go a different route with the people I catch.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on January 29, 2010, 03:35:23 pm
Quote
An entirely new "Pocket Monsters" series is under development for release in 2010.

The Pokemon Company (headed by Tsunekazu Ishihara) has announced that the newest work in the Pocket Monsters RPG series (Game Freak, Nintendo) is being developed for the Nintendo DS for release by the end of 2010.

Since its first entry, "Pocket Monsters Red and Green" from 1996, the "Pocket Monsters" series has received high acclaim from customers around the world for its distinctive universe and gameplay that involves communicating between different versions to trade and battle. Sales for the entire series have climbed to over 130,000,000 copies worldwide.

The "Pocket Monsters" series for the Nintendo DS made use of the dual screen, touch screen, and Wi-Fi connection for play. The latest project under development is a completely new work, coming four years after "Pocket Monsters Diamond and Pearl" which boasts worldwide sales of over 17,150,000 copies (over 5,800,000 in Japan). It should make an innovative, fresh start by adding even more new game play and new Pokemon.

Please anticipate a later article with news about the game's content.
http://www.bzpower.com/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=257485&view=findpost&p=6657919

Discuss. =D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on January 29, 2010, 04:42:01 pm
=O

=O

=O

=OOO

This could be very epic. I don't get why they called it "Pocket Monsters" though. It's Pokemon. Even if that is just short for Pocket Monsters.

But...If this is something new...not just another Gen, but something more...=DDDD


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on January 29, 2010, 06:27:50 pm
Pocket Monsters is the technical term for Pokemon in Japan. The games and manga at least are all labeled under that title.

...The US market is trying not to scare children by saying Pikachu's not a monster. xD


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Tommy_60 on January 29, 2010, 06:40:36 pm
While in reality, he is.  He caused SEIZURES!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on January 31, 2010, 01:06:56 pm
Well, the anime is... somewhat terrible... but the games are pretty awesome.

We really need to revive this forum... >_<


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: red on January 31, 2010, 01:09:22 pm
anyone want to do a trade/tradeback with meh?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on February 02, 2010, 07:31:57 pm
Went down to GS and got my Pkachu-colored Pichu. And preordered my copy of...

HeartGold.

I'd been leaning towards SS this whole time, but I decided to go with HG because A. It has better version-exclusives and B. I was mainly into SS for Lugia, but you can get a level 70 Lugia in HG.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on February 04, 2010, 03:22:35 pm
Dudebot: That and the name dispute thingy. =P

DT: You get it earlier on though. =P It's like Giratina in Plat compared to D/P. ;)

Hmm. Pikachu Pichu huh... I should check on that.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on February 06, 2010, 01:11:27 pm
Now Blade is being poked fun at. =P Old though. And not as funny as... my other one.

Quote from: Dudebot and me Gtalk chat
11:12 PM me: GGGGGRRRRRRAAAAAHHHHHH
11:13 PM dudebot5000: Not that =O
 me: Did you know Blade secretly trains a Bibarel army?
11:14 PM dudebot5000: He does? =O
 me: Yes =P He even has a Bibarel mech in his disposal =O
 dudebot5000: Oh noez =O
11:15 PM me: It's five stories high!!! =O
11:18 PM Heck, he sent his Bibarel army into Ogame Baldenam's base and attacked!
 dudebot5000: =O
11:21 PM me: Baldenam, being better than Blade in almost every way, beat Blade's army. =D But he accidentally pressed the "MOVE FORWARD" button in the Bibarel mech and destroyed half of Baldenam's base. BUt Baldenam still won though.
 dudebot5000: Lol
11:23 PM me: Unfortunately, he slept during the trip and crashed into his base as well. O_o
 dudebot5000: =O
 me: BLade fail! =D
11:26 PM BIbarel Mech Features:
11:27 PM Super Fang - Uses its front fangs to deal half damage to enemies
  Water Gun - Sprays a blast of water at the foe
  CUt - Slashes at foe
  with its short arms
11:28 PM dudebot5000: Lol
 me: Many more, but that is BLade's secret. =P
11:29 PM Blade spammed Cut many times during his battle with Balde. But its short range made it useless.
 dudebot5000: Lol
11:31 PM me: Blade somehow loves that move... >_>
 dudebot5000: Its Blade lol
  We'll never know
11:32 PM me: hears explosi9on off distance
  DOn't tell me Blade Cut himself.... >_>"
 dudebot5000: Oh god
11:33 PM me: ... And his mech is reconstructed in a flash. O_o
 dudebot5000: Epic gasp =O
11:34 PM me: And no one knows what is Balde's favorite Pokemon, although the public knows that it is the opposite of Bibarel... =O
11:35 PM hmmmm furret? raticate? linoone?
 dudebot5000: Definately not Gallade =P
11:37 PM me: GARDEVOIR!!!
 dudebot5000: Yes =O
 me: and that means... BALDE USES LINOONE! CASE CLOSED! =D
11:38 PM dudebot5000: OF COURSE =O
11:40 PM me: ... im bored.
 dudebot5000: I see.
  And how does that make you feel?
 me: bored.
 dudebot5000: I see.
11:41 PM And what are you going to do about that?
 me: Although we did do some good detective work... =D
  Spend it writing on an essay... >_>
 dudebot5000: Sounds like a plan. =D
11:42 PM me: ***************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************
  snore
 dudebot5000: Lo
  l
  lol
11:43 PM me: falls asleeep
  presses buttons repeatedly
  kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
11:46 PM asdfghjkoooeoeoeoeoeoeooooooe oeeoeo...
  ... bye sleeps
 dudebot5000: Bai


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on February 06, 2010, 01:15:33 pm
xD Nice. =P Except, if I have a Bibarel army at all, there's only 70 or so of them, and that's only because Rakoua gave me his own army of them. And there's a Giratina mech, not a Bibarel one. More damage that way, because of the sheer size of it. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on February 06, 2010, 07:14:05 pm
This is worth the double post.

So, I was just about to get off, but checked Serebii first.

The first Gen 5 Pokemon silhouette has been revealed... Who is it you ask?

"Z".


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on February 06, 2010, 07:38:16 pm
Epigasp. =O

Its confirmed 100% now! Gen 5! =D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on February 06, 2010, 07:47:48 pm
Woot =DDD

That silhoutte looks pretty cool, too. I wonder why Nintendo would announce Gen 5 so early though...HG/SS aren't even out in North America yet.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on February 06, 2010, 08:01:59 pm
The new Pokemon almost looks like a buffed up Lucario...

Yay for new Pokemon! =D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on February 06, 2010, 08:11:16 pm
Watch it be the 5th Gen's Garchomp. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on February 07, 2010, 09:05:23 am
Woot =DDD

That silhoutte looks pretty cool, too. I wonder why Nintendo would announce Gen 5 so early though...HG/SS aren't even out in North America yet.

Early? We had Gen 4 Pokemon thrown at us before Emerald was released; remember Destiny Deoxys? =P Heck, as someone pointed out somewhere recently, the longest wait has been just about 2 years, and that was between Emerald and D/P. And it would've been in the 13th movie anyway, and with them announcing the new RPG(s) for this year, it was bound to happen. ;)

Dudebot 2: Heh, yeah. =P

Also, just a note, it being Z hasn't actually been confirmed, but I think it's very likely. Especially as it happened on the episode of Pokemon Sunday that was supposed to have them find out who 'Z' was. =P

Alright; now... Let's guess what type of graphics Gen 5'll use. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on February 07, 2010, 04:22:12 pm
I think the new Pokemon looks kind of like a third evolution of Misdreavus.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on February 07, 2010, 04:45:11 pm
One site is theorizing that it may be an evo of Mightyena... Partly because it's appearing in Movie 13 with the new Pokemon, and there's the possibility that that Pokemon isn't 'Z'.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on February 07, 2010, 07:37:36 pm
Among my guesses for this: Lucario evo, another Eeveelution, Vulpix evo, Nuzleaf evo, Weavile evo, it could be a lot of things. Lucario, Eeveelution and Nuzleaf are my main guesses (that thing distantly resembles Shiftry, actually)

And is it just me, or does that thing just have one arm and that hair-head-tail-thing?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on February 07, 2010, 07:41:52 pm
The second arm's hidden; trust me, it's there. Remember, this is a silhouette, so the black for the arm is hidden with the rest of it.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on February 07, 2010, 09:20:13 pm
Yeah. And it just occured to me that while we can guess all we want what evolution it is, there's an equal chance that it will be a totally new Pokemon. Which makes the wait even more exciting. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on February 08, 2010, 12:23:14 pm
Oh, of course. I'm banking on a new Pokemon entirely, but...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Mahri828 on February 08, 2010, 06:49:48 pm
 You can try to deny it, but the truth is.....everyone loves Pokemon!!! I quit playing Pokemon about when the third set of pokemon monsters came out....


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on February 10, 2010, 09:59:59 am
W00t new Pokemon =D They look pretty cool, too. I might get the evolved one on my 5th Gen team.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on February 10, 2010, 10:29:45 am
=O Rahkshi hasn't posted in this topic for a long time! =O

And it sorta does look cool, although I fail to see how a tiny wolf can grow to enormous proportions in one evolution.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on February 10, 2010, 10:34:53 am
If I had to guess, I'd say it involves a stone. Or there's a middle evolution we don't know about. Or you need to stop being so picky. We get 2 5th Gen Pokmon and all you care about is that one is significantly larger than the other. =P I wonder when the next games will be announced. I mean, Japan got new game announced about this time last year (correct me if I'm wrong) and they've already seen a couple of new Pokemon.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on February 10, 2010, 10:52:38 am
If I had to guess, I'd say it involves a stone. Or there's a middle evolution we don't know about. Or you need to stop being so picky. We get 2 5th Gen Pokmon and all you care about is that one is significantly larger than the other. =P I wonder when the next games will be announced. I mean, Japan got new game announced about this time last year (correct me if I'm wrong) and they've already seen a couple of new Pokemon.
Did you miss the huge 'NEW RPGS FOR DS ANNOUNCED!' thing of last week? =P New RPGs by Gamefreak(Aka, fifth gen) will be out this year sometime.

And Zoroark and Zorua looks pretty cool. Didn't expect fox, but it's still cool.

B~T: *coughriolucoughlucariocough*


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on February 10, 2010, 10:55:55 am
@Blade - you were wishing it was a bibarel evo, non?

... Anyway, I could've sworn that the new game will come out in the same year as HG/SS... hmmm...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on February 10, 2010, 11:07:42 am
B~T's small text: No, I was hoping it was a hedgehog like the silhouette suggested. Bibarel hopefully won't make any type of appearance in the 5th gen.'course, there'll likely be a Pokemon just as annoying at the start of the game... -_-

B~T: It will be, it's releasing this year. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on February 10, 2010, 11:45:58 am
It looks as I thought it would, but at the same time nothing like it. =O

In other words, EPIC. =OOO


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on February 10, 2010, 11:51:23 am
Yep, it certainly is epic. I think this'll be the 5th Gen's Lucario.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: red on February 10, 2010, 10:18:14 pm
could someone explain IV's and EV's and stuff to meh?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on February 10, 2010, 10:30:28 pm
If you'll take a quick look at the first post, you'll find 3 posts (linked) that explain the whole thing. ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on February 11, 2010, 05:38:31 pm
OK.... Zoroark looks NOTHING like Mismagius. Why did I think it did? But Zorua looks kind of a Dark-type Vulpix...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on February 11, 2010, 05:54:19 pm
Well, as Zorua is the DarkEvil Fox Pokemon... =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: red on February 11, 2010, 07:44:14 pm
is it possible to get darkrai or manaphy in plat?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on February 11, 2010, 08:23:54 pm
Catching one: No, you have to get them at an event.

Seeing one in Pokedex: Darkrai is not needed for the Pokedex, and Manaphy can be seen in Mr. Backlot's mansion, and in his room, there is a book, and "talk" to it.

And you must trade with someone or get it at an event if you want to see Darkrai.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: red on February 11, 2010, 08:29:40 pm
hmm yea I saw the manaphy.  Anyone got a darkrai then. lol


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on February 13, 2010, 05:08:09 pm
Oh hey, I just rememebred this.

Apparently Green is still being called Blue in these remakes, even though that essentially should've gotten retconned in FR/LG. >_<


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: red on February 14, 2010, 05:47:52 pm
I just caught this dratini, and the pokecenter lady said that it had a pokevirus, and now everyone in my party has it too...  Does anyone know if the virus goes away ever?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on February 14, 2010, 05:55:25 pm
Yes it does, store one of those in a box ASAP.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on February 14, 2010, 06:06:05 pm
I just caught this dratini, and the pokecenter lady said that it had a pokevirus, and now everyone in my party has it too...  Does anyone know if the virus goes away ever?

SPREAD IT TO YOUR OTHER POKEMON DO IT DO IT DO IT.

No really. It will HELP you with EV Training. Even if you don't, it DOUBLES the stat gains on the Pokemon should it level up.

GIVE IT TO ONE POKEMON AND STORE IT IN THE PC SO THAT THE VIRUS STAYS FOREVER.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: red on February 14, 2010, 09:33:35 pm
alright, I have 2 of the infected in the box, it doesnt seem to be spreading tho, or maybe it just takes a lot longer when going through the pc.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Mahri828 on February 14, 2010, 11:14:34 pm
 I remember getting poke virus once.... That was a while ago though. All I have is a gameboy color with pokemon crystal, though admittedly I have beaten the LV 100 battle tower numerous times.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on February 14, 2010, 11:39:36 pm
@Red: Spend some time running around and battling with a PokeRus-infected in your party, and the others will catch it too. It won't spread in your PC, but the inflicted pokemon won't lose it in a couple days either. Heck, it won't lose it at all, lol.

@R8: Regi info:
http://www.serebii.net/platinum/regigigas.shtml

The birds are roamers. Talk to Oak in Eterna after getting the Nat. Dex, and they'll start running around. ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: red on February 15, 2010, 12:00:01 am
@Red: Spend some time running around and battling with a PokeRus-infected in your party, and the others will catch it too. It won't spread in your PC, but the inflicted pokemon won't lose it in a couple days either. Heck, it won't lose it at all, lol.

@R8: Regi info:
http://www.serebii.net/platinum/regigigas.shtml

The birds are roamers. Talk to Oak in Eterna after getting the Nat. Dex, and they'll start running around. ;)
alright, thats what ive been doing, I have like 25 infected =]
the birds are annoying.  I finally caught the zapdos and cresselia, and I still have moltres, articuno, and mespirt to catch. >.<


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on February 15, 2010, 09:00:19 am
I've got all the roamers expect Mespirit. That's the only one I've never caught, not even in my old Diamond. I'm too lazy to raise a Wobbuffet to keep it in, which magnifies the problem. >_<


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on February 15, 2010, 09:48:44 am
In my Diamond, I only caught Mesprit; didn't bother doing the Cresselia event (for now).  :P

I love my Crobat. ^_^

And does anyone want a new Pokemon review from me?

 


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on February 15, 2010, 10:28:19 am
Is it possible to find Regirock and Registeel in Pokemon Platinum?
I was able to find Regice in the Ice Cavern or whatever it's called but I couldn't find the others in Mt. Coronet...
Also, are Articuno, Zapdos, and Moltres in Pokemon Platinum as well? Or am I thinking of something else?
Rock's in the desert route cavern, and Steel's on Iron Island. ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Mahri828 on February 15, 2010, 05:27:27 pm
 Does anyone know if it is at all  possible to catch Celebi in pokemon Crystal?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on February 15, 2010, 05:30:09 pm
Not at all possible unless you had a Japanese Crystal with the Mobile adapter like 11 years ago. ::)

Though there'll be another Celebi event for HGSS near when Movie 13 comes out here.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on February 16, 2010, 09:02:49 am
@B~T-Yeah, Yeaaaah!! =D

Yeah, but it won't really matter, because Gen 5 will come and it probably won't be backward-compatible with D/P/Pt/HG/SS and there'll be an aPokelypse and everyone wil forget about Celebi because they can't get it. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on February 16, 2010, 10:59:42 am
Oh, trust me, it'll be backwards compatible. *Remembers the uproar when that happened last time*


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: red on February 17, 2010, 07:23:56 pm
anyone need a Phione?  I have 3 of em.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on February 19, 2010, 02:44:10 pm
I've got a Manaphy, so I can get Phione any time.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on February 19, 2010, 04:01:59 pm
Same as Blade. =P

Hm...I wonder if there'll be any other Gen 5 Pokemon revealed soonish. That'd be nice. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on February 19, 2010, 04:41:42 pm
I expect one next month or so. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on February 19, 2010, 09:29:55 pm
Quote from: Dudebot GTalk
9:41 PM me: MILEY CYRUS
 dudebot5000: Fires nuke
 me: BIBAREL
9:42 PM dudebot5000: Fires again
 me: BIBAREL CYRUS
 dudebot5000: Fires yet again
 me: BIBAREL KENJI CYRUS
9:43 PM dudebot5000: Fires half a dozen
 me: You just destroyed yourself =P
  BIDOOF
9:44 PM oh.
  SANDI CYR - *gets hit w/ anvil*
9:45 PM ._."
 dudebot5000: It works! =D
 me: HEY HOW DID YOU COME ALIVE IF YOU JUST HIT YOURSELF WITH A HUKE.
  *NUKE
 dudebot5000: I never fired at myself, silly =P
9:46 PM me: Uh... Bibarel Kenji Cyrus is your assigned nickname, ya know...
  BIBAREL MECH
 dudebot5000: Fired at you for spouting such nonsense =P
9:47 PM me: You missed. ^_^
  BIBAREL ARMY
  BIBAWFUL
  hey... since when did Fawful get his Bibarel army? O_o
9:48 PM I mean, I could've sworn that DT hated BIbarel...
  And yet he got his own Bibarel. -_-
9:49 PM strange I must say.
9:52 PM ... I'm bored.
9:53 PM nippaschmintz
  nomnomnomnomnom noodles
   22 minutes
10:16 PM me: You're back =O
 dudebot5000: I never left =
  =O
10:17 PM me: Anyways, apparently, DT, AKA Fawful, hypnotized some of Blade's Bibarel army.
  ANd the result is...
10:18 PM ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... BIBAWFUL!!
 dudebot5000: Gasp
 me: Yea, and Blade's not too happy.
10:19 PM dudebot5000: I can imagine
10:21 PM me: SO he went to Fawful's base, and got the remaining Bibarel army to storm his base
  ... Including his Bibarel Mech
10:22 PM And Fawful hypnotized ALL of his Bibarel army, including his prized Level 70 Bibarel =O
 dudebot5000: Gasp =O
10:23 PM me: No really, he literally does have a Level 70+ Bibarel xD
 dudebot5000: Gasp xD
 me: I'm serious. xP
10:25 PM And all that is left is his Bibarel Mech...
10:26 PM Now, Blade was REALLY mad.
  So he used his Bibarel Mech and...
10:27 PM ... out squirted a Water Gun. Yes.
10:28 PM A 40 Base Powe rMove that has no effect. I swear.
 dudebot5000: Lol
10:30 PM me: *in a Wi-Fi battle with him, his Swampert used Water Gun at my team, and I loled a lot, especially since I said to him "Don't tell me you have Water Gun on Swampert", and he really did. xD
  *not his competitive Swampert, of course. =P
 dudebot5000: xd
  xD
   7 minutes
10:38 PM me: Now. For the real move. BIBAREL MECH USED SUPER FANG
  Fawful's base took Half damage!
10:39 PM BIBAREL MECH USED CUT!
  Fawful's base took 1 damage!
  His BIbarel knows Cut... how surprising. (not)
 dudebot5000: More like "Regained 5 HP" lol
10:40 PM me: Leftovers!
10:41 PM ... so it was a long battle.
  Neither side was winning.
  Blade was bored.
  And so he slept...
  ... zzzzz...
10:42 PM shifts move forward button
  crashes into Fawful's base
  .... ANd he charges straight into his own base without waking up. How original.
10:43 PM And all the Bibawful somehow lost their hypontized status, and joined back Blade's side.
10:44 PM And they rebuilt Blade's broken base (again).
10:45 PM Fun Fact: Blade has a Sjedinja that knows Leech Life and Scratch x_x
10:47 PM And did you knowthat Blade's mech can act as means of Space travel?
  It's WATER POWERED! =D
10:48 PM dudebot5000: =O
10:50 PM me: Oh, and just make sure you fueled it with enough water, otherwise it will be a bummer to be trapped in space.
  Hey, I have to check my MLNO inbox; I got a new message, hold on.
10:52 PM O
  M
  Gee
  Do you know what that PM read?
10:53 PM Blade's trapped in space because he forgot to refuel X_O
10:55 PM DUDEBOT
  GET YOUR BANHAMMER AND SMASH BLADE DOWN TO EARTH.
10:58 PM Hello? Aren't you going to help your friend out?
 dudebot5000: Eh
  Maybe =P
10:59 PM me: OH WHADAREWEGONNADOOOOO
11:02 PM I received another PM...
  Blade's VEEERY angry... >_<
 dudebot5000: I can imagine lol
11:03 PM me: well, tell Blade that he can just use the Mech tail to propel himself forward to Earth
11:04 PM And what's he doing at 11:00 PM?
11:05 PM dudebot5000: Eating a bagel?
 me: Maybe that's why he leaves the forums so early...
  Or maybe praising his Bibarel....
11:06 PM Oh. eating before you go to sleep is not good for your health
11:07 PM It causes your stomach to be weaker, and causes stomach cramps
11:09 PM dudebot5000: Interesting
 me: And unfortunately, after all that whining on the PM system, he became tired and fell asleep.
11:10 PM dudebot5000: lol
11:11 PM me: I can't wait for next day... ^_^
   14 minutes
11:26 PM me: Hey Dudebot, if you don't rescue Blade, Blade will kidnap your GF. aka sandi hehehehe
  He told me in a PM
  xD
11:27 PM dudebot5000: I'd like to see him try =P
 me: Blade owns a GPS... X_X
11:28 PM dudebot5000: Doesn't mean he can get through my defense arrays =P
 me: I heard you ow n spike shields...
 dudebot5000: That and worse
   11 minutes
11:39 PM me: Unfortunately, spike shields do not work, as he can go cyber mode, and has a Spike shield. =O
11:41 PM dudebot5000: Did I mention that everything is powered by a hair from Chuck Norris's beard?
 me: Yeah. Blade thinks he is in Megaman universe.
  ooooh scary.
 dudebot5000: It is
11:42 PM >9000000 times more power than >9000 suns
11:43 PM me: Not to mention the many times you beat Blade in a Pokemon battle.
11:44 PM Togekiss FTW!
 dudebot5000: Yep lol
11:45 PM me: ... Although Blade owns a Togekiss himself...
11:49 PM .... Electivire is a counter, ya know...
 dudebot5000: Yayz
11:50 PM me: Blade has an electivire too, ya know... =P
 dudebot5000: Your point? =P
 me: O wait, I think he abandoned his. =P
  Wait idk
11:53 PM So Blade can use his Electivire against you. =P
   7 minutes
12:00 AM me: snort

Heh. heheheheheh.

Don't think it is as funny as the... first GTalk.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on February 20, 2010, 07:44:10 am
Just as an FYI, that level 70 Bibarel is still a level 70 Bibarel, while my other Pokemon, including Giratina, are like level 90. =P I only used Bibarel as my Water Pokemon since I didn't exactly wanna train a Magikarp to level 20 or so to get it to a Gyarados. Bibarel's never making it to my HGSS box, and I'll wait until the last possible moment to catch it. =P

And don't worry, next time we battle Dudebot, you'll see. Or do you not remember who almost owned you that first match? =P

And I still had thought that I hated Bibarel... ::) Ah well; I think I have an idea... Next match won't count for anything Dudebot; I have an idea. >=D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on February 21, 2010, 02:06:12 pm
Oh god. Your ideas usually turn out badly. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on February 21, 2010, 03:33:42 pm
I'd have to look for it, but I believe he did give his commentary on it on GTalk. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: red on February 21, 2010, 07:12:57 pm
Quote
BAD. =P Believe me, once you get to the second Gym with him...

Wait, you play Pokemon? O_o If only he were here to see this...=P
O RLY?  I've been browsing the forum the last month and a half as a guest, to check up on things, and you try to tell me how I felt not being able to talk to Red about this. :P  He would JUST SO HAPPEN to start playing Pokemon again JUST as I left, wouldn't he? :P
lol yea, just got a DS then.

anyone doing the jirachi event at ebgames/gamestop?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 01, 2010, 12:16:57 pm
I would, but i doubt it's in Canada... As usual. ::)

Now; who else is psyched that HGSS is officially under a week to go!? =D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 01, 2010, 03:25:10 pm
...I still need to preorder mine. =O


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 01, 2010, 03:28:03 pm
... Stupid typoes. I meant under two weeks. xP It'd be better for me in one way if it was only a week, though next weekend works even better for me(... Hopefully) because it's March Break. =D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 01, 2010, 05:53:42 pm
Yes, I am very psyched about the upcoming HG/SS. Now I have an actual reason to go walking with my parents force me to go on. =P I mean, what else would I walk for? My health? Ha.  :D

On an unrelated note...not a good thing for me that WarioWare DIY comes out 2 weeks later. =/


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 01, 2010, 06:09:14 pm
Same here, I may actually go jogging now. xP(... Well, technically if it had've been out like last year I may have started jogging and such then, but... =P)

In other discussion; what do you think would be the best features to include in Gen 5?

Aside from all the features in HGSS combined with the awesome ones left in Plat, I think we can all agree on what Gen 5 needs...

3. D. Overworld. Sprites/Models. And I don't mean psuedo 3D sprites like in D/P/Pt/HG/SS... I mean actual 3D sprites like in Colo/XD. Obviously not as up close and featured in actual cutscenes, but overhead. 'course, it may have to wait 'til the true next DS, but... I think the DS could pull it off, even if we need the sprites/models to be the same size that we have now. It wouldn't be the battle sprites, however, because of the sheer amount of Pokemon we'll have. I'd like 3D battle sprites(Stadium 3D Models, plus all the new Pokemon since? YES. And in 3D battles ala Stadium? YES.), however, I'm willing to wait 'til the next DS for that; since we'd need even bigger carts to hold all that data. xP

Why would it need so much data? Well, when you think about it, we'll have like around 590 or 600 Pokemon by the time the next Gen's released. At least 593 if they include 100 new Pokemon. And since at least 495(Bulba to Arceus plus Zorua/Zoroark) Pokemon need to be in there, plus 3 sets of Starters for sure... that means we're up to 504 Pokemon. And we all know they're gonna stuff a ton more in, so... That's almost 600 Pokemon that need to have 3D Overworld and Battle models. Plus any animations, attacks, backgrounds(Heck, if we're gonna have the battle sprites and overworld sprites be 3D, why not overhaul the whole look of the battle screen? Minus the bottom screen, that could stay a little more plain, since you need to see the options. =P), trainer battle sprites, trainer overworld sprites, backgrounds for the overworld... Seals... Different Pokeballs(You know they're gonna add like 5-10 new Balls, right? Look at the pattern they themselves have set up... And since I'm still waiting for certain colour schemes... I gotta keep hope =P)... Berries/trees... Hopefully Apricorns, especially if the Pokeathlon returns... The Pokeathlon and it's sprites of course... Any mini-games aside from that... That adds up after a while.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 03, 2010, 06:19:35 pm
Got my Jirachi today...now I just need a Celebi, and I'll have all of the rare Pokemon I'll ever need. =P

Seriously, I can't believe how rare Jirachi was before this...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 03, 2010, 06:20:55 pm
You mean not at all? =P Last I heard, you can get unlimited amounts from that Colo bonus disk or something.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: red on March 03, 2010, 06:48:31 pm
You mean not at all? =P Last I heard, you can get unlimited amounts from that Colo bonus disk or something.
no body has that =P
What level range are most of your guys' teams at?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 03, 2010, 06:55:26 pm
My Platinum competitive team is pretty much all at 95. Without haxor, too. =D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 03, 2010, 06:58:47 pm
I so need to train my Pokemon then. xD

Red: I think Korchi said he has it. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: red on March 03, 2010, 07:00:25 pm
My Platinum competitive team is pretty much all at 95. Without haxor, too. =D
mine are in the upper 80's, so im not doing too bad. =]


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 03, 2010, 07:10:58 pm
I'm not getting anywhere because my Platinum is useless for online play. =P

I'm worried about HG/SS being WPA-compatible...I read online the Japanese version isn't. >_< This wouldn't bother me  as much if the DSi hadn't been released like a year ago. If WarioWare: DIY isn't compatible with my DSi's wi-fi capabilities either, I am not going to be amused.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 03, 2010, 07:11:05 pm
... Yep, definitely need to get training. =P

/EDIT: Last I heard, it was compatible with WPA, even the Japanese version.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 03, 2010, 07:20:23 pm
*sigh of relief* I just remember reading somewhere a guy imported HG/SS or something and wasn't able to get it's wi-fi to work. If it doesn't work, and I have to wait for Gen 5...*shakes fist* Nintendo of America HQ will receive several angry emails and a lot of eggs. =P

I just realized...with him gone, we'll never get to battle his HG team. T_T I have my HG team planned, still refining it a bit, but it's coming along nicely and will receive a lot of training in HG. Oh, and they'll be going on a lot of walks with me. =P I won't say too much about my team, except that Feraligatr will be my Physical Sweeper and Scizor, my new favorite Pokemon, will be Director of Physical Punishment.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 03, 2010, 07:22:27 pm
*Was gonna make a joke about a well know 'other' problem with certain kinds of HGSS games, but refrains from it because of the kind*

Well, I know that you have to go to Goldenrod/Ecruteak before Wi-Fi, so that may have been the prob. ::)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 03, 2010, 07:27:44 pm
What "other" problem? O_o

I'm pretty sure the guy would have accessed wi-fi first. Still, changes do happen between Japanese and American versions of games. Like the language. =P

Say...remind me, how do you get the PokeWalker course with the flying and surfing Pikachu again?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 03, 2010, 07:33:27 pm
1. Can't say. Sorry. >> <<

2. a. Did he activate it first though? xP Plus, he may have been using a different type. b. And the very likely Email update to Wii Message thing. -_-

3. It's like the Secret Key, and Oak's Letter and such, you download it via Mystery Gift, which is unlocked from the very start this time round. =)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 03, 2010, 07:36:31 pm
1. PM me.

2. Meh. I s'pose.

3. *hopes for WPA compatibility* The difference between me liking or obsessively loving Heartgold is all dependent on its Wi-fi capabilities. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 03, 2010, 07:39:46 pm
1. Likely that wouldn't work either. =P Let's just say... It's not something people should do. ;)

2. I'm pretty sure I heard that it was compatible though.

3. Well, if the main game is compatible, then it should be itself. =)

Heck, I think the only reason Plat wasn't compatible is because if the DSi came out before Plat, it either was a little while before, or Plat was released before the DSi in Japan.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 03, 2010, 10:24:29 pm
Anyone else take note of the 13th movie trailer?

http://www.filb.de/forum/showthread.php?t=3606


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 03, 2010, 10:59:23 pm
Well, apparently not all the scenes in the trailer may make it into the movie. Although the graphics are very nice, indeed.

And yes, Dawn will be in the movie.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 04, 2010, 11:36:07 am
Dawn's with them, but who knows if this takes place in Johto or not... =/

Sounds interesting, but I haven't seen it yet.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 05, 2010, 11:23:12 am
*Coughs* Speculation =/= actually knowing. ;) In fact, Japan's only up to the Sunyshore battles, and likely they'll want to explode stuff like Stark Mountain(Or merge it with Johto). I mean, it's very likely, but... It haven't been confirmed. ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 05, 2010, 04:19:00 pm
0_o Well I've never heard of that, so you got me there. =| Where was that translated though; SPPf? If so, that'd explain that. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 12, 2010, 11:14:05 am
Well, since no-one's responded...

HGSS comes out in two days. Has everyone decided on what version they're getting? I know I'm getting SoulSilver.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 12, 2010, 08:56:33 pm
I already pre-ordered HG, so obviously I'm getting that one. =P As you guys might have guessed, my time here is going to start dragging in the mud when I get HG. So don't expect to see me much except for exchanging FCs.

Plus I'm going to be going on a lot of walks over a prolonged period of time. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 13, 2010, 07:45:13 am
I put myself down for HG. Although I won't be getting a figurine... ;_;


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 13, 2010, 07:52:59 am
Dang. I never pre-ordered, so... You may not see me on tomorrow at all. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 13, 2010, 08:41:44 am
You might see me a little bit, but only really early. =P

Oh, and I think I figured out why the wi-fi capabilites of D/P/Pt/HG/SS(?) don't support WPA-

Pal Park.

Pal Park is included, under the assumption that a player is still using a DS Lite. Which means that the game wouldn't be ABLE to support WPA.  So it's essentially one or the other, without the "other" part. >_<


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 13, 2010, 08:48:22 am
You don't think a simple coding thing could easily fix that? =P

"if DSi: *Insert code to allow WPA*
else if: *Insert coding to disallow WPA*"

;) Simple switches can fix stuff like that; otherwise there'd be that whole R/G/B/Y/G/S/C problem(RGBY would have to either be able to trade or not be able to trade, with no middle ground. See, I'm assuming how people were able to only trade between G/S/C games in the normal trade center, and only G/S/C to R/G/B/Y in the Time Capsule, is a switch, telling that if it's a GSC to GSC game, allow access to the trade center, if not, forbid access, and allow access to the time capsule.).

Plus, if they can program stuff to toss a Griseous Orb to your pack, and revert formes of Pokemon if you go Online, and disallow SEP... =P

And the likely reason that Platinum wasn't with WPA... The DSi was released after Platinum was in both Japan and North America. ;) Hard to add support when it's not out yet. =)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 13, 2010, 09:00:22 am
Its true, they probably could code that; I had to do a bit of that in my time with C++. Although it may be considered a hassle. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 13, 2010, 09:13:26 am
Compared to how many DSi users who would be up in arms? =p


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 13, 2010, 09:24:49 am
Beats me. =P

So HGSS is confirmed to allow WPA security?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 13, 2010, 09:26:49 am
Including myself. =P As I said, if Game Freak doesn't make WPA work with HG/SS...NoA will receive a lot of angry emails and eggs on their building. =P 'course, it'd give me more time to perfect my competitive team.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 13, 2010, 09:29:01 am
Why NoA? =P I think it's only Capcom of America that can take stuff out. xP

Dudebot: Dunno, I've heard reports of it though. Can't test it myself though; I still only have the first DS. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 13, 2010, 09:41:26 am
@Blade-wait, you still use one of those...things? O_o

I've heard reports that it isn't, but I guess I'll find out tommorow...*nervous*


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 13, 2010, 09:48:14 am
Yes, I haven't got enough money to replace it, and it still works, so... =P

And my old GBA also still works. =P

It seems to be better with the RNG, because I had it on with Emerald for like two minutes, and found Latios. xP


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 14, 2010, 04:22:49 pm
Anyone else get their copy of HG/SS today? Other than me? =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on March 14, 2010, 04:25:27 pm
Not me like always... >_>


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 14, 2010, 04:45:33 pm
Yes, the Pokewalker is included. They made the box bigger to include it. ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 14, 2010, 08:47:20 pm
Well guys,

HG/SS...does NOT work with my wifi. >____________<

On the bright side, it's a great game. =) I'm using a seperate team from my competitive team as my main quest team...just feel like it. I've used the Pokewalker a bit, and it works pretty well. My current team:

Croconaw Level 21
Bellsprout Level 17
Togepi Egg (will hatch soon)
Pikachu-Colored Pichu: Level 30 (won't obey me yet >_>)

Badges: 1

Making some progress....made an unsuccessful attempt at Bugsy (stupid Scyther with U-Turn >_<) and I'm training a bit more to handle it.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: red on March 14, 2010, 08:57:33 pm
I got soul silver today!  I caught a random shiny bellsprout lol.
I started off with totodile, and im on the second leader right now.  Got my jirachi in the pokewalker.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 14, 2010, 09:04:56 pm
I have SoulSilver! I just beat Proton.

But &#$$&@*&ing Comcast won't let me connect my DSi to the internet.

(No, not actually swearing. just typing a lot of random characters. =P)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 14, 2010, 09:39:25 pm
I got soul silver today!  I caught a random shiny bellsprout lol.
I started off with totodile, and im on the second leader right now.  Got my jirachi in the pokewalker.
=OOOOOOO

You caught a shiny already? =O
Lucky... =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: red on March 15, 2010, 12:58:19 am
I got soul silver today!  I caught a random shiny bellsprout lol.
I started off with totodile, and im on the second leader right now.  Got my jirachi in the pokewalker.
=OOOOOOO

You caught a shiny already? =O
Lucky... =P
yea it was completely random, I kinda wish it was a mareep or someone I can actually use later on.  Anyways anyone know what you do with the spikey-ear pichu?  I just got it in the forest with the pikachu colored pichu and so now they both seem kinda pointless.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 15, 2010, 09:04:51 am
I got soul silver today!  I caught a random shiny bellsprout lol.
I started off with totodile, and im on the second leader right now.  Got my jirachi in the pokewalker.
=OOOOOOO

You caught a shiny already? =O
Lucky... =P
I caught a Shiny Pidgey last night on the route about Cherrygrove. =P

DT: You absolutely sure? Maybe there's something you have to set on the menu.

Rahkshi: Yes, the Pokewalker's included, and it's working great for me(Though I think they overhyped the Pokemon gaining levels, since it only seems to gain one per transfer. =P But the Pokemon you can get in the routes make up for it. ^_^), and is definitely something you should try at least once.

So yes, I got mine yesterday(I think I was the first to get it on here; around 9ish on Sunday EST.), and it. is. AWESOME. ^_^ I'm just about to beat Bugsy; but want to get some of the events done, so I'm gonna take a tiny break to catch extra Pokemon so I can trade. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 15, 2010, 10:40:15 am
@Blade-absolutely sure. I went to the wi-fi menu on the game's Menu Screen, tried to connect to my family's network, and it gave me some garbage about "The Nintendo DS does not support this type of connection". >__<

I actually lost to Bugsy earlier because Pichu refused to obey me.  >_< He's sort of going to be useless until I get a few more badges. Oh, and my Togepi hatched ^_^ so I'll be walking with/training. (ParaFlich Togekiss, here I come! =D)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: red on March 15, 2010, 12:14:29 pm
Im on my way to the fourth leader.  Bugsy got pwnd by my pidgeotto ftw! 
@blade ill trade you my shiny bellsprout for your shiny pidgy lol

I caught a random magby on the pokewalker too.  I wore it to tennis practice and got over 8,000 steps.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 15, 2010, 01:18:42 pm
@red-O_o you must either be good at Pokemon or have a lot of free time.

*high fives* I've using any outlet possible for Pokewalker steps. I've been doing a lot of Island Running in Wii Fit Plus, lol.  It gets me about 300 steps for every 2 minutes.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 15, 2010, 02:44:30 pm
I'm about to deliver the medicine.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 15, 2010, 03:54:33 pm
I found out today that my average school day yields ~2000 steps lol.

Heading south from the first gym, ATM.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 15, 2010, 04:07:30 pm
1000 miles...O_O I don't think I've walked that much in my whole life.

Team Status:
Croconaw Level 22
Bellsprout Level 18
Togepi Level 13
Badges: 2

Just taught Croconaw Headbutt, and I've handled the Pichu event. =) Making progress, or something along those lines...=P

@Rahkshi-say, do you have HG/SS already?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: korchi12 on March 15, 2010, 07:57:11 pm
To the pokemon league in HG...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: red on March 16, 2010, 01:29:28 am
on my way to getting the 6th badge!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 16, 2010, 01:42:55 pm
I'm about to enter Victory Road.
My Lugia/Arceus team will be invincible! *evil laugh*

EDIT: Cool! my whole party just caught PokeRus!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: red on March 16, 2010, 11:23:48 pm
I'm about to enter Victory Road.
My Lugia/Arceus team will be invincible! *evil laugh*

EDIT: Cool! my whole party just caught PokeRus!
how'd you get Arceus?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 17, 2010, 09:10:18 am
Current Team Status:

EDIT:
Feraligatr Level 30
Sycther Level 28
Togetic Level 28
Ghastly Level 20 (in Pokewalker ATM)

Badges: 6 (I was desperate, so I used Arceus >_<)


The biggest concern about my team is the gaping weakness to electric-types we have. I didn't realize it until Eusine's Electrode nearly destroyed me (My pokemon were a bit worn out, though). Anyone know a good Fire-Type? I've already delivered the medicine, but I'm a bit nervous about Jasmine...

As for Ghastly, I just wanted a bit of balance for my team. I feel Feraligatr and Scyther (bug-catching contest, this isn't actually  the one that I'll use as Scizor in my competitive team though) are pulling too much weight. Weepingbell was useful before, but his lack of good moves is starting to catch up to me. Togetic, I'm just sort of waiting for some good moves. Or until I beat the E4.

I guess my finished Johto team will look something like this:
Feraligatr
Scizor (if I can find a Metal Coat)
Gengar
Togetic
Ho-oh (Uber, I know, my team is sort of imploding at the moment >_<)
Some Pokemon to replace Weepingbell

EDIT: Dealt with Jasmine. I sorta cheated by using Arceus, but I was desperate. I'm going over to a friend's house on Saturday, which means I have exactly three days to get all 8 badges and prepare my competitive team. I NEED MORE TIME. >__<


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on March 17, 2010, 02:40:49 pm
@DT - Fire type? Ninetales or Arcanine, depending on version.

@red - It was given away at Gamestop. The event is over already.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 17, 2010, 03:02:55 pm
@Red: I got it at Gamestop.

I just beat Red (the game character =P)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 17, 2010, 03:55:51 pm
@Hero-*jawdrop* I'm assuming you didn't take down the 8 Kanto leaders though...

@B~T: Meh, I think Ho-oh will do well enough for me.

Currently workig through the Rocket Base while simultaneously training Gastly.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 17, 2010, 04:09:25 pm
Meh, ever since Platinum, I've refused to use Legendaries in-game. Not that there are any at the 2nd gym, lol.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: red on March 17, 2010, 05:41:35 pm
how are you guys doing with your pokewalkers?  I get on average about 15000 steps a day.  Ive been catching people on the pokeradar like crazy.  Im training the dratini I just caught on the pokewalker. =]


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on March 17, 2010, 05:44:22 pm
@Hero-*jawdrop* I'm assuming you didn't take down the 8 Kanto leaders though...

You realize that Red only appears when you beat the Kanto leaders, right? =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 17, 2010, 05:50:41 pm
how are you guys doing with your pokewalkers?  I get on average about 15000 steps a day.  Ive been catching people on the pokeradar like crazy.  Im training the dratini I just caught on the pokewalker. =]
I get somewhere between 8000 and 9000 per day. And my Jirachi has found some cool stuff.

Also, red's Snorlax (SP?) beat my LV 100 Arceus! Glad I had that Max Revive...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 17, 2010, 05:50:45 pm
@B~T-*jaw falls off of body*

Team Status:

Croconaw Level 32
Togetic Level 31
Scyther Level 29
Haunter Level 27
Badges: 6


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 17, 2010, 05:52:12 pm
I'm one medal short of getting all five Pokeathlon medals! And I have 3 Power medals!  ;D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 17, 2010, 05:56:35 pm
@Hero-O_O Ok, no offense dude, but you have way too much free time. =P

I haven't really done much Pokathelon-wise, alhough I'm pretty good in Stamina.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 17, 2010, 05:58:03 pm
@Fawful: Yes. Yes I am I do.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: red on March 17, 2010, 08:45:51 pm
I just beat the last gym leader.  Its going to be awhile before I beat the elite 4 tho, my team is pretty weak sauce.  Ive got
Feraligator lv 42
Ampheros lv 40
Pidgeot lv 39
Gyrados lv 38
and thats pretty much the only people ive been using lol.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 17, 2010, 09:03:38 pm
O_o How you got through all of those Gym Leaders with THOSE Pokemon, I may never know. :P

I'd reccomend picking up the mascot of your game for your team. Maybe replace Amphorous with Magneton and Gyarados...well, it sort of depends with Gyardos. How's he handling? On one hand, you've got overlapping types, on the other, Feraligatr and Gyarados, overlapping or not, is a rather potent mix if used correctly. If you decide to drop Gyarados, replace him with the Extremespeed Dratini. It's worth the training IMO.

As for your last slot, I'd say maybe an Ice-Type, to reinforce your strength against Lance.

Team Status:

Croconaw Level 34
Togetic Level 32
Sycther Level 30
Gengar Level 30
Badges: 7

Ho-oh and Extremespeed Dragonair/Dragonite will be my two final Pokemon. Then I'll pretty much dump them all (except Dragonite, and I'll use a few of my Pokemon to breed a more favorable version of themselves) and complete my competitive team.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 17, 2010, 09:09:18 pm
For most of the game, my party was: Arceus (Useless since it wouldn't obey me. It spent most battles taking naps.), Quilava, Pikcahu-Colored Pichu, Spiky-Eared Pichu, Kenya (the Spearow that you use to deliver that mail), and the red Gyarados.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: red on March 17, 2010, 09:38:10 pm
O_o How you got through all of those Gym Leaders with THOSE Pokemon, I may never know. :P
lol I didnt have any troubles with any of the gym leaders either. =]

I intend on keeping feraligator and ampheros (ampheros at least for awhile) and I am starting to raise a dratini and my jirachi (I prolly wont use jirachi, cuz its lame)
so with that, I wont need an ice type, because my feraligator has an ice attack, and my soon-to-be dragonite will be its backup against lance.  I was thinking about a gengar.  So thats 4 people for the elite 4 that I can use.  I know I can beat the elite 4 with just that, assuming they are at decent levels (cuz that was my team in silver version) but ill probably catch lugia and keep raising my pidgeot for giggles.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 18, 2010, 02:30:19 pm
Twi: What security does your router use; I have a funny feeling you may be thinking it's what the DSi supports or so. =P

Also; you think HC has a ton of time?

Gym 6 just completed; one star(Likely from getting to the friendship room in Pokeathlon) on my trainer card already, ton of coins(I own at the Voltorb Flip. =P), I unlocked the Area Customizer in the Safari Zone(Which is great, BTW, and so is the Pokeathlon ^_^), and... around 120-130 seen, over 80 Pokemon caught.

Did I mention I'm not even past Mahogany yet?

This is my team:
Level 30 female Quilava(Nicknamed Cyndy, like probably half the people who choose Cyndaquil. =P)
Level 30 female Graveler(Soon to be Golem)
Level 30 male Shiny Pidgeotto(Nicknamed PidgeotSTAR)
Level 30 male Ampharos(Nicknamed Mareep, awaiting change)
Level 30 male Kadabra(Nicknamed Alakazam)(Soon to be Alakazam)
Level 31 female Red Gyarados(Nicknamed Gyara)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 18, 2010, 04:02:34 pm
@Blade-I'm 100% sure it supports WPA, since my DSi itself can get online. It's just that the game has to support it too.

At the moment I'm trying to take out the final (Johto) gym. My team is a bit wimpy, so I'm trading in some Heart Scales to get a few better moves from the move tutor (in Blackthorn, along with the Draco Meter/Starter Ultimate move tutor and Move Deleter).

I'm not sure if I'll be challenging the E4 today. It's looking a bit unlikely, since my team needs training....and I see my friend next on Saturday. *shudders* MUST. FINISH. COMPETITIVE. TEAM.

Although it won't be that hard. Aside from the standard competitive training, I'll already have Extremespeed Dragonite. I also already have a Feraligatr and Scizor, which'll make getting those two easier. The rest of my team remains classified.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 18, 2010, 04:07:53 pm
1. So why wouldn't the Wi-Fi menu support it? That right there is a little bit of an eyebrow raiser... =/ And why can't you use even WEP? Also, what I meant is that maybe the security is higher than you think...?

2. You're further than me. =P

3. Next Saturday, or this Saturday? If this Saturday, you may wanna hurry. =|

4. That's good. However, if you won't have Wi-Fi access...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 18, 2010, 04:13:09 pm
1. Exactly. I went to the wi-fi menu, tried to connect to my network and the thing said "The Nintendo DS does not support this network". Which is stupid, because my DSi DOES support our network.

2. I've racked up like 22 hours or something.

3. This Saturday.

4. ...Don't say it. I can have a team (and dreams, on a related note) if I want.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 18, 2010, 04:15:36 pm
1. Hmm. Was there an error message, or just that? Did it say what type of security it used?

2. I've racked up over 40. =p

3. ... You may wanna get playing. =P

4. I'm just saying. ;) But yeah; definitely get a comp team; you have the Battle Frontier ahead of you. And Red. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 18, 2010, 04:33:38 pm
1. Yeah, it was an error message.

2. O_o

3. ...I'm trying. T_T

4. Yeah. I still have some unfinished buisness with the Battle Frontier.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 18, 2010, 04:43:23 pm
1. What was the number?

2. ... What? =P

3. Do or do not. There is no try. =P </jk>

4. As do I. ;) And I think Johto will have more luck for me in many ways.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 18, 2010, 04:54:01 pm
*Thinks* A lot? =P I'd likely have more, but my DS red lighted a couple times while I was walking around my house for the Pokewalker, and therefore I needed to charge it, and obviously couldn't play and walk at the same time. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 18, 2010, 04:57:56 pm
For the following people who care, my Plat FC has had to be updated; the one listed for myself is no longer valid. So:

Blade (All of you)
B~T
Rahkshi
Anyone else who really cares lol

My new FC for Plat is: 4211-6230-6159
Please update accordingly. I'll also need to re-record FCs again...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 18, 2010, 05:05:16 pm
What happened? 0_o

Anyway, my Plat code is 4125-0887-2432. You've got my SS FC already. =P

Rahkshi: Yep. That's what I like the most about HGSS I think. xP


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 18, 2010, 05:07:49 pm
My FC is irrelevent. =P

Say, I answered the questions for the Dragon's Den Elder and he gave me no Dratini...anyone have an explaination?

(I used Arceus on Clair....only on Gyarados though.)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 18, 2010, 05:09:05 pm
For some reason the Game card Wi-fi info and the DS Wi-fi info didn't match (Which is strange, since I only really use one DS anymore, although I don't think I've attacked Wi-fi with it yet...), so it had to be reset.

And I'll start filling in your numbers, Blade.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 18, 2010, 05:14:24 pm
Twi: ... You answered it in a way that made you seem 'caring' right? If not, retry. If so; exit out and return.

Dudebot: That would make sense; you never transferred it I assume, causing you to need to redo your FC.

Also, that was epicfail on my part. xP


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 18, 2010, 05:16:35 pm
@Blade-I did. But forgot to save before entering. And saved after I finished. >__<

I thought he gives you Dratini either way, though...

EDIT: Ok, I left the Dragon's Den, came back in, went to the Elder, and he gave me the Dratini. And it knew Extremespeed. =D And *heavenly voice* It was Adamant, exactly as I hoped. =D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 18, 2010, 05:17:45 pm
No, I remember running around and transferring stuff. =|

Oh well.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 18, 2010, 05:18:55 pm
He gives you one, but you don't get ExtremeSpeed unless it's the Caring answer set. =|

Also, all those are from the source. And especially the Pichu. Dudebot. =P

Dudebot: I meant transfer the Wi-Fi info; from either the Wi-Fi menu, or DS start menu. xP

/EDIT: Twi: Sweet, congrats! =D

//EDIT: Argh. Going on Wi-Fi cancels out Auto-run and touch screen interaction; it is hard to get used to after being used to those features in-game. xP


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 18, 2010, 05:26:39 pm
That's what I meant, lol.

@Blade: Keep getting Error 86420. Keeps disconnecting myself. >_<


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 18, 2010, 05:28:26 pm
I noticed. =P Now, you host this one; your track record so far hasn't been good. =P

Also, it's using the D/P/Pt Cooltrainer sprites...

/EDIT: But it uses the touchscreen for trades. =D

Also, told you, Dudebot. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 18, 2010, 05:35:47 pm
Booted me off at the wrong moment. ::)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 18, 2010, 05:36:41 pm
Yep. xP Epicfail.

Now, let's try that again, shall we? =P

/EDIT: How are the Johto locations being handled? The Sinnoh locations are showing up perfectly on my end, but I wanna know about Johto to Sinnoh.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 18, 2010, 05:37:13 pm
Eh, I'll think about it. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 18, 2010, 05:38:00 pm
::)

I added a question about the locations to my last post.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 18, 2010, 05:40:26 pm
"Faraway Place." Go figure. ::)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 18, 2010, 05:43:47 pm
Dang, that's what I thought. xD

But it is Faraway, in a way(And Kanto/Johto are south of Sinnoh I think; and Hoenn's in the 'Southern Seas' or such, because of Corsola's Pokedex entry, explaining that people around there live in communities that are on top of Corsola. Ring a Bell, anyone? And I don't mean the Bell Tower. =P). ::) But I thought they'd use the Johto marker. xP


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 18, 2010, 05:47:22 pm
Kanto/Johto is W-NW of Sinnoh. Hoenn is to the W of Sinnoh and SW of Kanto/Johto. ::)

http://www.serebii.net/pokearth/

And unless you want me to grab my competitive team, Blade, I'm not fighting with 3 Scythers, 2 Rattata, and a Nidoran. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 18, 2010, 05:51:48 pm
1. That isn't official, last I heard; And Sinjoh ruins is north of Johto. And since theoretically it would be between Johto and Sinnoh... =P

2. Okay then, you can get it. =P I have a disadvantage myself. xP


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 18, 2010, 05:52:51 pm
If you say so... ::)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 18, 2010, 06:00:02 pm
Okay, that was fail. xP


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 18, 2010, 06:02:57 pm
Yes it was, lol. ><


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 18, 2010, 06:06:01 pm
Note to self: Evolve Quilava ASAP. xP

That was almost fail for me. 0_o


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 18, 2010, 06:14:05 pm
Sounds like a plan to me, lol.

I wonder if we'll ever finish one battle, lol.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 18, 2010, 06:16:03 pm
=P

From the looks of this... =P I'm getting back on now.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 18, 2010, 06:48:15 pm
Dudebot vs Kaze #Whatever: 27-32190-74765


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 18, 2010, 06:56:04 pm
Number one; I was using SoulSilver then. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 18, 2010, 07:16:43 pm
Number two; I wasn't. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: red on March 19, 2010, 12:49:26 am
The elite 4 was a joke.  I beat it with
feraligater lv 48
ampheros lv 47
lugia lv 45
pidgeot lv 45
spikey ear pichu vl 34
pikachu colored pichu lv 34

It was my first attept playing the elite 4 so I could train some of my people, and I didnt expect to win it the first try.  I didnt even get to use my gyrados cuz it was in my pokewalker.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 19, 2010, 09:07:55 am
It's a lot easier with Lugia. =P

My team is not as good as yours (well, better than the Pichus maybe =P) so I may train a bit. I primarily want to get Dratini to evolve.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: red on March 19, 2010, 10:29:06 am
It's a lot easier with Lugia. =P

My team is not as good as yours (well, better than the Pichus maybe =P) so I may train a bit. I primarily want to get Dratini to evolve.
the lugia mostly just helped with bruno, using aeroblast on his hitmon's, but I hadnt trained him at all since catching it, so I was surprised.  The pichus were in the party to sacrifice if need be.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 21, 2010, 01:52:59 pm
Yay! Comcast replaced our Modem, and I can access Nintendo WFC! Now I can collect the Mystery Gift when it comes out!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: red on March 21, 2010, 08:53:53 pm
If someone has an event pokemon that does something in SS, can that pokemon unlock the even in multiple games?  Say if I were to borrow someone's arceus event, then I could get dialga or whatever?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 21, 2010, 09:21:59 pm
I think you might. AFAIK, each pokemon only works once per game, so...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: red on March 21, 2010, 11:11:41 pm
I think you might. AFAIK, each pokemon only works once per game, so...
If thats the case, then does someone have an event arceus I can borrow?  lol
and if anyone needs the ebgames jirachi for their pokewalker, I can lend it out.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on March 22, 2010, 03:53:56 pm
If thats the case, then does someone have an event arceus I can borrow?  lol
and if anyone needs the ebgames jirachi for their pokewalker, I can lend it out.

MEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

Please?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 22, 2010, 03:55:30 pm
Dudebot: AFAIK, they can work for multiple games.

Oh; don't worry, unless you overtrain, you'll have a good challenge. I still haven't whited out yet, but I came very close to a couple times.

Progress: Almost 200(181) seen, 120 caught. My levels are level 40, except for my Shiny now-Pidgeot. All my team are evolved. I've got all the badges, and just need to go get Lugia and trash the E4, but I'm gonna train first, since I've been under-leveled from the word go(Except for Cyndaquil; it was overpowered for the first one or two gyms. xP). xP(Heck, I barely beat all four Kimono Girls in a row...)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 22, 2010, 04:07:49 pm
All 5 Kimono Girls... =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 22, 2010, 04:11:00 pm
GAH! My Pokéwalker screen is completely scratched up! I can't see anything on it! and I don't even know what happened to it!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 22, 2010, 04:13:34 pm
Dudebot: You know what I meant. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: MsRowdyRedhead on March 22, 2010, 04:14:32 pm
HC, 2Mak07's was like that after 1 day.
BTW the SS music is very awesome.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 22, 2010, 04:18:07 pm
HC, 2Mak07's was like that after 1 day.
As long as it keeps working....


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 22, 2010, 04:24:46 pm
HC: Belt, pocket, or strap?

MsRR: Yes, it is. ^_^ I think the National Park background is one of the best. Sounds like something out of Ocarina of Time, and that's a very good thing. And the graphics are improved, even between Platinum to this.(I like the more realistic tall grass. =) )

HC: Well, the only way it would is if the part behind the screen is broken, and if it's just scratched, it should be fine. ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 22, 2010, 04:26:12 pm
Belt.

Just scratched.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 22, 2010, 04:30:39 pm
There's your problem; carry it in your pocket, because if you have a scratchy shirt... =P

What's your progress like?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 22, 2010, 04:58:17 pm
I beat Red, I have Lugia and Ho-Oh, complete Unown Report...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 22, 2010, 05:04:22 pm
How many pages are in those?

Also, congrats for beating Red, his levels are in the 80s. =D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 22, 2010, 05:22:18 pm
Red actually beat my Arceus!

9 Pages.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 22, 2010, 05:39:41 pm
Wow. =O

Ah, okay; they're mostly unlocked by solving the puzzles, correct?(And capturing the Unown. =P)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 22, 2010, 05:53:59 pm
you need to catch all 26 Unown, solve all the sliding puzzles, and open all the back rooms. (those rooms that need you to use an item or have a Pokemon in your party). after you speak to the researcher and get all the pages, go to the main entrance. they'll be a brief event, and Unown ! and Unown ? will appear in that room. catch them and talk to the researcher again to get the final pages.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: red on March 22, 2010, 11:00:23 pm
If thats the case, then does someone have an event arceus I can borrow?  lol
and if anyone needs the ebgames jirachi for their pokewalker, I can lend it out.

MEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

Please?
alright!  Ill PM you when we are both on sometime.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Tom on March 23, 2010, 07:34:42 pm
I'm training for the Elite Four, trying to add Hitmontop to my team but so far the Tyrogue I'm working with is horrible or I'm bad at training. Where can I battle Pokemon for good Attack EVs in HeartGold?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 24, 2010, 03:45:58 pm
Can anyone access Smogon's Strategy Dex? I keep getting an HTTP 500 error... =/

Edit: Nevermind, it's working now. =D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 28, 2010, 12:48:48 pm
Hey, Dudebot, have you ever heard of the RNG Manipulation thing, since you go on there?

Also, I've only got two badges to go(I ran through Kanto quicker than I expected to... Why'd they have to go and have only Pokemon in the level 50 ranges? D= Especially since it'll be like 30 levels higher for Red. ::)), And as such it's getting closer to me getting my Comp team over(Though Red'll be tricky for sure) and starting the true post-story.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: red on March 28, 2010, 06:20:45 pm
Hey, Dudebot, have you ever heard of the RNG Manipulation thing, since you go on there?

Also, I've only got two badges to go(I ran through Kanto quicker than I expected to... Why'd they have to go and have only Pokemon in the level 50 ranges? D= Especially since it'll be like 30 levels higher for Red. ::)), And as such it's getting closer to me getting my Comp team over(Though Red'll be tricky for sure) and starting the true post-story.
lol dont stress too much about Red, I beat em' with a lv 70, two in the 60's and 2 in the 50's, and my hm slave.  If you catch mewtwo before battling him it shouldnt be too hard.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 28, 2010, 07:04:36 pm
You can get Mewtwo before him?

And would my Arceus work? =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 28, 2010, 07:43:37 pm
I haven't been playing much lately. I sort of got into World of Goo and started neglecting my Pokemons, but that should change now that I've beaten WoG.

I've got 11 badges (All 8 Johto Gym Leaders plus Lt. Surge, Misty and Koga's daughter, I forget her name) and I've been neglecting most of my team in favor of my Extremespeed Dragonite. =D Tommorow I'm going to start picking off the rest of the gyms and get my competitive team up and running.

Say, does anyone know how to get the Magnet Train Pass? I went back into Johto after beating Misty and I discovered an unpleasant surprise: After you go to Kanto and back, the S.S. Aqua only runs Mondays and Fridays. And that guy at Victory road is still blocking my path to Kanto. And I don't have a Train Pass. >__>

I'm thinking about making a last-minute change to my (not started, other than Dragonite) competitive team: Adding Gengar. Gengar was incredibly useful for me in Johto, and since I taught it Attract (it's Female) I could breed it and recreate that success competitively. Granted, I don't have a lot of people to battle (DON't say anything, Blade =P) but it helps to have, especially with the Battle Frontier.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on March 28, 2010, 08:27:49 pm
Erm, use Fly? =P

I guess you could always wait 3 and a half hours, too. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: red on March 28, 2010, 10:13:37 pm
Say, does anyone know how to get the Magnet Train Pass? I went back into Johto after beating Misty and I discovered an unpleasant surprise: After you go to Kanto and back, the S.S. Aqua only runs Mondays and Fridays. And that guy at Victory road is still blocking my path to Kanto. And I don't have a Train Pass. >__>
Fly to the pokemon league, then you can fly anywhere.
to get the magnet train pass go to copycats house, find her doll in Vermillion and return it to her.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 29, 2010, 09:06:35 am
@DB-the guy on Victory Road is blocking my path to Kanto. =P Although I suppose I could do that xP

@Red-I've seen Copycat, but what Clefairy Doll? (Gen 2 was the only Gen I never really played much: I beat Gold and got the 16 badges and all, but it was more of a timekiller than anything.)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 29, 2010, 12:52:06 pm
Twi: You fly from Kanto/Johto, to Victory Road, to the other Region. Very simple. =P I've used it a lot. And to get him out of the way, you have to come from the other direction, meaning you have to fix the Power Plant. ;)

/EDIT: I just clocked in at 123:45. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: red on March 31, 2010, 11:50:53 pm
The yellow forest event comes out tomorrow through mystery gift!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 01, 2010, 02:03:13 pm
Yep, already got it, and if I can I'll try to get the first Group A Pokemon today, if not both(If I have time to get the second. xP). =)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: red on April 01, 2010, 06:25:29 pm
Yep, already got it, and if I can I'll try to get the first Group A Pokemon today, if not both(If I have time to get the second. xP). =)
lol ive got both group A's. one pikachu had surf, the other had fly.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 01, 2010, 06:34:37 pm
Yeah; well; if you take out a Pokemon and put it back in, you can. =P

/EDIT: So, um, anyone happen to know where there are maps of more than just two or three Johto routes/locations? HGSS styled? I don't wanna have to go through every single place I was in before to find all the Rock Climb places, and a Mt. Mortar map would be pretty handy so I could actually get that Tyrogue. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: red on April 06, 2010, 10:12:02 pm
To anyone who has gotten the 5 shiny leaves:
How long did it take to actually get the 5th leaf?  Its taking me forever.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 08, 2010, 02:53:38 pm
A while on Typhlosion, but not long at all on Golem. The trick is that there's only certain routes, and of those routes, only certain of them will have the leaf, and if you get one on one route, then if another route has that same type of leaf, you can't get it on that other route.

It's confusing. =P Basically there's five types of leaves, and at least one route that corresponds to them. If you get one in say, Route 1, and it shares a type with Route 48, you couldn't get another in Route 48 for that specific Pokemon. ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: red on April 08, 2010, 04:33:45 pm
that was pretty confusing lol
Im still looking for my last one on Gengar.  Can you find two leaves in the same route?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 08, 2010, 04:45:40 pm
No, only one in a route, and only one per route group.

I recommend you look at Bulbapedia's article on it; you'll have a more visual way of seeing what I mean(It's where I first noticed that there was even anything like that; me only getting my last Shiny Leaf on Typhlosion on the Rainy route just about confirmed it.). =)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 09, 2010, 11:13:01 am
And so it begins... Just confirmed...

Pokemon Black and White.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: red on April 09, 2010, 11:35:38 pm
And so it begins... Just confirmed...

Pokemon Black and White.
lol, it was only a matter of time...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: lionytai on April 10, 2010, 01:09:33 am
red:the battler double posted?!?!?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 10, 2010, 10:22:29 am
That was not needed Lionytai; especially since it's epic huge news, and no-one posted before that.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on April 10, 2010, 10:58:04 am
omg Serebii showed game graphics! =O

Better hope the storyline is good...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 10, 2010, 11:05:57 am
The graphics are epicawesome(And not just Serebii; though that's where I noticed it first. =P). I call dibs for the male char to be named Black. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 10, 2010, 12:58:03 pm
Why don't people like the names? D=


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on April 10, 2010, 01:10:31 pm
I'm enjoying the names. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 10, 2010, 01:15:05 pm
Because likely if I don't call dibs on Black quickly you'll end up with your usual Black colour for your name. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on April 10, 2010, 01:56:48 pm
I like the names. And the 3-D looks epic, especially with the 3DS coming soonish or laterish.

And I don't know why, but based on the names, I think Black and White will be like *giggles uncontrollably* Red all over. Again. And Blue and Green. xD


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 10, 2010, 02:14:37 pm
Bad pun. =P

But yeah; it looks awesome, and we may be getting new info later tonight, and on the 15th. And from then on, we just have to wait for more and more CoroCoro details and such as we get them.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on April 10, 2010, 10:03:34 pm
@Red: I'm automatically getting Black's name when it comes out. It just fits my color scheme so well. =P

@Topic: I'm lovin the updated graphics. SKYSCRAPERS. =O


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 11, 2010, 09:09:21 am
Well then I'm taking Grey for the rival if he doesn't look fail. =P I'm not ending up with the girl. =P

And yes; those are epicness.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Teddy3333 on April 11, 2010, 09:14:06 am
Pokemon: Absurdly expensive trading cards.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 11, 2010, 09:15:06 am
We're talking about the games; but I don't know if it's any worse than any other cards out there. ::)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Mahri828 on April 11, 2010, 10:35:43 pm
 I wish I had the new Pokemon games. Of course, I also need the gaming device to go with them. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 17, 2010, 09:12:53 am
So; trading in some form between D/P/Pt/HG/SS and B/W confirmed. The Shiny Beasts unlock something in Black and White, though we don't know what.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on April 24, 2010, 07:04:00 pm
So... I can see that this board is very active. =P

No battles, no reviews (*cough*), no - *whack*

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.filb.de/&ei=aGfLS8aPL4mGNtCAuYQF&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBYQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dfilb.de%26hl%3Den (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.filb.de/&ei=aGfLS8aPL4mGNtCAuYQF&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBYQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dfilb.de%26hl%3Den)

Scroll down to where they mention Celebi, Suicune, Entei, and Raikou, and you'll see some interesting attacks they have. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 24, 2010, 07:06:18 pm
You mean like how all the beasts have Extremespeed, and such? I've seen those. =P

But yeah, some interesting attacks; I think Entei may have the best moves in a way though, Flare Blitz over two fail accuracy moves. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on April 24, 2010, 07:09:05 pm
NONONONONO

Look at the beast trio's attacks, VERY carefully.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 24, 2010, 07:19:24 pm
... I don't get it... =/ Unless it's only on the translation? =/


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on April 24, 2010, 07:21:12 pm
Only on the translation from German to English...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 24, 2010, 07:23:28 pm
. . . xD

"ENTEI! USE TURBO SPEED!" xD

Oh, oh, and "Suicune! Use Air Interface!" =P

They got Aura Sphere more or less correct though. =P

"Entei! Use 'Whine'!" =P

"Suicune! Use Iciness!"


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Legodac on April 24, 2010, 07:52:51 pm
Q: Can I get Pokemon on PS3?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 24, 2010, 07:56:10 pm
Uh, no, because it's a Nintendo franchise, and well... Nintendo and Sony don't exactly get along, because of certain reasons back in the SNES era. =P

But if you have a DS, you can get the Fourth Gen that's out now, and the upcoming Fifth Gen. And as the DS kinda beats the PSP(Especially with the DSi incarnations), it's a good idea to get it. ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Legodac on April 24, 2010, 07:58:46 pm
I have no portables, except the original ps, although my grandson has a DS


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 24, 2010, 08:03:48 pm
The original PS wasn't a portable...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Legodac on April 24, 2010, 08:07:53 pm
I meant the origiinal ps portable, I bought it in Germany almost 20 years ago


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 25, 2010, 08:59:07 am
I don't think the Playstation was even around back in 1990... =/ Are you talking about the Game Boy?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: red on May 07, 2010, 12:23:31 am
anyone else get the winners path yet through mystery gift for the pokewalker?  Because of it, I am hoarding beldum lol.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 07, 2010, 11:12:21 am
I did, already got a Bronzong and Duskull. ^_^


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on May 18, 2010, 03:39:59 pm
*Revives*

Anyone have a level-grinding spot for pre-E4? Wanna even things out a bit, lol.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on May 18, 2010, 03:48:34 pm
you only need level 40s =P

i would recommend trainer rematches


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on May 18, 2010, 03:54:29 pm
That's what I want to level up to. =P

And thus comes the fun of finding those that want to fight, lol.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on May 18, 2010, 03:56:11 pm
http://www.serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/rematch.shtml

your welcome =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on May 18, 2010, 04:16:32 pm
Oh, I'll know -where- they are, lol. I just need to find out -who- wants to have a go. =P

*Looks at the page*

That'll be nice, lol. xD


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: red on May 18, 2010, 10:33:28 pm
just trade your people to platinum for training. lol


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Dudebot5000 on May 19, 2010, 03:05:25 pm
Yeah, but that takes all the fun out of it, lol.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on May 19, 2010, 03:55:15 pm
I just started replaying Pokemon XD and Explorers of Sky. I forgot how fun they were!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Nova Hunter on May 19, 2010, 04:03:42 pm
I got Pokémon Diamond the day it came out in North America (April 22nd, 2007) and ended up beating the champion in May.

...of 2009.

I wasn't a very speedy Pokémon trainer, that's for sure.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on May 19, 2010, 08:49:01 pm
^ *lol*


Quote from: The Grand Master of All Things Bad
Who's...Wigglytuff? I am the Grand Master of All Things Bad.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on May 19, 2010, 09:34:15 pm
agggghhh... haven't touched my Pokemon games for a long time... D=

I guess I'll go on another IV breeding quest with... a certain Pokemon.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on May 19, 2010, 09:49:52 pm
Quote from: The Hexagon Brothers
Sound off! 1! 2! 3! 4! 5! wait...5? Are we missing someone? let me try. Sound off! 1! 2! 3! 4! 5! well, I'm sure he'll turn up.
Quote from: The Hexagon Brothers
Sound off! 1! 2! 3! 4! 5! 6! 7! 8! Wait...8? Careful, brothers! There may be spies among us!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 20, 2010, 12:23:20 pm
Black and White. Look. Awesome. Animations that aren't just at the start of battle? EPIC. Camera zooming out to show the whole Pokemon? EPIC. New starters? EPIC. Redesigned status bar that's even better looking than Platinum's? EPIC AWESOMENESS. =D Isshu looks awesome; Hiun looks pretty cool; I like Zoroark's new ability(That'll come in real handy; but I think we all know that he'll be elevated to Uber by October. =P), the new main characters are epic, the fact that they're older than 10 is epic awesomeness... I could go on. =P

Wonder how we'll get Zorua though; and if you can evolve Zorua into Zoroark...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on May 20, 2010, 02:05:43 pm
If you listen to the Sky Jukebox with headphones, you can hear some really subtle sounds. I think I heard a didgeridoo in Drenched BLuff! 


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 20, 2010, 02:28:46 pm
*Hasn't got Sky* =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on May 21, 2010, 03:27:43 pm
You should. the new dungeons are nice (Sky Peak is unique), the Sky Jukebox is nice, and the Special Episodes are fun.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 22, 2010, 07:57:51 am
I would if I could; I've wanted it since last year sometime. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: lionytai on May 22, 2010, 10:18:53 pm
Question:

How many pokemons are there in total?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on March 24, 2011, 08:39:30 pm
649 pokemon as of generation 5 games (black and white)

pokemondb.net is my fav site for list of pokemon
serebii.net for info on everything else


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 24, 2011, 08:42:15 pm
I found the six sages...is there anything left? Looker mentioned N, but...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 24, 2011, 08:49:24 pm
Battle Subway. =p


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 24, 2011, 08:55:55 pm
Is N there? Or do you just want to see me get beaten up by a Lv 5 Magikarp? =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 24, 2011, 08:58:39 pm
Nah; I just want you to get beaten up by a level 50 Magikarp. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on March 24, 2011, 09:11:19 pm
beat cynthia? watch the youtube vid of her being beat by six level ones


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 25, 2011, 12:38:17 pm
Still training. =P Been busy with Goldeneye.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 25, 2011, 02:32:52 pm
*Is very disappointed in Black and White's post-game mode*


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 25, 2011, 02:34:27 pm
It's still better than Diamond and Pearl's. =P

Besides; they went all out on the main story, can you blame them? =p


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 25, 2011, 03:01:50 pm
I'm just hoping for a better one in Grey. =P
But normal story was awesome.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 25, 2011, 03:11:48 pm
Well, what do you expect? Epic Ghetsis versus N showdown? They'll likely save that for any future sequels. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on March 25, 2011, 03:36:08 pm
Yes, that is pretty much what I expected. Or at least SOME sense of closure for N.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 25, 2011, 04:19:57 pm
They're likely leaving it open in case they pull a GSC. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on March 26, 2011, 01:27:02 am
Beat alder at 31 hrs 58 minutes in my white game. Pretty good considering I went EVERYWHERES


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 29, 2011, 03:03:20 pm
How is it that everyone's getting the story finished hours before I did? xP


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on March 29, 2011, 03:29:45 pm
Well, see, to beat the second elite four, I caught kyurem and that volcarano(sp?) and then tmd kyurem shadow ball and psychic, and used the bug moves against dark and phsyic. Super easy XP


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 29, 2011, 03:34:36 pm
You already beat the second E4? =O


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on March 29, 2011, 08:25:02 pm
yeah, at 31:58


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Wantija$$$ on April 23, 2011, 12:43:05 pm
Right now I'm at Ghetis. And because of him, I officially hate Hydregons now. Like it's faster than all of my pokemon. My only pokemon that can do somthing against it is my Conkeldurr. Conkeldurr's hammer arm gets it down to half hp, then I die because Conkeldurr is too slow >_>


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 23, 2011, 02:03:10 pm
Use ice attacks against the Hydreigon; just don't use ice type Pokemon if you can help it. ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Wantija$$$ on April 23, 2011, 05:57:45 pm
Well my SurfDudete (Simipour, it's a girl :P) knows blizzard, but it never hits. Funny thing is my Simipour can survive Hydregons dragon pules


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 23, 2011, 06:03:59 pm
Give her Ice Beam. =P Blizzard's got higher attack, but it doesn't have good accuracy. Ice Beam would help in this situation.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Wantija$$$ on April 23, 2011, 07:20:03 pm
Ice beam is only available after the E4 so I can't get it yet. Unless you'd want to teach it ice beam via trade :P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 24, 2011, 10:29:33 am
Hmm; I thought it was available in one of the stores?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Wantija$$$ on April 24, 2011, 03:26:40 pm
Well, no need for dealing with Ghetis any more, I got a crit with hammer arm against Hydregon. The rest of his team is a push-over, really.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 24, 2011, 03:30:44 pm
Yeah; Hydreigon's his strongest Pokemon. =P

Good job, though. =)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on April 24, 2011, 06:48:20 pm
Anyone willing to trade a Rufflet for my Vullaby?
My code is 0261-0523-3673.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Wantija$$$ on April 24, 2011, 07:27:20 pm
Anyone willing to trade a Rufflet for my Vullaby?
My code is 0261-0523-3673.
I have one, it's level 36 and impish natured. My FC is 0690-4568-2226. Want it to know any moves in particular?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on April 24, 2011, 07:35:56 pm
I just need it for the Pokedex.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Wantija$$$ on April 24, 2011, 07:49:34 pm
I just need it for the Pokedex.
Ok, I'm online now just so you know


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on April 24, 2011, 07:50:39 pm
I'm online too. But, I've never done a Wi-Fi trade before. how do I do it?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on April 24, 2011, 07:53:56 pm
I beat ghetsis first try, both times XP


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Wantija$$$ on April 24, 2011, 07:57:48 pm
I'm online too. But, I've never done a Wi-Fi trade before. how do I do it?
Well (if you haven't, add me on your pal pad). Then seek a trade. I should appear in the room, or if im already in the room, talk to me and we'll start the trade.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on April 24, 2011, 07:58:55 pm
Union Room? Wi-Fi Club?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Wantija$$$ on April 24, 2011, 08:00:10 pm
Go into the Wi-Fi club. Then follow the steps in my post.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on April 24, 2011, 08:01:25 pm
Coming.

EDIT: I'm here.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Wantija$$$ on April 24, 2011, 08:04:59 pm
Alright, hosting a trade. Talk to me.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on April 24, 2011, 08:06:30 pm
Thanks for the trade! Now I have almost all Unova Pokemon....


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on April 25, 2011, 11:06:39 pm
What you be missing?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on April 26, 2011, 12:24:22 pm
 
  • Galvantula
  • Ferrothorn
  • Lampent
  • Zweilous
  • Larvesta
  • Thundurus
  • Landorus

(These are the ones that I haven't seen OR caught. The list of ones I've seen but not caught is much bigger)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on April 26, 2011, 12:29:46 pm
Ive already seen all of em. If I remember, you actually cant see any of those first 5 without just leveling/breeding. For the 2 legendaries, find somebody who has pokemon white and willing to trade to get landorus for both of you(I already have all 3 since I played through both games)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 26, 2011, 04:35:19 pm
GD: You get Larvesta from the egg that guy nicely just hands you. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Wantija$$$ on April 26, 2011, 05:13:20 pm
Ive already seen all of em. If I remember, you actually cant see any of those first 5 without just leveling/breeding. For the 2 legendaries, find somebody who has pokemon white and willing to trade to get landorus for both of you(I already have all 3 since I played through both games)

You can find Galvantula by fighting a trainer by surfing outside the Dragon Spiral Tower


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on April 26, 2011, 05:18:00 pm
Thanks, I'll head there now.
Also, I am seeking a White Version Pokemon that knows Charge.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Wantija$$$ on April 26, 2011, 05:55:59 pm
How do you get earthquake? Serebii says it's in the relic castle, but I can't seem to find it :/ And has anyone tried battle subway random online yet?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 26, 2011, 06:41:51 pm
You have to go into the maze. ;) It's that item you see in the alternate entrance, but can't get to. =P

I've tried pretty much all the online modes; but things are stalling, as I've been putting off breeding a good Gible. =/


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on April 26, 2011, 09:18:09 pm
@blade: I never saw no guy w/ an egg. I just bred it. And earthquake was a pain to find, cuz you cant find it at the beginning of the game


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 27, 2011, 01:55:18 pm
*Points at Route 17/18* It's the ranger guy in the hut. ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on April 27, 2011, 03:17:04 pm
I'm trying to get access to unity tower. I need to trade with someone from the UK next.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Wantija$$$ on April 27, 2011, 08:39:44 pm
Random poll because I'm bored: How do like the dream world? I find it very addictive despite its simplicity. 


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on April 27, 2011, 08:41:15 pm
I would like it, but it's way too buggy. (I keep getting "invalid access" messages and the text keeps switching to Japanese).


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 28, 2011, 03:40:47 pm
Truth: Don't multi-task on the Global Link site then. =P That's the only time you get those messages, I pretty much tested it. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on April 28, 2011, 04:44:19 pm
Anyone have an emolga, or an emolga egg? Only pokemon Im missing from 5th gen that I cant get by leveling


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on April 28, 2011, 04:54:07 pm
Get a Boldore and trade it to the Hiker on the route above Mistralton. ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on April 28, 2011, 05:51:24 pm
OOOOk. Thanks man. After that, all Ill be missing is castform, mew, the 4 regis, jirachi, deoxys, and then the last 6 from the gen 4 pokedex


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 07, 2011, 11:23:02 am
I think that Castform's seen on a trainer somewhere, but don't quote me on that. ^^;


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on May 07, 2011, 10:11:00 pm
AWWW BROTHER YESSSSS

Zekrom - Hasty
HP: 0 - 1
Att: 31
Def: 24 - 25
SpA: 10 - 11
SpD: 26 - 27
Speed: 30 - 31

Nature isn't the best, but it works. =D

@Truth - You can find Lampent by battling a Waiter in the Route 9 Department Store.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on May 08, 2011, 02:03:03 am
Anyone wanna breed me a castform and feebas?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 08, 2011, 08:51:38 am
AWWW BROTHER YESSSSS

Zekrom - Hasty
HP: 0 - 1
Att: 31
Def: 24 - 25
SpA: 10 - 11
SpD: 26 - 27
Speed: 30 - 31

Nature isn't the best, but it works. =D

@Truth - You can find Lampent by battling a Waiter in the Route 9 Department Store.

Oh sweet. =O That is pretty good. =O

GD: If I can find time to start playing Black again. =P Apparently breeding Gible can make you put off playing. ::)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on May 08, 2011, 09:59:42 pm
Lol dont be lazy  ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 09, 2011, 01:40:55 pm
Not being lazy, I think other things, like other games being obtained, played into that too. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 15, 2011, 09:59:16 am
I think I might've posted this before, but...

Soooo...Pokemon tournament...anyway going? I think I'll try it, there's one fairly close to me.

I've already got a fully EV trained Excadrill; I was thinking I'd run a Landorus/Excadrill team, Landorus sets up Sandstorm, which boosts its power and makes Excadrill pretty much un-outspeedable, then Excadrill uses Swords Dance; boom, nigh-unstoppable sweeper team.

I also want to fit Volcarona in there somewhere, but whatever. :P

Which reminds me: Does anyone have a Tornadus I could borrow for a day or two? =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 15, 2011, 10:01:59 am
I'm not, unfortunately. There's none that I know of near me. ... Besides; I still need to start playing that again, other games are distracting me. D=


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: LordVaderRulez on May 23, 2011, 09:59:54 pm
lol, I'm coming into this topic very inexperienced so I probably sound quite ignorant, but I'm working over the summer to make some money so I can buy a 3DS and as I soon as I do, I plan on buying Black and White alongside it. I haven't played Pokemon for years, last one I played was Ruby (or something like that) so I'm curious about what I should know about the gameplay and plot. Can anyone help me out?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on May 23, 2011, 11:30:05 pm
I think I might've posted this before, but...

Soooo...Pokemon tournament...anyway going? I think I'll try it, there's one fairly close to me.

I've already got a fully EV trained Excadrill; I was thinking I'd run a Landorus/Excadrill team, Landorus sets up Sandstorm, which boosts its power and makes Excadrill pretty much un-outspeedable, then Excadrill uses Swords Dance; boom, nigh-unstoppable sweeper team.

I also want to fit Volcarona in there somewhere, but whatever. :P

Which reminds me: Does anyone have a Tornadus I could borrow for a day or two? =P
Why would you not just start hippowdon or tyranitar? Sand stream it...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Wantija$$$ on May 25, 2011, 09:42:22 pm
Anyone know a good physical sceptile (sp?) moveset for ingame? My serperior isn't doing a good job right now at defeating stuff.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on May 26, 2011, 01:24:59 am
Try Swords Dance, Leaf Blade, Earthquake.  For your fourth move, you have three options.  You could try Rock Slide to take down Bug types and Flying types (not to mention the 30% flinch chance), you could try X-Scissor to take out other Grass-types, or you could try Substitute.  With Substitute, you can stick a Liechi or Salac Berry on Sceptile, then use Substitute repeatedly to trigger Overgrow and the berry; combine that with several turns of Swords Dance and suddenly Leaf Blade becomes insanely powerful.

Yeah, I've been looking at the starters for RSE, so I know which one I'll get when I start playing.  This infor is based on the Serebii PotW guide.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on May 26, 2011, 10:25:56 am
I think I might've posted this before, but...

Soooo...Pokemon tournament...anyway going? I think I'll try it, there's one fairly close to me.

I've already got a fully EV trained Excadrill; I was thinking I'd run a Landorus/Excadrill team, Landorus sets up Sandstorm, which boosts its power and makes Excadrill pretty much un-outspeedable, then Excadrill uses Swords Dance; boom, nigh-unstoppable sweeper team.

I also want to fit Volcarona in there somewhere, but whatever. :P

Which reminds me: Does anyone have a Tornadus I could borrow for a day or two? =P
Why would you not just start hippowdon or tyranitar? Sand stream it...

Because you can only use Pokemon from the B/W 'Dex. :P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on May 26, 2011, 03:58:55 pm
I think I might've posted this before, but...

Soooo...Pokemon tournament...anyway going? I think I'll try it, there's one fairly close to me.

I've already got a fully EV trained Excadrill; I was thinking I'd run a Landorus/Excadrill team, Landorus sets up Sandstorm, which boosts its power and makes Excadrill pretty much un-outspeedable, then Excadrill uses Swords Dance; boom, nigh-unstoppable sweeper team.

I also want to fit Volcarona in there somewhere, but whatever. :P

Which reminds me: Does anyone have a Tornadus I could borrow for a day or two? =P
Why would you not just start hippowdon or tyranitar? Sand stream it...

Because you can only use Pokemon from the B/W 'Dex. :P
What kinda tourney is this?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on May 26, 2011, 04:48:16 pm
I'm training my FireRed team for Final Four, and I need to get everything to Level 60.  Where's a good place to train:

Electabuzz Lv. 51
Butterfree Lv. 36
Blastoise Lv. 44
Kadabra Lv. 48
Pidgeot Lv. 38
Dewgong Lv. 34

Note that Pidgeot and Dewgong are currently living in my PC, to make room for my HM slaves.  I don't really care about EVs, I just want to clobber these guys with elemental attacks, and I need a place that will level up my mons quick.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 28, 2011, 11:20:08 am
I think I might've posted this before, but...

Soooo...Pokemon tournament...anyway going? I think I'll try it, there's one fairly close to me.

I've already got a fully EV trained Excadrill; I was thinking I'd run a Landorus/Excadrill team, Landorus sets up Sandstorm, which boosts its power and makes Excadrill pretty much un-outspeedable, then Excadrill uses Swords Dance; boom, nigh-unstoppable sweeper team.

I also want to fit Volcarona in there somewhere, but whatever. :P

Which reminds me: Does anyone have a Tornadus I could borrow for a day or two? =P
Why would you not just start hippowdon or tyranitar? Sand stream it...

Because you can only use Pokemon from the B/W 'Dex. :P
What kinda tourney is this?

VGC 2011, if it's the one I think it is. They only allow Unovan Pokemon for some reason, and the battles are Double Battles.

/EDIT:

lol, I'm coming into this topic very inexperienced so I probably sound quite ignorant, but I'm working over the summer to make some money so I can buy a 3DS and as I soon as I do, I plan on buying Black and White alongside it. I haven't played Pokemon for years, last one I played was Ruby (or something like that) so I'm curious about what I should know about the gameplay and plot. Can anyone help me out?

Gameplay hasn't changed all that much... Basic things to keep in mind: More items. More Pokemon. Special and Physical aren't based off elements, but on the actual attacks. There are now Triple and Rotation Battles. Given that this is two generations from RSE, that's pretty tame. Though... I might be missing some things. ^^;

As for story; you're in for an awesome one. RSE's is barebones by a long shot compared to this; but I won't say anything more, as it's too awesome to spoil. You're better going into it unawares, though either way it's awesome. =)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Canama on May 29, 2011, 01:37:01 pm
I think I might've posted this before, but...

Soooo...Pokemon tournament...anyway going? I think I'll try it, there's one fairly close to me.

I've already got a fully EV trained Excadrill; I was thinking I'd run a Landorus/Excadrill team, Landorus sets up Sandstorm, which boosts its power and makes Excadrill pretty much un-outspeedable, then Excadrill uses Swords Dance; boom, nigh-unstoppable sweeper team.

I also want to fit Volcarona in there somewhere, but whatever. :P

Which reminds me: Does anyone have a Tornadus I could borrow for a day or two? =P
Why would you not just start hippowdon or tyranitar? Sand stream it...

Because you can only use Pokemon from the B/W 'Dex. :P
What kinda tourney is this?

VGC 2011, if it's the one I think it is. They only allow Unovan Pokemon for some reason, and the battles are Double Battles.

/EDIT:

lol, I'm coming into this topic very inexperienced so I probably sound quite ignorant, but I'm working over the summer to make some money so I can buy a 3DS and as I soon as I do, I plan on buying Black and White alongside it. I haven't played Pokemon for years, last one I played was Ruby (or something like that) so I'm curious about what I should know about the gameplay and plot. Can anyone help me out?

Gameplay hasn't changed all that much... Basic things to keep in mind: More items. More Pokemon. Special and Physical aren't based off elements, but on the actual attacks. There are now Triple and Rotation Battles. Given that this is two generations from RSE, that's pretty tame. Though... I might be missing some things. ^^;

As for story; you're in for an awesome one. RSE's is barebones by a long shot compared to this; but I won't say anything more, as it's too awesome to spoil. You're better going into it unawares, though either way it's awesome. =)
It's not a deep plot or anything, but it's better than the average Pokemon game.

And there were a few awesome moments. Plus, it gives us the second-most-evil villain in a Pokemon game.

-Canama


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 29, 2011, 01:40:30 pm
Well yeah; it's not a movie storyline, or even something like Mystery Dungeon or so, but it's the best storyline in the main series so far.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on May 29, 2011, 05:06:20 pm
I just wish B&W had bothered to actually have an ending for the story...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 29, 2011, 05:09:40 pm
Technically it did, aside from a returning character disappearing off on his own.

However, all that allows the first true sequel since Gold and Silver to happen.

Unless Grey decides to put more stuff in. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on May 29, 2011, 05:10:09 pm
I heard that Nintendo says they're not planning on a third.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 29, 2011, 05:13:43 pm
::) They never said that directly. If you hear they did, it was a mistranslation, last I checked.

And given that they're revealing a new game whenever some magazines get their act together and actually decide when they're revealing said details... I'd expect either RS Remakes or Gray to be appearing soon.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on May 30, 2011, 11:55:18 pm
Yeah I definitely need/want ruby sapphire and emerald. I need those regis


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 31, 2011, 08:33:46 am
Technically if you had that event Regigigas from before Platinum, then you could get all the Regis in Platinum... =/


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on May 31, 2011, 10:35:36 pm
Yes, I have an event regigigas from like, Japan XP


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: korchi12 on June 01, 2011, 01:47:09 am
Anybody have a pokemon with an active pokerus virus? It would be a lot easier to ev train with pokerus...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 01, 2011, 09:41:11 am
GD: That'd likely work then, if you have Plat. =P

Korchi: I do, but still haven't touched Black much; been busy with other games. *Pushes Ratchet and Clank out of view*


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: korchi12 on June 01, 2011, 10:33:52 am
Ah well that's a shame... Haha which ratchet and clank?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 01, 2011, 10:39:39 am
RC2. =P Going Commando. Very good game; and I got it for a very good price. ^_^

But yeah, it is a shame. =/ I'll try to get back to playing Black during the summer, hopefully.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on June 01, 2011, 10:02:31 pm
right now Im trying to get palkia. Man going back to 4th gen is annoying


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 02, 2011, 08:45:41 am
Yeah; so slow after playing Gen 5. =/


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Wantija$$$ on June 02, 2011, 04:27:36 pm
...I find HG/SS to be faster than B/W...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on June 02, 2011, 04:35:04 pm
Sure feels like it to me. The animations and battles are much slower paced


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: korchi12 on June 03, 2011, 03:41:31 pm
I tried playing emerald the other day but got bored, the battle animation is extremely slow compared to the new games...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on June 03, 2011, 11:58:18 pm
I feel the same. Im struggling through Pearl for Palkia but MAN it's annoying


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Wantija$$$ on June 04, 2011, 09:14:44 pm
The only reason why I think HG/SS is faster than B/W is because it's atmosphere is so relaxed and the bike theme is AMAZING. But B/W is faster in the leveling up department. I just raised a Treeko (sp?) to a Sceptile (sp?) and it's level 52 right now (under 3 hours, I love the new EXP system).

EDIT: I just find the over-world to be faster and I feel the bike's handling is alot better as well as it feeling slightly faster


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on June 04, 2011, 11:22:39 pm
It took me almost an hour to level up a gabite into a garchomp today on heartgold. It takes like no time at all in black and white


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: korchi12 on June 05, 2011, 12:40:54 am
Great day for pokemon today. I got a tympole with pokerus and infected a TON of my pokemon, which means a ton of EV training...-_- Got a modest porygon and turned it into a porygon Z. And got a shiny feebas which I evolved into shiny milotic.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on June 05, 2011, 08:47:59 am
How do you make your pokemon dream? If theyre asleep already. I dont understand!

And can anybody breed me a castform? It's like, the only non event pokemon Im missing


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: korchi12 on June 05, 2011, 02:24:09 pm
How do you make your pokemon dream? If theyre asleep already. I dont understand!

And can anybody breed me a castform? It's like, the only non event pokemon Im missing

I was wondering the same thing, and I think I can get you a castform if you want.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on June 05, 2011, 05:30:03 pm
Like. I want the stupid dreamworld ability. But it isn't dreaming...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Wantija$$$ on June 05, 2011, 09:24:22 pm
If a pokemon's dreaming, it allows you to go to the dream world. Every pokemon you encounter in the DW has their special ability. So putting a  asleep and having it dream won't make it have it's DW ability. Hope that makes sence.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on June 05, 2011, 09:36:16 pm
No but how do you get it to dream in the first place??


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Wantija$$$ on June 05, 2011, 09:41:50 pm
Have you made a pokemon.com account? If you have, then just turn on the C-Gear, go to online and then Game Sync. Select a pokemon and yeah, that's it.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: korchi12 on June 05, 2011, 09:58:19 pm
It never works for me. I waited like 4 hours for it to start dreaming and it never did so I gave up...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Wantija$$$ on June 05, 2011, 10:07:51 pm
It's probably because the DW server is packed. If it's taking a long time then reset and try again. Usually works for me...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on June 05, 2011, 11:50:46 pm
Must be pretty packed. Cuz it has been sleeping forever...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 06, 2011, 07:59:45 am
GD: You did go to the Dream World, right? =P But if you're having slight problems, then pull it out of sleeping state, wait the day, and try again. Should work then.

Granted; I haven't used the Dream World for a few weeks now...

/EDIT: Oh, and HGSS is way slower. =P Compare the bike's speed to the one in HGSS; along with everything but running. Even Running might be slightly faster. =P

But Battle speeds are pretty much set to FF x4 or so; a command, a move, a command, a move, you're back to the menu in a second or two. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on June 06, 2011, 03:32:28 pm
The text speed is 10x faster dude. I can breeze through it no prob. In HGSS it was so annoying seeing the same words over and over


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 07, 2011, 01:44:38 pm
I never disagreed with you. =P In fact, I pretty much said the same thing. xD


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on June 07, 2011, 11:06:50 pm
Lol ik you did. But you forgot the text speed


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 08, 2011, 07:45:31 am
True. =P But yeah; both in-battle and out of battle, it's waaaaay faster than HGSS. In fact, if you go to the weird place that talks about the Entralink in B/W, and talk to the old lady without holding down/pressing A... That's roughly the speed of HGSS's text.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on June 08, 2011, 11:03:06 am
Lol. I always tap A now cuz I finished the game. So Idc what people say, I've heard it before. Now I just gotta breed 100 transferred pokes. But theres like, no room in the pc....


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on June 08, 2011, 03:53:34 pm
Yargh...I'm training my VGC 2011 team at the last minute, and I have a dilemma. I was planning to lead with Jellicent and Ferrothorn (the latter setting up Sandstorm for mah Excadrill), but now I'm worried about leading with two Defensive/Stall-oriented Pokemon in an offense-oriented tournament. The idea was Jellicent would bleed off any opposing Pokemon, while Ferrothorn set up Sandstorm and subsequently Spikes (breeding Spikes into a Ferroseed was not fun :P) and do the same. In particular, this would keep Rapid Spinners in check, since their only option would be attacking Ferrothorn, from whom they would take damage by Iron Barbs.

The problem is, this strategy depends on one of those two going down within the duration of the Sandstorm, and once it ends, Excadrill's in trouble. I want to still lead with Ferro/Jellicent, but that would require me to revise my Sandstorm strategy or remove Exca entirely, which I can't really afford to do.

ADVICE? =P And no, Landorus isn't really an option...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 11, 2011, 10:06:54 am
It doesn't have Sandstorm support, but what about Golurk? It wouldn't take damage from sandstorm, and is generally a hard-hitting Pokemon, from my understanding.

I don't have a moveset for it, however.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Wantija$$$ on June 11, 2011, 09:22:37 pm
Not sure if the tournament's still on but you could try Archeops or Krookodile. They can hit hard and (I think) have a good variety of moves. Also, Archeops@Flying gem+ Acrobatics is a devastating combo.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on June 12, 2011, 09:09:54 am
I had a good plan, I thought, but I just had to miss the tournament because I wasn't nearly prepared. =/ At least I know to start earlier next year =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 12, 2011, 10:23:31 am
Dang. =/ Well; hopefully next year will be better. =) I've been missing a lot myself, since I'm still hung up on the breeding of my Gible... And the fact that BZP is down. =/


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Wantija$$$ on June 16, 2011, 10:08:24 pm
Team advice, anyone? (It's my ingame team, nothing competitive)

Sceptile Lv 53 @Miracle seed
EQ
Rock slide
Leaf blade
Swords dance

Galvantula Lv 55 @ Expert Belt
Thunder
Signal beam
Energy ball
Toxic

Krookodile Lv 54 @ Soft sand
Brick break
Dragon claw
EQ
Crunch

Simipour Lv 53 @ Mistic water
Grass knot
Crunch
Ice beam
Surf

Conkeldurr Lv 52 @ Scope lens
Bulk up
Strength (filler move)
Stone edge
Hammer arm

Chandelure Lv 56 @ Spell tag
Energy ball
Flamethrower
Shadow ball
Hidden power (pretty sure it's dark, idk about it's power though)

As you can see, I lack a flyer and I feel like replacing Simipour and Conkeldurr. Thoughts?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 17, 2011, 09:47:45 am
I'm assuming your starter's Smugleaf?

I'm recommend, to replace your water type, Samurott... But that's depending on your starter, and what you have access to.

To replace Conkeldurr, put in something like one of the version exclusive psychics, or another one.

Additionally, I'd recommend replacing Galvantula with Eelektross, but I'm not sure if you'd want to take the effort required to get it's best moves. =P The rest seem pretty good, however... I'm not sure if a physical Scpetile is the best. Haven't looked at base stats recently, but I had thought Sceptile was special orientated.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Wantija$$$ on June 17, 2011, 12:41:34 pm
I did start off with Smugleaf, so no Samurott for me (I don't even like them anyways).

The version exclusive are too slow for my liking, I was thinking of Meinshao for replacing Conkeldurr.

Galvantula isn't going any where, he'll always be my Fuzzels :3 (plus my little brother already has an Electross, I wouldn't want to 'copy' him).

My Treeko happened to be jolly nature, that's why it's physically oriented.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 17, 2011, 12:51:39 pm
1. You might not like Samurott, but there's no denying it's attack stats are very high.

2. I was going to suggest Mienshao, but I wasn't sure if you'd want to replace a pure fighting type with another pure fighting type. =)

3. Alright then. =P I would recommend adding an Air Balloon as the item, for fighting in places where there's no chance of losing the item.(Like the battle facilities or wireless battles)

4. Alright then.

5. As a replacement for Simipour; I would recommend training up an Axew into a Haxorus. It might not have a water-type move; but since you say that your bro has an Eelektross; you can use Mold Breaker against him to take the Eelektross down with an Earthquake. ;) Unless he has a Haxorus already. Then I'm not sure what Mold Breaker you'd want to use.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Wantija$$$ on June 17, 2011, 01:28:47 pm
Yeah I guess I could use a Haxorus, but it's gonna replace Conkeldurr.

Any fast powerful surfing pokemon you know of?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 17, 2011, 01:39:59 pm
Not really... If I'm taking into account only Black and White. I think there are some from previous gens, but I'd have to think about that. =/


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on June 29, 2011, 10:05:57 pm
@Blade - You only won because you broke Evasion Clause (Gothitelle w/ Flash*) =P

EDIT: *I'm not sure if accuracy-lowering moves count towards Evasion clause... I really dunno...
EDIT2: I only won before because you have had a Bibarel that was lagging you down on your Platinum... >_O

But I will admit, I haven't battled in a long time, and my skills are pretty rusty. Also, I don't have much experience w/ 3 vs. 3.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Wantija$$$ on June 29, 2011, 10:23:17 pm
Hey B~T, do you still want the Celebii from my HG?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 30, 2011, 08:28:46 am
B~T: Hey; I only used it once on purpose. The second time was an attempt to stall out of the battle so I could switch to Darmanitan. xP

But yeah, let's call it even. =P

2. To be honest? I haven't battled for fun, yet competitively, for quite a while. I've battled competitively, but not against any forum members. =P So I was likely rusty myself. Plus, I'm still getting used to 3 on 3 myself. It was only luck that I fainted two of your Pokemon before we got DCed. =P

To anyone: That being said; if anyone would like to battle, I'm accepting battles... On Black and White. That's important, since that's where all my good Pokemon are now. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on June 30, 2011, 03:10:01 pm
When I said 3 vs. 3, I meant Single battles using only three Pokemon.

And I went to the DW again. I went to someone's house, and someone had a Rayquaza. It scared the heck out of me for a sec. V_V"

I dislike how you can only take one Pokemon at a time to the Entralink. Must've been done to prevent server issues or something.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 30, 2011, 03:18:36 pm
Ah, that makes sense then. =P

Nice. xD

Yeah, I don't get that, because I've seen pics where there's multiple Pokemon in the Entralink... So I don't think it was like that for the Japanese games...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on July 01, 2011, 10:26:56 am
I just beat the Subway Master 1st visit. He only gives 10 BP instead of the accustomed 20... >_>

Also, I had a close encounter once. There was a Simisear left, and all I had left was my Scolipede. It survived a Rock Slide... with 7 HP left. I won in the end tho. And there was this Alomomola who walled like my entire team... >_>


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 01, 2011, 10:28:58 am
1. That's because that's only 'easy mode'. Go beat the Super line and we'll talk again. =P

2. Yeah, you need to rely on luck in the Battle Facilities. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on July 01, 2011, 10:34:05 am
I only went to the Gear Station to gather up BP so I could buy a Power Anklet...

... For my first breeding project in B/W. ^_^


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 01, 2011, 10:36:39 am
Well, either way, you'll know what I'm talking about after that. =P

I still need to get around to training one of the Gible I think is the best I have.

Slightly off topic; I love how your quotes seem to make sense; even though they're a year and a half apart. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: korchi12 on July 02, 2011, 12:35:10 am
I just beat the Subway Master 1st visit. He only gives 10 BP instead of the accustomed 20... >_>

Also, I had a close encounter once. There was a Simisear left, and all I had left was my Scolipede. It survived a Rock Slide... with 7 HP left. I won in the end tho. And there was this Alomomola who walled like my entire team... >_>

Yeah I was surprised after finishing the double trains and only getting 10 BP. Kind of a let down =(


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 02, 2011, 06:23:31 am
Again; that's only Easy mode. Your typical Single/Double/Multi Battle Facilities are in the 'Super' lines. ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: korchi12 on July 02, 2011, 04:21:55 pm
Again; that's only Easy mode. Your typical Single/Double/Multi Battle Facilities are in the 'Super' lines. ;)

Yeah I'll have to try those out sometime. I need a good challenge =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 02, 2011, 04:30:20 pm
The Super lines are more of what we know, rather than the normal lines are. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: korchi12 on July 02, 2011, 04:54:11 pm
Yeah, I found the easy lines to be a pushover. Almost like it should be called a novice line or something.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 02, 2011, 04:57:56 pm
Likely for people to farm BP off of, if they can't win against the Super Lines. =P Since the cheating Battle Tower is a common complaint in Gen 4. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: korchi12 on July 02, 2011, 06:01:28 pm
Yeah I guess so. Ugh the battle tower -_-


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 02, 2011, 06:20:53 pm
Yeah, that was a pain...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on July 02, 2011, 06:37:26 pm
It is, however, funny to see what the game does to hax other people's teams. =P

It is, however, not funny to see what the game does to hax your team. =P

I think I read somewhere that the higher streaks you have, the game is programmed to make teams that counter your entered team. Also, the game is programmed to manipulate accuracy, secondary effects, etc. to the opponent's favor as you go up. I dunno where I read that, but to me, it seems true.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 02, 2011, 07:11:26 pm
1/2. Agreed. =P

3. That sounds about right... Now, if they would at least let us defeat the bosses before that kicked in... ::)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: korchi12 on July 02, 2011, 07:48:13 pm
It is, however, funny to see what the game does to hax other people's teams. =P

It is, however, not funny to see what the game does to hax your team. =P

I think I read somewhere that the higher streaks you have, the game is programmed to make teams that counter your entered team. Also, the game is programmed to manipulate accuracy, secondary effects, etc. to the opponent's favor as you go up. I dunno where I read that, but to me, it seems true.

I wouldn't doubt it. From my experiences it seems attacks just don't land as much when you get a high streak going.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on July 05, 2011, 09:30:26 pm
Okay guys, I need help on EV Training a certain Pokemon.

I just hatched a good Deino, and I want to EV Train it to be a Mixed sweeper. Thing is, I don't know a good EV Spread for it in order to function best.

Based on what I have seen, someone recommended a Lonely 252 Attack/4 Sp. Attack/252 Speed Spread, but my Deino's Naive. Thus, I reworked the EVs to suit to recommended stat spread, and I calculated 252 Attack/110 Sp. Attack/148 Speed. 148 Speed matches a Neutral Nature Hydreigon with Max Speed. The rest of the EVs are relegated to the Special Attack of the Deino.

My question is, is 252 Atk/110 SpA/148 Spd a good spread for a Mixed Sweeper/Wallbreaker? Or do you guys know of a better EV Spread?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 06, 2011, 09:05:57 am
That might work... What are the moves on this Deino going to be?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: korchi12 on July 06, 2011, 09:13:52 am
Okay guys, I need help on EV Training a certain Pokemon.

I just hatched a good Deino, and I want to EV Train it to be a Mixed sweeper. Thing is, I don't know a good EV Spread for it in order to function best.

Based on what I have seen, someone recommended a Lonely 252 Attack/4 Sp. Attack/252 Speed Spread, but my Deino's Naive. Thus, I reworked the EVs to suit to recommended stat spread, and I calculated 252 Attack/110 Sp. Attack/148 Speed. 148 Speed matches a Neutral Nature Hydreigon with Max Speed. The rest of the EVs are relegated to the Special Attack of the Deino.

My question is, is 252 Atk/110 SpA/148 Spd a good spread for a Mixed Sweeper/Wallbreaker? Or do you guys know of a better EV Spread?

With mine I gave it 252 in SpA instead of attack.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on July 06, 2011, 09:36:22 am
That might work... What are the moves on this Deino going to be?

Moves:
Outrage
Crunch
Flamethrower/Fire Blast
Draco Meteor

Yes, mixed. I cannot get Dark Pulse because I do not have 2 DSes to transfer an Arbok or something with Dark Pulse.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 06, 2011, 10:08:36 am
B~T: Hmm... *Gets sudden idea* >=P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on July 06, 2011, 12:09:20 pm
What? Your Bibarel with its Super Effective Rock Smash attack can counter it? =P

Doesn't mean I'm going to use Hydreigon in my competitive team...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 06, 2011, 12:12:29 pm
No, that I could transfer over an Arbok that has Dark Pulse and trade it to you. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on July 06, 2011, 05:44:25 pm
Yeah... I can't trust you because your router's a potato. =P

I'm not sure if it can be done since we have issues connecting with each other last time...
And it would be much better if the Arbok in question had the right IVs as well... which may be a while to get.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: korchi12 on July 07, 2011, 02:16:16 am
I kinda wish they had made it easier to get dark pulse in Gen V...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Wantija$$$ on July 07, 2011, 07:44:09 am
Hopefully in the third version they'll add move tutors of all the TM moves they replaced in the transition from gen IV to gen V...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 07, 2011, 08:26:34 am
Yeah... I can't trust you because your router's a potato. =P

I'm not sure if it can be done since we have issues connecting with each other last time...
And it would be much better if the Arbok in question had the right IVs as well... which may be a while to get.
You mean yours? =P

Yeah... =/ Well it was an idea. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on July 07, 2011, 02:18:14 pm
Nah, my router's a chicken. =P

I dunno if I am able to get a 3DS on my birthday, which is this coming week, so... I'll have to see. I really don't want a Special attacker Hydreigon at this moment, and I think I'm aiming for another Pokemon.

Oh, and guys, what's your opinion on Pokesav? Y'know, Pokesav is a program that allows you to create any Pokemon with any moveset with any stats. Some competitive battlers use it to create their EV-Trained Pokemon with legal movesets and stats.

In my opinion, I don't use Pokesav because:
1. I don't know how to use it
2. I don't want to potentially corrupt my save file
3. I don't want another program on my computer

However, if someone else uses Pokesav and battles me, I don't mind, as long as the Pokemon created can be obtained legally within the game's boundaries. So, if someone battles me with their Wonder Guard Spiritomb with 999 in every stat, then I disconnect.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 07, 2011, 02:23:12 pm
My opinion on Pokesav is the same as yours. =P

And if your router's a chicken, that might explain things. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Wantija$$$ on July 07, 2011, 02:26:34 pm
I have same opinion on PokeSav as you two. But PokeSav is kinda obsolete now. There's sites that allow you to create your pokemon and send it to your game via GTS (I've never used it though).


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 07, 2011, 02:28:23 pm
I've heard of that one, figure it's what some people use, though others use those kinda programs to just clone legit Pokemon in Gen 5.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: korchi12 on July 08, 2011, 09:33:01 am
Yeah I don't really mind pokesav. I just view it as a lazy way to obtain pokemon. I do mind however if, as BT said, they have unnatural stats(999 in every lot). Btw the new system is called pokegen. Its easier to use apparently and more practical.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on July 10, 2011, 01:56:26 pm
I think I just fixed my Wi-Fi... =D

I also added a WEP key to my router to add security to it. However, I dunno how my other family members are going to react to it... =/





Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 10, 2011, 02:30:34 pm
Well if it stops crashing every two minutes, they might thank you. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on July 10, 2011, 05:45:27 pm
No, a WEP key does not just apply to only Wi-Fi; it applies to everything the router does in general. The WEP key is basically a password to protect your router so that only you and your family can access the connection.

What I am concerned about is that someone else is using the same router for his or her internet, and I dunno if it is necessary to configure it for his or her laptop... He/She might complain at me for "tampering" with the router when I was just trying to protect it...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 10, 2011, 06:00:40 pm
I meant you fixing the router. ::)

Besides; it's not like WEP keys are that big a deal, really.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: mtmerrick on July 14, 2011, 03:10:09 am
Hey guys!

http://www.mlno.org/index.php/topic,7086.0.html

latest post, input please?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on July 19, 2011, 01:11:32 am
Seen: 634
Obtained: 633(I fought a trainer's castform)
How many more I can legitimately get: 0
Curse the last 15


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on July 19, 2011, 05:20:54 pm
Dream World Fail:

When I was scooping ice cream for a Corsola on the last second, and when time's up, the entire tower of ice cream comes collapsing down to less than 20 in. >_<


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 19, 2011, 05:27:07 pm
... Quick question, and I mean quick since I'm running outta time...

Do you need to do a Minigame to get that Eeveelution?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on July 20, 2011, 09:09:08 pm
Once you completed the Arkanoid game on Pokemon.com, you go to the promotions page on the PGL website and then you just find the Eeveelution...

It's probably too late since I came on... lol


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 21, 2011, 08:41:11 am
Way too late. =P

And you just find it? Was it random? or did it just appear? If it just appeared... Then dang. -_-;


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on July 21, 2011, 09:58:11 am
I believe you had to play a minigame of sorts...

You basically are given a screen, and you have to find a shaking area and click it, indicating that the Eeveelution is there...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 21, 2011, 10:03:13 am
I see. Well, either way, I'm not getting it now. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on July 21, 2011, 01:17:32 pm
I couldn't really figure it out before it was too late XP

Ugh I hate pokemon ranger... so much


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 31, 2011, 12:56:17 pm
Gonna do some Dream World stuff; see if I can't get some more Dream Points.

And I need to update to activate my C-Gear skin; so... =P

I'm also gonna hopefully start training my Gible now, as well.

Also; while I was gone, I trained my Lilligant to Level 100, and upgraded my Entree to the point where I have all the Pass Powers. Just gotta figure out how to finish upgrading my trainer card with the other stuff(That's not Battle Subway related), and I'll get to doing that.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on August 06, 2011, 03:59:50 pm
Who can you have check your national dex in white? Juniper only looks at the local dex...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 06, 2011, 04:00:43 pm
Juniper Senior. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on August 06, 2011, 04:26:11 pm
blarg but where he at yo?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 06, 2011, 04:30:11 pm
Head about 10 to 15 steps to the right. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on August 07, 2011, 08:15:19 am
Lol I dont remember him being there at all


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 07, 2011, 08:49:34 am
He moves in after you get the National Dex. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on August 07, 2011, 12:49:44 pm
Lol. I beat the story sooooo long ago I dont remember that kinda **** anymore


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 07, 2011, 02:13:29 pm
I guess that makes sense. =P

/EDIT: Ooh.

Level 55 Audino(Or so)
Lucky Egg
A Traded Pokemon
EXP +++ Pass Power
Level 1 Ghost Type with Toxic.

Can anyone say over a million EXP? =P You'd be like level 30 after that one battle. xD


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Shiloh7 on August 11, 2011, 09:21:08 am
The Audino that can be battled in the domes of Nimbasa City is lv 65 and would give off more EXP, but lv 55 is still great.


Anyone here collect/play Pokemon TCG?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 11, 2011, 09:24:01 am
Wait; what Audino? I haven't run into any of those yet... I think I might have to go there more often. =P(Though it wouldn't be as feasible a farming option, since you'd only face one. =/ Though; with the proper situation, you might only need one. =P)

I have a couple cards, but I don't play it IRL. It is fun though, based off what I've played in stuff like the TCG video game, and that online thing they have out now.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Shiloh7 on August 11, 2011, 09:27:22 am
The Doctor or Nurse that is battle-able in the domes every so often has one. Yes, it's not as good as multiple lv 55 Audino, but it is fun to level up a newly hatched egg 35 levels.

I mostly collect cards (mostly cause I have no one to play aginst) but the online play might change that. I just recently got back into it and ended up with 2 of the full card art Zekrom, but no Reshiram


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 11, 2011, 09:28:27 am
1. Yeah, I agree. xD

2. Ooh, sweet. Those two part cards look really interesting.

And yeah; though it depends on how it works.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on August 11, 2011, 04:24:06 pm
Well, they aren't two part cards, just cards where the artwork covers the entire card.

Hopefully the online play is decent to good.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 12, 2011, 07:15:23 am
Oh; there are full art cards that aren't like the LEGEND cards? Interesting.

We'll see. =P Hopefully you can get cards without having to buy them IRL; otherwise I'll be restricted. =P But yeah.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on August 12, 2011, 07:57:15 am
1: Yep. They're new from the BW expansions, but they're just basic cards with full art. Unfortunately they aren't special besides that- they're rare- but they have the same attacks and stuff as the usual (non full art) card counterparts.

2: I've read that you get codes from packs and pre-built decks that you enter online, but hopefully you can play minigames or something to earn cards as well.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 12, 2011, 08:25:36 am
1. Well, I figured it was from the new expansions, but didn't know other than that. =P

2. Yeah... They keep giving me cards in the current game, but seeing as they haven't updated it to allow deck editing, last I checked, I can't use those. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on August 12, 2011, 09:06:56 am
I believe the first codes that get released are in the second BW expansion, which comes out August 30th... (although the decks come out the 17th) so maybe then deck editing will be allowed... hopefully.

But then I'd have to learn how to actually play (I know the basics, but I've never battled using the energy costs and stuff like that...)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 12, 2011, 09:09:49 am
You could ask me; though I only know from the GB TCG game, and the little I've played of the Online game. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on August 12, 2011, 12:07:33 pm
Ok, so has anyone actually beaten a super line yet?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 12, 2011, 01:07:30 pm
I haven't. Been trying to own people on the Random Wi-Fi Battles. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on August 12, 2011, 04:14:41 pm
By Super line do you mean 7 battles or a subway master (or whatever they call those people)? I've gotten about 16-18 wins on the Super Double Line, which is the only one I play. I used a Sandtsorm team of Tyranitar, Terrakion, Excadrill and either Scizor or Dragonite as the last member.

I wish they had triple and rotation battles in the subway (the next version better have that)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 12, 2011, 04:20:43 pm
If you mean beat, I think he meant the two Subway Boss wins(Since you need two on the Super line on both Single and Double to get the Trainer Card Upgrade).

If he means just the first time you face the boss on the Super Line, then my bad. =P

I haven't done either, though, just unlocked Super Single. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on August 12, 2011, 04:37:32 pm
Okay, I haven't beaten a Subway Boss (other than the regular line, which isn't very hard). I keep coming up to a trainer that either gets a critical hit on my last pokemon, or a team full of dragons (I should probably get a Garchomp to counter them...)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on August 12, 2011, 11:02:51 pm
Yeah I meant super lines, that 49th win to get the trainer card upgrade. Right now Im on like 19 wins on the super single line


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 13, 2011, 08:34:14 am
Do you need that on both, or just one of the lines? I don't know if that was ever clarified or not.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on August 13, 2011, 03:50:09 pm
You need the 49 streak on both lines


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 13, 2011, 03:55:59 pm
Figured. >_> That's gonna be... interesting.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on August 13, 2011, 04:43:31 pm
Yeah... I dont even know how to get the entralink powers or those musical items and ****


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 13, 2011, 05:00:15 pm
Entralink powers you need another person to do(I myself had a chance to do the missions a couple weeks ago. =))

However; the musical items are annoying; I'm just missing one, to my knowledge(Up to five); but I have no clue how to obtain the one(s) that I'm missing. =/


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on August 13, 2011, 06:44:14 pm
By another person, would my other ds and my other game work? XP

Yeah neither do I. All I know is which items there are


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 14, 2011, 08:52:21 am
1. If it's Black or White(I don't know if you need White exclusively or not, but I doubt it); then that'll work perfectly. And you can do both games at the same time. =P

2. Same here... I think I'm only missing the Tiara, but do you think anyone has a list of how and where to get the items? >_> I want to get this over with soon, because the only reason I started that side-quest was for the Trainer Card upgrade...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on August 14, 2011, 05:12:08 pm
Well, I beat the story of black. Besides that, havent really done much of anything. Right now I am too lazy to actually try to do anything in black, as my pokedex in white is 641 and in black, around 100. Naaaah

And I have the list... I just dont know how to get them at all. I cant find that info


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 14, 2011, 05:25:01 pm
Musical items: Same here... I would've expected at least a FAQ about the Musical in general; but not even that. You'd think with the game being out in English for about 4 or 5 months, and the game being out period for almost a year, that someone would know something about the specifics of getting the items. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on August 15, 2011, 06:32:14 pm
Yeah I mean, serebii usually has everything. But all they have is a list....


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 15, 2011, 06:35:01 pm
Yeah; I was surprised by that too... =/


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on August 15, 2011, 07:02:22 pm
Use the Bulbapedia, Luke...

*realizes I have no idea if BP has that page...*

*realizes I know nothing about BW*

*failz*  :P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 15, 2011, 07:11:08 pm
Bulbapedia nearly killed my computer... Forgive me if I don't use it anytime soon. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on August 15, 2011, 08:46:20 pm
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_Musical

click it! click it!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 15, 2011, 08:48:41 pm
If it has info that we could use, I'd rather you copy/paste that info... I'm not taking a chance on running into that stupid ad with that stupid virus again... =/


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: mtmerrick on August 16, 2011, 12:34:59 am
Bulbapedia nearly killed my computer... Forgive me if I don't use it anytime soon. =P
Accidentally clicked this topic, but i saw this and had to post.

use. an. adblocker.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 16, 2011, 10:38:40 am
MTM: I know, I know. D= I'm really considering it, so that no ads can kill my comp.

But in my defense, having one on my profile wouldn't have done much, since it wasn't my profile that I was on when the ad nearly killed my comp. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on August 16, 2011, 06:01:29 pm
Lol the ads on that site never do anything to my comp


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 16, 2011, 06:06:56 pm
Well one of them did something to mine. =/ Drive-By Downloaded something...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: mtmerrick on August 16, 2011, 07:17:42 pm
MTM: I know, I know. D= I'm really considering it, so that no ads can kill my comp.

But in my defense, having one on my profile wouldn't have done much, since it wasn't my profile that I was on when the ad nearly killed my comp. =P
huh? you mean user account?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 16, 2011, 07:19:34 pm
Yeah, wasn't my account. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: mtmerrick on August 16, 2011, 07:23:22 pm
well, whatever account you were on should've been using FF or chome, with an adblocker. if it wasn't, the person's stupid :P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 16, 2011, 07:26:26 pm
Was using Firefox; but no adblock, simply because it didn't seem necessary... the person who uses it a) doesn't get on the computer much. =P, and b) doesn't really use it for sites with ads. I was only using it to kill time and quickly check for news. Bad idea. >_^


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: mtmerrick on August 16, 2011, 07:28:28 pm
every improperly equipped computer i visit i leave a browser behind :P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 16, 2011, 07:30:24 pm
=P I'll likely get to putting adblocker on certain stuff eventually. Wanna get to putting it on this profile first.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: mtmerrick on August 16, 2011, 07:40:01 pm
smart move, get on it.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on August 19, 2011, 02:05:54 pm
Why must it be so hard to get good dreamworld pokemon? Rawr!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 19, 2011, 03:07:37 pm
Because you need to complete impossible mini-games. -_-


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on August 19, 2011, 10:36:45 pm
I hate mini games! I just want abilites


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 20, 2011, 07:54:06 am
I agree. =/ And then they make it so that Ditto isn't an uber transferer of Abilities, apparently. Dunno if it's just because it was hacked or what.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on August 21, 2011, 01:15:07 am
Yeah that's kinda dumb. You'd think they wouldn't make it so hard on people that don't just pokesav it


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 21, 2011, 09:20:03 am
I guess it might be because of Ditto's genderless status, but still...

'Course; we won't know for certain until Ditto is officially released. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Mahri828 on August 21, 2011, 11:48:01 am
 Guys, guys. Wasn't Ditto released when Pokemon came out? =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 21, 2011, 11:50:38 am
Yes, we're talking about it's new ability... And whether or not it can pass said new ability to everything else once it's obtained legitimately. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Mahri828 on August 21, 2011, 11:52:04 am
 What's Ditto's new ability?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 21, 2011, 11:56:31 am
Allows it to transform into another Pokemon... Before even using a move. Send it out? It transforms automatically.

Plus, since it's a Dream World Ability, theoretically you could pass it down to anything else. But, that seemingly doesn't work, according to those who have already hacked one... =/


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Mahri828 on August 21, 2011, 11:58:51 am
 So Ditto is actually good now?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 21, 2011, 12:00:34 pm
Basically a Zoroark that actually takes on attacks, and doesn't get knocked out of the transformation. =P

However; whether it's good or not, that's still up for debate. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Mahri828 on August 21, 2011, 12:01:00 pm
 But it's still way better than the originol I take it?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 21, 2011, 12:01:43 pm
Yes, yes it is. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Mahri828 on August 21, 2011, 12:03:29 pm
 I remember trying to fight the elite four with a ditto that was level 100... it was still hard. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 21, 2011, 12:04:41 pm
Yeah, good luck with that. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Mahri828 on August 21, 2011, 12:06:52 pm
 I now use LV 100 Tyranitar, Dragonite, Ho-Oh, Mewtwo, Lugio, and/or LV 100 Jolteon or Pikachu. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 21, 2011, 12:09:43 pm
Good for you. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Mahri828 on August 21, 2011, 12:11:57 pm
 Of course, the newest Pokemon game I have is Pokemon Crystal, so you could imagine that I've had a bit of time to play it. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 21, 2011, 12:15:01 pm
Yes. =P I imagine you've be lost in Gen 5. Too much new stuff. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Mahri828 on August 21, 2011, 12:15:54 pm
 I would be completely lost. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 21, 2011, 12:17:35 pm
Yep. =P

On the bright side, you can run, so you don't have to take an hour to walk everywhere. =P

I'd recommend HGSS first, though, regardless of Gen 5. Familiarize yourself with HGSS, and then immediately move to Black/White after you beat that. ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Mahri828 on August 21, 2011, 12:18:21 pm
 If I get the chance, I will. =P I hated walking in Pokemon, I forgot about that. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 21, 2011, 12:22:38 pm
Well, Gen 4/5 isn't too much faster, for some reason(Gen 3 was awesome in that respect. D=); but it's still faster than walking in R/G/B/Y/G/S/C. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on August 21, 2011, 11:55:51 pm
No see, gen 3 was fast. Then diamond/pearl/plat were like, uber slow. HGSS were reasonable. But in black and white, if the text is on fast and you tap "A", it goes at the speed I want. Since by now, the text no longer matters to me


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on August 22, 2011, 08:29:36 am
Gen 3 was sooo good. I want to see a remake, but they'd have to make it amazing for it to stand up to RSE.

I played HG again the other day and I actually do not like that game. The only redeeming quality is the pokemon that walk behind you, and an awesome Machamp Sprite (though unanimated). After playing White all of my gen 4 games seem dull. Emerald is still fun to pull out though, simply because I can clone stuff and send Masterballs to Plat and catch legendaries with good natures. Its too bad you can't send items to Black and White. Beating the subways over and over again, only to lose at like 25 battles, trying to get points for items is rediculous.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 22, 2011, 08:49:02 am
GD: Text speed doesn't matter, BW's is near instantaneous. =P I'm talking about walking/running speed. =P

ZLS 1: I like RSE; and I do expect a remake set in the next little while. The Gameboy Advance games are near unplayable now, as Nintendo did everything in their power to lock them out from the DS Lite onward; not to mention finding them... And given that apparently the 3DS VC won't have any link capabilities(Which is fail for games like the Pokemon series); there's no way for them to willingly put up the games, and go 'okay, there, you got your RSE games; you happy now?'; without huge fan uproar. So they more or less have to remake RSE, if not in the next little while, during Generation 6, which is more or less likely to still be on the 3DS, due to how they handled Black and White.

ZLS 2: SoulSilver isn't that bad, but it is noticeably slower, and I likely wouldn't play it now for that reason, unless I reset my games and go for attempted completion again like I did for the GBA games. And given I have two DS systems now, that makes things way easier. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on August 22, 2011, 09:03:39 am
As long as you have a DS Lite or the original DS you can use the RSE games, but you have to transfer them to a DPPtHGSS game and then move them to a BW game. But it is quite annoying (just did it a few days ago).
If they do a remake on the 3DS I'll have to buy one... luckily the price is being dropped soon.

I just don't like them that much because the elite four round one has you at level 50 max. And the sprites aren't animated. And the story wasn't great (though it was a remake...) It would have been cooler if you could battle all 16 gyms before the E4, so that you'd be at level 65-75ish when you battle the E4... plus rebattling the gym leaders takes way more effort than in Platinum.

If they make a pokemon grey it better have gym leader rebattles platinum style, a better subway system, a storyline focused around Kyurem (whether or not it gets a new form. If it does it'll be Giratina all over again). It would also be nice to see Keldeo have a side story revolving around catching the three musketeers and then searching for Keldeo. And the Abyssal ruins should be better explained.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 22, 2011, 09:18:20 am
Psst, ZLS, the price already dropped. It's been dropped for about a week now. =P

Well, that's the way it was in the originals... And I believe some of the gyms even got a level boost! The Gym Rebattles are annoying, I'll give you that... However, it was the same way in Emerald, more or less. ;)

Platinum-style battles would be interesting; but I don't think it should be restricted to randomly maybe having 4 Leaders... It should have a maximum of something, but a static max. And maybe being able to fight them over and over on the same day, like HGSS allowed.

A better Subway system would be nice; but the only thing that they haven't done for that is add in Frontier features; and that's better off on it's own.

A Kyurem Storyline is all but confirmed for Grey; and that's not even confirmed yet. xD

Keldeo having a Side Story... Only way I see that happening is if there's a ticket that requires you to have all three Musketeers; since it's an event Pokemon... Much as it'd be awesome. =/

Abyssal Ruins should definitely be explained; but... Well, side areas like that haven't been explained much; look at the Regi areas in RSE or the Stone Tower in D/P/P... =/


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on August 23, 2011, 08:25:54 am
1: Oh. Well, that's good. I don't have any money though. Maybe Christmas or sometime I'll get it (or when a game that interests me comes out for the 3DS I'll buy it)

2: Yeah, they did follow the originals, but it would still be cool to fight an elite four that has pokemon higher than lv 50 on the first go through, especially with 16 gyms in the game. The post elite four story seems so rushed. There isn't really a story at all, its just 8 extra gym battles.
2b: But in emerald you could just call them whenever (if they had the pokeball icon beside their name). In HGSS you have to remeber or write down the time to call, which I never bothered with.

3: That would be good. I just don't want to have to find 8 gym leaders randomly all over the place and then call them. Also, new games must have rebattles with NPCs. (although black and white have the sport domes)

4:Frontier or a subway with triple/rotation battles. But and emerald frontier, not platinum.

5: I think the only thing not officially cnfirmed is grey being called grey.

6:I hate event pokemon. The three that they made for gen5 aren't even that amazing. Keldeo is obviously a fourth member to the 3 muskees, Genesect would be awesome to battle (as part of team plasma, since they upgraded it) and Meloetta is just strange. It just seems to be an extra that Nintendo didn't have room for...

7: But the Regi thing was easy enough to understand. Even with online translations of the giberish in the ruins, as well as getting all of those items from within, there isn't anything to grasp and understand.
7b: What is the stone tower?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 23, 2011, 08:38:14 am
1. Be sure to get OoT 3D when you get the 3DS, however. =D

2. Again, it was just pulling from the original. =P But yeah; I would've liked an actual story for the HGSS postgame, but I think everyone had bailed after finishing the main story to go work on Black/White. =P
2b. Or look it up on Serebii. =P But true; however... I'm sure if R/S/E had the time of day stuff, they'd have found some way to mess with it like HGSS did. =P

3. Yes, for both. -_-; Where the heck was the versus seeker? The item that the fans liked the most, because it allowed continuous rematches, has been absent from the last two sets of games... =/

4. Subway having the new types of battles I wouldn't mind a bit; they were really underused in the main game. =/ However, for the Frontier, I actually wouldn't mind a mix of the two... Like the Battle Hall was pretty cool, if a little frustrating when you got up in the ranks and was OHKO'd. =P But two are standard. I would not mind an Emerald Frontier, though; Emerald's Frontier was awesome. =D

5. Well, they've said they're making more games this year, but usually we'd have heard word of what Grey is bringing by now; if it was getting released. They haven't even touched on if there'll be a third version, though it's plain and obvious. =P Grey's the most likely one, though. Black, White, and Grey. The Monochrome Generation.

6. Yeah; Genesect would've been awesome. Heh, who knows, maybe Ghetsis will have tons of stuff like Genesect when you fight him either during the story or post-story in Grey... Seeing as we have no clue if they'll expand the post story in Grey. =P Meloetta's cool though, but is obviously simply the Mew clone, however unfortunate that is. =/ Still want her, though. =P

7. But; who were these people? Why did they lock the Regis away? Stuff like that hasn't been answered yet, though I will agree that there's more unanswered things in the Abyssal Ruins. =P Like, why are the Arceus Plates down there?
7a. Spiritomb's tower. I'm sure there's a more mysterious place in D/P/Pt, but I just thought of that off the top of my head. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on August 23, 2011, 09:50:25 am
1: Yes, Zelda. Forgot about that.
2: RSE was smart and wouldn't have done something silly like that (I hope)
3:HGSS had that silly phone thing that people called you on. But the Vs Seeker is infinitely better.
4: Frontier should have:
-Battle Tower/Subway (obligatory- it gives you the awesome status if you beat it)(this should have single, double, triple, rotation, wi-fi and partner settings, and a lv 50 or 100 option)
-Battle Pyramid from emerald (because exploring a pyramid was amazing)
-Battle Dome from emerald (where there were 16 contestants and you played through in a bracket system. That was cool)
-Battle Hall because it was cool to use just Porygon-Z or some other pokemon
-Battle Factory because it allows you to use anything (which can be frustrating at times
-A contest Hall because that's where one would fit in
-A pokeathlon because those minigames were amusing.
5: It would be funny if they named in something outrageous like Shining Pink Quartz just to be completely different from the simple BW
6: Ghetsis needs better pokemon, and Genesect would be cool. Meleoetta seems like a good idea, but it seems like it needs more work. Or they could just give it to every single musician in Unova and give the player simple battles against its two forms. Zorua and Zoroark should also be added for the player to obtain easily (but not too easily.)
7: I guess so. But weren't they locked away to prevent Regigigas from doing anything else? I dunno. The abyssal ruins writing doesn't even make that much sense though. The regi stuff, from what I remember, talked about how to do everything to get the Regis.
7b: Oh. Spiritomb is just weird. And hard to get with no people to communicate with on the DS. DPPt has the Snowpoint Temple with the regi king himself. And Turnback cave...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 23, 2011, 10:03:28 am
1. Yeah, awesome game. =D

2. *Take two steps* RING RING RING *Forced pop up* *Close pop up* *Take two more steps* RING RING RING *Another forced pop up* =P

3. I have to agree. But at least the phone was better than the last two times it was in a Pokemon game. (See above)

4. a) Yes, for sure.
b) Again, for sure, that was awesome.
c) YES. Needs to happen; I missed it in Platinum, and really, they could've added two more stadiums to fight in. =/
d) Yeah, I agree there.
e) All but confirmed; since the Factory's in everything. =P
f) I dunno, I wouldn't be opposed, but it seems like it'd fit better in the RSE remakes... Isshu has the Music Hall, which while it isn't as good as contests and serves more as an easier way to get another card upgrade; seems to be something Nintendo likely won't get rid of. =/
g) I'm honestly scratching my head as to why it was only in HGSS. =P However, if they bring it back, I hope they add Wi-Fi compatibility, but given that they don't seem to like Wi-Fi stuff(That's not add ons like the Vs Recorder stuff) that doesn't focus on battling, I doubt it unfortunately... =/
5. Pokemon Rainbow. =P Pokemon Chrome would be interesting, though, if they went that route while keeping to they 'grey' theme.
6. Yeah, he does. But his Hydreigon still wiped the floor with me(And my levels were fairly even too. =/); so I'm not sure if inviting a laser bug bot to the party would be fun. =P However, if N actually helped you this time...(Aside from simply tossing six full restores/max revives your way =P) Then things would be different. =P

7. Given that Regigigas hadn't been created yet... =P As for the Ruins' writing, I have no clue what it says... Haven't gone through it all the way yet.
7b. I agree; though now that I have a second DS, that'll be easier to get to. =P Good point about the Snowpoint temple though. Turnback Cave isn't as big a mystery, since they expanded on that with Platinum, as it's more or less a connecting place to the Distortion World. As for why it's like that; who knows... =/


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on August 23, 2011, 11:53:27 am
2: It wasn't *that* bad. Maybe I just don't remember it as well though.

4f: well, musical in grey, contests in RSE remake. or both?
4g: probably because GS didn't have anything originally, and HGSS just loved to make use of the touch screen.

5: pokemon rainbow would be funny, and chrome would be cool, although Google might not like it...

6: I don't think I had a problem with N or Ghetsis. I believe my Simipour was lv 57 though, and knew Crunch, Work Up, Acrobatics and Surf, and my Gurdurr was pretty strong, so Hydreigon wasn't too bad.

7: I thought Regigas created the three other regis? And unless you're in for a pretty much impossible challenge, just look up the words to the ruins, because they aren't really any language.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 23, 2011, 12:09:22 pm
2. No, but HGSS' was still better. =P

4f. Likely Musical in grey, and Contests in the Remakes...

4g. Which was why HGSS was so awesome. =P

5. xD Well, Google doesn't rule the world, so I'm sure they could do it. besides, Chrome is a colour(Or files in a browser), so Google wouldn't have a leg to stand on, even if they tried. =P

6. It was the Hydreigon's defenses and the fact that you more or less needed a OHKO Ice Beam. =P I didn't have that bad a problem myself, but he made me use a ton of my healing items. =P

7. He might have, but outside the game universe, he wasn't created until Gen 4. =P And yeah, I'm likely just gonna look up the stuff. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on August 23, 2011, 06:28:37 pm
2: I'm biased to Hoenn games

4f: probably

4g: I didn't like how much HGSS used the touchscreen, personally

5: probably.

6: OHKO ice beam, or a fighting attack

7:But in a remake he is already made and can be explained. And yes, I would advise looking it up, although that would be just to get to the top of the ruins andnot really to understand it. Its Nintendo's way to make fans specualte on mysteries of the pokemon world.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 29, 2011, 09:29:27 am
Would you like to see anything new added to the RSE remakes? I figure since we know nothing about them, and that remakes tend to add brand new mechanics, that it'd be fun to speculate a little. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on August 29, 2011, 03:53:49 pm
New as in completely new to the series? Pretty much, everything BW has (seasons, graphics (except the pixelated graphics of the battle)). Plus, ummm, an updated story including Gigas.
New starter options (ha ha)
New evolutions for some RSE pokemon (Mawile, Sableye, Zangoose, Seviper, Lunatone, Solrock, Plusle, Minum)
The island that you get Ho-oh/Lugia on become available (doubtful)
Character customization
The space station taking you to space and being able to catch deoxys/jirachi (which ever one was fabled to being able to be caught this way)
Castform storyline/possible evos/sandstorm form (this must happen.) Also, stat changes when it switches form, or rotom-like form change when it holds one of the weather rocks.
Groudon getting a decent ground attack and not fire and grass attacks that use his pitiful SpAtk stat
Updated Secret Bases (or even the exact same thing that was in RSE because that was cool)



Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 29, 2011, 04:02:40 pm
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New evolutions for some RSE pokemon (Mawile, Sableye, Zangoose, Seviper, Lunatone, Solrock, Plusle, Minum)
To be honest, that'd only happen if it was in Gen 6 it got remade. =/ But I'd like to see that... As long as they don't mess with Zangoose's awesomeness.

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The island that you get Ho-oh/Lugia on become available (doubtful)
That'd be cool, even if it only needed the ticket and said ticket was given over Wi-Fi. =D

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Castform storyline/possible evos/sandstorm form (this must happen.) Also, stat changes when it switches form, or rotom-like form change when it holds one of the weather rocks.

Again, unless they hold out the remakes for Gen 6, and evos are unlikely, but form changes are very possible, and would be cool.

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Groudon getting a decent ground attack and not fire and grass attacks that use his pitiful SpAtk stat
YES.

And yeah, new as in completely new.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on August 30, 2011, 08:37:42 am
1: Agreed.

2: I still need to work out Wi-Fi for myself, but that would be better than an event that you had to go to. Although with HGSS around I have access to Ho-oh and Lugia, so I'm fine for now (unless they get dream world abilities from the island)

3: An evo isn't even necessary, thinking about it now, but just a stat change for its forms to power up its average base 70 stats. Plat had form changes for Rotom that DP didn't have and you could still battle, so I think this is reasonable.


Also: a dragon evolution for Eevee, but this once again will only happen if RSE remakes happen during gen 6.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 30, 2011, 08:41:41 am
2. Well, actually, they've kinda stopped those kind of events, aside from getting it without wi-fi, or getting it earlier(Like the big event for Black and White that let you get the games two days early gave the Liberty Ticket at the same time). But yeah, same here, but it would be cool if they brought the island back, and allowed the peak and cavern to be accessed.

3. Yeah. The problem is, you likely wouldn't be able to battle online with them, but there wasn't any problem with that for Rotom; and he got new types out of it to boot. =P

4. Exactly. I'd bet it'd happen sometime next gen, unless they focus on Unova or a neighbouring region again.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on August 30, 2011, 09:38:23 am
I want them to re release some of the event exclusive pokemon. I needz them


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 30, 2011, 09:55:58 am
Same here, my Pokedex needs them!

... And the rest of the Pokemon I need to catch/evolve. >>;


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on August 30, 2011, 05:39:41 pm
With HG, DPPt and White I have access to almost all pokemon, except for Tornadus/Landorus, Reshiram, Goth line and the fire and grass starters  and event pokemon. I need to get wi-fi and they need to release Keldeo over wi-fi, because that's the only one from this gen that looks cool. Genesect is alright- basically a faster Scizor with Special Atk.

And yes, catching and evolving pokemon is tedious (especially if its pokemon you dislike (all those normal type birds and rodents)) and all you get is a diploma thing in return (and the knowledge that you've done it).


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on August 31, 2011, 11:05:08 pm
Well, my pokedex is at 641 seen and obtained :/. I can't do anything else to add to it


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 01, 2011, 06:29:10 am
Why do you have 5 Pokemon missing from the 646 Pokemon you could attain without Black and White's Event Legends? 0_o

There's 649 Pokemon in total(With Keldeo, Meloetta, and Genesect), but you can only obtain 646 right now because of the three I just mentioned. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on September 01, 2011, 08:38:34 am
Well, my pokedex is at 641 seen and obtained :/. I can't do anything else to add to it
Woah! I'm pretty sure my pokedex is still under 600 seen... What are you missing?

Also, Emerging Powers expansions came out yesterday. Each pack comes with codes for online booster packs... haven't tried it out yet, but seems slightly promising (with my luck I'll probably get a ton of rares online and nothing from the real cards...)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on September 01, 2011, 02:11:56 pm
Yes. Yes Ik. Mew, Jirachi, Deoxys, Darkrai, Shaymin. Missing those too :/


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 01, 2011, 02:46:34 pm
You going for living dex, or would a trade/tradeback suffice? =P </has all those, though I don't know if they're all on Black yet>


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on September 01, 2011, 02:55:01 pm
Well, eventually I'm hoping to have a living dex but I think a trade/tradeback would suffice if you'd be willing to


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 01, 2011, 03:06:10 pm
Give me a while to get back to playing Black and check to see if I have them all migrated already, and I'd be willing to.

Week at most. =) If I pass that date, just remind me. Shouldn't forget, though. =)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on September 01, 2011, 03:22:27 pm
Does a living dex require you to have all the different formes of pokemon as well? I guess there's no real rules, but with the extra boxes having the extra formes of Rotom, Giratina, Deoxys, Wormadam/Burmy, Basculin, Deerling/Sawsbuck etc. would be cool.



Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 01, 2011, 03:25:09 pm
ZLS: I've never really bothered with that, but I might try for that this time around.

Really limits how many boxes you have for breeding, however. Especially if you keep an Unown box. =/


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on September 01, 2011, 05:01:18 pm
Yeah I definitely don't have all forms and blah blah and such. My pc is full enough, and I put stuff in the remaining boxes when I breed


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 01, 2011, 06:13:54 pm
Slightly off that topic; looking back through the archives of DoaH, I see I foreshadowed Black and White...

The placeholder name for one of my characters before I revealed it was 'N'. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on September 06, 2011, 04:29:45 pm
@Blade: lol about N. and i forgot about all the unknowns...

Do the U.S. TRU events applicable to Canada as well? It'd be cool to get a Snarl Zoroark (any Zoroark really, but Snarl seems cool).


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 06, 2011, 04:35:09 pm
1. Yeah, it was funny. =P And yeah... I have the box full in B/W too; but given that I seem to have less of a 'plan' for the PC in Black, I'm not sure what to do with it...

2. No clue. Sometimes they are, sometimes they aren't. =/ I forget, do you have Wi-Fi, ZLS? I'm almost positive you've said whether or not you had it before, even recently, but I can't remember if I'm recalling Ddude before he got B/W, or you. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on September 07, 2011, 03:49:40 pm
Anyone want a shiny golurk w/ max hp, defense, attack, and sp def ivs? Brave natured


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 07, 2011, 03:50:38 pm
Did you get that yourself? =O That sounds like an amazing Golurk.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on September 07, 2011, 03:57:16 pm
Anyone want a shiny golurk w/ max hp, defense, attack, and sp def ivs? Brave natured
I would love even just a shiny Golurk, but (this also answers blade's question) I don't have proper wi-fi (DS lite doesn't support WPA)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 07, 2011, 04:05:27 pm
Ah, okay. Didn't know if you had a DSi or not, but now I remember the DS Lite being the reason you wanted the 3DS eventually since the price dropped.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on September 08, 2011, 12:14:17 am
Lol I can have unlimited of those golurks. Woop for awesomeness!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9ya8W_nHhE
Basically what you do is, you access the japanese event going on right now


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 08, 2011, 08:53:22 am
*Sees it involves the GTS* Ahhh... *Knowing nod*

The GTS Exploit. That explains everything, including the awesome IVs. =P Wonder if someone just got extremely lucky, or...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on September 08, 2011, 02:50:28 pm
No. previously it was arceus. And before that deoxys. Their names are japanese of course


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 08, 2011, 02:53:38 pm
Deoxys and Arceus haven't been given out for months...

just because their names are Japanese doesn't mean they're not hacked. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on September 08, 2011, 07:21:22 pm
Never said they weren't. But as far as I'm concerned, I'm just accessing the GTS XP


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 08, 2011, 07:22:34 pm
Well technically you are... Just not the official server, instead someone else's. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on September 08, 2011, 07:46:32 pm
Pretty much. And it's awesome!!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on September 09, 2011, 04:00:53 pm
Just finished my FireRed playthrough after, like, five months of not touching it. >_< I hate grinding...and I find most of the pre-Final 4 grind spots obnoxious.  Actually, I found FireRed in general obnoxious, and I really wish I would have realized that BEFORE I got to Celadon; if I'd caught it early enough, I would have done my run on LeafGreen, which has the Pokemon I actually like. >_<  Oh, well, I beat the Final 4 and my rival, and I did about 3/4 of the postgame stuff, so I won't feel guilty about moving on to Emerald and/or HGSS now.

Hey, can someone make a quick list of Pokemon that can't be caught using ONLY D/P/Pt, HG/SS, and B/W?  (Events don't matter.)  If that list contains too many Gen III Pokemon, then it's a good chance the remakes WILL occur.  And if that's the case, I'll just skip Emerald and wait for the remake, and go straight for HG or SS.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 09, 2011, 04:12:50 pm
All Kanto Pokemon are available with HGSS(Including Starters, and legendaries, sans Mew, but that was an event)

All Johto Pokemon are available with HGSS, aside from Celebi, which is event.

Most Hoenn Pokemon are available with a combination of three games, or at least HGSS(Including starters in HGSS). However, Regirock, Regice, and Registeel a not available at all within any of the Gen 4/5 games. And those few are all it takes, from the look of HGSS... There's Jirachi and Deoxys, but... That's obvious.

All Sinnoh Pokemon are available with D/P/Pt obviously. However, no Regigigas, unless you have the other three Regis, which aren't natively in the games unless you have the event Regigigas in Plat.(Though, you need an obvious combo of different games)

All Unova Pokemon are available with B/W, aside from those not yet released.

So in total... The only three non-events that can't be obtained using exclusively Gen 4/5 games... Are Gen 3 Pokemon. Hoenn Special Legends, to be precise. And given they're tied to the braille gimmick in R/S/E...

Also, good job on FireRed, I'm playing through it again, but the rare Pikachu is really hurting my progress... Again.(Did this last year too when I did all this to prepare for HGSS by recreating Adventures Red's team. =P)

The only problem is... I have no clue if only having FireRed will hurt me eventually, given I'm trying to get all the Adventures teams recreated.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on September 09, 2011, 04:17:14 pm
Don't you need an event to get Zorua/Zoroak as well as Victini?

Also, to get all the pokemon in HGSS (that is, Kanto and Johto pokemon) you'd need both versions.

But if you have wi-fi access all of this doesn't really matter from gen 4 onwards, as you can trade for everything except the 3 unreleased unova pokemon.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on September 09, 2011, 04:25:01 pm
How far are you?  Seriously, if you have access to LeafGreen, play it instead.  The vast majority of the pokemon you get in FireRed is stuff you've already seen in Platinum.  LeafGreen gives you:

*Title splash screen looks better
*Easy female Nidoran (for breeding purposes); that is, you can evolve a male nidoran from the in-game trade and don't have to worry about being able to breed from it later
*Staryu line (one of my favorite Gen I Pokemon, just from its Brawl appearance)
*Slowpoke line (again, one of my favs.)
*Sandshrew line (not necessarily a favorite, but one I've wanted to try out for a while now)
*Magmar line for easy egg hatching, although since that's postgame anyway it's not that big a deal.

The only things you miss out on are:
*Skarmory (which you can EASILY get in Platinum postgame)
*Bellossom (which is easy from HGSS)
*Scyther (which isn't that great until Gen IV, anyway)
*Electabuzz (Platinum)
*Qwilfish

I'll post a complete list of version exclusives in a second.

EDIT:
The following Pokémon are only obtainable in one game of this pair. In order to obtain Pokémon exclusive to the other game of this pair, they must be traded either from that game or from another compatible game of Generation III which has that Pokémon available. In addition, several Generation II Pokémon and a majority of Generation III Pokémon must be traded from a Hoenn-based game (Only two Generation III Pokémon, Azurill and Wynaut, can be obtained in FireRed and LeafGreen).

FireRed 
023    Ekans   
024    Arbok   
043    Oddish  
044    Gloom   
045    Vileplume 
182    Bellossom 
054    Psyduck  
055    Golduck   
058    Growlithe 
059    Arcanine 
090    Shellder 
091    Cloyster 
123    Scyther 
212    Scizor  
239    Elekid   
125    Electabuzz  
194    Wooper  
195    Quagsire 
198    Murkrow 
211    Qwilfish 
225    Delibird   
227    Skarmory 
386    Deoxys Attack Forme
 
 LeafGreen 
027    Sandshrew 
028    Sandslash 
037    Vulpix  
038    Ninetales   
069    Bellsprout  
070    Weepinbell 
071    Victreebel  
079    Slowpoke 
080    Slowbro  
199    Slowking 
120    Staryu   
121    Starmie  
240    Magby   
126    Magmar 
127    Pinsir  
298    Azurill 
183    Marill
184    Azumarill
200    Misdreavus
215    Sneasel 
223    Remoraid
224    Octillery
226    Mantine
386    Deoxys Defense Forme
 
Don't you need an event to get Zorua/Zoroak as well as Victini?

Also, to get all the pokemon in HGSS (that is, Kanto and Johto pokemon) you'd need both versions.

But if you have wi-fi access all of this doesn't really matter from gen 4 onwards, as you can trade for everything except the 3 unreleased unova pokemon.

True, I'm just doing the same calculations Nintendo is likely doing, to see if there needs to be a remake of Gen III or not.  If it seems like there's going to be a remake of R/S/E, then I'll skip them so the experience is new for me, and I'll just skip to HGSS. ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 09, 2011, 04:39:28 pm
ZLS: 1. Only if you haven't got access to one. If you have one, you can just breed it. =P

2. He was factoring that in, he just meant the Gen 4/5 games. =P

Flipz: snooping around in early Viridian Forest for a Female Mild Pikachu. =P

And I don't have access to LeafGreen, unfortunately. I'm missing that and Ruby... But LeafGreen is awesome(I regret the reason I used to get FireRed back when I got it... Should've gone for LeafGreen. =P), and if I had a chance, I'd get it. Though I'd need FireRed for the Green/Blue(Depending on which Translation you use... it's the rival/Gary. =P) team play-through. He uses a Scizor, so I could only use FireRed. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on September 09, 2011, 08:07:54 pm
Hey, any chance you could do it as a Let's Play?  As in, record the footage and record commentary as you play, add the commentary to the video, and post it?  Even if you can't do that with the physical FireRed...I'm sure you could run LeafGreen on an emulator and record it that way... ;)

So what do you think?  Should I move on to Emerald or HeartGold?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 10, 2011, 07:25:42 am
1. I could; but I don't have a good enough quality recorder, or a hosting account. Maybe when I start my Green play-through of FireRed, as that oughta make for some interesting commentary. =P

2. Heartgold. Natural progression from FireRed anyway, as it's the direct sequel. Plus the surprise boss at the very end would make it worth it too. =P

/EDIT: One other thing, about the play-through; one reason I'm hesitant for this is both that I already started, and also because I'd be resetting. A lot. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on September 10, 2011, 07:53:07 am
With every version of the DS after the DS lite (that is, DSi, DSiXL and 3DS) there is no GBA game slot, making remakes of RSE very likely, because most people who start with DPPtHGSSBW will have a DSi or better, and likely won't have RSE, so they need a way to make that region accessible, as well as certain pokemon from that to be available.

Emerald is my favourite pokemon game in the series, so its worth playing through (IMHO), but a remake is likely to appear in the future so if you don't want to know the story then skip it. (Although the story in each pokemon game is similar: young child gets pokemon and pokedex and is challenged with completeing pokedex and gym challenge. Child also gets riival and eventually gets mixed up in evil team plotting world domination of some sort. In the end its a happy ending. But each game has different twists. RSE was somewhat unique in this aspect.)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 10, 2011, 08:01:05 am
Well, I myself would recommend HGSS then Emerald; if only because that's logical progression(Since RGBY to GSC to RSE back in the old days).

But yeah, RSE Remakes are all but confirmed because of the little details, even if some people are just too stubborn to accept that fact.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on September 10, 2011, 02:27:06 pm
Yeah, I've been playing through chronologically, minus Platinum (since that got me into pokemon in the first place).  FR/LG actually take place at the same time as R/S/E, and likewise with D/P/PT and HG/SS.  I've already started an Emerald playthrough, though I'm taking it slow; I'm wandering around Hoenn Route 102 trying to get Seedot and Ralts, so I haven't even gotten to Petalburg Forest.  However...how long do you think it will take before the remakes are released?  Because if it's gonna be years down the line... :/


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 10, 2011, 02:38:50 pm
Flipz: Yeah, technically they do, from what we understand. I was meaning more of the transition, but it doesn't matter in the end. =P

As for the remakes... I'd say by next year for Japan, and early 2013 for us. Unless Grey's released first, then I'd expect it at the next the year after that.

And also, there's supposed to be a shocking announcement next week sometime. So, since that typically goes hand in hand with 'new game'... That would mean either Grey or the Remakes will be announced. And the only way they could get around the typical period of release...

Is doing a simultaneous release.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on September 10, 2011, 02:42:53 pm
OK, so here's what I'll do.  I'll spend the next week trying to catch a Seedot (preferably female, since I think Ditto is not in Hoenn) and Ralts, since that's how long it'll take, and then when the announcement comes out I'll realize the time was wasted and move on to HG. And then find out theres a remake of THAT coming out as well.  :P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 10, 2011, 02:50:00 pm
Nah, that's coming in gen 8. =P

But yeah, I'd try to catch those, and migrate them.

Though, I remember an in-game trade to get a seedot...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on September 10, 2011, 03:08:00 pm
Nah, that's coming in gen 8. =P

But yeah, I'd try to catch those, and migrate them.

Though, I remember an in-game trade to get a seedot...

Emulated.  Even if I could find an Emerald cart, my DS lite is having issues, so I couldn't play it on that, and I have no clue where my old GBA is anyway.  I'm just playing to experience it.  ;)  And there is an in-game trade...but guess what you need to get it?  That's right, Ralts.  Either way, I'm gonna be on Route 102 for a while. :P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 10, 2011, 03:12:23 pm
oic for all that.

I'd personally wait to find out what the game(s) are, first, though. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on September 11, 2011, 05:48:48 pm
if you're catching seedot/ralts for proper training purposes (ie: getting a good nature, egg moves, IV/EVs etc) I would suggestdoing that after a full playthrough, as getting properly trained pokemon during story mode doesn't work all that well.
also, the emerald battle frontier is cool, so i'd recommend playing through to get to that just in case remakes don't have the same battle frontier (that would ruin the games though).


BTW: if I got a 3DS, does that and pokemon white together support WPA encripted wi-fi? if so, that would be a reason to get it, as well as upcoming Mario games and Zelda games.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 11, 2011, 06:58:40 pm
ZLS: Yes, that and White together supports WPA Wi-Fi. DSi and up supports WPA, and since White's DSi enhanced, it takes advantage of that. ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on September 12, 2011, 01:10:52 pm
Well, I'm nostly getting Seedot because it has a unique type; a Grass-type that suddenly becomes immune to Psychic attacks?  Yes, please!  (Though to be fair, I'm judging from Platinum, since the psychic-type trainers there were obnoxious and in FR they were practically nonexistent, being replaced by obnoxious Poison-type trainers.)

And I did catch a Ralts, so once I finish the game I can breed from him with Ditto for training (thus the other reason for getting Seedot early: opportunities for breeding later).


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 12, 2011, 01:13:49 pm
Just wait'll you play Black and White... There's no more obnoxious Poison or psychic Pokemon Trainers(Well, not as many, at least. =P)... There're obnoxious bug types! =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on September 12, 2011, 01:27:41 pm
But the bug pokemon in BW are at their coolest level (scyther and scizor aside). Leavanny is one of my favourite pokemon from Gen 5. Terrakion, Krookodile and Golurk are the others.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 12, 2011, 02:45:46 pm
Yeah; I've gotta agree with that. Leavanny is on my list of Pokemon to try out whenever I do another Gen 5 playthrough, whether that be for Grey, or if I get White at any time, or so.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on September 13, 2011, 02:45:24 pm
Heeeey who wants to trade w/ me so I can get that second master ball?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on September 13, 2011, 03:27:54 pm
What do you need a second masterball for? Everything in BW can be caught quite easily. The only runner can be caught within 10 minutes at night if you have a pokemon with False Swipe, as you just go back and forth between a route and a city and wait for the weather to change.

I would trade with you, but I still have no wi-fi (working on it).

@Blade: Leavanny is cool in design, but really only has one set: Swords Dance, Slash/Return, Leaf Blade, X-Scissor. It's STABs aren't great, but the sword blade theme is cool (it would be awesome if it got Secret Sword).
If you get White or Grey(when its released) you should do a bug-themed run through with Leavanny, Scolipede, Accelgor, Escavalier, Galvantula and Volcorona. Usually a bug run through would be hard, but all six of these bugs are capable (Excavalier wants a better movepool, but still).


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 13, 2011, 03:31:08 pm
I might try it; and it'd basically be like my current playthrough of FireRed... Use Starter until I get Bug type; farm for EXP somehow; own people. =P

And yeah, but any usage of Leavanny would be ingame, so I'm not too worried. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on September 13, 2011, 03:34:26 pm
I plan to try a themed run through of some sort when Grey comes out. Either a bug theme or something else, like stage 3 pokemon, but only their second evolution stage (Fraxure, Zweilous, Boldore, Gurdurr, Palpitoad, starter).

Ingame would be fine, or battling in a tiered format where Leavanny could potentially shine.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 13, 2011, 03:36:52 pm
What would that be, NU? =P

Also, I found out how to get the last Musical item I need!

... Unfortunately, it seems like it'll be a looooooooooong while before that'll happen.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on September 13, 2011, 05:59:22 pm
NU or RU...

what item do you need, and how do you get it?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 13, 2011, 06:05:15 pm
I need the Tiara; and it's only available through a Musical match over local wireless. -_-; It's the only one I need for the trainer card upgrade.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on September 13, 2011, 06:22:21 pm
... that's unfortunate. I understand why Nintendo does this stuff, but I really wish that you could play through an entire game and unlock everything without resoting to wi-fi or local wireless...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 13, 2011, 06:25:22 pm
Well, they've been pretty good up to this point; as there is a reason not every Pokemon is in every version; but they seem to have gone out of their way this gen to make things inaccessible to those who don't have a friend with B/W right next door to you... With the Entralink(Though I was lucky there), and now the musical items.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on September 13, 2011, 08:03:11 pm
The reason is so that they can make 2 or more games, and make you interact, but with 1 game they'd sell just as many copies, I think... oh well.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 13, 2011, 08:10:00 pm
Ah, but then why would you trade with anyone? That's the whole thing; and given that it's a game that's made for Japan, where getting together in person is actually, you know, heard of... It makes sense that there are two versions, even though everyone wishes for only one version. ;)

/EDIT: THIS JUST IN! There is actually a giant robot underneath the Unovan regions. And I don't just mean Unova, I mean it's bordering places too.

What; you never wondered why there were so many bridges to and from central Unova? Or noticed that Castelia City is actually a right hand? ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on September 15, 2011, 04:24:31 pm
You'd trade because its easier to get a lv 100 pokemon that way... maybe. I was gonna say trade to evolve stuff like Machoke and Boldore, but that defeats the purpose of one game...


I see the right hand, but I don't follow everything else...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 16, 2011, 02:31:05 pm
1. Well, technically the combo EXP+++ pass power/Lucky Egg in B/W provides pretty much the same effect, but it definitely does help... And ironically, the first L100 Pokemon I have is my traded Lilligant. =P

Gonna have to try and get katie to L100 soon...

2. The right hand's connected to an arm. Follow Route 4 up until the split, and you'll see that it's connected to the upper reaches of Unova, but the right and left sections, including southern Unova(Where you start), are all disconnected to Central Unova.

I definitely suspect a giant Golurk. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on September 16, 2011, 04:36:38 pm
Where exactly did you hear this?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 16, 2011, 04:39:30 pm
Hear what? About the whole 'Central Unova is an arm' thing? Well, first it was a comment on another forum, however, I looked at a map, and sure enough, Castelia City looks like someone's right hand... And the routes above it look like an arm.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on September 16, 2011, 06:06:48 pm
So, I was leveling up a Wurmple so I could get my Beautifly and Dustox in the Pokedex quickly.  Then I run across a female Ralts.  Woot!  So I decide to check out the natures of my male and female Ralts.  My male Ralts is Modest with Synchronize, while the female is Jolly with Trace.  Their stats are identical, except the female has 1 more hit point and 1 more point of Attack (both are at Level 4).  So, here's my dillemma: which one should I train?  If I train the male, I'm obviously going to keep the female for breeding.  Which means finding another Ralts for the trade for Seedot.  Now that's not necessarily bad, as while looking for a spare Ralts I might find a Seedot (maybe even a female!), but if I decide to train the female, I'll likely trade away the male.  What do you all think I should do?  (Keep in mind, this is an on-cart Emerald playthrough, no Mystery Events, no trading with Ruby/Sapphire (possibly FR if I can figure out how to trade with VisualBoyAdvance), so a Psychic-type early in the game is a boon to me.)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 16, 2011, 06:13:23 pm
Keep the Male, Modest is awesome.

I would just keep searching; if you found two, you'll find a lot more. I know I did. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on September 16, 2011, 06:18:57 pm
Yeah, especially because I plan to get everything I have (except maybe my starter) evolved before I move on, a 5% encounter rate is not that bad.  OK, yeah, now that I looked up Natures again, Jolly is a TERRIBLE choice for a Ralts--it boosts speed, but lowers Sp. Attack (the Ralts family's most-used stat).  Modest, on the other hand, lowers Attack (a worthless stat for most Psychic-types) while boosting Sp. Attack.  Yeah, I'll just grab another Ralts and (hopefully!) find a female Seedot while I'm at it! *crosses fingers*


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 16, 2011, 06:25:41 pm
The only Ralts Chain member that could make use of Jolly, and since you aren't planning on migrating it to gen 4... Yeah, you're not getting any real use out of a Jolly Ralts. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on September 16, 2011, 06:36:28 pm
It doesn't even have Synchronize, which means I can't use it to nature-search for Jolly Pokemon of other species!  Yeah, if I can catch another female, it's gone. :P

BTW, any particular reason you haven't changed the calendar from the HG/SS release date?  Maybe you could put something like, I don't know, the Zoroark release event?

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6334989.html


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 16, 2011, 07:23:26 pm
Wait; I just realized; it's a female, it's of no use at all. =|

calendar stuff: I haven't updated anything regarding that. =P I believe I had B/W at one point, but that was pre-deletion, so... =P

However, it is an idea to actually update that thing. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on September 17, 2011, 12:53:09 am
Ugh. Lost battle 29 cause of a crit to my garchomp. Such ****. Would've swept that whole team w/ him


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 17, 2011, 06:29:28 am
That's the hax Subway for ya. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on September 17, 2011, 09:21:50 am
@Flipz: Modest w/ synchronize Ralts allows you a higher chance to catch modest pokemon- specifically a Modest Kyogre (although this doesn't really matter too much since you can't battle against other people and Kyogre isn't legal in the Battle Frontier...

I'm currentl replaying HGSS. I never realized how good Slowbro actually is until this playthrough. My E4 team was Typhlosion, Slowbro and Ampharos, as well as Ho-oh that I finally caught an Adamant version of.
Next up, catch a Slopoke and trade to get Slowking. Same with Seadra for Kingdra.

And yes, the Battle Subway is annoying. and filled with hax.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 17, 2011, 09:28:25 am
Hence it's name of the 'Hax Subway'. =P I need a better team if I'm ever gonna get anywhere there.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on September 17, 2011, 03:28:40 pm
Dude seriously, I've NEVER lost except for crits to one of my guys. It's never outplays and stuff. Always hax


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 17, 2011, 03:30:44 pm
Again, hence the name Hax Subway. =P Hax Tower and Hax Frontier were the same. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on September 17, 2011, 03:35:51 pm
Yeah its kinda garbage. And if I could just restart at 28 wins, itd be a lot easier


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 17, 2011, 03:37:09 pm
That's not the idea behind the Hax Subway, though. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on September 17, 2011, 05:58:50 pm
Ugh. What's YOUR win record?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 17, 2011, 05:59:38 pm
I believe if I got to 14 I'm lucky. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on September 18, 2011, 03:32:25 pm
I was much better at the Hax Frontier, specifically in the Battle Factory, Dome and Pyramid. Those are all so much better than the Battle Subway...
My subway record is 20 I think...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 18, 2011, 03:46:05 pm
ZLS: That's because the Hax Subway is based on the Hax Tower. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on September 19, 2011, 03:36:27 pm
...yeah. the battle tower/subway is probably the most unoriginal battling test in pokemon. If only they used different facilities instead of a straightforwards battle 7 trainers and win...
I remember the first time I played the battle tower in crystal and got haxed by a blissey I think... ever since then its been bad news..


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Micah477 on September 26, 2011, 09:54:49 pm
Not completely sure if this is just general discussion for the Videogames or not, but, anyway, does anyone here play the TCG? If so are you competing in Battle Roads? =)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 27, 2011, 07:25:45 am
Micah: It's for everything, it's just rare we don't talk about the games. =P

I don't truly play the TCG, as the only card I have is a Mew one from the Lucario Movie. However, the new online game is pretty cool, even if a little annoying at times because you can only get cards from buying cards IRL... =/


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on September 27, 2011, 07:46:36 pm
Not completely sure if this is just general discussion for the Videogames or not, but, anyway, does anyone here play the TCG? If so are you competing in Battle Roads? =)
I collect TCG cards, but I don't really play competitively... I do have a Pokemon League near me though, so I might join and play...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Wantija$$$ on September 27, 2011, 08:12:33 pm
I haven't played White since mid-late July. Can someone inform me of any wi-fi events that I've missed?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on September 28, 2011, 08:30:20 am
*Types up a list of different things that have happened and will happen here over Wi-Fi*












Oh, were you expecting something? All that's been released are Global Link C-Gear Skins. =P Well, the Eeveelutions, but those were also Global Link, and you probably got those before July. =P

/EDIT: However, the US' first Dream World Expansion is up; Spooky Manor! And you can get a Hidden Ability Banette if you have the special password!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Micah477 on September 29, 2011, 08:57:12 pm
Micah: It's for everything, it's just rare we don't talk about the games. =P

I don't truly play the TCG, as the only card I have is a Mew one from the Lucario Movie. However, the new online game is pretty cool, even if a little annoying at times because you can only get cards from buying cards IRL... =/
I've seen lone codes being sold on Ebay if that's all you want =)

Not completely sure if this is just general discussion for the Videogames or not, but, anyway, does anyone here play the TCG? If so are you competing in Battle Roads? =)
I collect TCG cards, but I don't really play competitively... I do have a Pokemon League near me though, so I might join and play...
You should try it out sometime, leagues are awesome. Lots of people trade cards at league too, if you just wanted to bolster up your collection.


Ah well, if anyone is playing the TCG on here I'd like to know XP
Even if it's the online version, as I have my deck near-built there :)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Legodac on September 29, 2011, 09:17:01 pm
You know, that's the one game that has eluded me,  I have never played pokemon,   well,   at least I have something I don't,   yet...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on September 30, 2011, 01:30:09 pm
Micah: It's for everything, it's just rare we don't talk about the games. =P

I don't truly play the TCG, as the only card I have is a Mew one from the Lucario Movie. However, the new online game is pretty cool, even if a little annoying at times because you can only get cards from buying cards IRL... =/
I've seen lone codes being sold on Ebay if that's all you want =)

Not completely sure if this is just general discussion for the Videogames or not, but, anyway, does anyone here play the TCG? If so are you competing in Battle Roads? =)
I collect TCG cards, but I don't really play competitively... I do have a Pokemon League near me though, so I might join and play...
You should try it out sometime, leagues are awesome. Lots of people trade cards at league too, if you just wanted to bolster up your collection.


Ah well, if anyone is playing the TCG on here I'd like to know XP
Even if it's the online version, as I have my deck near-built there :)
@Blade or anyone else interested in TCGO: I have a few codes in my posession that I'd be willing to donate, as I won't play too much online. I'm not giving them all away, but if people would like a code or 2 just ask and I can PM you some.

@Micah: I might go to a league to trade or collect... the league also hosts tournaments where you pay to enter, but the money is given to store credit, so its almost free.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on October 14, 2011, 12:53:11 am
http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Masuda_replies_to_tweet_regarding_remakes_of_Generation_III_games

Screw it, I'm going to play Emerald anyway.  Speaking of which...

Remember my problem before about catching Ralts for that in-game trade?  Well...problem solved.  Last time I played, I caught two more in rapid succession, and one is a male with Trace.  I haven't checked its Nature, but seriously, I don't know if I should bother; it's totally useless to me.  (And anyway, once I reach the Day Care, I can breed my female and my Modest male to get more Ralts, and since by then I should have a way to do Trainer Rematches for quick level-ups...)

So, new dillemma: should I settle for a Relaxed Male Seedot via the in-game trade, or should I go on trying to catch a Seedot?  I have to move forward next time I play anyway, since I'm low on both cash and Pokeballs, but am I permanently moving forward or am I scouting ahead for cash?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 14, 2011, 09:02:28 am
I believe you're scouting ahead for cash, and then going to own the Gym Leader, since part of the path ahead is blocked.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on October 14, 2011, 01:15:15 pm
Ah, OK, so Route 102 won't be out of my way later.  I remember when I played Platinum on a friend's DS (this was before I played it for myself), I missed getting a Machop and a Ponyta after the first gym, and I was really hurting for them later, and it was a PAIN getting back.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 14, 2011, 01:47:26 pm
Nothing's blocked I believe, but it gets easier to backtrack immediately after the third gym when you get access to Rock Smash. And obviously it will take a while to get back to places until you get Fly, but the loop-like layout of the region helps to backtrack a lot.

However, explore the island that the second gym's on, you might not be going back there for a while, as I believe you need surf to revisit it.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on October 14, 2011, 10:52:59 pm
Is it bad that I've already formulated two separate Triple Battle fantasy teams, while I only have one Double Battle team and my Single Battle team is only half-complete?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 15, 2011, 09:32:10 am
No, not really. =P I've got ideas floating around for what to add to my team, but I haven't actually planned out the final team. xD


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on October 15, 2011, 10:36:49 am
I have way too many ideas for teams myself, and most of them include pokemon that I don't have access to, or that take a long time to get. I've always wanted to try a Kingdra Rain Dance team, with a defensive core of Tangrowth and Slowbro, but I need to trade to get Kingdra, and Slowbro and Tangrowth are not nearly as good without their Dream World Abilities (regenerator), so it isn't working out too well. Ideally, the team would be for doubles, and would be:
Kingdra (Swift Swim)
Rain Dance, Surf, Dragon Pulse, Draco Meteor

Thundurus (Prankster)
Rain Dance, Thunder, Thunderwave, Focus Miss

Slowbro (Regenerator)
Surf, Psychic/Zen Headbut, Slack Off, Curse/Amnesia (Slack Off could be switched for something else (RD) as Regenerator covers this)

Tangrowth (Regenerator)
Toxic, Earthquake, Power Whip, Filler

and if there were 2 more pokemon allowed in doubles, I'd probably add a Multiscale Dragonite (which I don't have access to), and another Rain Dance Sweeper.
The only pokemon I have access to on this list (currently) is Thundurus, but I'm working towards a Kingdra.

The only reason I don't use Drizzletoed is b/c usually Swift Swim and Drizzle together is banned.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on October 15, 2011, 03:19:50 pm
Wait, seriously?  They banned Swift Swim and Drizzle together?!  That's like, the POINT of a Drizzle team.  And you're only allowed four Pokemon in Doubles?!  WHAT IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE?!

My team simultaneously utilizes a rain strategy while countering it.  I've got really good type coverage, too, though I'm considering switching my Psychic type for something a little better suited to my strategy.  I considered Blaziken, but then I'd have two Fighting-types on my team, so...

No, not really. =P I've got ideas floating around for what to add to my team, but I haven't actually planned out the final team. xD

Actually, I was asking whether it's bad that I have more work on triples and dooubles than single battles, even though 1-on-1 is like 90% of what you face in the games (Colosseum and XD nonwithstanding).


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 15, 2011, 03:25:50 pm
Drizzle/Swift Swim ban is only for stuff on like Smogon and such. On Wi-Fi itself, it's still allowed, like Random Match. ;)

And as for Doubles, that would be general Wi-Fi(Though not Friend Code matches)... As for why? Who knows; it's been like that since double battles in the Battle Tower in Ruby and Sapphire. Same reason that you're only allowed 3 Pokemon at a time in Single Battles in those things. =P

As for the teams, well that depends: Are you going to use those over Wi-Fi, or in-game? If in-game, yeah, that's bad(Depending on the game, you might over face one triple battle in-game... Wi-Fi's pretty much the only way to have Triple Battles otherwise. =/). Otherwise, just keep up what you're doing. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on October 15, 2011, 03:31:03 pm
Well, since I'll be playing White eventually (if Gray doesn't come out by the time I finish Emerald and HeartGold), Triples will be important in-game.  But yeah, any wi-fi battles I do will be off of friend codes, and that's what these are mostly for.

Darn, my doubles team was awesome; want me to post the team I've come up with so far for that (since it's a 6-pokemon team and wouldn't work in most cases anyway)?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 15, 2011, 03:34:40 pm
1. Ah, that's true. But even still, there's only like 4 battles in that, compared to the 99% single battles you find otherwise. =/ And alright then. =)

2. Sure. Again, the Doubles 4-Pokemon restriction is only for the Battle facilities, and Random Wi-Fi. Normal's unrestricted, for the most part. =P

However, Triple Battles allow 6 Pokemon, along with Shooter and Rotation battles. ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on October 15, 2011, 03:43:19 pm
...shooter battles?  (Googles)

Here's my Doubles fantasy team with 6 members.  It'd actually work OK with just the first 4 Pokemon, but I'd probably have to change some stuff since it would have a real issue with Steels and Sunny Day teams.
Team 1: Tri-Weather
*Politoed (Drizzle [Dream World])
*Toxicroak (Dry Skin [normal])
*Tyranitaur (Sandstorm [normal])
*Skarmory (Sturdy [normal])
*Ninetales (Drought [Dream World])
*Victini OR Sunny Ferrothorn
Alts: (Mienshao, Blaziken, Darmanitan)

My Sunny Ferrothorn would have the following moveset:
Sunny Ferrothorn:
*Hidden Power (Water) [Water]
*SolarBeam [Grass]
*Flash Cannon [Steel]
*???

??? would be replaced with Sunny Day for teams without a Drought partner; I have no idea what the last move should be for it in my surrent setup (since Ninetales comes with Drought).


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 15, 2011, 03:46:17 pm
Overall looks good; and is an interesting weather team. I'd suggest Ferrothorn, though; that way you could switch in from Tyran directly, without getting hit by the sand.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on October 15, 2011, 04:07:38 pm
That's true.  I just need something for that fourth slot, something with good coverage and decent power...something that, ideally, could cover the rest of my team's weaknesses.  (I'd also prefer it to be a Sp. Attack-based move, since it's a Special Tank).  HP water serves as a good anti-Fire measure (especially if I can breed Ferrothorn right so I get max power with Water-type), SolarBeam hits Ninetales' weaknesses and gets STAB, Flash Cannon gets STAB and hits hard, and is mostly neutral.  I wish Ferrothorn got a Special Ground-type move, that would take out Electric, which is the only substantial threat to my team.  (Then again, that's what Tyranitaur can hit with Earthquake, and I can pull in Skarmory when I need to use it so the other partners don't get massacred.)  Maybe Bulldoze, even though it's Physical, since it's a Ground-type attack?  (I also kinda wish Ferrothorn got Rapid Spin, that would be good for anti-hazard use.)

EDIT: here's a variation of that Doubles team for Triples use:
Team 2: Dual-Weather (Triples)
*Politoed (Drizzle [Dream World])
*Toxicroak (Dry Skin [normal])
*Vaporeon (Hydration [Dream World]) OR Scisor (Technician [normal)
*Tyranitaur (Sandstorm [normal])
*Skarmory (Sturdy [normal])
*Beheeyem (Telepathy [normal])


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 15, 2011, 04:13:35 pm
That might work, but just remember; in Triple battles you need team synergy especially, since you have three Pokemon out on the field at once. ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on October 15, 2011, 04:54:31 pm
DrizzToed supports Dry Skin Toxicroak naturally, and Hydration Vaporeon could run Wish/Protect/Scald/Ice Beam, or Scizor with Bug Bite/Bullet Punch/Pursuit/Superpower or Brick Break offers good support as long as rain is set up, and also works with Tyranitaur.  Tyran + Skarmory is a natural combo, and Beheeyem's Telepathy prevents damage from Earthquake/etc.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on October 16, 2011, 05:23:31 pm
...shooter battles?  (Googles)

Here's my Doubles fantasy team with 6 members.  It'd actually work OK with just the first 4 Pokemon, but I'd probably have to change some stuff since it would have a real issue with Steels and Sunny Day teams.
Team 1: Tri-Weather
*Politoed (Drizzle [Dream World])
*Toxicroak (Dry Skin [normal])
*Tyranitaur (Sandstorm [normal])
*Skarmory (Sturdy [normal])
*Ninetales (Drought [Dream World])
*Victini OR Sunny Ferrothorn
Alts: (Mienshao, Blaziken, Darmanitan)
Since Ferrothorn already has a 4x fire weakness, boosting fire's overall power with drought wouldn't be recommended. A triple weather team is somewhat overkill, IMO, however it could have benefits by messing with other team's weather. Especially if you can catch an opposing solarbeamer off guard, leaving them useless for a turn.
However, with Team Preview in effect in B/W (I think) it won't have as much shock value as in previous generations.
Also, Skarmory isn't really a sandstorm abuser, as it doesn't gain anything from SS- it only has immunity from damage. Sandstorm abusers can be:
Excadrill, Landorus, Terrakion (gains SpDef boost), Stoutland (immunity and speed boost from Sand Rush ability). Pairing one of the first three with Tyranitar would be more effective, unless you are trying to stall out the foe and win by racking up hazard damage.
The rain section of your team is solid, and Ferrothorn actually pairs well with Politoed, as its 4x fire weakness is lowered to 2x.

I would honestly suggest a dual weather team of Sandstorm and Rain, as, IMO, they are the best weathers. Possibly a team of:
T-tar
Excadrill
Ferrothorn
Politoed
Toxicroak
Skarmory/Kingdra/Scizor/Dragonite
The last slot is based on your playstyle. Skarmory would be good for stall, while Kindra is a powerhouse with Swift Swim and Surf/Draco Meteor. Scizor benefits from rain similarily to Ferro, and is also immune to Sandstorm as well. Dragonite has a solid base stat distribution, and with Multiscale it pretty much can't be OHKOd. It can also use Hurrican and Thunder, as well as Outrage, the former two moves getting perfect accuracy in rain. The dowside is that if T-tar switches in, you lose two moves effectively.

Just my thoughts. I've never run dual (or triple) weather...



Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on October 16, 2011, 07:02:22 pm
OK, Hoenn is officially my favorite Pokemon region ever.  (Keeping in mind I've never experienced Johto, Orre, or Unova.)
Two words: Premiere Ball.  It's like a free Pokeball with every visit, just like in Sinnoh!

Also, I just beat the Rustboro Gym.  I need a pair of HM slaves for Hoenn that I can catch now.  I plan to use Psyduck and Tropius when I can get them, but I can't get Tropius until Route 119 and Psyduck until Route 121, so... :/


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 16, 2011, 07:04:53 pm
Hmm... I'm debating on whether to tell you that they do that with pretty much every shop since Gen 3. =P Every time you buy 10 Pokeballs at once, you get a premier ball. =)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on October 16, 2011, 07:09:57 pm
No, it was one of the "features" I absolutely LOATHED about FireRed: the trainers were absurdly tough for the cash they gave out, and I couldn't buy 10 Pokeballs at once to get a Premiere Ball.  It led to several LONG strings of Vs. Seeker abuse at certain points.

I need a pokemon I can catch up to this point that can handle Cut, Rock Smash, and Strength, with Flash being a nice bonus if possible.

EDIT: Wha--? YES!!!  I just caught:
*Female Whismur (Premiere Ball)
*Male Level 7 Abra (Ultra Ball) (Got the UB from my Zigzagoon's Pickup)
*Female Nincada (Premiere Ball)

AND my Treecko evolved into Grovyle!  YEAH-UH!!!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 16, 2011, 07:31:04 pm
Oh, well yeah, that would be bad. I guess it's partly since FireRed is a remake that more or less stayed true to it's source material for the main game. =P

As for the Pokemon, try Zigzagoon. ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on October 16, 2011, 07:37:37 pm
It's a Quiet Abra. :clap: :clap:  Not quite as good as Modest, but since a.) these are only in-game and b.) pretty much all of my good Pokemon have a Speed-inhibiting Nature anyway, I'm not too fussed.

So, which Ralts should I trade off for my Seedot, my Calm male with Trace or my Hasty male with Synchronize?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 16, 2011, 07:45:27 pm
Trace. Although Hasty isn't probably the best ability to try and get, you never know when Syncers will come in handy. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on October 16, 2011, 07:50:49 pm
Ha!  Nincada has a Lonely nature, perfect for Shedinja!

...hmm, and Shedinja will be in a Premiere Ball...I may have to fins a way to get these teams transferred after all.

OK, I've set up a Zigzagoon to be my HM slave, and I'll trade off TraceRalts for Dots the Seedot.

EDIT: So I walk into the lower level of Granite Cave, looking for an Aron next to the exit ladder.  Guess what I find?  That's right.  A female Sableye.  guess what I find next?  A female, Level 11 Aron.  Then, on the way out, I get a female Geodude.  I can breed like 90% of the Pokemon I've found so far, it's awesome!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: B~T on October 16, 2011, 09:37:01 pm
I'll trade off TraceRalts for Dots the Seedot.

... I personally would have traded off the Synchronize Ralts since you can get Ditto ingame to breed natures...

@ZLS - Problem; Excadrill is now banned to the Uber tier for being such a terror in the sand. Thundurus too.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on October 16, 2011, 10:32:12 pm
I'll trade off TraceRalts for Dots the Seedot.

... I personally would have traded off the Synchronize Ralts since you can get Ditto ingame to breed natures...

@ZLS - Problem; Excadrill is now banned to the Uber tier for being such a terror in the sand. Thundurus too.

True, but I can get them BEFORE Final 4 now.  It's the same reason I'm so excited about female Pokemon. ;)

As long as they don't ban Toxicroak/Drizztoed, I'm happy.  I looked at those two and instantly knew they were the perfect combo for a team. :P

Also, what is this "Team Preview" thing ZLS mentioned earlier?

EDIT: Hehehe...I think the Pokemon team were thinking about Triples in emerald, but decided not to put it in.  I just got challenged by 2 trainers at once, followed by a third one the moment that one was through. :P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 17, 2011, 09:09:30 am
Well, again, the bans are only if you play competitively against people on other sites.

And Team Preview is where you select which order your Pokemon go in(Like when you enter the Battle Tower or so). While you do so, and while your opponent does so, you get to see each other's teams. Not view summaries, but see what Pokemon they have. ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on October 17, 2011, 11:59:31 am
Huh.  That's odd.  I guess it's only fair, though; we've been doing it to Gym Leaders and other in-game Trainers via Bulbapedia and other sites pretty much since the internet was invented, so it's only fair that we have to face that particular disadvantage ourselves...

In other news, I just won a Battle Factory-style thing in the Battle Tent at Slateport.  My rental team: Breloom, Golbat, Electrike.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on October 17, 2011, 12:08:38 pm
OK, Hoenn is officially my favorite Pokemon region ever. 
Hoenn is the best, I agree.

And yeah, Team Preview is what Blade said. It ruins the role of the lead pokemon, because if people see your team they'll guess as to a lead pokemon (like Azelf), so leads are not common anymore. It does add one more elemnet to the game, because you have to try to get the best possible matchup.

I never understood why Excadrill was such a problem. Probably because I don't play competitively. But these days, people seem to have a weather starter of their own, so switching the weather beats Excadrill. Also, Mach Punch (from Conkeldurr for example) hits super effectively.
What would make more sense is to send all weather starters to Uber, and keep OU as a weather free zone, or have a seperate OU for weather free battles.
Landorus and Terrakion are still strong in sand, and Tyranitar will always be strong. Garchomp without sandstorm isn't that amazing. He's fast and strong, but without a 20% chance to miss him all the time he'd be just another 4x ice weak dragon.

those are just my thoughts, though. Smogon seems to be very ban-happy lately.

I wouldn't say its a disadvantage, so much as just another level to the battle. Both players get to see the other team, so its even. And many pokemon run different sets in battle, so you don't know the opponents team 100%. As I said above, it really only hurts lead pokemon like Azelf, Machamp (though he suffers from Conkeldurr usage) etc.
Huh.  That's odd.  I guess it's only fair, though; we've been doing it to Gym Leaders and other in-game Trainers via Bulbapedia and other sites pretty much since the internet was invented, so it's only fair that we have to face that particular disadvantage ourselves...

In other news, I just won a Battle Factory-style thing in the Battle Tent at Slateport.  My rental team: Breloom, Golbat, Electrike.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on October 17, 2011, 12:17:28 pm
I wouldn't say its a disadvantage, so much as just another level to the battle. Both players get to see the other team, so its even. And many pokemon run different sets in battle, so you don't know the opponents team 100%. As I said above, it really only hurts lead pokemon like Azelf, Machamp (though he suffers from Conkeldurr usage) etc.
Huh.  That's odd.  I guess it's only fair, though; we've been doing it to Gym Leaders and other in-game Trainers via Bulbapedia and other sites pretty much since the internet was invented, so it's only fair that we have to face that particular disadvantage ourselves...

In other news, I just won a Battle Factory-style thing in the Battle Tent at Slateport.  My rental team: Breloom, Golbat, Electrike.

Psst.  fixed your quote formatting. ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 17, 2011, 12:22:48 pm
One thing about Team preview, though... It doesn't show you what order the people pick, so there is still a guessing game involved. Just not with what Pokemon your opponents have. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on October 17, 2011, 03:51:53 pm
OK, it's time to set up my Emerald team.  I've been doing alright with neutral-hitting attacks since I have a couple of overleveled Pokemon, but now that I'm at Mauville I need to balance my team.  (For the record, I plan to challenge the gym, but only after I've got my hands on a decent, well-trained Ground type.)

EDIT: I should mention, I now have my Level 22 Kirlia with Growl, Confusion, Calm Mind, and Teleport (the last of which I'm not getting rid of, as it's quite convenient.)  Grovyle is also in the low 20s, but everything else I have is around Level 14.  The only available Pokemon up to this point that I don't have are Plusle and possibly Wailmer, since I haven't been fishing in a while.  (I haven't gone onto any of the routes out of Mauville yet, I'm woried about the Trainers wiping the floor with me.)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 18, 2011, 04:20:41 pm
What info are you looking for? If I knew, I'd post about it. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on October 18, 2011, 07:33:51 pm
I need to kill the electric-type gym, then set up a real team to take on the second half of the game.  From what I can tell, Geodude is the only Ground-type I can get until after the gym (laaaaaame), and Electrike is the only Electric-type other than Plusle/Minun (which really aren't that great) that I can get for quite some time.  So really, I have no clue what I should set up.  ???

Keep in mind, my starter is Treecko, which is now Grovyle (moves: Hyper Cutter/Pursuit/Absorb/Quick Attack).  I have a Kirlia (Modest) with Growl/Confusion/Calm Mind/Teleport, and a Level 16 Wingull with Growl/Water Gun/Wing Attack/Mist.  I also have a...actually, I'll post the rest of my list in a second.

Edit:

Dustox Level 10 Female
Lotad Level 4 male
Lota Level 4 female
Zubat Level 7 female
Ralts Level 4 female
Ralts Level 4 male
Seedot Level 4 male
Taillow Level 4 male
Beautifly Level 10 Male
Marill Level 5 female
Slakoth Level 5 female
Poochyena Level 7 female
Slakoth Level 5 male
Taillow Level 4 female
Whismur Level 6 female
Abra Level 7 male
Nincada Level 7 female
Magikarp Level 9 male
Tentacool Level 9 male
Makuhita Level 8 male
Shroomish Level 13 female
Sableye Level 10 female
Aron Level 11 female
Geodude Level 8 female
Goldeen Level 6 male
Goldeen Level 9 female
Lotad Level 4 female HM poke
Gulpin Level 13 male
Minun Level 13 female
Gulpin Level 13 female
Electrike Level 12 male
Oddish Level 13 male
Oddish Level 13 female

Party
Kirlia Level 23 Male
Grovyle Level 22 Male
Taillow Level 15 Female
Wingull Level 18 Male
Zigzagoon Level 11 Male
Zigzagoon Level 3 Female (HM slave)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 19, 2011, 07:48:30 am
Confusion the Electric to death. That or train the Kirlia up a couple more levels then confusion it to death(Or use Psychic if you get it when leveling. =P)

Ironically, this is looking kinda like a fusion of my typical Emerald teams. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on October 19, 2011, 12:36:52 pm
Eh, I managed to Magnitude them to death.  Geodude actually levels up fairly fast below the cycling road.  She's now Level 22 (well, 23 when I smash through the tunnel between Verdanturf and the other route).  I think I need to level an Electrike (I managed to get a couple of females while I was leveling Geodude) to deal with the flying-types, and if I can level Shroomish a bit I'll have a workable Fighting-type.  Taillow grows fast, so that'll be my Flying-type.  The only bad thing is that I'll only have one Zigzagoon now (my Level 3 HM slave), so I'll get fewer free items.  Maybe I should level the little guy as well. :P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 19, 2011, 04:02:18 pm
Definitely level him, you'll eventually get Rare Candies. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on October 19, 2011, 08:25:08 pm
On a completely different note, apparently Nintendo has registered a domain name/website url thing in the form of:
pokemongray.com. The site is by the same domain name people that made pokemonblackwhite.com.

This pretty much guarantees pokemon gray (which was already pretty much guaranteed). The only noteworthy thing here is the spelling of gray vs grey. Nintendo has chosen Gray as the spelling, not choosing the e.

I like the e spelling better, but at least the third version is all but confirmed now.



Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 20, 2011, 08:04:15 am
Sweet. Well, Masuda pretty much dodged the question of the third version just now, so... I'd expect new info soon... And for it to be released next fall. =P I do wish they'd change up their release schedule, and/or do a simultaneous release here and in japan at the same time. But I just want Gray. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on October 20, 2011, 08:55:16 pm
they'd have to postpone the Japanese one so that they could change the language for all other locations for a simultaneous release. However, with the third version only modifying things of the original games, switching text around shouldn't take too long, as everything's been localized already, except for new text.
So, yeah. We do need a simultaneous release for the third version. For the original two I'm fine with waiting.

I hope Landorus plays a part in Gray, and that you can catch all three genies and the three dragons. I wonder what part N will play in this. Most likely he'd try to control Kyurem, I think, but who knows.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on October 20, 2011, 09:04:02 pm
*sniff sniff* What's that, Nosepass?  Timmy's stuck in a well?  You smell a repeat of the Platinum method of dealing with Legendaries?  Particularly for Reshiram/Zekrom's Trio Master/completer?  And you find it interesting that both Teams Magma and Aqua from R/S/E and Team Plasma from B/W/G have supposedly ecological motives, indicating R/S/E was at LEAST an influence, which possibly indicates the team was at least taking a look at it to see if it should be remade?  *sniff sniff* What's that?  You don't like it when I talk like this? *BZAAAP!!!*  :P

Hey, here's an idea: what if they re-release R/S/E on Virtual Console for the DSi/DSi3D and just add an option to migrate Pokemon to Gray if you have the Gray card in the slot?  Obviously, there'd be a few other changes to make (i.e. new moves, etc.), but it'd be VERY convenient for transferring, and I think it'd end up slightly cheaper than spending the extra money on physical packaging.  What do you think?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 21, 2011, 05:27:08 pm
I don't know of a DSi3D. =P I know of a DSi, and a 3DS, but not a DSi3D. =P

And while that's possible, they'd have to redo their  method of handling GBA games on the 3DS(And it definitely wouldn't be on the DSi)... Apparently the VC on the 3DS currently can't support multiplayer, for at least the GB/GBC games. And Pokemon games are heavy on Multiplayer.

As for Aqua and Magma, they were the only team not to be mentioned when one of the grunts reflected on what had been going on in the past... At least, I believe it was like that. Been quite a few months since I last saw that part. =/

Though, for B/W/G, it was more a 'we want the Pokemon to be better off in general!' than a 'We want sea/land Pokemon to have more of what their natural habitat is!' =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on October 22, 2011, 02:15:26 am
1. I knew that.  :facepalm:

2. Still, a downloadable release for remakes would make a lot of sense.

4. Well, I was going more along the lines of "the dev team did a R/S/E marathon before starting work on B/W/G."

3. If I recall...aren't FR/LG and R/S/E synchronous?  As in, they happened at the same time, but before any of the other games?  I can understand them pulling that with R/S/E itself, and with D/P/PT and HG/SS in the next generation, but pulling that with Unova would be stretching it.

...
...
...

...craziest idea ever.  What if they aren't remaking R/S/E, but were instead figuring out a way to make a whole new adventure in Hoenn?  Heck, I could see an unholy alliance of former members of some of the old teams (ESPECIALLY Cypher) making a comeback there, since Hoenn is fairly decentralized and unregulated (at least, compared to, say, Kanto or Sinnoh, or especially Black version Unova), and Cypher especially since XD hinted they would rebuild again and they are clearly familiar with at least some of the Hoenn Pokemon.

...dang, now I want to make this game myself. :P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 22, 2011, 11:56:52 am
1. =P

2. I dunno; they typically like to release the big games retail-wise. Like how Rumble blast is a retail game for the 3DS, even though Rumble was a downloadable game on the Wii... And had much less stuff.

3. You have a mix-up with the numbers there? =P And that's possible, I guess, but I dunno. Though, there are a lot of similarities tech wise... For one, each was, at the time, a brand new start. They just didn't go as far with the new start with RSE as they did with B/W/G. =P

4. They've never officially stated when RSE took place; for all we know, it was a pseudo time machine, and only not mentioned like that, because they only mentioned they were trading between Hoenn and Kanto. Besides, we have trades coming to and from Orre spanning 5 years(Colo/XD), so... =P

5. I'm kinda hoping for some sort of crossover between B/W/G and any new Hoenn games. N disappeared somewhere... Another region... And I'm really guessing Hoenn. I mean, they've been hinting at it so much. The only thing is if the Sinnoh Dragon trio will appear there, but I won't say why, because that's an even bigger spoiler. =P But Cipher would be an interesting return... But; would it work better in a Hoenn revisit... Or in Gen 6, with a new region with Hoenn Pokemon and/or a revisit to Orre during the game(Though not having it as the main region, somewhat like Kanto in Gen 2/4).


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on October 22, 2011, 01:31:49 pm
3. No, I was re-ordering the things because I had more to say about 3 than about 4. :P

4. Except Bill was working with Lannette to help her build the Hoenn PC system, something he (I think) mentions in FR/LG.  There's plenty of references...but, they're fragmentary at best, so...

5. I'd actually expect a "Unova section" in the remakes more than a "Hoenn Section" in Gray.  Makes more sense to me, and if Gray ends up with more urban environments than natural ones, the "Unova Secion" in the remakes would be a good way to keep them around (i.e. the remakes happen some number of years before Gray, so Unova is not as urbanized as in the future). 
6. Well, since there's a Rocket grunt in B/W who remembers the old days, I'd kind of like to see the remnants of all the old teams unite, under the unwitting control of Cypher (but we wouldn't learn of this until very late in the story).  When you break the alliance up, the old teams realize Cypher was just using them, and they turn on Cypher, prompting the Cypher leader to promise revenge...thus setting up a more major appearance for Cypher in Gen VI.  The thing I like about an alliance of teams is, there's more of an excuse for balanced grunt teams, like with Aqua and Magma.  Yes, they're all still "themed" for Darkness and/or Poison (meaning the same two counter types would still work), but...I just want to see more variety in the villainous teams, especially in the grunts.  I cheered when I saw that the Aqua grunts had Carvanha at the Museum battle when I delivered the Devon Goods; I'd like more of that in the future.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 22, 2011, 01:37:52 pm
3. Oh I see. =P

4. Yes, but if you remember, Bill also made the PC system in GSC... So, at that moment, maybe it was something they were working on? As I said, the Timeline of Gen 3 is really messed up. xD

5. I wasn't talking a Hoenn section in Gray, that was a different thought. =P

6. Intriguing, but wouldn't this game be part of Gen 6? =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on October 22, 2011, 02:46:33 pm
6. Not if they decide to make the return to Hoenn another sequel rather than an actual remake.  Which I would actually like; the system itself has pretty much reached its pinnacle.  Sure, there are minor tweaks here and there (*cough*theyreallyneedtofixthenidorina/nidoqueennobreedingglitch*cough*), but nothing as major as the Generation III additions or the Physical/Special move reassignments of Gen IV.  Generation V didn't really add that much to the meta-game, aside from new moves and Dream World Abilities.  (Triple and Rotation battles are just an extension of Double Battles, a Doubles team is pretty much ready for Triples with very few changes.)  I'm guessing the Generation VI won't add much more, either--the system doesn't need it.  So, I think from now on, the franchise should focus on new story more than new features.  (New Pokemon are included in "new story".)  I would understand a remake of R/S/E and even FR/LG, since they are a little outdated, especially in terms of moves and Pokemon (not to mention the Gen IV Physical/Special change) but beyond that I can't see any reason for remakes.  A team built entirely in Platinum can more than hold its own against teams that use the B/W changes, so there's no reason for a remake right now, and since I can't imagine any major changes to the game in Generation VI, I imagine it will still hold fairly true then as well.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 23, 2011, 09:38:31 am
I'm sure they can find stuff to do... Adding new types, anyone? =P

However, that brings up an interesting point, and something I had been thinking of prior to B/W's release here...

What if they made a Kanto and Hoenn version, instead of the typical stuff they usually do?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on October 24, 2011, 01:17:48 pm
I'm sure they can find stuff to do... Adding new types, anyone? =P

I have a song for you...YouTube link here. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3HKRbZx3d4)

So, I used that little trick I talked about before...and guess what?  I managed to get a female Mudkip!  AND there was a hiccup--that standard business about "The save file is corrupted" that forces me to save twice any time I want to save--which means (I think) that it ended up cloned--one on my save, one on the other.  It's awesome. ;D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 24, 2011, 08:50:44 pm
xD Well, all I was trying to say was, they have an odd number of types right now. Even one more would balance, even though it still wouldn't allow for gyms of all types in a single game, unless they had a two-gym region, 10 gym region, or something like that. ::)

But okay then. What about fourth stage evolutions?(Like something after Electivire, for example) Or three type Pokemon?(I'm sure Charizard would love that chance to finally get his well-deserved Dragon type. =P) They can definitely come up with something, and there's been a lot of talk of what could be added... What is a good and bad idea, however, is a different question. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on October 25, 2011, 12:25:21 pm
...and I repeat: ^^ (Points to YouTube song title)

And what, no comment on mai female Mudkipz?  :P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on October 25, 2011, 05:33:54 pm
What new type could be added? Everything is fairly balanced at the moment. Ice type really only needs one more resistance (two if its really lucky) and Posion needs to be super effective on more types. Every other type is well balanced.

Adding a third type to pokemon would be rediculously hard, and wouldn't benefit many pokemon. Most dragons already have wings, so just switching Charizard and Gyarados to dragon typing and remove their flying types would be fine (keep their flying movepool though).

The only cool thing they could add (that I can think of) is 4 line evolutions (or 5). But that would really just leave you with 3 weak pokemon and a strong pokemon. It could be good for the early bug pokemon though, as you could actually use them all throughout the game.

As Flipz said, GameFreak should focus on storyline, pokemon characters and the region. No more linear regions. Something like Kanto, but with more cities and some cities without gyms (example: 20-24 cities- 12 gym cities, 8-12 other cities, 4 elite four member and a champion. That adds up to 17 'bosses' that could all be type specific).

I doubt any of this will happen though. The most likely is 4 stage evolutions.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on October 25, 2011, 05:42:44 pm
The only technical improvement I could think of would be some way of making Happiness more integral to raising Pokemon; maybe Happiness adds bonuses to EVs and/or EXP?  I definitely would like to see a branched evolution line based solely on Happiness at the time a Pokemon reaches a given level; i.e. Friendlymon evolves at Level 22, but the level of happiness determines if it will evolve into Buddymon, Palmon, or Audifoemon.  (Yes, I'm aware those are the worst made-up Pokemon names ever.)  After this stage, you can evolve each of them into a third form using the standard Happiness evolutionary method, like Crobat.

EDIT: Oh, and it should get a baby evolution as well, just as an excuse to justify making a 4-stage line. :P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 25, 2011, 07:04:15 pm
Flipz: Eevee says hi. =P However... Audi? Hmm. *See similarity to Audino* I think you might be onto something there. =P

Also, so I herd u like female mudkipz?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on October 25, 2011, 07:56:09 pm
:P Actually, it was more along the lines of...well, let's just say a good team would go like this:

Audifoemon
Illumise
Solus in hostes ruit
et patriam servavit

Audi famam illius.
Cucurrit quaeque
tetigit destruens.

Audi famam illius.
Audi famam illius....


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 26, 2011, 08:18:06 am
Uh, translation please? =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on October 26, 2011, 11:13:05 am
Blade, I think I can officially say it has been too long since you last played Brawl.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vr0tdNweEDc&feature=related


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 26, 2011, 08:05:27 pm
It's been way too long. -_-; I get what you mean, but I literally meant translation, because I don't speak Latin. =P See, I'm not a Roman Demigod... =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on October 27, 2011, 05:30:40 pm
Roman Demigod? is that a Percy Jackson reference?

and just so this is still pokemon-topic: how soon does the third version of a generation usually come out?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on October 27, 2011, 06:18:44 pm
If Generation III is the norm, after the remakes.  If Generation IV is the norm, before the remakes.

--Flipz, being supremely unhelpful since 1991.  ;D :P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 27, 2011, 08:13:15 pm
ZLS: Entirely so. =P Been reading book 2 of the second series recently. And yeah, you're right about the second part of your post. >>;

Flipz: So true. =P Funny how everyone used that as evidence that HGSS would come out, and then it went and was released anyway, just to prove them wrong. Well, and please the fans, of course, can't forget that. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on October 28, 2011, 04:10:35 pm
If Generation III is the norm, after the remakes.  If Generation IV is the norm, before the remakes.

--Flipz, being supremely unhelpful since 1991.  ;D :P
In either case a new game should be coming out soon, hopefully. I would actually almost prefer RSE remakes to Grey, since I haven't done an actual runthrough of Emerald since 05-06. Plus if RSE remakes come with the old Battle Frontier that will make it better.

But I don't think the DS can handle good graphics, 649 pokemon and a proper, 7 facility battle frontier. Any remakes will probably come out on the 3DS. I'll be lucky if gray/grey manages to come out on the DS.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 28, 2011, 06:56:27 pm
I'm pretty sure whatever is next after Gray, or possible even Gray, will be on the 3DS. The DS is really only around now because a lot more people have them than the 3DS... But really, once a main-series Pokemon game(Or even Mystery Dungeon) comes out for the 3DS, that'll change in a flash.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on November 04, 2011, 02:01:10 pm
Just read that the new TCG theme decks are called Fast Daze and Furious Knights. Based on none other than Aceelgor and Escavalier. I actually thought they were quite good titles.

I'm pretty sure whatever is next after Gray, or possible even Gray, will be on the 3DS. The DS is really only around now because a lot more people have them than the 3DS... But really, once a main-series Pokemon game(Or even Mystery Dungeon) comes out for the 3DS, that'll change in a flash.
and so I will need to buy a 3DS soon.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 05, 2011, 08:46:55 am
Do it. I mean, the price drop put it into literally the same range as the DSi, and will be much cheaper than the Vita assuming it doesn't get a price drop too... Plus, good games are out even now. No Pokemon main series games yet, but who knows; that might change next year. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on November 05, 2011, 11:11:36 am
Most likely I'll get it at Christmas, mainly for Mario games (kart and SMB3D), Zelda, and future pokemon games. Plus it should allow me to (finally) use wi-fi for pokemon White.
169.99 is actually a really good price.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 05, 2011, 11:27:46 am
I agree, it got me 20 free games, even if 10 of them are still to come. =P

And that's true, I'm wondering what the new Zelda game will be, since it's been revealed that an actual new game is in the works...(And I hope there's no stylus control... While it worked very well for PH, and likely ST[Haven't played Spirit Tracks yet], it won't work on the mismatched screens of the 3DS.) But, that's not the place for this, since this isn't the Zelda topic, even if I momentarily forgot about that. >>;


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on November 26, 2011, 04:04:04 pm
Picked up a 3DS today since TRU had a sale... now I just need to figure out how to connect it to my wi-fi, which seems to be trying as hard as it can to prevent me from connecting...

also, is Pokedex 3D free to download if I ever get internet connecions to work on the 3DS?



Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 26, 2011, 06:15:56 pm
Yeah, Pokedex 3D is free.

As for the DS game stuff, there's a separate menu you have to configure. And possibly a third in-game, not sure; I haven't tried that yet, nor have I had a need.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on November 26, 2011, 08:07:11 pm
You know what I'd like to see Nintendo take a stab at?  An optional "App" for the Dsi/3DS that, when enabled, tracks Pokemon players' battle moves and their effectiveness.  Basically, the app itself would record every match and send the data of Pokemon used, moves used, hold items used, IVs, EV training, etc. to a central server.  That central server, in turn, would crunch the numbers and analyze the way that the fanbase uses Pokemon in battle; that digitized information, created in a way that computers can understand, would be used to alter the A.I. of the ingame trainers, making the experience more realistic.

Note that this doesn't necessarily mean all of the early-game trainers will be uber-hax and kill you constantly; once the A.I. knows how to battle well, it will also be able to pick out poor battle strategies.  Each trainer would have a set skill "stat" of some kind that would allow them to choose a strategy; in-game Trainers who have a low skill stat set by the programmers would be more likely to choose a poor strategy or a strategy that is good but is ill-suited for their Pokemon, while those with a high skill stat would be able to choose more advanced strategies, though the system would also have a random aspect to it that would allow them to "slip up" once in a while.

THIS would be a welcome addition to Gen VI, wouldn't it?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on November 26, 2011, 08:11:32 pm
it would be cool if the AI were updated to be more challenging. Especially Elite Four members and gym leaders. but an app like that would be challenging to add I think, although I don't know enough about that kind of stuff to be accurate.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 26, 2011, 08:39:38 pm
Oooh. I so wish they'd have some sort of increasing/decreasing difficulty. While it's fun smashing through grunts like they're a stone beneath a steamroller, it would be fun to actually have a challenge for once. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on November 27, 2011, 11:06:09 pm
it would be cool if the AI were updated to be more challenging. Especially Elite Four members and gym leaders. but an app like that would be challenging to add I think, although I don't know enough about that kind of stuff to be accurate.
It wouldn't be THAT hard to record matches over the Internet, and it would only be moderately difficult to translate metagame strategies into computer-readable formats.  The hard part would be analyzing them.  Here's how I would go about it:

A team of about 20-30 employees would then read the Serebii Pokemon of the Week info and other sources to learn about the strategies in human-understandable language, then they would search through recordings to see that strategy in action.  (Since the battles would be stored as sequences of actions (a la Brawl replays), it would be perfectly easy for the team to do a simple search for Pokemon X using move Y.)

Once a number of replays showing a given strategy in use are identified, the team would assign the strategy some sort of ID number or other tag that the computer would be able to read and learn.  This tag would also identify which Pokemon can legally use the strategy.  Repeat until most ordinary strategies are recorded in the system.

Here comes the tricky part: the team would then sit down with a list of strategies and watch them in use, then judge their overall effectiveness and difficulty to counter.  This highly subjective rating would be averaged across all employees who rated a given strategy and then compiled into the database, essentially giving each strategy a "difficulty rating."  From there, a simple code will assign each strategy a probability of use in various lookup tables (each balanced for a certain level of difficulty).  When the player encounters a Trainer, that trainer's file contains a variable that tells it which lookup table to randomly select a strategy from, as well as any relevant modifiers (i.e. early-game trainers' random "dice rolls" would carry a heavy penalty, ensuring they only select strategies that are easy to counter).  If a given strategy is illegal for the Pokemon that Trainer has, the game will select a new one.

This is, essentially, the same A.I. currently used for in-game Trainers, just tweaked a bit to pseudo-randomly choose series of moves, instead of just random moves.

Also note that, to prevent in-game Trainers from ONLY using really effective battle strategies, the team would have to come up with various "dud" strategies and place them into the database and lookup tables.  This would have the effect of representing poor training or poor prediction, and would serve to randomize moves a little to keep things interesting for players.  TL;DR not every Rattata should be a FEAR Rattata.  ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on November 28, 2011, 06:26:35 pm
I HAVE WIFI CONNECTION!!!!!!! FINALLY!
 
i will soon post info regarding friend codes and such. i can finally use the dream world, and trade online and everything!!!   

lol editing this from 3ds. never happening again cuz typing is rediculous.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 29, 2011, 09:18:47 am
Congrats. =D I might start playing again soon; but possibly not. I have enough other things to do. D=


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on November 29, 2011, 11:36:23 am
don't worry. as i said in the 3ds topic, i still need to set up wi-fi for ds games...
when grey comes out though... now i'm actually hoping grey is for 3ds, or at least has a 3ds version.



Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 29, 2011, 11:42:04 am
Even if Grey was released for the DSi like Black and White, it'd still support WPA.

However, I want Grey to be released for the 3DS, if only for Persistent Friend Code. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on November 29, 2011, 01:34:15 pm
it would be cool if the AI were updated to be more challenging. Especially Elite Four members and gym leaders. but an app like that would be challenging to add I think, although I don't know enough about that kind of stuff to be accurate.
It wouldn't be THAT hard to record matches over the Internet, and it would only be moderately difficult to translate metagame strategies into computer-readable formats.  The hard part would be analyzing them.  Here's how I would go about it:

A team of about 20-30 employees would then read the Serebii Pokemon of the Week info and other sources to learn about the strategies in human-understandable language, then they would search through recordings to see that strategy in action.  (Since the battles would be stored as sequences of actions (a la Brawl replays), it would be perfectly easy for the team to do a simple search for Pokemon X using move Y.)

Once a number of replays showing a given strategy in use are identified, the team would assign the strategy some sort of ID number or other tag that the computer would be able to read and learn.  This tag would also identify which Pokemon can legally use the strategy.  Repeat until most ordinary strategies are recorded in the system.

Here comes the tricky part: the team would then sit down with a list of strategies and watch them in use, then judge their overall effectiveness and difficulty to counter.  This highly subjective rating would be averaged across all employees who rated a given strategy and then compiled into the database, essentially giving each strategy a "difficulty rating."  From there, a simple code will assign each strategy a probability of use in various lookup tables (each balanced for a certain level of difficulty).  When the player encounters a Trainer, that trainer's file contains a variable that tells it which lookup table to randomly select a strategy from, as well as any relevant modifiers (i.e. early-game trainers' random "dice rolls" would carry a heavy penalty, ensuring they only select strategies that are easy to counter).  If a given strategy is illegal for the Pokemon that Trainer has, the game will select a new one.

This is, essentially, the same A.I. currently used for in-game Trainers, just tweaked a bit to pseudo-randomly choose series of moves, instead of just random moves.

Also note that, to prevent in-game Trainers from ONLY using really effective battle strategies, the team would have to come up with various "dud" strategies and place them into the database and lookup tables.  This would have the effect of representing poor training or poor prediction, and would serve to randomize moves a little to keep things interesting for players.  TL;DR not every Rattata should be a FEAR Rattata.  ;)

*cough*comments?*cough*


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 29, 2011, 03:19:58 pm
I'd like it, if it could also be used in combination with the return of the Vs Seeker, so that you could rebattle in-game trainers to hone your battle skills without having to have any losses recorded, or go through the Hax Facilities. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on November 29, 2011, 03:24:16 pm
okay, that sounds fair enough, but smogon has better analysis's overall, with more explanations explaining team strategies. and because strategies often change, players would have to download updates to get more up to date strategies. also, an npc's team would need to change as well, because there's only so much you can do with a select team.

-zls


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on November 30, 2011, 12:49:36 pm
I'd like it, if it could also be used in combination with the return of the Vs Seeker, so that you could rebattle in-game trainers to hone your battle skills without having to have any losses recorded, or go through the Hax Facilities. =P

Well, that's the thing--with strategies implemented, the Hax Facilities don't need to be so hax; instead, they use actual strategy to beat the stuffing out of you.  :o :D  The Vs. Seeker definitely needs to make a comeback, but I'd also like to see a few "extra areas" on each route, the require more advanced HMs than the first time you come down.  I'm not talking about sending the player back and forth across the regions over and over again for story, I'm talking about bonus areas, where you take your new HM back to an old route to pick up a few extra items, and battle a few new Trainers along the way.

okay, that sounds fair enough, but smogon has better analysis's overall, with more explanations explaining team strategies. and because strategies often change, players would have to download updates to get more up to date strategies. also, an npc's team would need to change as well, because there's only so much you can do with a select team.

-zls

1.) Serebii was the first thing that came to mind, that's all.  Besides, I'm actually kinda unfamiliar with actual strategies and stuff, since I can't play Pokemon on wi-fi.
2a.) Well, constant updates wouldn't really be needed. Keep in mind, this would be implemented in Gen VI, so it would take quite some time for new strategies and revisions of old strategies to be invented and to come into play.  Thus, for the in-game Trainers of the first two installments, strategies only slightly tailored to Gen VI would be just fine.  (Even with this "upgrade", the in-game trainers will never be as challenging as another human.)  For the third game and/or whatever remakes they decide to do, the game would be updated with data collected from the previous games.
2b.) That said, the "Hax Facilities" (now with less hax, as I mentioned to Blade) would be a better place for constant updates like that, and it could be an easy side-feature; everytime you play online (or via local wireless with someone with a more current update than you), the "strategy definitions" would be updated as well.  Of course, an option would need to be included to "opt out" or turn updating off, for those players who don't want the changes, but still, not a big deal.
3.) Well, the Frontier already has that.  I suppose a few in-game Trainers could get upgrades to their team and strategies, but for the most part I think they should stay pretty much the way they are when you first meet them, like they always have.  Another possible addition would be some sort of "influence" or "NPC EXP" system such that the more times you battle a given Trainer, the tougher they get (improved levels and movesets, additional Pokemon, evolved Pokemon), but even that would be a bad idea to implement for ALL in-game trainers, and besides that's a different concept that would have its own logistical issues. :P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 30, 2011, 01:13:47 pm
Flipz: Yeah, I agree. Plus, it would help to give people the ability to actually stand a chance. =P

I agree with extra areas; it'd kinda be like the Surf areas in the current games.

Something that could maybe also help with this... Maybe a general 'trainer level'? I mean, you have Pokemon levels, but you could also have a 'skill level' assigned to your trainer character somehow.

1. I've only really looked at Serebii strategies myself, to be honest. >>; Maybe it's partly why I'm still failing. =P

2a. Well, one problem with that; if it was implemented in there, then, wouldn't it make sense that they'd need at least one update for the new Pokemon introduced then? I see you addressed that, but couldn't it also have a backport to the old games? Especially since it's pretty much guaranteed to be on the 3DS, which now allows DLC and such; and since Nintendo has free control over their own eShop, they could just have those updates be free DLC to be 'patched' into the game.
2b. That would make sense. Maybe leave the huge updates for the second game in the gen, along with the backport update I was just talking about, if they did that.

3. Well; technically that could be actively implemented; and already has been implemented at least once. *Looks at the Vs Seeker* If they had an active upgrade system in place(Like so that all trainers who you rebattle gets consistent upgrades), then the Vs. Seeker could become a very handy tool, even more than it already is.

As for how to balance it; that's definitely where a Trainer Level would become handy... Because it could act as an 'upper limit' for the levels of Pokemon trainers you face have, when you re-battle them.(To an extent, obviously they won't be downgraded, they'd just keep their original teams in that circumstance)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on November 30, 2011, 08:34:19 pm
1) well, smogon just has a much greater set of strategies that go really in depth and generally explain stuff better than:
example: flamethrower for consistancy, fire blast for power.
smogon would tell you which specific pokemon each move gets an important KO on, and which it doesn't.
unfortunately, smogon isn't as child friendly as serebii, so some of their strategies aren't exactly PG (although some strategies, like the luvdisc one, make me laugh out loud (literally) because of how they're written).
also, smogon forums are not fun, really, because they focus entirely on competitive battling. but for competitive battling they are pretty much the top.

3)VS seeker was one of the best things implemented in the games. I have no idea why BW didn't include it. also, just adding that your rival in Pt leveled up as well post E4.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 30, 2011, 08:48:30 pm
1. Yeah, i've been meaning to eventually check them out, but just haven't. =/

3. I agree, and forgot about the rival. Good point there.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on December 03, 2011, 06:56:46 pm
So i've finally gotten my wi-fi to work properly for pokemon white (although it still doesn't connect for long periods of time for some reason). My friend code is listed in my sig.
I need the following pokemon in order to complete my Unova Dex:
-Tornadus (which will allow me to get Landorus)
-Reshiram
-anything from the Gothitelle line (although I can easily get this over the GTS)

Tornadus is the biggest problem, b/c I can't search for Tornadus, as I haven't seen it, nor can I ask for it (which is not very smart on Nintendo's part).

and I can finally understand the rage people get on the GTS, when 9/10 (at least) offers are for Resh/Zek at level 9 or under...

EDIT: If anyone has a Tornadus that they could lend me (so that I can get Landorus( I'll trade back the Tornadus afterwards and search for one on the GTS)) it would be greatly appreciated. I'm not sure of any other way to acquire one, except by negotiations, which don't work well for me.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on December 17, 2011, 01:27:37 pm
Gaaaaaah! the new pokemon game that was announced IS NOT grey!!! it's not a main series game, but a RTS game, apparently, that to me looks like a pokemon version of Risk.

the cool things about the game are that Zekrom seems to play a prominent role, and Eevee is the starter pokemon (I always thought that Eevee should be the starter pokemon, as the player then has many options later on in the game). The game is also apparently going to be a DS game, which seems odd, but that might change, who knows...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on December 17, 2011, 02:43:19 pm
Well, it's only been a year since Black/White. Even if we got spoiled with three consecutive years of main series releases, look how long it took for Diamond/Pearl to release, and then the two year wait for Platinum. We just expected another one this year or next year. =P

Besides, they still have a few months to announce Grey or any remakes anyway. Since they typically announce new stuff in March or May, so that there's hype in time for September.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on January 29, 2012, 12:48:17 pm
Hey jw, what kind of pokemon card is it when it's not holographic, but the rest of the card is shiny?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on January 29, 2012, 01:06:24 pm
Hey jw, what kind of pokemon card is it when it's not holographic, but the rest of the card is shiny?

I believe its called a reverse holo. One come's in each pack (pokemon's way of guaranteeing a holo/foil card).

EDIT: Arceus is available ffrom the dream world right now, so if you don't have one currently you can get one (which was cool for me).


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on February 23, 2012, 07:07:46 pm
anyone else no longer getting spot pass pokemon for pokedex 3d? I currently have 104 pokemon registered and I haven't gotten a spot pass entry in about a week and a half (after usually getting them daily). I get spot passes for Mario Kart and Nintendo video, so I was wondering if something's up with my pokedex 3d...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on February 23, 2012, 08:37:18 pm
You need to self-scan the Pokemon after a while. Don't ask why, it just does. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on February 24, 2012, 04:08:54 pm
Self Scan as in scan the QR codes on the official site? If so then thank you ;D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on February 24, 2012, 04:20:04 pm
Yes, exactly that. =P Though, you can find the codes in other places, too. Like Serebii. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on February 25, 2012, 07:46:47 pm
Apparently Kyurem has new formes that have been released... they look somewhat odd, I guess... check serebii

EDIT: the new formes also come because there are two new games: Black 2 and White 2. Unfortunately the games are for the DS, which means no 3D enhancements. The games appear to be sequels, though...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on February 25, 2012, 08:29:39 pm
I mentioned about Black2/White2 in CtaM, actually. =P

And yes, this does look very intriguing. I'm kinda liking the new forms, though the movie poster version makes them look a little better(Kyurem manages to still be asymmetric. =P).

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I do wish they'd change up their release schedule, and/or do a simultaneous release here and in japan at the same time.

I seriously have got to stop predicting the Pokemon future. =P

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Not if they decide to make the return to Hoenn another sequel rather than an actual remake.

You too, Flipz, even if it's not confirmed that we'll be heading to Hoenn in the sequels. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on February 25, 2012, 11:59:41 pm
MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!! *rotfl* *rotfl* *rotfl* *rotfl* *rotfl* *rotfl* *rotfl* *rotfl* *rotfl*  :clap:

Next thing you know, the geneticists are going to use directed evolution to create actual Pokemon!  *rotfl* *rotfl* *rotfl*


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on February 26, 2012, 10:42:30 am
I mentioned about Black2/White2 in CtaM, actually. =P

And yes, this does look very intriguing. I'm kinda liking the new forms, though the movie poster version makes them look a little better(Kyurem manages to still be asymmetric. =P).

/EDIT:
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I do wish they'd change up their release schedule, and/or do a simultaneous release here and in japan at the same time.

I seriously have got to stop predicting the Pokemon future. =P

//EDIT:
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Not if they decide to make the return to Hoenn another sequel rather than an actual remake.

You too, Flipz, even if it's not confirmed that we'll be heading to Hoenn in the sequels. =P
I thought that Kyurem was supposed to be broken, and that his new formes are supposed to be his more complete formes, so it makes sense that he's still asymmetric in his regular form.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on February 26, 2012, 11:35:11 am
He was. The problem there is, if it's 'more complete'; why is his head and such still looking like he's broken? I guess it might be partially because all three dragons aren't merged into one still...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on February 28, 2012, 05:57:00 pm
Anyone have a spare Tornadus they're willing to trade/tradeback? (Tornadus is from Black, fyi).


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on February 28, 2012, 06:29:37 pm
I have a Tornadus, not spare, but I can do a trade-tradeback sometime, hopefully. The only problem, is that I need to take a game out of my 3DS to do so. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on February 28, 2012, 06:31:18 pm
Yeah, I don't need one to keep; just one so that I can surf the GTS for one to complete my dex (and eventually obtain a Landorus). We'll set up a time soon, I guess.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on February 28, 2012, 06:41:52 pm
1. That makes sense; the GTS has seemed to start to lose it's grip on reality, though. =P(I did manage to trade away one of my Arceus, though, IIRC. =P Might've been a Bulbasaur, I'm not sure.)

2. Alright, then. =)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on February 28, 2012, 07:31:41 pm
1: I've traded a lot on GTS... I wish there was a filter, though, so that I don't have to see people asking for lv 9 Resh and Zek... but at least I can get better results than GTS negotiations, which I've found to be completely useless. People just show their many shinies and then frown at anything shown to them. Or they'll show a Patrat and smile at an offered Heatran...



Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on February 28, 2012, 07:51:23 pm
Well, the whole Level 9 legends thing is what I was talking about. =P But yeah, the Negotiations is interesting. I heard an interesting way to stop them, though, especially if they're hackers. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on February 28, 2012, 08:06:16 pm
people asking for lv 9 Resh and Zek...

I think that's people trying to use the Platinum glitch/feature that let you put up a Pokemon on the GTS with the appropriate evolution item, then take it back after 24 hours and it would evolve.  If they put up a deal for a pokemon that COULD be obtained, then there is a shot of someone doing the trade and you losing the Pokemon, whereas if you ask for an impossible trade... ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on February 28, 2012, 08:09:22 pm
Actually, most I've seen are stuff like Reshiram or Zekrom for that... Which is just plain odd. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on February 29, 2012, 01:08:54 pm
Most of the people asking for Resh/Zek lv 9 and under are offering legendaries or shinies.

How do you deal with negotiations? they need to include a keyboard where you can ask for what you want. The games themselves say that online interaction isn't rated, so I don't see why they can't give us a better way to communicate what we want. Or at least give us word choices (that include all the pokemon) so that completing a dex is easier.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 06, 2012, 07:00:20 pm
They do have words... in a way... *Pushes Unown box out of Nintendo's sight*


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Mahri828 on March 07, 2012, 08:53:36 pm
 So... Exactly how many Pokemon are they up to now? I lost track after Emerald. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 07, 2012, 09:44:08 pm
649. =P Though, one's still to be revealed. Considering they just revealed two hidden legends at once, though... =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Mahri828 on March 07, 2012, 09:58:54 pm
 Woah; that's quite I bit more than I was expecting... I was thinking more around like 400-something. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 08, 2012, 07:52:52 am
No, that was Generation 4. =P(493 then.) (It was 386 in Gen 3, which is where you lost track of everything. =P)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on March 09, 2012, 07:37:03 pm
Welp, earlier today I traded my Heatran for a Japanese Torchic that I was hoping would have Speed Boost. It didn't. Sad.

I know that seems pretty lopsided, but I was never going to use Heatran anyway (I don't like using Legendarys, and it's in my pokedex, so it isn't a huge deal). Plus I have a shot at a Masuda method shiny now. There's no Bad Egg in B/W, right?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on March 12, 2012, 03:04:52 pm
The new box art for BW2 looks awesome, and makes the new Kyurem formes look much better (even that weird Resh-fusion one).


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 16, 2012, 09:18:52 am
Yeah, I was kinda surprised how much better the Zekrom form looked. =O


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on March 17, 2012, 11:41:40 am
The Kyu/Zek form has abnormally long arms, IMO, and its stance is pretty hunched over. The box art makes him look way better though, and the colour scheme of black/grey/blue is really awesome. Unfortunately, Kyu/Resh doesn't have the best colour scheme, but his stance is better, IMO, and getting arms and wings is a plus, as Reshiram's wing/arm never looked all that great to me.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 17, 2012, 02:48:12 pm
I think that in this case, the colour schemes should've been reversed, as KyuRam would look awesome in black. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on March 18, 2012, 07:54:03 am
But then KyuRom would be a white/grey gorilla that would only look good on the cover of the game. I really hope that the ingame sprites have the blue/red energy things coming out of the tails because that makes both KyuFormes much better.

Also: I wonder if there is a third, unreleased form where Kyurem actually fuses with both Zek and Resh. Maybe that will be in BW3 or Grey :P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 18, 2012, 08:22:51 am
Well, the updated art has it(Which makes me wonder if it's similar to the BW1 Japanese box arts, how it was a 'depending on which way you look, you get a different image' cover. It was kept here only from looking between the cover and manual's cover very quickly. =P); so I'm guessing it'll be handled similarly to Reshiram and Zekrom's ingame sprites. And yeah, but if they switched elements as well... =P(Then, at least we'd have an awesome Zapdos-like electric dragon, but which was black. =D)

Given the original dragon rumours about Kyurem, I'd expect to either see it in a non-playable form this game(Sorta like the Zapmolcuno mashup from early Pokemon Special, though it was Manga only period.), or, as you theorize, a third set of sequels. Or Grey, since if you have a trilogy revolving around the Tao trio, you kinda need one last version to finish it off, instead of two more versions which would likely just split the Original Dragon further. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on March 23, 2012, 08:34:39 pm
Playing Red Version on a gameboy colour is strangely satisfying, probably due to the fact that item cloning is really easy and the old sprites are pretty cool to see and are a lot rougher than the new ones. Yellow version is also fun, since you get all three starters along with Pikachu, but the lack of cloning is meh. Also not getting a mew isn't as good as Red either.
I would replay crystal, but that would mean resetting and losing my Celebi and Ho-oh which I got from my friend years ago...

Also, playing the battle frontier in Emerald is awesome, and if/when remakes come out I really hope gamefreak brings back the exact same frontier (even without updated graphics would be fine). I think emerald's frontier is the high point of gamefreak's development.

White version now seems so simple compared to those older games. The bright side is the fact that I can get wi-fi event pokemon now... a few years too late though.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 24, 2012, 09:29:05 am
For Red, the Missingno glitches were awesome. However, they can technically still be done for Yellow, you just need a more... Interesting approach. Similar to the Mew glitch, but by battling other stuff. ;) I think that items can be cloned that way too, haven't tested it in a long while, though.

Gold/Silver/Crystal has the second easiest Pokemon Cloning Glitch, though, IMO.(Given that Gen 1 had a Pokemon cloning glitch, but it involved the Link Cable, instead.) Crystal's was slightly harder to pull off, though, and they all had a higher chance of corrupting data. =P

I honestly wish that the cloning glitches would return. That's more or less a staple of the series, since every generation but 5 has had some form of it.(Even D/P, though that was much harder than any of the others, since you needed precise enough timing, and it didn't even work for everyone, due to fluctuations in routers.)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on March 24, 2012, 10:27:13 am
my fav cloning glitch is emerald's battle frontier. The ability to clone pokemon and items at the same time with ease was awesome, and allowed me to transfer a ton of pokemon from emerald to Pearl/Plat and still keep them in emerald to play the frontier with.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 24, 2012, 11:20:30 am
Yeah, I definitely agree. Safe(Unless you mess up a step like I did. ... Poor Latios. =P), easy, and effective.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on March 24, 2012, 06:32:25 pm
Yeah, I definitely agree. Safe(Unless you mess up a step like I did. ... Poor Latios. =P), easy, and effective.

This is why I like playing on an emulator.  Infinite save-states. :P  (Note that this is of limited use on D/P/Pt, and I have no idea if I can even run HG/SS on emulator.  I'm almost certain I can't on B/W, and I'd rather just get them outright anyway, but I can't unless/until I move out. :-/ )


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 27, 2012, 03:49:48 pm
I wonder what that new crossover Pokemon game's like...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on March 27, 2012, 05:54:39 pm
Crossover?  *Has no idea what you are talking about*


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 27, 2012, 05:56:33 pm
Pokemon + Nobunaga's Ambition.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on May 21, 2012, 10:59:47 pm
Wow.  Just read an article in Nintendo Power about Pokemon: Conquest.

It sounds epic.  ;D

Also, I completely forgot what I was doing in Emerald before I randomly stopped playing.  I know I'm right at the spot where I have to choose a fossil, I forget, do I get the other one at the end of the game like the fossils in FR/LG, or is this a permanent choice?  Which one will be more useful to me pre-Final Four?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 22, 2012, 08:32:49 am
You don't get the other in FR/LG at the end... You do here. ;)

As for which is more useful, I'm not entirely certain, I'd go with Anorith, if only because it's final evo is awesome.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on May 22, 2012, 10:30:24 pm
Excellent.

Now I just have to remember what I was doing before the sand tower thing showed up. XD


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 23, 2012, 08:10:21 am
Check your trainer card; how many badges do you have? Check the map, have you been to That One Town at the very top of the west side of Hoenn?(Not Lavaridge, the other one)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on May 23, 2012, 09:16:55 am
Oh, that's right, I remember now!  I have to fight my dad, and I was looking for a few good Fighting types and/or Ghost types, as well as trying to boost my three starters a bit.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on May 23, 2012, 09:22:00 am
I thought that was the next part, since you had the goggles. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on June 15, 2012, 05:43:18 pm
Hey, guys, thespeedgamers.com is going to do a livestream playthrough to catch EVERY single Pokemon to raise money for charity.  It starts in just over 15 minutes!

EDIT: OK, so I'm evaluating my Emerald team, and here's what I have on me:

Grovyle
Taillow
Marshtomp
Kirlia
Combusken
Linoone

Thinking ahead to Final 4, Blaziken can take the Ice-types and the Dark-types with minimal fuss, and I'm thinking of switching Grovyle for Cacturne, which should deal with the Ghost-types.  I want an Ice-type of my own to deal with the dragons, which would you suggest?  (Keep in mind what I can and can't get pre-Elite Four.)  Finally, I can either use Cacturne on the Water-types and just deal with the damage, or, preferably, I need a Pokemon with an Ability that renders it completely immune.  Is there anything like than in Emerald?

EDIT 2: OK, looks like Lombre with Mega Drain and Leech Seed is my best bet, I'll just have to remember to switch to Cacturne (Pin Missile/Needle Arm/Faint Attack/Spikes) for Tentacruel and the enemy Ludicolo (weak to Pin Missile).  My Ice type will be Glalie.  That leaves me with two Pokemon slots open, who do I use as backup?  And what kind of prep should I make for the upcoming gyms/etc.?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 18, 2012, 08:11:19 am
I'm not quite sure how they intend to catch Meloetta or Keldeo, considering they haven't even been released in Japan yet, but...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on June 18, 2012, 09:45:09 pm
What do you think of my Final 4 setups?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on June 19, 2012, 02:18:52 pm
Anyone getting Pokemon Conquest?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on June 20, 2012, 07:48:27 pm
I don't have a 3DS, so no.  :sigh:


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 21, 2012, 08:18:27 pm
Flipz: It's not for the 3DS. =P It, alongside Black/White 2, are pretty much the final DS games... or so we can hope. =P So, since I'm guessing you at the very least have a DS because of mentions of Pearl and HGSS and such, you can play that, and the Gen 5 games. +)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on June 21, 2012, 08:38:39 pm
1: Why the heck are they not making Black 2 and White 2 for 3DS? We've got a ton of mainstream Pokemon DS games already! Everything from DPP onwards! :/

-1 respect points for Pokemon B2/W2. But as long as it has a decent postgame, I'll be happy...

2: Not sure if I should get Conquest...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 22, 2012, 08:37:47 am
1. Because Generation 5 is the DSi generation. Note that all the gen 5 games have been DSi enhanced. ;) It's also because the jump to the 3DS will likely require a lot more changes, more than an in-generation change; it'll require Generation 6, more or less.

Also, it'll have way more than just a 'decent' postgame. They're packing tons of stuff into this game, so much I can't really summarize it yet. =P

2. I haven't played it yet, but it's a good idea to, always good to have SRPGs. =D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on June 26, 2012, 08:33:34 pm
I need a Pokemon that both resists Psychic moves and also has access to at least one Fighting-type move at a reasonable level.  In Emerald.  Pre-Norman.  (In other words, I need a counter for Spinda, my Blaziken can handle the rest of the gym, I think.)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 26, 2012, 08:40:35 pm
You willing to use Rock Smash, and train up an Aggron?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on June 26, 2012, 08:43:45 pm
I have an Aron, so maybe.  I really wish I had those Gen V Dark/Fighting types now, though.  :D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 26, 2012, 08:47:08 pm
Well, it's pretty much either that or Skarmory, and Skarmory only gets Rock Smash as well.(Aggron gets Focus Punch and Brick break, but Brick Break isn't until Sootopolis, and Focus Punch just fails. =P)

Yeah, Scrafty seems like an interesting Pokemon, though you'd also want it to be the BW2 version; it gets some good Move Tutor moves in there. =P

Also, you'll want a lightning type for the next gym, some sort of dark move using Pokemon for the gym after that, and the same lightning type for the last gym. Avoid Blaziken in the two gyms that need lightning types. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on June 26, 2012, 09:06:33 pm
Right now I have access to Electrike and Plusle and Minun as far as electric-types, though I think Chinchou might be out in the ocean once I beat Norman.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 27, 2012, 09:23:34 am
I forget if you have access to the Safari Zone before the next gym, if you do, you can find a Pikachu there.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on June 27, 2012, 08:15:35 pm
OK, took the Root fossil 'cause I like Cradily better, even though I'll never actually use it. :P

Is it possible to breed any good Fighting moves onto Aron?  Because I have a female with a Gentle nature, so I can stick it in the Daycare and breed off of it.

While I'm at it, is there anything particularly good I can breed onto a Mudkip?  I DO have a female, after all, so (again), Daycare.

EDIT: OK, nothing that will be particularly helpful here, though it is interesting to see that Aron can have both Body Slam and Smelling Salts bred onto it, allowing for a cycle of paralyze-mega damage-repeat.  Might be useful for Final Four.

I put a list of a potential Final Four team on the last page, care to take a look at it again?  (copied here for convenience)
Thinking ahead to Final 4, Blaziken can take the Ice-types and the Dark-types with minimal fuss, and I'm thinking of switching Grovyle for Cacturne, which should deal with the Ghost-types.  I want an Ice-type of my own to deal with the dragons, which would you suggest?  (Keep in mind what I can and can't get pre-Elite Four.)  Finally, I can either use Cacturne on the Water-types and just deal with the damage, or, preferably, I need a Pokemon with an Ability that renders it completely immune.  Is there anything like than in Emerald?

EDIT 2: OK, looks like Lombre with Mega Drain and Leech Seed is my best bet, I'll just have to remember to switch to Cacturne (Pin Missile/Needle Arm/Faint Attack/Spikes) for Tentacruel and the enemy Ludicolo (weak to Pin Missile).  My Ice type will be Glalie.  That leaves me with two Pokemon slots open, who do I use as backup?

So right now I have planned:

Blaziken Lvl. ~60 @ ???
??? Nature
-???
-???
-???
-???

Cacturne Lvl. ~60 @ ???
??? Nature
-Pin Missile
-Needle Arm
-Faint Attack
-Spikes

Lombre Lvl. ~60 @ ???
??? Nature
-Mega Drain
-Leech Seed
-???
-???

Glalie Lvl. ~60 @ ???
??? Nature
-???
-???
-???
-???

??? Lvl. ~60
??? Lvl. ~60


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 27, 2012, 08:45:35 pm
You can get the second later anyway. =P

No, not in Emerald. They're all normal moves. =/

Well, ther's Ice Ball, but... Well, you don't have access to it. =P Other than that, there's Stomp and Uproar, neither really 'good'...

Honestly, it doesn't look like there were many good egg moves in RSE. 0_o


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on June 27, 2012, 11:52:34 pm
Aah, managed to edit four minutes after you already posted!  :facepalm:

Here, I'll repost:
EDIT: OK, nothing that will be particularly helpful here, though it is interesting to see that Aron can have both Body Slam and Smelling Salts bred onto it, allowing for a cycle of paralyze-mega damage-repeat.  Might be useful for Final Four.

I put a list of a potential Final Four team on the last page, care to take a look at it again?  (copied here for convenience)
Thinking ahead to Final 4, Blaziken can take the Ice-types and the Dark-types with minimal fuss, and I'm thinking of switching Grovyle for Cacturne, which should deal with the Ghost-types.  I want an Ice-type of my own to deal with the dragons, which would you suggest?  (Keep in mind what I can and can't get pre-Elite Four.)  Finally, I can either use Cacturne on the Water-types and just deal with the damage, or, preferably, I need a Pokemon with an Ability that renders it completely immune.  Is there anything like than in Emerald?

EDIT 2: OK, looks like Lombre with Mega Drain and Leech Seed is my best bet, I'll just have to remember to switch to Cacturne (Pin Missile/Needle Arm/Faint Attack/Spikes) for Tentacruel and the enemy Ludicolo (weak to Pin Missile).  My Ice type will be Glalie.  That leaves me with two Pokemon slots open, who do I use as backup?

So right now I have planned:

Blaziken Lvl. ~60 @ ???
??? Nature
-???
-???
-???
-???

Cacturne Lvl. ~60 @ ???
??? Nature
-Pin Missile
-Needle Arm
-Faint Attack
-Spikes

Lombre Lvl. ~60 @ ???
??? Nature
-Mega Drain
-Leech Seed
-???
-???

Glalie Lvl. ~60 @ ???
??? Nature
-???
-???
-???
-???

??? Lvl. ~60
??? Lvl. ~60


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 28, 2012, 11:13:59 am
There's no-one that gets Water Absorb in Emerald before the Elite 4. Your best bet is to just train up something to take the damage, or, more preferably, take an electric type to the league and obliterate everything. =P

Blaziken Lvl. ~60 @ Charcoal
Any(Preferably Adamant or so, but it doesn't matter) Nature
-Sky Uppercut
-Blaze Kick(Might not activate on physical; stupid move categories based on type mechanic...)
-Earthquake if you can handle not using it on anything else(TM)
-Filler

Aggron Lvl. ~60 @ Leftovers?
Adamant Nature
-Iron Tail
-Dragon Claw(TM)
-Take Down(Replace with Double Edge if Aggron levels to 63 during fights)
-Brick Break(TM)

Lombre(Evolve after you get Hydro Pump, use a Water Stone) Lvl. ~60 @ Water Charm thingy. Charcoal's counterpart.
Modest Nature
-Mega Drain
-Leech Seed
-Hydro Pump
-Ice Beam(TM)

Glalie Lvl. ~60 @ Nevermeltice
Modest Nature
-Ice Beam
-Blizzard
-Water Pulse
-Protect

Flygon Lvl. ~60 @ Anything
Adamant Nature
-Dragonbreath
-Crunch
-Iron Tail(TM)
-Secret Power

Gardevoir Lvl. ~60 @ Magnet
Any Special Attack raising Nature
-Psychic
-Shadow Ball
-Flamethrower
-Thunderbolt

That helpful? =)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on June 28, 2012, 12:15:00 pm
Very. ;D

Is there any way I can breed/chain breed some of those TM moves onto the Pokemon?  Specifically Aggron; I'm going to have to do some breeding anyway in order to get an Adamant instead of a Gentle, so I might as well save myself a couple of TMs in the meantime.  [/issogladBWdidawaywithTMbreaking]


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 28, 2012, 12:39:38 pm
Yes, but only if the TM Moves are on the male, they don't get passed down otherwise. And, well, you have to make sure that the moves don't get pushed off by the moves.

However, take note you probably don't have either of those yet. You get brick Break in Sootopolis, so that's definitely not obtained yet. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on June 28, 2012, 12:49:47 pm
I've been to sootopolis already, that's the Fire-type gym where Marshtomp owned everybody. :P Never mind, I haven't been there. :P

A quick reference online showed that neither Brick Break nor Dragon Claw can be passed to Aggron by breeding, so it looks like it's time to do some TM-duping. :P

EDIT 2: DUDE!  Norman problem solved.  I just use Shedinja on Spinda!  Easy!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 28, 2012, 01:24:15 pm
Watch out for confusion, that can destroy Shedinja still. ;)

It won't list TM moves typically. Plus, if you look closely, I never doubled up on any of the TMs. And any that I did by accident, can likely be bought from the Lilycove Department store. =P

No, you haven't been there, trust me; it's the eighth gym city. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on June 28, 2012, 01:33:36 pm
As long as Shedinja is faster than Spinda, I can just use the Yellow Flute until Teeter Dance runs out of PP. ;)

Actually, the online calculator I used is specifically designed to reduse TM usage; I'll give you a link:
http://waitingforseedot.appspot.com/
It's only fourth-gen, but still.  Useful. :P





Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: mtmerrick on June 28, 2012, 03:06:53 pm
(http://www.majhost.com/gallery/mtmerrick/misc/militarypokemoncensored.jpg)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 28, 2012, 03:17:26 pm
Flipz: A calculator? How's it supposed to reduce TM usage? 0_o

MTM: That would be awesome; what better way to win, than ripping the opponents apart with time? =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on June 28, 2012, 06:34:59 pm
Blade: It searches through potential breeding chains and finds ways to chain-breed the moves onto the desired Pokemon rather than using a TM on it.  So if, for example, you wanted to put Earthquake on a Pokemon, it would try to bring Earthquake through Torterra to some other pokemon in order to get it on the desired Pokemon.  Thus saving TMs.

Again, I can't WAIT until I get to B/W with unlimited TM usage. ;D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 28, 2012, 07:58:18 pm
Ah, I did that manually when I played Gen 3. And I just found the closest person in Gen 4. =P

But yeah, unlimited TMs are definitely awesome. =D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on June 28, 2012, 08:18:32 pm
Aha, I see where you've been hiding! I have a BZPower account now, you cannot hide from me!  >:D

Back to Emerald, I'm working on leveling up that Nincada (up to Level 11 now), while at the same time keeping on the lookout for some of those rare 2% chance Polemon (i.e. Plusle for now).  Once I have a Shedinja, I'll go ahead and take on the gym, between Shedinja and Blaziken I should have no problems. :wink:


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 28, 2012, 08:20:27 pm
I noticed. =P

Good luck fighting a level 40ish Pokemon with a level 20 Shedinja. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on June 28, 2012, 11:01:48 pm
:P

And so, naturally, the third Pokemon I find in the grass is a female Plusle. ^_^  Woot!  Now to go traipsing around some other routes looking for rare Pokemon. :P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 29, 2012, 08:32:43 am
... Oh. Plusle? Err... *Backs away slowly* I just remembered something about Plusle, actually... I believe... It's available in a trade later on...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on June 29, 2012, 05:06:31 pm
... Oh. Plusle? Err... *Backs away slowly* I just remembered something about Plusle, actually... I believe... It's available in a trade later on...

Yeah, but if you recall from my search for Seedot, I'm kinda obsessive about catching Pokemon as soon as humanly possible. :P  Besides, I don't think that one's female. ;)

Speaking of which, I'm going to go the city with the gym with Brawly (too lazy to look up the name right now) and go into Granite Cave and Rock Smash stuff until I get a Nosepass, preferably female.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 29, 2012, 05:08:51 pm
1. Touche. =P

2. Ah, right, you need Rock Smash, forgot about that.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on June 29, 2012, 07:08:36 pm
Nosepass finally caught.  I'd prefer a female, but at this point I'm just going to be thankful I have one at all.  (Feebas is going to be a PAIN. >_< )


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 29, 2012, 07:36:36 pm
I wouldn't even try; it is a pain, and I was lucky to get mine, and not have to need to get more now. =P

Also, you do realize you get a Ditto in the postgame, right?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on June 29, 2012, 08:45:04 pm
Yeah, but that's like...forever and a half away.  And I barely walked into the Sevii Islands for like two seconds after beating the champion in FireRed before I got tired of the whole thing and just dropped it.  Granted, Emerald is a _LOT_ more fun than FireRed, but I'm not entirely sure how much energy I want to put into the postgame when I'm already dying to jump into HG and later White (White is the version with the White Forest area, right?).


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 29, 2012, 09:01:14 pm
Well, you'll still have the Battle Frontier, but that can be frustrating, since it's the Hax Frontier and all. =P But that's true.

And yes, White is the White Forest area(Since, you know, it says White in the title and all. =P); and both of those are the opposites to my versions. =P

/EDIT: In fact, didn't you mention you had Pearl? 0_o


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on June 29, 2012, 09:07:32 pm
I played Platinum, that was my intro to Pokemon. ;)  I'm waiting on HG because it happens AFTER the Gen III games, and I'm wanting to play this stuff in chronological order.  From what I can tell, FR/LG and R/S/E happen at the same time, then HG/SS and D/P/PT happen at the same time, and then B/W happen and then B2/W2 happen.  Right?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on June 29, 2012, 09:10:56 pm
Random: Why is the HG/SS release still in the "Upcoming events"?
I think I'll get White 2, since I already have Black.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on June 29, 2012, 09:28:20 pm
But then you'll get Zekrom again... ???

I plan to play White and then White 2.  Yes, there will be a few pokemon I'll miss that way, but most of those I can probably get from Dream World (assuming I can access it. :/ )


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 30, 2012, 10:52:12 am
Flipz: Ah, I see. *Nods* And that seems to be the case. B/W definitely happen a while after Hoenn and Kanto and Sinnoh, that's for sure, and since the Johto events happen more or less parallel to the Sinnoh events... That means B/W's after everything, and then BW2 is 2 years later. The problem is, the timeline's confused, since they don't actually cite what time these things happen at. =P

Truth: Never delinked it, though it's not an upcoming release calendar, just an event linked to the topic. I should fix that eventually.

You should get Black 2; they flipped the cover legends so that Black Kyurem's in Black 2, and White Kyurem's in White 2. If you get White Two, you'll effectively have double Reshiram across the universe. =P Besides, there's a reasoning for getting Black 2, if you got Black, but I don't want to explain, because it'd spoil things. =/

Flipz 2: Actually, he'll get Reshiram again; they flipped the cover legends in the originals. =P

But yeah, that's a wise idea. Trust me on that, try not to look up spoilers for the story, and try to time the playthrough so you can start White 2 right after you finish White. I can likely help with any Pokemon you'd need to get there. =)

Did you get past the gym, by the way? Or are you going for as best a completion rate as possible, Pokemon wise?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on June 30, 2012, 12:47:17 pm
I'm being a completionist.  (That, and I'm still working on getting Shedinja--it's a simple set, Scratch/Leech Life/Fury Swipes/Fury Cutter, but it'll get the job done.)  Once I have that reliable counter to Spinda, I'll take Norman by storm, since Bulk Up + Double-Kick will brutalize everything he has.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 30, 2012, 03:37:08 pm
Hmm, that might work, maybe. Does Spinda outspeed your Blaziken or something?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on June 30, 2012, 06:07:58 pm
No, I'm just deathly afraid of Psychic-type attacks. :P  Do keep in mind, almost every starter I've owned has been a Grass-type, so... :P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on June 30, 2012, 06:21:46 pm
If you out-speed and out-power it, it doesn't matter what you do; that thing's going down.

In fact, I was honestly more scared of the Slaking. Despite their ability, they still pack a punch.

Besides, it's only 2x effective; what's your Blaziken's level? =p


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on June 30, 2012, 10:47:34 pm
Blaziken's just shy of 30, Grovyle's just shy of 39 I think.  Double-kick will decimate Slaking, since it's super-effective, gets STAB, and hits multiple times; I'll Bulk Up in the "warm-up" turn, then Double-Kick it to kill it.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 01, 2012, 10:30:09 am
Oh, so you're going to let something die for you? Because it goes 'attack, pause, attack'; not 'pause, attack, pause'. ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on July 01, 2012, 03:31:40 pm
Oh, dang.  :/  Yeah, I can do that, maybe have Shedinja take it.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 01, 2012, 04:08:28 pm
My advice; bring along an unneeded Pokemon; use it to revive everyone. That's what I always do.

Unless you're doing a Nuzlocke at the same time. Then you just have to hope that things don't go badly. =|


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on July 02, 2012, 07:04:38 pm
I don't think Flipz is doing a nuzlocke based off how he catches pokemon like seedot in emerald. =P Though I am not sure if you can do this in nuzlocke, I generally save before the battle so I can restart if I need to rethink my strategy or if I get critical hitted a ton (which is far from uncommon).

It seems like black 2 is a direct sequel of black, and white 2 of white, based main characters in both games. This time you can access both black city and white forrest in both games, and there are not too many other large differences. Though I want a more modern world so I will probably do black 2 first, I will end up doing both eventually.

So what eeveelution are you planning on getting, if you are planning on getting one, and what do you think of the challenge/assist mode?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 02, 2012, 07:33:31 pm
1. It was mostly just a 'in general' type of thing. =P

2. Oh, it is. However, you need to link with another game to access White Forest in Black 2, and vice versa. =P

3. Maybe Glaceon or so, but not right at first, obviously.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on July 02, 2012, 09:20:01 pm
I forgot the part where you needed both games, a side effect of speed reading serebii =P I also will probably get glaceon, in part because I think most people will get umbreon or magic bounce espeon, and it is something different. Though that magic bounce espeon is very tempting.

I always plan out my team/movesets, and my team idea so far is lucario, zoroark, espeon/glaceon, zangoose, drifblim/gliscor/crobat/some-pokemon-with-fly, and stunkfisk. I generally try to avoid type overlaps and try to get both fly and surf in. I also may change my mind and use only pokemon like stunkfisk, for more of a challenge and to play through a different way than normal.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 04, 2012, 09:37:00 am
Yeah. Or, in Serebii's case, a situation of staying up for like 3 days straight. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on July 06, 2012, 02:57:13 pm
I also may try an eeveelution team, but going without fly for some parts or the game is going to be a pain, if I go the eeveelution route.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on July 06, 2012, 06:21:05 pm
Aren't there seven Eveelutions, though?  Which one would you have to give up?

*starts counting Eveelutions*

Flareon, Jolteon, Vaporeon, Umbreon, Espeon, Leafeon, Glacegon.  Yep, 7 Eveelutions.  If I had to pick out one as being somewhat less useful than the others, I'd have to go with Flareon, since it has such a limited moveset, but then again if you're going Eveelution-only...

...wait, are you going to be getting them as normal-ability Eveelutions, or are you getting Dream World abilities for them all?  Is straight-up Evee available from Dream World with its Dream World ability?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on July 06, 2012, 08:59:35 pm
I would probably give up umbreon, due to it being much worse in-game than any of the others, even flareon. It is not too great in competitive/battle subway, compared to espeon, jolteon, vaporeon, or even leafeon in the sun, though that is not a huge concern to me.

And flareon has a great 130 attack, even though it's movepool is limited, and 95 special attack isn't too bad, especially in-game. Umbreon had 65 attack and 60 special attack, and defensive pokemon are not too useful in-game, or even the battle frontier/subway. Mean look baton pass is a very cool idea, though I don't think I will be doing a team like that.

And as far as dream world abilities, ice body vs snow cloak on glaceon is very irrelevant, for leafeon I want chlorophyl (this one could go either way), espeon magic bounce, and the elemental stone evolutions the non dream world abilities. You get dream world abilities from hidden hollows, though I could easily just skip that and make leafeon have leaf guard.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Wantija$$$ on July 07, 2012, 01:20:28 pm
Anyone have any evolutionary stones (preferably water stones)? I finally got wifi working on my DS and I'm a bit impatient to to search for dust clouds in caves... so if you're willing to trade my FC is 0690 4568 2226.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 07, 2012, 02:03:55 pm
Aren't there seven Eveelutions, though?  Which one would you have to give up?

*starts counting Eveelutions*

Flareon, Jolteon, Vaporeon, Umbreon, Espeon, Leafeon, Glacegon.  Yep, 7 Eveelutions.  If I had to pick out one as being somewhat less useful than the others, I'd have to go with Flareon, since it has such a limited moveset, but then again if you're going Eveelution-only...

...wait, are you going to be getting them as normal-ability Eveelutions, or are you getting Dream World abilities for them all?  Is straight-up Evee available from Dream World with its Dream World ability?
Two are only available post-game; the rest are feasible, if you wish to spend hours catching 6 Eevees at Castelia. =P You could just swap out the Eevee for a flier.

Also, I wish that my base Black City had evolution stones. It had it for a little while, but my Black City reverted to base state after not being played for months. =/ Bad, because I'm starting to evolve all my Pokemon, specifically all the old Pokemon from Kanto and so. xD

Though, that's lucky: I can just migrate from HGSS, if I really need to. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on July 07, 2012, 02:49:06 pm
I haven't even done kanto in hgss, I have been too lazy =P

I may trade the stones in via pokemon white. How early do you get to castelia in white 2/black 2? Is it before the daycare?

and having 5 eeveelutions and one flier wouldn't be fun


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 07, 2012, 05:22:21 pm
I... Actually have no clue where the Day Care is in Black 2 and White 2. 0_o I'd assume they'd've moved it, since you don't get access to Skyarrow until the post-game, but...

But you get to Castelia around the same time you do in Black/White 1, from what I've read.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on July 08, 2012, 09:34:14 am
If I recall correctly, you have to go through the sewers to get to where you find eevee, and the sewers aren't accessible until later. I am not sure how I am going to do it, or if I even now. I may go back to the stunfisk team idea.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 08, 2012, 02:50:19 pm
The Sewers are accessible right from the start; you can't even fight the gym until you go into them, from what I recall. =P

Given that Eevee was one of the earliest things located, it's definitely there. You're thinking of the gift Eevee from Fennel; that's not available until post-game, but the traditional ability Eevees are available very early on.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on July 08, 2012, 03:03:01 pm
Do you know when hidden hallows is accessible? I really want magic bounce espeon =P Though an eeveelution game is looking good


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 08, 2012, 06:33:13 pm
After you get to Nimbasa City or so, I believe.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on July 08, 2012, 07:18:50 pm
I will do movesets at a future date when I get really bored =P

So does anyone have any shinies?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 08, 2012, 08:54:15 pm
Movesets? =P

I have about 4; not including the 4 event ones given out for HGSS, but including the Red Gyarados(If only because I caught one previously, back on one of my Emerald or Sapphire files. =P Was looking for a Feebass, got something even better.).


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on July 08, 2012, 11:48:41 pm
I found a shiny shelmet in white. Now it is a shiny accelgor which is awesome. Through 9001 resets in platinum I got a shiny darkrai. I tried for rotom, but it didn't work out for me and I gave up. I also got a shiny eevee at one point which is an umbreon now. I believed I chained trophy garden, but I really am not sure. It is very pretty. I can't think of anything else on the top of my head. I of course have raikou/entai/suicune shiny.

I will do movesets probably tomorrow or tuesday, depending on how much I feel like studying and/or tf2ing. Maybe longer than that. When I don't plan myself out I am extremely inefficient =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Wantija$$$ on July 09, 2012, 07:20:51 am
Through 9001 resets in platinum I got a shiny darkrai.

This is what I don't have patience for with shinies (and I'm fully aware of the over 9000 meme). I tried to to do that as well but gave up after 50 tries. The only shiny I've ever gotten was a shiny Darumaka which I found only 3 hours into Pokemon White. Not counting Red Gyrados or shiny event pokemon.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 09, 2012, 08:30:51 am
Well, this is funny, because all three(Four if you count Shiny Gyarados) of my shinies came from my SoulSilver file(Still haven't reset it because of that. =D).

I found a shiny Pidgey right at the start of the game, perfect nature and all. Was pleasantly surprised, it became a key member of my team throughout the rest of the game, though admittedly not EV trained. Should fix that in BW2.
Then, after going through the entire game without finding anything else shiny(Aside from obviously the Red Gyarados)... Training outside Red's hideout; and I found a Shiny Rapidash. Raised an eybrow, nodded amused, caught it after a few Pokeballs(And was thankful that I didn't run out.).
Then, if that wasn't enough, a few days later, same place, I ran into a Shiny Ursaring, and my reaction could be summed up by this emoticon: O_O Needless to say, it was caught rather quickly. =P

I anticipate getting a good few shinies in BW2, however. =P And that that'll be the game that I work on getting every single Pokemon to level 100, in living Pokedex form. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on July 09, 2012, 11:06:13 am
Which shinies do you think look best?

I'd say charizard, umbreon, mightyena, metagross, mew, entai, deoxys, victini, and accelgor off the top of my head in no particular order.


I may have some other shinies I am forgetting, but I will worry about that later.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 09, 2012, 12:56:10 pm
Definitely not Garchomp. =P

I like Charizard, Rayquaza, and Haxorus' shiny colours, though.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on July 09, 2012, 01:49:46 pm
garchomp looks better shiny that dragonite =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 09, 2012, 02:45:22 pm
At least you can tell that Dragonite's actually shiny. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on July 09, 2012, 03:17:32 pm
Lucario's shiny form is EPIC.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on July 09, 2012, 03:20:53 pm
Garchomp sparkles and looks better =P

Edit: thought I timed out, didn't see flipz's post. I think Regular lucario looks better, or the white coloration in brawl =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 09, 2012, 03:23:20 pm
Garchomp is the same colour, more or less. Heck; it matches the official artwork perfectly, which isn't too different from the sprite's colouring. =P

Flipz: I guess it is; I kinda like it's typical colouring, but I do have to admit the yellow colour fits it rather well, once you get used to it. =)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on July 09, 2012, 03:27:34 pm
but it isn't an ugly green =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 09, 2012, 03:29:48 pm
I may like lime green; but I direct your attention to Ursaring's shiny colour. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on July 09, 2012, 03:34:06 pm
I am going to make a chart:
Good greens:
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/3/38/Spr_4d_217_m_s.png) (cooler than dnite)
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/8/86/Spr_5b_381_s.png)

Bad green:
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/d/d3/Spr_5b_149_s.png)

My opinion on greens =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 09, 2012, 03:37:54 pm
Technically Latios is turquoise, or more of an aqua green. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on July 09, 2012, 03:41:45 pm
::)

Preliminary Movesets.

Flareon:
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/3/3b/Spr_5b_136.png)
Nature: Lonely
Moveset:
Superpower(dig until I get it)
Firefang
Fireblast/heat wave

Strength/return (return later on)

Analysis:
Physically Based Mixed Set, not too much going on. Superpower is a nice touch, and I am going ot use heatwave once I get it for the higher pp/accuracy. Firefang is there because flareon really needs flareblitz. Return ads some decent neutral coverage.




Leafeon:
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/6/6d/Spr_5b_470.png)
Nature: Adamant(or maybe Jolly)
Moveset:
Swords Dance
Leaf Blade
X-Scissor
Return


Analysis: Pretty much standard swords dance set. Will most likely trade to evolve because waiting until postgame is no fun. Not sure about adamant vs jolly.




Glaceon:
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/8/89/Spr_5b_471.png)
Nature: Modest( could go timid)
Blizzard/icebeam
Signal Beam
Shadow Ball
Hyper Voice

Analysis: If I were to choose one of these to be shiny, it would be glaceon. Though this is the most viable ingame attacking set in my opinion. Ice is a cool stab. Will trade to evolve.




Jolteon
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/c/c1/Spr_5b_135.png)
Nature: modest
Thunder/thunderbolt
Hyper voice
Shadow ball
Signal Beam


Analysis: A much faster slightly weaker Glaceon with an electric stab =P




Vaporeon
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/7/7a/Spr_4d_134.png)
Nature: Most likely modest
Surf
Icebeam
Hyper voice/signal beam/heal bell
Shadow Ball

Analysis: I am not sure about this being the bet set. Probably the best for ingame. Will most likely act as a tank for me.




Espeon
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/6/66/Spr_4h_196.png)
Nature: Modest
Psychic
Psyshock
Grass Knot
Shadow ball/Hyper Voice/Signal Beam


Analysis: This set allows me to use espeon's stab on special walls with psyshock, as long as they don't resist. Not sure about which moves to use yet.



Feedback/advice would be much appreciated



Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 09, 2012, 03:47:53 pm
Technically you won't get getting Leafeon or Glaceon at the start... It, like the Day care Center, is only available pre-game if you have the ability to trade things in, since it's otherwise post-game.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on July 09, 2012, 03:57:13 pm
Shiny Tangrowth is awesome, too. :P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 09, 2012, 04:05:33 pm
Both are blocked off; Twist Mountain because of a certain something being in the basement, and Pinwheel Forest because singing kids riding a herd of Crustle are doing repair work on Skyarrow Bridge. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on July 09, 2012, 04:47:31 pm
finished the preliminary movesets. didn't take too long.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 09, 2012, 04:48:48 pm
I believe Vaporeon's good as a wall, but I think those are good movesets for in-game; though you'll need to trade Glaceon and Leafeon in; or at least their eggs, hatch and trade back, evolve, and then trade back again.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on July 09, 2012, 04:54:52 pm
I do plan on hatching/catching then trading to evolve, then trading back probably holding a stone.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 09, 2012, 04:56:40 pm
Ah, I see. You can get stones at the World Tournament, which is just in Driftveil. So, about when you get to catch stuff in Hidden Hollows.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on July 09, 2012, 04:59:31 pm
I only on plan on hidden-hallowing espeon, and mayyybe leafeon depending on how picky I am being in october =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 14, 2012, 08:39:21 pm
Well, Espeon would be the first choice. You'd need to get the second Eevee later(And coincidentally, Fennel gives you a free one in the post-game. =P), since you can't get Leafeon early on.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: mtmerrick on July 18, 2012, 02:36:36 am
(http://art.penny-arcade.com/photos/i-PT2gQL2/0/L/i-PT2gQL2-L.jpg)



Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 18, 2012, 03:43:41 pm
Ouch. =/ I barely know anything about the TCG(Or rather, the new TCG, I've played the old TCG GB game many times. =P), but even I know both of those things mean you're not winning a single match. Period. -_-;


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Ddude The Insane on July 20, 2012, 02:25:05 am
Your anslysis post makes me miss B~T, wagner ;_;

I've never caught a shiny, personally. I encountered a shiny Machoke in Diamond, but I didn't really have any Pokéballs on me >___>

i'm amazed that in the over 500 hours I put into Emerald alone, I never encountered a shiny. Anyone here ever seen Pokérus? Me neither :P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 20, 2012, 07:23:34 am
>> << *Raises hand on both counts* Surprisingly, I believe both my first shiny and my first native account of Pokerus occurred on Emerald. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on July 20, 2012, 12:34:40 pm
*suddenly remembers that I've been neglecting Emerald again :[ *

I know I found a Shiny of something in my very original Platinum playthrough, think it was an Onyx or a Geodude.  That was on a friend's cart, though, so I didn't get to keep it.  :sigh:  And anyway, I was terrible at catching things then, so I accidentally killed it instead of catching it. :P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 21, 2012, 09:25:36 am
That's okay, I only just picked up Diamond again after ignoring it for the longest time. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on July 21, 2012, 03:29:52 pm
Yeah, think I'll play a little today. :)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 21, 2012, 03:37:14 pm
That's good, then. I might play Diamond later myself; I'm going to Canalave after I look all over for new places that I can now reach with surf, though, so I'm not too worried. I'll get there soon enough. And then the storyline(Or at least, what little story it has... I've been spoiled by Black and White. =P) kicks in fully.

The only regret I have, is now playing through Platinum, since the Distortion World is awesome. =D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on July 21, 2012, 04:50:15 pm
I'm still hunting down rares.  It turns out I'm missing Jigglypuff, Skitty, and Seveiper, so I'm heading around Mt. Chimney to hit Routes 114, 115, and finally 116.  I'll pop by Devon Co. and revive my Root Fossil once I get off of route 115.  By then, hopefully Nincada will be ready to give me a Shedinja.

Also, Swarms don't happen until after Final 4, right?  Because I'm not waiting that long for these Pokemon. :P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 21, 2012, 05:08:33 pm
I... believe so, but I can't find anything on them; which is odd.

Skitty's on the route you first find Nincada, though, I believe. You'll need it anyway, for a Meowth, after the E4.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on July 21, 2012, 09:54:38 pm
Got a female Seveiper, on to Jigglypuff and a Skitty or two! ;D

I'm considering buying a few more Repels and wandering around in the soot on route 113 for a while just to get the Black and White flutes, as well, just for my own ease of use.

EDIT: Aaaaaand realize I can't enter grass on Route 115 without Surf. -_- Oh, well, Skitty time, and it also looks like it's time to ditch a Pokemon for a few minutes so I can get Shedinja upon evolution. ;D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 21, 2012, 10:43:15 pm
I keep forgetting how early in the game you are; since I can get a Shedinja within about two minutes in my games. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on July 21, 2012, 11:06:27 pm
I'm tempted to soft reset until I get a female Lileep, you think I should?  It seems like a good idea to me, since I really like having female Pokemon...

EDIT: So naturally, first soft reset (for unrelated screw-up--I accidentally released my level 21 Taillow rather than storing it :facepalm: ) I get a female Lileep. ^_^  Rash, which is kinda useless, but I don't care, it's a female, which means I can breed for any Nature I want! ^_^


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 21, 2012, 11:23:41 pm
That's always the way. Like me wanting a Clefable, and getting a random Moon Stone. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on July 21, 2012, 11:43:01 pm
 >:D Mwahahahaha, a female Abra is finally mine!  As well as about four different males, Arena Trap is awesome!  >:D

And yet no freaking Skitty.  <_<  I'm going to EXP Share Shedinja up a few levels and if I don't have Skitty by then, I'll wait for the Swarm.  Sheesh, those cats are hard to get!

EDIT: Blast, I can't decide whether or not to give Combusken Quick Attack.  Erm...hmm...Was kind of relying on Bulk Up before, but now...

EDIT 2: Eh, no Quick Attack for now, but I'm cheatcoding in a bunch of Heart Scales soon in case I change my mind.  Blaziken is horribly slow for some reason, and hasn't fared well against the normal Trainers in the Gym, so I may regret it, but as long as I get a turn or two to set up Bulk Up, I should be OK...

EDIT 3: OH MY GOD YES FEMALE SEEDOT WHAT.  So excited! ^_^  Nuzleaf/Shiftry is now a viable option for later, though I think Cacturne still edges it out slightly.  If it weren't for certain types in the Final Four, though, I might be tempted to run an all-Grass team now, with different sub-types for type coverage (i.e. Breloom/Sceptile/Cacturne/Shiftry etc.). :P

I think I'll give Norman a shot tomorrow, after masstraining Combusken to about Level 36--or I could go to 39, learn Slash, and murder stuff, but that'd ruin my sweep of the Normal-types.  I really need to get the three starters trained properly, at least one of them should be at the final stage of evolution by now, I'm a bit disappointed in myself for that, really.  Once those three are trained into little beasts of terror to burn through normal trainers, I can focus on breeding and raising my F4 team from eggs, since that seems like it'll be the only way to guarantee a decent team.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 22, 2012, 10:53:12 am
Quick Attack should never really be an option, unless your name is Technician Scizor. =P

Raising Combusken to Level 39(and then evolving right after that battle) would work very well; though... What's your Combusken's current level?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on July 22, 2012, 02:48:47 pm
32, I think.  QA is an option because my Combusken is atrociously slow for some unfathomable reason, which is confusing to me. ???  I need a good moveset for all three Hoenn starters, keeping in mind that I only really want to use level-up moves, and that Sceptile needs to keep Leaf Blade because it's a Signature Move.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 22, 2012, 04:41:39 pm
A signature move? *teehee emoticon here* Maybe for Gen 3. =P

What's the Combusken's nature, though?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on July 22, 2012, 05:53:55 pm
Yes, I know Leafeon gets it in Gen IV, and who knows how many others in Gen V. ;)  Gen V has been absolutely brutal for Pokemon-specific moves, abilities, and type combinations, it's kind of sad. :/

Not sure, I'll get back on that in a minute. ;)

In the meantime, here's some help for your Diamond playthrough.  I don't know if you have the ability to export your save file to your computer, but if you figure out a way, you can use this guy's calculator to find the Feebas tiles for the current day. ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvEywzxomT8&feature=relmfu


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 22, 2012, 06:01:23 pm
Flipz: It's not just Leafeon; Gallade gets it as well, in Gen IV. =) But yeah... Though, there's one guaranteed move that's always be a signature... Sketch. =P

Hmm; I might try that. If I wish to, since I already have a Feebas(and nearly the potential to get one from the Pokewalker), over on HGSS. And likely Platinum too. =P Might try it though; I have nothing to lose. =) Well, maybe not that method, I don't have the potential to do so, unfortunately. Need to look into the AR, if only just for the save file backing up capability. Never using it for codes, though, even if it saves time.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on July 22, 2012, 06:03:38 pm
You have bunches of traded Pokemon on there, right?  You ought to look up how to manipulate the lottery to get multiple Master Balls, to transfer over to B2/W2. :P

EDIT: Combusken is Serious, which is a totally neutral Nature.

EDIT 2: So, do you have any good in-game movesets for the starters?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 22, 2012, 06:14:12 pm
Yeah... About that... You can't transfer items from Gen 4 to Gen 5, thanks to infinite TMs, and the TM move list changing in Gen 5. Otherwise I have infinite Master Balls on Emerald, thanks to the cloning glitch. =P I fully intend on getting as many Master Balls as I can on Black 2, however, since the Lottery returns. =P

Hmm, I don't know why your speed is not good, then... Maybe it'll change upon evolution...

Blaziken:

Peck
Sky Uppercut
Slash
Blaze Kick

Sceptile:

Leaf Blade
Slam
Pursuit
False Swipe(For catching Pokemon)

Swampert:

EQuake
Muddy Water
Take Down
Protect

Those are only using level up moves, too. =)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on July 22, 2012, 06:29:58 pm
All right, I can work with this!  Better yet, I don't think I'll have to use a move relearner, unless I messed up and overwrote Pursuit on Grovyle (unlikely, since it's been my only Dark-type move available until recently).

This should get me through a few gyms while I breed/train the F4 team I made up several pages back. :)

EDIT: Route 117 is AMAZING for training Blaziken, he's got a move for everything AND it's decent experience.  Grovyle is going to be a pain to train until I get surf, I'm ashamed to admit he may not be the first starter to evolve. :[

EDIT 2: Yeah, I'm just going to take on Norman, with Grovyle holding the party EXP Share for some experience.  I'll have expanded horizons then and can level up Grovyle on the water. ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 22, 2012, 06:49:22 pm
Just as a note, though, a lot of them are high level moves; so you might not have them all exactly in time for the E4, but most of them should be ready before then. =)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on July 22, 2012, 06:52:45 pm
You know, Spinda was more of a pain than Slaking--I had to deliberately let my Swellow get KO'd (taking MULTIPLE hits) for the free switch-in, and Combusken would have lived through that hit anyway.  Next time I try and train a Shedinja for any reason, the bloody thing had better have a Speed-boosting Nature--my Yellow Flute does nothing if Spinda can Teeter Dance before Sheddy can act. <_< 


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 22, 2012, 06:55:05 pm
I take it you beat him? =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on July 22, 2012, 07:08:37 pm
Yes I did, and I'm surprised at how easy it was. :P

I have a new problem now, though: who am I going to use as my surf-using HM slave?  I think I'll have access to Tropius soon, for Fly/Strength/whatever, though giving up Linoone will be tough (Pickup FTW).  Suggestions?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 22, 2012, 07:12:42 pm
Heh; it's not really that hard, no. =P

If you're maining a water Pokemon, just use that; Surf is the best move you can give a Water Pokemon; as Hydro Pump's inaccurate enough to not be useful in-game. Competitively, maybe, but not in-game. Surf's the better move there, and Muddy Water's technically just an in-between move for Surf. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on July 22, 2012, 07:28:09 pm
Muddy Water's technically just an in-between move for Surf. =P

I'm still going to use it over Surf on Swampert. :P

Bulbapedia took out their list of good HM Slaves.  Laaaaaaaaame. <_<  Guess I'll just grab a Goldeen and give it surf or something. <_<


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 22, 2012, 07:30:16 pm
Hmm. I'm not entirely certain if that's advisable, given it's accuracy and PP compared to Surf, but it's your decision, and Muddy Water does look cooler. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on July 22, 2012, 07:41:02 pm
Wait, Linoone can use Surf??  The. Heck.

Well, I'll replace Headbutt with that and keep Linoone until I need a new slave, then I'll move to Tropius/Crawdaunt, I think.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 22, 2012, 07:48:24 pm
Oh yeah, forgot to mention that. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on July 22, 2012, 10:04:01 pm
I try to have 6 viable non hm slave members on my team, even though it really is not needed at all, and I try to keep them all the same levels. It is an unnecessary challenge, but it makes the game more fun for me I guess.

Doesn't furret/sentret get surf also?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on July 22, 2012, 11:27:45 pm
Good grief, the normal Trainers are SO much more threatening than the Gym trainers! :[  I really need to go find a good Electric-type so I can own all the annoying bird-users; Flying-types hit four different team members for super-effective damage (one of which is always an instant KO), and my remaining two counters are my HM slave and my Swellow, which I have solely for the purpose of getting it into the Pokedex (though it's handy to have around when a Fighting-type shows up; then again, Combusken has Peck for that. :P )

Also, I don't have access to Sentret, AFAIK, I'm on Emerald.  I must say, I'm shocked at how many non-Water types get to use Surf; I remember it was a nightmare figuring out my HM Slaves in Platinum and FireRed.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 23, 2012, 07:16:57 am
Sentret's post-game, I believe.

And you have a hard time figuring out HM slaves in Platinum? 0_o I know I'm just walking into a set-up here, but... Bibarel. Best HM slave since Linoone. =P You can literally give him four HM moves, if you wish, including, I believe, Waterfall. Definitely Surf.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on July 23, 2012, 03:09:52 pm
Sentret's post-game, I believe.

And you have a hard time figuring out HM slaves in Platinum? 0_o I know I'm just walking into a set-up here, but... Bibarel. Best HM slave since Linoone. =P You can literally give him four HM moves, if you wish, including, I believe, Waterfall. Definitely Surf.

Bibarel/Tropius is THE best HM slave set, but it takes a while to get either of them, and at the time the Bulbapedia HM Slave article didn't list Bibarel for some unknown reason.  Ended up using a Geodude for Rock Smash and something else (can't remember what) for Cut, before I found a route where I could catch wild Bibarel.  (Because there was no way I was going to train up a Bidoof, I absolutely loathe their cry.)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 23, 2012, 03:15:38 pm
Catch a Bidoof for Cut(Mute it when you use their HM moves), keep it until you get to the route after Hearthome(Which isn't that far in), catch a Bibarel, get rid of the Bidoof and teach it's moves to the Bibarel, and then keep that for eventually Surf and such.

What I want to know, is why you get the Strength HM over 4 gyms before you can use Strength. >_<


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on July 23, 2012, 03:21:44 pm
Catch a Bidoof for Cut(Mute it when you use their HM moves), keep it until you get to the route after Hearthome(Which isn't that far in), catch a Bibarel, get rid of the Bidoof and teach it's moves to the Bibarel, and then keep that for eventually Surf and such.

What I want to know, is why you get the Strength HM over 4 gyms before you can use Strength. >_<

I think it had something to do with the way they shuffled around Gym orders, but I'm not sure.  Out of all the Normal-type HM moves, though, it's the most useful in-battle, though.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 23, 2012, 03:27:50 pm
Oh, I agree, but you can't use Strength until after Canalave. It's like getting Waterfall in Petalburg... When you first head there. -_-


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on July 23, 2012, 04:08:30 pm
...I have Waterfall already?  *checks* Nope, not here.  Where in Petalburg would I find that HM?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 23, 2012, 04:41:00 pm
You don't; it was a figure of speech. xD It's just odd to me. =P

For the record, you get Waterfall when you logically should; after the 8th gym, when you can actually use it. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on July 23, 2012, 05:29:14 pm
Ugh, none of the Electric-types I can actually use have decent Electric-type moves. <_<  I need to do some hardcore training of an Electrike, looks like...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 23, 2012, 05:36:33 pm
What Pokemon do you have in your party currently?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on July 23, 2012, 06:18:12 pm
Currently I have Grovyle, Marshtomp, Linoone, Combusken, Swellow, and my Electrike-in-training.  However, I recently caught a Voltorb and Magnemite in New Mauville, so I may try them out if I get too tired of electrike training.  I definitely want to evolve electrike to a Manectric, though, just for the Pokedex.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 23, 2012, 06:28:17 pm
I think at that stage, the Electrike's the best option, considering Magnezone hasn't been invented yet. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on July 23, 2012, 10:31:36 pm
120 special attack and 70 speed vs 105 attack and 105 speed. both get terrible movepools in my opinion =P Magneton gets more bulk and is considerably stronger and slower. Manetric gets a much better movepool in later generations though.

If you are cool you can get a level 70someting bibarel, in whichever dpp you player, which happens to by his favorite pokemon. We even had a fan club for it's awesomeness.

What I generally do is keep my slaves in the pc and temporarily swap then out when needed.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 24, 2012, 09:56:12 am
>> << *Says nothing about how wrong wagner is remembering things* *Instead...*

I must be cool, then, I got a level 70 Bibarel, once. =P Then again, I plan on getting everything to Level 100 in the future, one Pokemon at a time.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on July 24, 2012, 10:49:24 pm
what did I get wrong this time =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 24, 2012, 11:12:10 pm
It wasn't him whose whose favourite Pokemon was supposedly Bibarel. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on July 24, 2012, 11:42:43 pm
So, should I wait for MTM's calculator fix and get Feebas, or should I continue on my way to Fortree and focus on training my starters?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 24, 2012, 11:47:22 pm
Continue to Fortree, head back when you can. It's easier that way. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on July 25, 2012, 12:32:05 pm
^_^ WOOT!

Went back to Route 115 to grab 6 Kelpsy Berries that I had accidentally killed by forgetting to pick them, then saving and turning off the game for the night.  I had watered them yesterday, so I knew I needed to go back today to pick up the berries.  Walked into grass, found female Jigglypuff.  Caught said Jigglypuff.  Celebrated, and saved multiple times to make sure it'd be safe.

Walked into the grass on Route 106 to go back towards Mauville and Fortree and found a female Skitty. ^_^


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 25, 2012, 12:41:07 pm
Congrats. =D

Been having some good matches; just lost barely to Alku, from BZP. I saved it onto my Versus Recorder, but you need B/W/B2/W2 to watch it, so I'm just gonna explain.

I stealth rock'd on the first turn, he set up curse. He did the same the second turn, except I roared. Sent out his Excadrill; he switched, I roared again. Dragged out his Garchomp, which I took out in two hits with Ice Beam. Sent his Excadrill out again, I tried and failed to get it dead(Should've gone straight to Garchomp instead of Infernape after this move, thought I could get in a hit first.); switched to Infernape, same thing; switched to Garchomp, took it down in one hit, though it outsped me because of the Sandstorm, I assume. So, therefore, when he switched to his initial Hippowdon again, I went straight to outrage. It took him down to nearly red, but he was able to hang on, and Ice Fanged my already low health Garchomp, and won.

But it was awesome. =D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on July 25, 2012, 12:51:11 pm
Man, that sounds epic.  I wish I had B/W/B2/W2 even more now.  Though having the game itself would still be useless to me, as I'd still not have wi-fi for it, so...

Well, I'm going to try and grab a Tropius or a Kecleon on Route 119 while I train up Electrike.  It's a rediculously slow process, though. :/  Also, at some point I need to grab Trapinch again and farm some more Abra from Route 106, since I really want a TwistedSpoon, plus I need more Pokemon of different Natures that have Synchronize (for obvious reasons, but especially for the Safari Zone once I get there, so I can abuse the Pokeblock system :P ).


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 25, 2012, 12:57:02 pm
I messed up one of the earlier fights, I used Stealth Rock twice; it only works once. =P You don't have a wireless router, though? It supports up to WPA 2(Trust me, I've done so. =P) on the DSi/3DS, so Black and White would work, if that is the problem. But it was rather cool; there are some good fights on Youtube from people who are better than me, and it can get rather epic, yes. =) Once I get my competitive team all to 100, then I can pull off no-holds-barred Level 100 battles again, though my team needs major redoing; I didn't really pay much attention to IVs when I made it; that's biting back now. -_-;

I see; a TwistedSpoon isn't required, but it's certainly nice to have.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on July 25, 2012, 01:02:03 pm
Put it this way: you need a password to use a secure router.  I don't have the password, I'm not the network administrator. ;)

I have an odd, special love for double battles.  I suppose part of this comes from the fact that in-game, it makes it VERY easy to spread experience among the party, and can lead to rapid level-ups for Pokemon in training (plus, if I paid attention to EV-training, it's an excellent way to spread EVs around, after all, all party Pokemon that fight a given enemy 'mon get the same EV yield, unless a specific 'Mon holds an item that increases the yield or has Pokerus).


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 25, 2012, 01:05:54 pm
Hmm... And you couldn't get a router of your own, specifically for using the DS? I'm not sure of the circumstances, that's all. =P

You're gonna be amazed when you finish Fortree City, then... Infinite Double Battles against Gabby and Ty. =D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on July 25, 2012, 01:24:34 pm
Yeah, no, remember my general-purpose computer access problems earlier?  The ones that, due to parental controls software, kept me from accessing the site for months? <_<   I count myself lucky that that particular issue is gone, I'm not going to press it by asking for DS wi-fi support, especially since the only purpose would be for Pokemon (something my family does not approve of). :/

Yeah, but don't they get tougher over time?  I need to powerlevel a bit more before I try to take them on. :P

Also, woot Sceptile!  Now I can use Combusken again, one or two more battles should be enough to level him up to 36 as well. ;D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 25, 2012, 01:29:37 pm
I see...

They eventually level off. =P

Nice. =D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on July 25, 2012, 01:33:21 pm
Did you see the suggestion I made about 30 seconds ago in CtaM?  I think it'd be epic. :P

Also, I'm inordinately scared of Trainers that look like they might be birdcatchers.  IDK why, Electrike has Thunder Wave and Spark now, so I should be able to deal with them, and yet I'm scared anyway. :P

Do you know of a good place to train Marshtomp, she's way behind Sceptile and Combusken, I can't really find a place where most of the Pokemon will be weak to Water and Ground moves. :/

EDIT: Gosh-DANG, Bird Keepers are obnoxious!  I had to waste three Super Potions trying to kill that danged Swellow (though the EXP award was almost worth it).


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 25, 2012, 01:50:02 pm
Just did; would be amazing. =D

Hmm, maybe I'm just overleveled all the time, but I never really care. If you have a fighter, then here's a hint; the normal typing of a Normal/Flying typed Pokemon removes the 'not very effective' status, allowing the move to hit at normal power. >=D Doesn't work if the second type's neutral to fighting, though.

A cave. =P Or the sandstorm route.

Yeah, they can be hard. I think I overleveled a lot. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on July 25, 2012, 02:07:53 pm
I officially hate Whirlwind.  Thank god I picked Lileep instead of Armaldo.  >:D

Actually, you know what, I just hate Route 119 in general.  It reminds me of all the WORST parts of FireRed and the one or two boring and obnoxious Routes in Platinum. >:(


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 25, 2012, 02:10:15 pm
Heh. Remember that comment for later on. =P

Let's put it this way, you haven't even gotten to the part people hate the most about Hoenn. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on July 25, 2012, 05:08:33 pm
Route 119 is the Mt. Coronet of Emerald.  An utterly useless, annoying route that you HAVE to walk through multiple times if you want to get anywhere on the East side of Hoenn.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 25, 2012, 05:27:05 pm
No, I think that prize still goes to another route or two, later on.

You haven't even gotten to the ocean. =P

Though, I won't disagree that the first trip through 119 is annoying, simply due to tons of trainers, no fly, and no healing spots.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on July 25, 2012, 05:56:31 pm
Well, the Weather Center will be fun, I get to pwn Team Aqua with Manectric, and Sceptile if things get too rough.  >:D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 25, 2012, 06:21:02 pm
Oh, right, the Weather Center. xD


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on July 25, 2012, 06:45:07 pm
Man, May isn't HALF as obnoxious as Gary and Barry were.  I actually enjoy fighting her.

The fact that I have a Marshtomp to pwn her with probably helps somewhat. :P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 25, 2012, 06:55:48 pm
Barry was obnoxious? Aside from the fining business and stopping you right when you're chasing a Galactic Grunt? =P

That said, she is kinda cool. Bianca's better. =) If only because... Well, you'll see. *Checks watch* You might want to hold off on going to Lilycove Department Store.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on July 25, 2012, 06:57:43 pm
Why?  Is there a time-of-day event or something?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 25, 2012, 07:02:13 pm
No... It's the last time you battle May in the game. They didn't even fix that in Emerald. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on July 25, 2012, 07:05:43 pm
Ah. :(  Oh, well, I still have to destroy the Fortree gym before I can move on. :P

EDIT: HAH!  My luck holds!  I saved after I got Castform, not thinking to check its gender before I saved.  It's female. ;D

How high should I level Manectric before trying the Gym?  And is there anything else of importance I need to do in Fortree?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 25, 2012, 07:12:27 pm
1. True. =P

2. Cool. =D

3. If it's around Level 35, level 36, you should be good; but watch out for Altaria. Hopefully you have a counter-dragon move.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on July 25, 2012, 07:19:33 pm
3. I, uh, er... :[

Nothing I have comes with Ice-moves, actually.  Anti-Flying moves will have to be enough.

EDIT: Absol, I hate you so much.  Freakin' Pokeball-eater. >:(


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 25, 2012, 08:03:01 pm
It's okay; I just wanted to check; the natural Ice Types aren't until later, so I didn't figure you had anything. =P It's doable; it'll just take longer, since it'll be neutral damage, instead of Super Effective. =)

Yeah, it's not easy to catch. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on July 25, 2012, 08:10:53 pm
Ah, I see.  Yeah, it'll be a pain, but I think I can take it.

EDIT: Altaria with Earthquake AND Aerial Ace is freaking broken in Gen III.  I eventually had to just PP-stall Altaria with Revives and Super Potions.  The annoying bit is is couldn't be the last Pokemon she sent out, no, she HAD to make me waste all my energy on it instead of on her other, easy-to-kill Pokemon. <_<  Well, I won anyway, so that's what matters.  All of my Pokemon probably hate me for letting me KO them now, though, so it looks like it's time to walk around a lot again to regain their trust... <_<


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 25, 2012, 09:05:55 pm
Happiness is so easy to earn, it's ridiculous. =P Besides, unless you're trying to evolve a Togepi or Golbat or something, it's not really needed, unless you insist on running Return on them. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on July 25, 2012, 09:56:06 pm
It's one of the things I do, I generally prefer to have any Pokemon I plan on running for a while to have max happiness. :P

Also WOOT MALE BABY IGGLYBUFF.  I'm going to level this cutie up enough to take the average wild Pokemon's Pursuit, and then put it in the front of my party to attract female Pokemon.  (Igglybuff/Jigglypuff has Cute Charm, which means there's always a 66.7% chance the wild Pokemon encountered will be female, no matter WHAT the normal gender ratio is.) ^_^


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 25, 2012, 10:05:59 pm
Ah, I see. *Nods* I typically get Max Happiness on my in-game team, simply from using them through the entire game. Then again, I'm the human bulldozer in the games, so that probably won't go for everyone. =P

That's pretty cool. =D

Also, I posted about my awesome battle just now, want me to give you the spoiler version in PM, since you won't be able to watch that fight? =)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on July 26, 2012, 01:26:53 am
Yes please! ;D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 26, 2012, 02:52:32 pm
Sent it to you earlier.

Also, it's clear I'm way outclassed. D=


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on July 27, 2012, 12:06:40 am
Argblgh, Tate and Liza will not make this easy for me, will they?  I'm finding it impossible to strategize.

Dark-types are a must, if only to render Lunatone completely useless, but Solrock is a pain in the %$^@#$@%#$.  Thing has Sunny Day, SolarBeam, Flamethrower, and Psychic; I can cancel out Psychic with a Dark-type, but Cacturne is weak to Flamethrower (especially a Sunny Day Flamethrower) and Carvanha/Sharpedo (or Crawdaunt, if I want to put the work into evolving Corphish) is weak to SolarBeam (and with Sunny Day, it'll be throwing those around with absolutely zero warning).  And I don't even want to try and throw Castform out there to try and control the weather, the little cloud won't stand a chance.

Current apparent team: Sharpedo/Cacturne, with Cacturne knowing its Final 4 moveset (Pin Missile/Needle Arm/Faint Attack/Spikes) and Sharpedo likely having Surf/Crunch/Dive/(filler move until I get Waterfall).  I know Mossdeep is a ways away, but frankly there won't be much of importance between Fortree and there, and if Magma or Aqua shows up to give me trouble I'll Super-Effective-Starter-them to death.  (Plus, given that I have to train these Pokemon from wild levels--or, if the Natures are bad, from scratch since I have females and can breed--I NEED to get started early, if only to take time to train.)

Since Cacturne is going to be a Final 4 Pokemon, I'm also going to play around with Nature and EVs; still don't care about IVs, since these ARE still just in-game Trainers I need to beat up.  Suggestions on training techniques and areas?

(For the record, I have a Calm Lv. 22 female Cacnea with Sand Veil, a Bashful Lv. 22 female Cacnea with Sand Veil, a Bold Lv. 23 female Carvanha with Rough Skin, and a Hardy Lv. 14 female Corphish with Shell Armor, none of them touched since I caught them.)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 28, 2012, 07:52:56 pm
It's just Lunatone and Solrock, right? Double Surf.

Even if it gets off a Sunny Day, it's hard to launch a Solar Beam, when you've already fainted. =P

I know you don't like Surf, for some reason, but it really is a great way to fight, especially in Gen 3, where Surf wasn't fixed to also attack your Ally in Double Battles. >=D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on July 28, 2012, 08:46:53 pm
They also have Xatu and Claydol, though those two won't be as scary.  Lunatone is a non-issue, as both of my intended Pokemon for this battle will be completely immune to all of its moves.  >:D

Any advice on specific Routes for EV-Training my Cacturne?  I'm going for a defensive-special set (Pin Missile and Spikes are physical, but Pin Missile doesn't need TOO much of a boost, and Spikes aren't affected by Attack anyway), so I'll want Special Attack, HP, and perhaps some Speed EVs to round Cacturne out.

Also, if I ever get White and White 2 and can manage it, I am TOTALLY getting a Cacturne with Water Absorb, it'd be great for a Doubles team I have in mind.  >:D  Are there three or four Pokemon in competitive Doubles teams?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 28, 2012, 09:13:56 pm
Claydol's no worry either; it falls quickly to double surfs as well, or Surf + Razor Leaf. =P Really, it's Xatu you should be worried slightly about, and an attack from the thing you used to wipe the floor with Winona will work. =P

Quote
HP - Whismur - Cave on Route 106
Attack - Carvanha - Route 119 (Super Rod)
Defense - Sandshrew/Skarmory - Route 113
Special Attack - Spinda - Route 113
Special Defense - Tentacool - Almost Anywhere you can surf
Speed - Zubat/Golbat - Cave of Origin
Look up to see how many EVs each give, and factor from there. =) Everywhere you can access has those Pokemon, though; Zubat are in almost any cave, after all. =P Also; remember, in Gen 3, the Phsyical/Special split hasn't happened... Is Bug type special, or physical? ;)

4 Pokemon, so you can have two sets. 3 for Singles, 4 for Doubles, 6 for Triples, and also 6 for Rotations and Launcher battles, which follow the Triple battle rules. Also, that'd be problematic, unless you somehow had a friend willing to help remedy your Wi-Fi trouble. =/


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on July 28, 2012, 09:56:47 pm
Claydol's no worry either; it falls quickly to double surfs as well, or Surf + Razor Leaf. =P Really, it's Xatu you should be worried slightly about, and an attack from the thing you used to wipe the floor with Winona will work. =P

Quote
HP - Whismur - Cave on Route 106
Attack - Carvanha - Route 119 (Super Rod)
Defense - Sandshrew/Skarmory - Route 113
Special Attack - Spinda - Route 113
Special Defense - Tentacool - Almost Anywhere you can surf
Speed - Zubat/Golbat - Cave of Origin
Look up to see how many EVs each give, and factor from there. =) Everywhere you can access has those Pokemon, though; Zubat are in almost any cave, after all. =P Also; remember, in Gen 3, the Phsyical/Special split hasn't happened... Is Bug type special, or physical? ;)

4 Pokemon, so you can have two sets. 3 for Singles, 4 for Doubles, 6 for Triples, and also 6 for Rotations and Launcher battles, which follow the Triple battle rules. Also, that'd be problematic, unless you somehow had a friend willing to help remedy your Wi-Fi trouble. =/

W/W2 will be totally impossible for me UNLESS I get into a housing/job situation where I can remedy that problem (read: I get a job and move into campus housing). ;)  Unless...say, have you ever tried to hook up a DS to a public library wi-fi?  (Or unless MTM stumbles across a working DSi/3DS emulator that can connect to the online Nintendo features. :P )

I did not wipe the floor with Winona, I PP-stalled her. :P  A STAB Carvanha-Crunch should do the bird in, or alternatively my EV-trained and advantageously-Natured Cacturne can STAB Faint Attack it to kill it.

@ the EV-list: OK, that'll be good, I should be able to get some good training done with that. ;D  Pin Missile is a Physical move in Gen III, but since both of Cacturne's STAB moves are Special in Gen III (the Grass-type Needle Arm and the Dark-type Faint Attack), a Special-oriented Cacturne will be great.  For modern games, though Cacturne will be Physically-oriented, since all of its moves will then be Physical.

I should ask: should I bother with defensive EVs on Cacturne, or will I be better off investing in HP?  I already know I'm going to be outsped no matter what I do, so there's no sense investing more than a few EVs in Speed.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 28, 2012, 10:20:28 pm
It's likely doable; if you have a DS, then it supports WEP, but above that, for BW/BW2, it supports WPA.

I mean for the stuff aside from the Altaria. =P

Ah, I see. *Nods*

Maybe. It might be an idea. I personally haven't trained a Cacturne yet. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on July 28, 2012, 11:08:52 pm
Here's Cacturne's base stats:
HP: 70
Attack: 115
Defense: 60
Sp.Atk: 115
Sp.Def: 60
Speed: 55

Total: 475

Also, is it possible to check IVs pre Final 4 in Emerald?

EDIT: Apparently not, fortunately there are calculators out there.  From the looks of things, this Quiet Cacnea looks quite promising, so I've started EV-training it.  (It was bred, FYI, so things are slightly wonky in that regard. :P  On the plus side, it starts with a higher Happiness right from the get-go.)

Cacnea (Lvl. 20)
Current EVs: 20 HP/61 Sp Atk/0 Atk
(20 HP/0 Atk/0 Def/61 Sp Atk/0 Sp Def/0 Spd)

Current IV ranges:
HP 25-29
Attack 17 - 23
Defense 15 - 19
Spec. Attack (x1.1) 15 - 19
Spec. Defense 15 - 19
Speed (x0.9) 5 - 14

Not too bad, considering I have almost no control over the process in Generation III, and that both Pokemon used for breeding had rather poor IVs to start with. :P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 29, 2012, 12:28:55 pm
Really, for in-game, it's not needed to EV Train, but it is good for the Frontier. =P

And you can't ever truly check IVs accurately, short of pulling the Pokemon data out and reading it yourself; though I don't think they have Level 100 battles in RSE/FRLG, I think it was only for the Gen 4 games...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on July 29, 2012, 02:51:54 pm
Really, for in-game, it's not needed to EV Train, but it is good for the Frontier. =P

Yeah, but if I EV-train, my Pokemon will completely outclass all of the in-game Trainers even if I'm only slightly ahead of them by level. ;)  Plus, aren't the Final 4's Pokemon EV-trained, or at least have scary high IVs?  EV-training will help level the score there. ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 29, 2012, 03:24:48 pm
You're thinking of the Frontier. The E4 are still in-game; and are more or less pushovers. =P

Though, there are some trainers in recent games that do have perfect IV Pokemon. Like Youngster Joey. The first non-rival trainer in HGSS. Like, really, what?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on July 29, 2012, 04:03:13 pm
Ah.  Well, still, I need every advantage I can get. :P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on July 29, 2012, 04:18:53 pm
Just get 99 Full Restores, and 99 Revives. =P Unless you can't buy those yet. But, you will before you get to the Elite Four, anyway. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on July 30, 2012, 12:03:00 am
I would try to get a starmie over sharpedo, though you need to go mossdeep first to get the super rod for staryu.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on July 30, 2012, 12:35:19 am
Sharpedo's Dark-type, though, gets STAB on Crunch and is immune to Psychic attacks, which renders one of their Pokemon useless and cripples all of the others except Solrock.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on July 30, 2012, 09:58:29 am
starmie has a more powerful surf, which important in the 7th gym, and more useful later on. It still resists psychic, while being much faster and having better special attack.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on July 30, 2012, 12:56:40 pm
Still not immune to Hypnosis, though. ;)  But I'll check it out.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: . on July 30, 2012, 10:58:47 pm
I thought hypnosis still worked on a dark type, as long as they don't have vital spirit/insomnia.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on August 04, 2012, 09:44:53 am
Well, I'm not sure. after all, Thunder Wave doesn't work on Ground types... It could be tested easily, of course, but I'm just not sure, especially because Hypnosis changes seemingly between every game. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on October 13, 2012, 09:31:59 pm
Well, looks like I'll be getting Starmie for later, though I'll still likely use Sharpedo for Tate and Liza.  Now it looks like I need to find all of my notes so I can keep training Cacnea...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 14, 2012, 03:20:23 pm
They should be in the recent pages, maybe.

Also, does anyone happen to know what's said after the 50th call in a certain sidequest in Black 2? The thing ends so quickly that I never got a chance to read it. D=

Speaking of which, I'm totally lost in that sidequest, but eh, I'd still say it's the absolute best sidequest in the history of Pokemon games. =)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Wantija$$$ on October 15, 2012, 05:06:30 pm
Rate my B2 team?

Servine Lv29
Darumaka Lv29
Psyduck Lv28
Magneton Lv30
Trapinch Lv30
Sigilyph Lv29

Just about to fight Clay, considering ditching Psyduck and Servine after Clay. Any good things that could replace them?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 15, 2012, 05:25:17 pm
Are you looking for Pokemon of the same types, to replace them? If not, well, I know for sure that Zoroark is an awesome addition. And since you get given a Zorua... =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Wantija$$$ on October 15, 2012, 06:30:52 pm
I completly forgot about the free Zorua that's currently residing in my box (plus iirc it's a hasty nature, could be a nice mixed sweeper). As for Psyduck, I just want a good water pokemon that isn't Starmie (used one in my LG, plus I want to mix things up a bit).


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 15, 2012, 07:25:59 pm
... Well... There's Buizel... Or Frillish... Hmm. Do you have access to Global Link? If so, I'd recommend going through the Sparkling Sea to find a Magikarp, and train that up to a Sheer Force Gyarados. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Wantija$$$ on October 15, 2012, 07:41:53 pm
Unfortunatley I don't have access to the DW until I get a DSi (or I could use my brothers 3DS, but he over-reacts when I use it >_>). I'd prefer the water pokemon to be special based so surf will be a viable option, so no Gyrados, Floatzel... Frillish is the pre-evo of Jellicent, right?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 15, 2012, 07:43:24 pm
Yes, it is. *Nods*


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on October 15, 2012, 11:05:33 pm
Well, I finished the main story. Pokemon league wasn't all that hard. Most annoying thing about victory road is you have to teach one of your pokemon flash


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 16, 2012, 06:31:18 pm
Well, at least it's not an HM anymore. =P

Also, the League was kinda tough, in my opinion; but mostly the new champion. She nearly actually defeated me; which is more than Alder can say. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on October 16, 2012, 08:13:32 pm
>_>

Keldeo can't learn Waterfall...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 16, 2012, 11:29:19 pm
Slowbro has been wondering the same thing for a while. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on October 17, 2012, 11:49:23 am
The Champion just wiped the floor with me.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 17, 2012, 11:59:01 am
Yeah, I know, the new champion's strong, eh? Varied team too. Better than Alder. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on October 18, 2012, 12:41:35 pm
The new champion didn't even k.o. one of my guys...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 18, 2012, 03:45:30 pm
Just how high were your team's levels? 0_o


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on October 19, 2012, 01:08:43 am
62,62,61,60,60,50

Too many dragons got wrecked by ice beam. Others by surf/waterfall. Only problem was lapras but that's just cause of the high hp. It was like a 2-3 hit k/o with thunderbolt


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 19, 2012, 08:12:18 am
Ah, well Ice Beam explains everything. You probably wouldn't have thought much of Lance either. =P

In fact, my Garchomp just got one-hit by an Ice Beam, because I forgot my Yache Berry. >>'

You might be pleased to know that the E4 got a huge level boost now that you're in the postgame. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on October 19, 2012, 12:13:19 pm
Not really. If you go to the areas that you couldn't before, you are about the same levels. Im about to go fight em again


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 19, 2012, 12:43:32 pm
*Snickers* Okay then, don't complain if you can't beat them, though. They get boosted to, I believe, the late 70s. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on October 19, 2012, 01:56:25 pm
Only the champion is late 70s. The others have 5 72s and 1 74


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 19, 2012, 02:23:23 pm
It's close enough, when you consider they're 20 levels stronger regardless. =P

If you really want to fight a powered up E4... Go turn on Challenge Mode. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on October 19, 2012, 10:14:37 pm
Maybe with all level 100s. Not now. What I gotta do now is catch 648 pokemon and transfer all the pokemon from white


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 20, 2012, 09:44:52 am
Fair enough. =P

Have you tried the Pokemon World Tourney yet, or the Black Tower?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on October 20, 2012, 11:02:45 pm
Without breeding and ev training? Never


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 21, 2012, 10:31:48 am
Black Tower isn't a Battle Facility(Well, technically it is, but you gain EXP), so I don't think it requires uber hax to win, unlike the PWT. Which I agree with you there; I grabbed my competitive team from Black to go try to beat the Leaders. xD


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on October 21, 2012, 12:51:09 pm
Well right now I just want to make sure I can beat the elite four with some ease. I have my guys all about level 76. Then I'm gonna capture 650 pokemon and trade all my old pokemon over so i can get shinies easier


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on October 21, 2012, 06:41:42 pm
I despise enemies that spam Double Team.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 21, 2012, 06:57:28 pm
Plotkin: Yeah, that's certainly something I want. However, I'm already maybe a quarter of the way there, since I captured everything I saw. =P Which, considering how many Pokemon are in the wild now... That's a lot.

Truth: Yep, same here.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on October 21, 2012, 07:31:22 pm
You know, I think the best part of BW2 is this: "Repel ran out. Use another?"
Though Pokestar studios is a close second.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on October 21, 2012, 11:05:05 pm
Yeah that repel thing is so incredibly useful. Saves so much time. And beat the elite four the second time. Now for trading and elite four challenge mode....


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 21, 2012, 11:06:12 pm
And Unova's Challenge. Though that's best kept for later...

And yeah, it's especially handy during the Funfest missions.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on October 22, 2012, 11:07:24 am
I haven't tried any of the funfest stuff, or join avenue, or the pokestar stuff. I hope they aren't boring


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 22, 2012, 11:35:13 am
Depends on your sense of 'boring'. Join Avenue's awesome for getting stuff, and training, and such; since it helps with a lot. Wish that there wasn't an 8 shop limit, though, even if that's all that's technically needed.

Pokestar, however, is amazing.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on October 22, 2012, 02:50:06 pm
Join avenue is interacting with other people, right? It's not just single player?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 22, 2012, 05:44:59 pm
Yes, you can get more people than you could in a single day with just single player, by interacting with others. hence why everyone likes the Magnemite Coil technique.

That said, it is possible to get it ranked up with just Single Player. It'd just take a LOT longer. xD


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on October 22, 2012, 07:41:56 pm
Another point for BW2: The key system. Now if the people at anime club have only gotten far enough to have the Challenge key....


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on October 22, 2012, 11:33:10 pm
Do you need the challenge key? Or can't you send that over wifi?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on October 22, 2012, 11:34:08 pm
You need infrared or wireless, not wifi. I wish it worked with wifi.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on October 23, 2012, 12:05:59 am
Can't help you then. Oh well. Good thing I bought both black 2 and white 2. I can give myself both keys


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on October 23, 2012, 07:44:12 pm
Hmm...as I am not into the PWT, I have almost run out of postgame stuff to do...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 23, 2012, 07:46:58 pm
That's the only odd thing about the key system; you can't use it with people in the Pal Pad, to get these things if you don't know anyone with White 2 or so.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on October 23, 2012, 09:38:25 pm
Yeah it's kinda annoying how gamefreak hates the lonelly children with no friends


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on October 23, 2012, 09:53:08 pm
Yeah. Until two months ago, I didn't even KNOW anyone that played Pokemon. (IRL - I've known Blade longer than two months. :P)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on October 23, 2012, 10:12:15 pm
I only know like, 2 people


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 23, 2012, 11:23:22 pm
I only know my cousin, or cousins since I don't know if my other cousin plays Black and White/2 or not. Sounds like he does, but that wouldn't help me any, anyway, since I don't see him often at all. xD


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on October 24, 2012, 09:17:58 am
Which is why I have the 2 ds systems. Prevents me from not being able to do alot of stuff


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 24, 2012, 09:35:51 am
Haha, yeah, I have two systems as well; but I don't exactly have the funds to get both versions. Right now. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on October 24, 2012, 11:01:17 am
Well I have 2 systems but my dsi is broken. If it gets moved around, the game freezes. If I close it and reopen it, it turns off. It makes it unplayable for a majority of it so I only use it for trading


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 24, 2012, 11:09:32 am
Ah, I see. I really do find it humourous that my nearly 6 year old DS still works fairly well, except for slight touch screen issues and brightness issues(Which are likely just from me being used to my 3DS. =P) Other than that, it's perfect. Yet, others' systems, which are 4 years old at the most are nearly broken. But, then again, I've known of systems that were probably only from that year, and were nearly unplayable, due to screen issues.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on October 24, 2012, 11:25:09 am
It still works for trading so that's all that matters to me. I still wish I could get it fixed though


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Wantija$$$ on December 29, 2012, 01:06:26 am
Not sure if anyone still plays this game or goes on the DW, but I found this (http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?540560-Pokemon-Dream-World-ID-Exchange-Thread) so we could add each other easily and 'boost' if you wish.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on December 29, 2012, 08:51:32 am
I do both at times, but I can't seem to log into the Global Link right now.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on January 02, 2013, 04:52:06 pm
Forgot we even had this topic. >_<

Anyone willing to trade with me? I need an Oshawott, a Vespiqueen, and a Wismur in White 2. I need others too, but those are the only ones I can remember the names of. :P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on January 02, 2013, 05:16:41 pm
I would, but I'd have to do that like next week or so. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on January 02, 2013, 11:34:21 pm
....isn't it odd that the Hall of Origin was NEVER released, even in Japan?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on January 03, 2013, 07:40:46 am
Kinda is, yes; but it wouldn't really be a first, I think. Was that Old Sea Map ever officially released in Emerald?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Plotkin on January 08, 2013, 08:28:50 pm
6th gen before Meleotta is released??


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on January 09, 2013, 08:07:39 am
Meloetta's been released already; just only in Japan. But, um. There's still 10 months. =P They could pull a Celebi and release it at like the last second before Pokemon X/Y release.

Yeah, let's just hope they don't pull a Crystal, and leave it only for Japan, like Celebi. >_<


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on January 24, 2013, 11:29:51 am
Yeah... About that... You can't transfer items from Gen 4 to Gen 5, thanks to infinite TMs, and the TM move list changing in Gen 5. Otherwise I have infinite Master Balls on Emerald, thanks to the cloning glitch. =P I fully intend on getting as many Master Balls as I can on Black 2, however, since the Lottery returns. =P

Hmm, I don't know why your speed is not good, then... Maybe it'll change upon evolution...

Blaziken:

Peck
Sky Uppercut
Slash
Blaze Kick

Sceptile:

Leaf Blade
Slam
Pursuit
False Swipe(For catching Pokemon)

Swampert:

EQuake
Muddy Water
Take Down
Protect

Those are only using level up moves, too. =)

Quoting this for own reference. ;)  I'll dig up my F4 list, too, later.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 14, 2013, 08:41:15 am
Bumping for X/Y relevance.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on October 14, 2013, 12:55:14 pm
I love that I got a Delphox right after my Humanities class started talking about the Oracle of Delphi.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 14, 2013, 02:29:19 pm
That is awesome. xD

Meanwhile, I still only have Braixen, though I'm slowly leveling my party. Emphasis on slowly. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: MsRowdyRedhead on October 14, 2013, 06:53:39 pm
OK.. this is way kewl for little bits..
 

Pokemon in onesies of their evolutions...

http://www.tickld.com/t/357881

(http://7770647a14b0867efc75-b939f832d8cd9c860ce8909163419528.r92.cf2.rackcdn.com/357881.jpg)

(http://7770647a14b0867efc75-b939f832d8cd9c860ce8909163419528.r92.cf2.rackcdn.com/357881.jpg)

(http://7770647a14b0867efc75-b939f832d8cd9c860ce8909163419528.r92.cf2.rackcdn.com/357881.jpg)

(http://7770647a14b0867efc75-b939f832d8cd9c860ce8909163419528.r92.cf2.rackcdn.com/357881.jpg)

(http://7770647a14b0867efc75-b939f832d8cd9c860ce8909163419528.r92.cf2.rackcdn.com/357881.jpg)



Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 14, 2013, 07:58:46 pm
Heh, that's always cool, yeah. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: korchi12 on October 23, 2013, 11:28:25 am
Well this is my first post in quite awhile =P
How are people liking X and Y so far? Im impressed with the 3D pokemon. They did a good job in my opinion switching from 2D to 3D .

P.S. If anyone wants to exchange FC's for the friend safari or to battle mine is 3496-9829-2920.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 23, 2013, 02:18:27 pm
Liking Y very much; spending a lot of time on it, though granted most of that is breeding or other optional stuff, but still. =P They did a great job with it. ^^

Sure; mine is 4425-1588-8276. Adding yours now. =)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: korchi12 on October 23, 2013, 08:04:28 pm
I got X and am loving the new features. Makes training much easier( even though it's still tedious). Im also loving the nature pass down percentage is now 100% with everstone. It's sooooo nice.

Added, oh and my in-game name is Matt.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 23, 2013, 10:58:45 pm
Oooh; it's 100% now? =D I haven't had a good ditto or so to actually test with, despite breeding millions of eggs already. =P Now I wanna get to the post-game even more; so I can start work on a better team that utilizes more Kalos pokemon, while waiting for Bank for the other few I have. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on October 24, 2013, 12:31:15 am
Teeeempted to get back into Emerald again, I figure by the time I'm done I'll either have a job and a 3DS, or else I'll have no job and no 3DS but find a way to play White/White2 on emulator.

Have to say, I'm relieved the "4th-stage evolutions" turned out to just be temporary forms...they look awful, so hopefully the way it's implemented story-wise means they can get major redesigns by next generation.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 24, 2013, 09:37:39 am
Some look bad; but I do not ever want Mega Absol to be changed. Period. Ever. But there are a few that look good, and there are some that were only found in-game, and not 'officially' released in the press for purposes of wanting people to find them. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Mahri828 on October 24, 2013, 12:10:34 pm
 I literally just downloaded an emulator! I finished off Emerald, (for the most part, I didn't get the Regis, but I wanted to try the next gen = P) and now I'm starting Platinum. Beginning Pokemon is Piplup! Any suggestions for my team?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 24, 2013, 12:16:31 pm
Get Shinx, skip bidoof, get Starly, get Budew, get another pokemon of your choice, and I'd suggest at least keeping an open spot for Riolu, but you don't get it until like the end of the game... =/


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Mahri828 on October 24, 2013, 12:25:33 pm
Well I got shinx. And I looked at some of the pokemon and I'd like to get Garchomp and riolu for sure, so I might skip Starly if Garchomp can fly. When can you get evee?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 24, 2013, 01:32:26 pm
Post-game in Diamond and Pearl, Hearthome in Platinum IIRC. Post-game's for sure for Diamond and Pearl, I just can't remember if it was the first visit to Hearthome for Platinum or not. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: korchi12 on October 24, 2013, 02:54:47 pm
Oooh; it's 100% now? =D I haven't had a good ditto or so to actually test with, despite breeding millions of eggs already. =P Now I wanna get to the post-game even more; so I can start work on a better team that utilizes more Kalos pokemon, while waiting for Bank for the other few I have. =P

Oh yes, my modest Ditto is working over time to make all those pokemon whose best nature is modest. Now I need a jolly and a adamant one. Ditto's catch rate is so annoying though -_- I cant wait for bank and transfer. I really want all my old pokemon to transfer over haha.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 24, 2013, 02:58:18 pm
Mine's going to be interesting, since I'm also trying to natively catch them all, so some might just stay on Black/2.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Mahri828 on October 24, 2013, 03:44:37 pm
 Okay. Well so long as I can get them before the elite four = P I always feel like my team is too weak at the start. I never want any pokemon that are catchable until the very end. = P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on October 24, 2013, 03:49:40 pm
Before X and Y were released, I made a vow: if these games did not absolutely blow me away with how amazing they were, I'd quit the series for good.

I will not be quitting the series. Heck, I'd have bought the game for the Looker questline alone. :P
My 3DS friendcode is 0516-7411-2850.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Mahri828 on October 24, 2013, 05:17:40 pm
 Is anyone here willing to test if I can trade with my emulator to a DS at some point? = P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 24, 2013, 06:34:55 pm
You can't, to my knowledge.

Also, Eevee is not before the E4. =P Gible and Riolu, yes, but not Eevee. It's not in the D/P Sinnoh dex.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on October 24, 2013, 07:13:29 pm
Wait, Looker gets a storyline in X/Y?!  :o

Also, Mahri, you DO get an Evee (ONE Evee) pre-Final 4 in Platinum.  Be sure to soft-reset to get a female so you can breed it early. ;)

Also, Bidoof's evolution is like the best HM slave ever. ;)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Mahri828 on October 24, 2013, 08:19:51 pm
HM slaves are the best XD Though towards the end you usually only need moves that are viable for battle anyway = P Also, how do you breed a female Eevee but not a male Eevee? Wouldn't you need a Ditto either way?

And Blade, I know you usually can't, I found a new emulator though, and it DOES say I have an internet connection, which I've never had happen in previous emulators, so... Worth a shot = P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 24, 2013, 09:41:41 pm
Nope; egg groups. Just gotta find the right one and breed a female eevee, since otherwise you'd get whatever the female is.

That's odd. 0_o I'd help test, but I don't have the proper internet for the normal DS anymore... That's intriguing, though, first I've heard about that...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: korchi12 on October 24, 2013, 09:45:48 pm
Before X and Y were released, I made a vow: if these games did not absolutely blow me away with how amazing they were, I'd quit the series for good.

I will not be quitting the series. Heck, I'd have bought the game for the Looker questline alone. :P
My 3DS friendcode is 0516-7411-2850.

I had mixed feeling when the game was being announced but over time I warmed up to the idea of the new pokemon.
The Looker quest line was very nice. Unexpected but nice. I really enjoyed it.

Added! =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on October 24, 2013, 10:32:32 pm
And I added you. As a note, my Pokemon X character is a female named Shell, since I thought she looked like the character from the comic I'm starting.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 25, 2013, 08:31:25 am
called that from the moment you first appeared on the PSS, Truth. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Mahri828 on October 25, 2013, 01:15:33 pm
 Okay, so my emulator tells me I have connection right up until I try to do anything O_o it then says the connection has disappeared. That's kind of a bummer.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Wantija$$$ on October 26, 2013, 02:06:44 pm
JUst beat the E4 in X; solid game overall even if I did prefer BW2's champion battle. I love how the made EV training much more accessible with ST (even if vanilla ev training was easy enough)

FC is 2251-4082-1494 in case you wanted to add me for battles, trades or friend safari


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 26, 2013, 06:32:00 pm
Just for the record, sorry about the multi battle thingy yesterday; was in the middle of breeding and had to go grab my team and then yeah. >>'


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on October 26, 2013, 07:15:17 pm
Dagnabbit, I think I screwed up my recorded EVs on my Cacnea...oh well, I guess I can just 255 it and not care about the 4 EVs to Attack.  There's no way to view EVs on Pokemon prior to X/Y, right?  And since this is Gen III, there's no PokeEdit for that (or items) either. :/

Ah, well.  Just have to deal with it, I suppose.  If I go over on my Special Attack EVs, it won't affect my ability to 255 my HP EV, right?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Wantija$$$ on October 26, 2013, 08:44:37 pm
^ You can actually use a berry that lowers its base attack in return for happiness, (kelpsy berry I think)?

If you do that the EVs will go down to 100, and then every 10 (100, 90, 80, 70 ect) so that's a solution if you're up for some more grinding.

@Blade it's fine, besides we're having a battle on a later day so nothing to worry about!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on October 26, 2013, 09:12:17 pm
Considering it's in-game only (on emulator) and that I don't have the requisite berries (and that berry-growing in general is a bit of a pain anyway), it's fine.  If I could cheat in the berry I needed, I'd just read the actual value so I don't overtrain in the first place. ;)



Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on October 26, 2013, 09:55:02 pm
Ooooh; alright then. Just wanted to mention it. xP wasn't that I didn't want to battle, was more I couldn't get my team in time. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on October 27, 2013, 03:58:06 am
For own reference:

OK, took the Root fossil 'cause I like Cradily better, even though I'll never actually use it. :P

Is it possible to breed any good Fighting moves onto Aron?  Because I have a female with a Gentle nature, so I can stick it in the Daycare and breed off of it.

While I'm at it, is there anything particularly good I can breed onto a Mudkip?  I DO have a female, after all, so (again), Daycare.

EDIT: OK, nothing that will be particularly helpful here, though it is interesting to see that Aron can have both Body Slam and Smelling Salts bred onto it, allowing for a cycle of paralyze-mega damage-repeat.  Might be useful for Final Four.

I put a list of a potential Final Four team on the last page, care to take a look at it again?  (copied here for convenience)
Thinking ahead to Final 4, Blaziken can take the Ice-types and the Dark-types with minimal fuss, and I'm thinking of switching Grovyle for Cacturne, which should deal with the Ghost-types.  I want an Ice-type of my own to deal with the dragons, which would you suggest?  (Keep in mind what I can and can't get pre-Elite Four.)  Finally, I can either use Cacturne on the Water-types and just deal with the damage, or, preferably, I need a Pokemon with an Ability that renders it completely immune.  Is there anything like than in Emerald?

EDIT 2: OK, looks like Lombre with Mega Drain and Leech Seed is my best bet, I'll just have to remember to switch to Cacturne (Pin Missile/Needle Arm/Faint Attack/Spikes) for Tentacruel and the enemy Ludicolo (weak to Pin Missile).  My Ice type will be Glalie.  That leaves me with two Pokemon slots open, who do I use as backup?

So right now I have planned:

Blaziken Lvl. ~60 @ ???
??? Nature
-???
-???
-???
-???

Cacturne Lvl. ~60 @ ???
??? Nature
-Pin Missile
-Needle Arm
-Faint Attack
-Spikes

Lombre Lvl. ~60 @ ???
??? Nature
-Mega Drain
-Leech Seed
-???
-???

Glalie Lvl. ~60 @ ???
??? Nature
-???
-???
-???
-???

??? Lvl. ~60
??? Lvl. ~60
There's no-one that gets Water Absorb in Emerald before the Elite 4. Your best bet is to just train up something to take the damage, or, more preferably, take an electric type to the league and obliterate everything. =P

Blaziken Lvl. ~60 @ Charcoal
Any(Preferably Adamant or so, but it doesn't matter) Nature
-Sky Uppercut
-Blaze Kick(Might not activate on physical; stupid move categories based on type mechanic...)
-Earthquake if you can handle not using it on anything else(TM)
-Filler

Aggron Lvl. ~60 @ Leftovers?
Adamant Nature
-Iron Tail
-Dragon Claw(TM)
-Take Down(Replace with Double Edge if Aggron levels to 63 during fights)
-Brick Break(TM)

Lombre(Evolve after you get Hydro Pump, use a Water Stone) Lvl. ~60 @ Water Charm thingy. Charcoal's counterpart.
Modest Nature
-Mega Drain
-Leech Seed
-Hydro Pump
-Ice Beam(TM)

Glalie Lvl. ~60 @ Nevermeltice
Modest Nature
-Ice Beam
-Blizzard
-Water Pulse
-Protect

Flygon Lvl. ~60 @ Anything
Adamant Nature
-Dragonbreath
-Crunch
-Iron Tail(TM)
-Secret Power

Gardevoir Lvl. ~60 @ Magnet
Any Special Attack raising Nature
-Psychic
-Shadow Ball
-Flamethrower
-Thunderbolt

That helpful? =)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Mahri828 on November 05, 2013, 01:35:50 pm
 Any suggestions for my Torterra moveset?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on November 06, 2013, 12:47:51 am
Earthquake is a given (you'll get it as soon as you evolve it), as is Giga Drain.  I can't remember what I used for the others...I'd have to go dig up my Platinum file and look.

EDIT: Woooooow. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmQF5o7C24E


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Wantija$$$ on November 07, 2013, 03:43:11 pm
With my experience Wood Hammer is an absolute killer move, may as well put leech seed on it to gradually restore HP if you can wall certain pokemon to gain HP back from Wood Hammer's recoil. Crunch is a good move for type coverage as well.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on November 08, 2013, 12:57:58 am
Oh, good, someone else posted so I don't have to double-post. :P

So, I finally EV-trained my Cacturne.  Verdict: SCREW EV-TRAINING. >_<    That was the most obnoxious process ever.  I might do it if I ever get caught up and start playing in a current generation, just because you sort of have to, but still, sheesh. :/

Also, because I'm thinking about it ATM: is Meowth available in-game in B/W/2 or X/Y?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on November 08, 2013, 01:35:22 am
...I wish Poke Transporter would come out already...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 08, 2013, 08:32:52 am
Flipz: EV training is MUCH easier in X/Y. xP

Meowth isn't available in-game in X/Y, but I think it was in B/W 2?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on November 08, 2013, 04:11:52 pm
Continuing off of my Final 4 Pokemon set (the one I quoted--I might go with Blade's suggestion for the Frontier, if I'm crazy enough to try it), I'm thinking of grabbing a Skarmory or Starmie for one of my last two 'mons.  (Keeping in mind, as far as type resistances I'll want to be able to fight Dark, Ghost, Ice, Dragon, and Water-type specialists.)  I'm still not sure what I want for my Electric-type, since nothing I've grabbed so far is really standing out to me (maybe Magneton?  But even still.)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 09, 2013, 09:13:07 am
Oh, sorry, didn't realize you wanted stuff. ^^'

Hmm... Not entirely certain on Electric types... Which ones do you have, anyway?

Starmie works; Blaziken can fight off Dark Types and take out some of the Ice Type one; Gardevoir can take out the Ghosts, Glalie can take out the Dragon e4 member; and technically Lombre can take on much of the Water... But watch out for Milotic. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on November 09, 2013, 04:07:43 pm
I have Ilumise and Volbeat, Plusle and Minun, Magnemite, Voltorb, and Electrike/Manectric.  I'm leaning towards Magnemite due to the Steel typing and defense which should let me survive a hit or two (though I'll probably lean towards a Speed-boosting nature just to make sure I can outspeed the League if I can).

Also, I just caught a female Absol and a female Seedot, so those Pokemon (and Seedot's evolutionary line) are open for options now (though I think I'm set for Grass-Dark types, given Cacturne).  Absol took more than 30 turns, a ton of pokeballs and Great Balls and Ultra Balls, a ton of Super Potions, and ultimately two Timer Balls to catch, but it was worth it now that I can breed Absol freely. :)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 09, 2013, 05:35:20 pm
Those first two are pure bugs. =P

Magnemite works as an Electric type, though, that's for sure.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on November 09, 2013, 07:03:25 pm
I also have Pikachu now.  (Cute Charm + Safari Zone = Only have to go in there once more before I have everything pre-Final 4 ;D )


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 09, 2013, 07:49:26 pm
Pikachu would work well; I take it it doesn't have the light ball, though? =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on November 09, 2013, 10:30:59 pm
I'd have to check the PC--I doubt it, though.  It'd be awesome if it did, but alas...

I did manage to grab a female of Phanphy, Wobbuffet, and Heracross, though, so no more need to go into the Safari Zone *except* for the Light Ball. :)

Also, trainers are jerks.  Twice in a row I tried to get a double battle going, and twice they decided to look a different way and challenge me one-on-one. :(


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 10, 2013, 10:55:03 am
Heh, true. I only asked because I jsut so happened to get a light Ball Pikachu on my first encounter in X/Y. xP

Oooh, very nice. =D Phanphy is before the elite four, though? Been so long since I've played through Emerald. >>'

Use running for that, unless it's indoors; they automatically look toward you in everything before X/Y(That seems to be different in that? Not quite sure, honestly. xP). Very helpful for trying to get the non-standard double battles in Emerald. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on November 10, 2013, 02:45:57 pm
Doesn't work if one of them is on a movement path, though.  There was a pair of trainers--one was stationary, the other was running back and forth across the path (i.e. bouncing between the Trainer and the wall).  I tried to time my run so they'd both see me, but no--the bottom one sees me, and then the moving one sees me immediately after the first battle. :(  Obviously meant to be a double battle, but then it didn't work.

Also, yeah, Phanphy is pre-Final 4, as is Heracross (got females of both, along with the female Wobbuffet that took me 25 Safari Balls and a Pokeblock to catch).

Speaking of Pokeblocks, the Pokeblock-making minigame is FUN.  Why did they have to make the equivalent mechanics in later games REQUIRE wi-fi? :(


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 10, 2013, 02:50:05 pm
What are you talking about? ._. Diamond/Pearl/Platinum's Poffin minigame was single player capable; I should know, considering I had no friends to do minigames like contests and such with... And Gens 5 and 6 have no equivalent minigames, so...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on November 10, 2013, 03:05:47 pm
When I tried to do it on emulator, it tried to connect to wi-fi and crashed. ???

Also, I need a replacement for Starmie--I can't get it without the Super Rod, and AFAIK I can't get that pre-Final 4. :/


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 10, 2013, 03:47:37 pm
How did you try it? Because that doesn't sound right at all, there was msot definitely a solo option. 0_o

Super Rod is in Mossdeep City. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on November 11, 2013, 01:27:18 pm
I don't actually remember now--it's been QUITE a while since I've booted up Platinum. ;)

It is?  Wow.  That's...really strange.  Never heard of a Super Rod being available pre-Final 4 before.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 11, 2013, 01:29:00 pm
Fair enoguh. =P I'd test it, but I don't have D/P/Pt with me. xP

It's available before the E4 in X/Y too, but that's all I'll say about that. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Wantija$$$ on November 15, 2013, 11:31:58 pm
Yeah Super Rod is only available post E4 in dppt (once you get national dex).

And my friend just bred a adamant shiny Growlithe with all flawless IVs (excluding SpA) he is very lucky...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on November 20, 2013, 09:59:14 pm
Just discovered Pokemon Showdown.  Trying to build a team, using Greninja, Smeargle, Aegislash, and looking for three other 'mons to use.  Ideas?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on November 20, 2013, 10:02:41 pm
MissingNo.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on November 20, 2013, 11:09:51 pm
I'm thinking of picking Kangaskhan for my Mega Evolution Pokemon.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on November 20, 2013, 11:10:32 pm
Can't really help there.
But did you  hear about the new Mega Evolution that got leaked?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on November 20, 2013, 11:38:33 pm
Yeah--never understood why folks seem to like those particular legendaries--next to Deoxys, they're my least favorites in Gen III. :/

Hmm...trying to decide between Mega Kangaskhan (Parental Bond for double-hitting) and Mega Aggron (which is next to impossible to hit).  Or maybe Mega Lucario, but I've already got a glaring problem with Ground to start with, thanks to Aegislash, not to mention Steel-types are a LOT less hardy with the Gen VI nerf.

Obviously when I get a 3DS, I'll main Mega Blaziken because it kills everything, but I'd like to be able to fight in OU instead of Ubers, because Xerneas. :P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on November 20, 2013, 11:40:37 pm
I'm just exited for Volcanion.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: korchi12 on November 21, 2013, 01:00:25 am
Whew, IV breeding is sooo tedious... -.-


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on November 21, 2013, 01:05:10 am
*stares at Korchi's avatar*
Um...right. Pokemon.
IV Breeding, to me, feels too much like work than fun. :P If I actually manage to get an egg, I'm happy. ^^;


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on November 21, 2013, 01:24:16 am
My team is horribly weak against water-types and fighting-types, but is otherwise doing OK.  Should probably NOT be running Greninja and Azumarill on the same team, tho. :P

HOLY COW, I just won a fight by a single hit point.  :o  I'm...definitely keeping a Focus Sash on Aegislash, then. :P

For those interested, here's my team:
Bronet (Smeargle) @ Focus Sash
Ability: Own Tempo
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
Timid Nature
- Spore
- Sticky Web
- Stealth Rock
- Spikes

Aegislash @ Focus Sash
Ability: Stance Change
- King's Shield
- Sacred Sword
- Shadow Sneak
- Swords Dance

Greninja (F) @ Life Orb
Ability: Protean
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature
- Dark Pulse
- Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam
- Hidden Power [Fire]

Kangaskhan (F) @ Kangaskhanite
Ability: Early Bird
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 Atk / 4 SDef
Jolly Nature
- Sucker Punch
- Earthquake
- Return
- Power-Up Punch

Azumarill @ Choice Band
Ability: Huge Power
EVs: 212 HP / 40 Spd / 252 Atk
Adamant Nature
- Play Rough
- Aqua Jet
- Superpower
- Return

Chesnaught (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Bulletproof
- Spiky Shield
- Spikes
- Roar
- Wood Hammer



Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 21, 2013, 03:15:09 pm
Not bad; what are the EVs for Chesnaught and Aegislash, if any are there? They're more defensive Pokemon, so it might be an idea to put like special/defence EVs into it. =)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on November 21, 2013, 03:35:22 pm
:facepalm: THAT'S why they're getting KO'd so easily.  :facepalm:

Here's the revised version:
Quote
Bronet (Smeargle) @ Focus Sash
Ability: Own Tempo
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spd
Timid Nature
- Spore
- Sticky Web
- Stealth Rock
- Spikes

Aegislash @ Focus Sash
Ability: Stance Change
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 SDef
Impish Nature
- King's Shield
- Sacred Sword
- Shadow Sneak
- Swords Dance

Greninja (F) @ Life Orb
Ability: Protean
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature
IVs: 30 Atk / 30 SAtk / 30 Spd
- Dark Pulse
- Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam
- U-turn

Kangaskhan (F) @ Kangaskhanite
Ability: Early Bird
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 Atk / 4 SDef
Jolly Nature
- Sucker Punch
- Earthquake
- Return
- Power-Up Punch

Azumarill @ Choice Band
Ability: Huge Power
EVs: 212 HP / 40 Spd / 252 Atk
Adamant Nature
- Play Rough
- Aqua Jet
- Superpower
- Return

Chesnaught (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Bulletproof
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 HP / 4 SDef
Adamant Nature
- Spiky Shield
- Hammer Arm
- Earthquake
- Wood Hammer

And as for my second team (one that's more of a waller):
Quote
Trevenant (F) @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Harvest
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SDef
Careful Nature
- Leech Seed
- Substitute
- Rock Slide
- Shadow Claw

Talonflame (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Gale Wings
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature
- U-turn
- Brave Bird
- Roost
- Flare Blitz

Aggron (F) @ Aggronite
Ability: Sturdy
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SDef
Impish Nature
- Heavy Slam
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Dragon Tail

Rotom-Wash @ Chesto Berry
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 4 Def / 248 SDef
- Volt Switch
- Hydro Pump
- Will-O-Wisp
- Rest

Bronet (Smeargle) (M) @ Focus Sash
Ability: Own Tempo
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spd
Timid Nature
- Spore
- Sticky Web
- Stealth Rock
- Spikes

Aerodactyl @ Assault Vest
Ability: Rock Head
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 Atk / 4 HP
Jolly Nature
- Fire Fang
- Ice Fang
- Dragon Claw
- Earthquake


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 21, 2013, 03:38:30 pm
Heh. =P

That doesn't seem too bad, though, those look like pretty good teams to me. =D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: korchi12 on November 22, 2013, 12:26:45 pm
@Truth- Yeah its all work =_=

@Flipz- in my experience I suggest running a brave aegislash with that moveset. It is unstoppable =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on November 23, 2013, 11:24:34 pm
@Korchi: Cool, I'll try that. :)

Also, to those complaining about IV-breeding...check this (warning, some language):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTuSvjYOlfE


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: korchi12 on November 24, 2013, 08:11:33 pm
@Korchi: Cool, I'll try that. :)

Also, to those complaining about IV-breeding...check this (warning, some language):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTuSvjYOlfE

Oh yeah I've seen that. Pretty helpful. I've been using an online guide mostly but it's been a slow going process.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Wantija$$$ on November 24, 2013, 09:25:33 pm
So far I've gotten 7 5iv pokemon, it's time consuming but overall it isn't that bad when you're watching a movie or listening to music.

Plus there's a less time consuming (depends) method that involves using Magikarps. (http://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/1qc6dw/perfect_pokemon_breeding_exploit_time_machine/)

Plus anyone want flawless Timid compound Eyes Joltiks? I can probably give them out tomorrow.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on November 28, 2013, 03:24:48 am
Oh, the irony. :P  (This was written way back when X and Y were ANNOUNCED, and the evolutions were a total mystery.)
(http://cdn.brawlinthefamily.keenspot.com/comics/2013-02-01-460-Starters.jpg)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 28, 2013, 07:29:02 am
Braixen was different, but admittedly, clean up the final evolution, and you kinda get Delphox. =P(And I like Delphox's design, but even I have to admit that Greninja is just awesome. =P)


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on November 28, 2013, 07:15:43 pm
Still, he totally called how over-superior Greninja would be compared to the (competitively) nigh-useless Delphox months before we knew about it--most impressive.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on November 28, 2013, 07:21:35 pm
Well, yeah. =P I'll agree there. xP


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on December 28, 2013, 02:29:02 am
So, guess what I just bought... ;D

PM me your friend codes?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on December 28, 2013, 11:21:45 am
Ooooooooh. =D Will do so now. ^^


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on December 29, 2013, 03:58:58 am
All right, what Kanto starter do I pick?  I have Quilladin (female, so if anyone needs one I'll be able to breed), the event Torchic evolved into Combusken, an Azurill, and a Fletchling in my party at the moment, along with all three elemental monkeys in my PC.  I should note I'm mainly looking to get the starter that will be hardest to get later via trading, particularly among friends.  I'm guessing that'll be Bulbasaur, (since I mostly see Charizards and Blastoises in peoples' videos), right?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on December 29, 2013, 10:14:09 am
Whichever you want, since I have all three of those too. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on January 10, 2014, 02:31:57 am
I wonder why they're still holding off Pokemon Bank...the Nintendo Network seems to be working again.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on January 10, 2014, 11:13:30 am
Because as soon as they release it, the network will go right back down.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: korchi12 on January 12, 2014, 12:39:04 pm
I was hoping it would be released last week but still nothing  :/


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on January 12, 2014, 01:21:50 pm
I was hoping it;d be released back at the end of December, but... =P

Gives me more time to work on the Unova dex in Black 2, though, since I want that Shiny Haxorus. >>'


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on January 13, 2014, 12:12:14 am
So, I have 6/8 badges so far and am starting to think about competitive teams. I had this crazy idea for an all-Water team (some combination of Azumarill, Greninja, Starmie, Rotom-W, Mega Blastoise, Ludicolo, Tentacruel, Golduck, and/or Vaporeon), where my coverages come from secondary typing. (I'd love to have Swampert on there, but even if someone gave me one it wouldn't be tourney-legal and I'd like it to be whether or not I bother). Am I crazy, or could this work?

Water's weaknesses are Grass and Electric; Rotom, Ludicolo, and Swampert (or Quagsire, if I'm only using tourney-legit 'mons) would resist Electric, while Ludicolo, Tentacruel, Starmie, and Gyarados could resist Grass.  I'd probably take Azumarill because Fairy OP, and Tenta to deal with opposing Azumarill; the rest are still up in the air.  Thoughts?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on January 24, 2014, 02:09:08 am
(Flipz used a Revive?)

So, I'm leveling up my Jolly Talonflame (Flame Body, unfortunately) for my in-game team, after my secondary (traded) Fly-user managed to powerlevel unexpectedly but I was still getting outsped by low-level 'mons because it has a poor Nature.  However, I'm really unhappy with its moveset:

Razor Wind (I had this for hordes, but I'm not 100% sure it's worth it--if only it got Air Cutter :( )
Flame Charge
Quick Attack (which never gets used because base power 40 without STAB is awful...)
Acrobatics

Suggestions? (Level 60 at the moment.)  Should I just swap in Fly for Acrobatics since it's an in-game set anyway?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on January 24, 2014, 02:19:55 pm
Since Acrobatics is a TM, you definitely can do that, yeah. /nods.

I think there was another multi-hit attack that Talonflame can learn, but I forget what...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Wantija$$$ on January 24, 2014, 07:01:26 pm
Do you mean Heat Wave about the multi hit move for horde battles? I mean it's special but it's the best you've got for Talonflame :P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on January 25, 2014, 02:35:19 am
Wow...Talonflame is kinda limited for in-game use, then, at least compared to how it's oversaturated the competitive scene. :P  Shoulda gone with Farfetch'd, I guess, he gets Air Cutter and can use Thief, and as long as he's holding the Stick he has guaranteed crits on all moves with an increased Critical Hit ratio thanks to some changes in the way crit chance is calculated. :P

I'm getting tired of training Gardevior, tho--will Level 56 be enough for me to get through Xerneas and Team Flare if the rest of my team is hovering between 65 and 70?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on January 25, 2014, 11:16:35 am
Yes, it'll be enough. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Wantija$$$ on January 25, 2014, 12:27:18 pm
Well you're pretty over levelled, that's all I can say :P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on January 27, 2014, 01:29:03 am
Surprisingly, catching Xerneas was actually a challenge.  Not as much as, say, the legendary birds and dog in FR (gods I hated that playthrough SO much), nor as much as trying to get a female Eevee into a Luxury Ball, but quite a bit more than the average 'mons I've been grabbing.  (Especially since I didn't think and brought an all-battle team with no False Swipe 'mons).  If I'd brought Doublade instead of Pikachu like I'd originally planned, I would have had a MUCH rougher time--and that would have been tragic, considering my Xerneas is Modest with IVs of 31/18-19/28-29/31/26-27/31.  On my FIRST TRY.

I swear I must have gotten the luckiest X cartridge in the world. :P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on January 31, 2014, 01:10:57 am
Next week's Global Link maintenance is supposed to be making it so that we can only sync once every three hours instead of once every hour...maybe they're trying to lighten the load before releasing Pokemon Bank?


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on January 31, 2014, 10:40:35 am
That's nice; and definitely a cool thing, yeah. What I'mstruggling to figure out, is what that has to do with Pokemon. =P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on January 31, 2014, 11:41:47 am
It was a mispost, supposed to go in the main General Discussion. I've edited the post now.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on January 31, 2014, 03:40:25 pm
heh.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Flipz on January 31, 2014, 09:31:54 pm
Beat the E4. :)  I'm leaving my 3DS online for a bit, could someone check my Friend Safari please?

Also, I'd like to be able to post this news in the BZP topic, so could someone say something there as well? :P


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on February 04, 2014, 08:05:15 am
Pokemon Bank is out in Europe...come on Nintendo, America wants it too.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on February 04, 2014, 12:18:01 pm
Meanwhile, Reggie laughs at the sadness of everyone who wants certain games or things released here. /raises eyebrow at Level 5 and Nintendo for Inazuma Eleven news, since it was briefly on the NoA release calendar.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Truth on February 05, 2014, 11:55:58 am
And it is OUT!


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Wantija$$$ on February 05, 2014, 01:07:12 pm
Ah the amazing feeling of bringing over 6iv Dittos and multiple Bank legends for everyone to have over Wonder Trade! :D


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on February 05, 2014, 01:32:19 pm
Heh, that's a pretty cool thing. Maybe when I have a chance I'll get started on it.


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: The Host on February 22, 2014, 01:02:17 pm
Completed the National Dex (other than the select event legendaries that I've missed out on...) after many GTS trades and egg hatchings... time to level everything up and go shiny hunting/hatching...


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on February 22, 2014, 02:37:50 pm
Nice, congrats; I'd work on that if I didn't get Fire Emblem Awakening a couple weeks ago. xP


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Wantija$$$ on March 01, 2014, 04:00:23 pm
anyone happen to have a Nidoran male with sheer force? GTS hasn't done me any good with trades D:


Title: Re: Pokémon General Discussion
Post by: Magical Girl Mimi on March 01, 2014, 04:38:09 pm
It's possible I do since I PokeBank'd a lot of my Dream Ability Pokemon; however, I can't check right now. =/